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Offline Mr.Jowee

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Chad Johnstons contest scoring system
« on: February 13, 2007, 02:51:58 AM »
He mentioned in this interview on Agoride that he's working on a scoring system for contests that will be ready in two years (the article is one year old, so I guess next year we'll see it in place). A buddy of mine explained what he had heard about it, and I was pretty impressed. From what I understand, it's like a video game, where tricks are worth a certain amount of points, and harder tricks are worth more. The more combos you put together, the more you score, as the points build upon themselves. Now everything I've heard is through ehar say. Does anyone have any info on how excatly it works?

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Re: Chad Johnstons contest scoring system
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2007, 03:24:20 AM »
The points system on various tricks is a cool idea. However, keeping tabs on what was done, how it was done to get in and out, the length of the combo and how it can multiply like a Tony Hawk video game seems very difficult to keep track of. As is, you can watch someone ride and miss some of the finer details of what was done simply cause there's just too much going on at the same time. You almost need video footage to pause and rewind in order to fully see what was being done.

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Re: Chad Johnstons contest scoring system
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2007, 05:16:37 AM »
It has always seemed strange to me that people can say one trick is harder than another. Some people find whiplashes hard....others find just getting down the street impossible.

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Re: Chad Johnstons contest scoring system
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2007, 06:33:44 AM »
From what I've heard, I think you are right, but I can see many serious concerns with such a system. Have to wait and see for the final judgment.
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Re: Chad Johnstons contest scoring system
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2007, 07:21:11 PM »
Hmm. I agree, tricks are only hard when you don't know them... Once you have them dialed, they are easy.

But, you could build a system like this, as long as Everyone knew what the trick points were.

It would seem to me that this type of system would cater to those riders who build a single contest routine, and use it at every contest...  which would get old, imo...

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Re: Chad Johnstons contest scoring system
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2007, 08:43:00 PM »
flatland is so hard to judge that this new system should be
a step up from what is done now..big step and it wont be
perfect and will need to be tweaked a bit but it will surely
be alot better judging system that we have now.

I HAVE FAITH IN CHADSTER!!

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Re: Chad Johnstons contest scoring system
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2007, 08:59:47 PM »
I kinda worry that the tweaking it would need would be pretty non-stop....
Are non-rated tricks allowed, and how do you deal with them?
Is the scoring done on a slo-mo video playback?
etc etc
Be interesting to see the details though.

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Re: Chad Johnstons contest scoring system
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2007, 09:48:51 PM »
id say maybe, have a bunch of people spend a day reviewing tapes and tallying scores then anounce it.

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Re: Chad Johnstons contest scoring system
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2007, 09:55:36 PM »
i just can't see this will happen.. to be honest i don't want it to happen. i'm sure Chad will do his best to create a fair system of scoring but i think it will kill the fun of the contest.. i know some freestyle sports where they started a system like this and it's just not good to think back like: 'ohh sh*t i lost 5 points when my foot touched the ground that's why i came 2nd!'
the system they used at the BIDC seemed quite fair i liked that but i don't think we should make contests so difficult. i know it's not fair now and the judges just can't make a decision everyone likes but will it be better to say: 'of course he is better he has 50 points more than the other guy.' ?
i just think this all would make this lovely sport a little bit less "freestyle" :(
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Re: Chad Johnstons contest scoring system
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2007, 01:51:28 AM »
but everyone knows that you score points in tony hawk only by nose wheelies and manuals.

Are we supposed to more hang 5s and pinkie squeaks....?

This format will not work.

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Re: Chad Johnstons contest scoring system
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2007, 01:54:22 AM »
Is there something I'm missing here? Nine people posted their opinions, so they must have a multitude of insider information on the system, right?
 
Can someone fill me in with some facts about how it works?

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Re: Chad Johnstons contest scoring system
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2007, 02:09:03 AM »
from the sound of it.... i don't like it, sorry chad =(

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Re: Chad Johnstons contest scoring system
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2007, 02:33:24 AM »
In the new Ride UK Effraim explained the system as;

"Chad Johnson has been working on a simplified solution to judging, he has created a points system for every possible trick, variation and bike position on a bike"

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Re: Chad Johnstons contest scoring system
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2007, 09:04:30 AM »
i think it wil work and give it a chance people
it is alot better than the current flawed system.

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Re: Chad Johnstons contest scoring system
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2007, 09:33:30 AM »
Umm, points based system related to each trick having a score and linking into/out of tricks having a score etc - that's ridiculous  :huh:

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