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Title: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: katobmx on October 04, 2007, 12:13:13 AM
http://http://www.danscomp.com/518077.php?cat=PARTS
just wanted to know what everybody thought of them
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: rawchild on October 04, 2007, 02:43:29 AM
They look nice....I haven't seen plastic pegs before.... :huh:
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: Daniil Maslyuk on October 04, 2007, 02:50:06 AM
I think these are going to be my next pegs. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: ying on October 04, 2007, 02:54:48 AM
do they make any other size? like 4.5" x 1.75"?
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: timmyg on October 04, 2007, 03:01:01 AM
ok so whats the point.. they weigh the same as sequence and the fly mags, taira and uniques weigh less

i dont get it
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: Ultraman Zoffy on October 04, 2007, 03:30:16 AM
You would think that one of the upshots of using plastic would be that they'd end up being cheaper then aluminum, but at $32.99, it seems like they're a little overpriced. With neither a benefit in pricing or in weight/strength, I would have to agree... what's the point? =P
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: Budz on October 04, 2007, 03:40:05 AM
my mom worked for a chemical company years ago and they were developing some plastics that were strong as steel(just about) but lighter than aluminum. wonder what happened to that "miracle plastic"? Hmm.
im gonna have to agree that the price/weight values just arent enough to make me wanna switch from my old reliable alloy pegs.
im sure they are very quiet when u get all Chase and chuck ur bike tho.lol
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: glass city flat on October 04, 2007, 05:35:25 AM

im sure they are very quiet when u get all Chase and chuck ur bike tho.lol

thats not even funny!
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: TAKU on October 04, 2007, 06:39:45 AM
i think advantage of using plastic pegs is cushioning impact of bike fall.
i would buy them if i can get them in japan -_-
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: ancientskool on October 04, 2007, 07:41:04 AM
Plastic is always more forgiving to the shins.

I'd rather take a plastic peg to the calf over an aluminum one any day.  If they wear the same, cost the same and weigh about the same, they'd still be an improvement.

Of course...that's assuming the "ifs" all added up.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: timmyg on October 04, 2007, 01:51:27 PM
ok i guess it makes sense in some ways to have plastic pegs.. im still a little skeptical though.. when someone buys them and tests them hopefully theyll write a full 18 page review.

and kato.. check out flatlandfuel.com.. danscomp is whack its for street riders or something

flatlandfuel is fubu man

Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: Paradoxium on October 04, 2007, 02:17:21 PM
I think it would hurt less if you crash bad and land on your pegs in your back, I've seen that happen before. It would hurt less on your shins too , actually, it would hurt less than metal pegs no matter where you hit yourself. The weights good, you dont need lighter than that anyway, coz a bike has to weigh something.

It would be less stressful on your bike which is a good thing if you crash alot,
definately absorb some impact,[as already mentioned], and it'd be quiet when you crash too. I suppose i'm just emphasising a few previously mentioned comments, but it has a few positives. These pegs are good, as long as they last, and are durable.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: ancientskool on October 04, 2007, 02:43:04 PM
Yeah..if they are anywhere close to the durability of aluminum, then I think it WOULD be an improvement.

I'm a little skeptical myself as well.   I'd love to be pleasantly surprised by a positive review though.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: SIN on October 04, 2007, 04:15:00 PM
(http://plaza.ufl.edu/jpoole/grim/evanpeg.jpg)

FLATLAND PEG W/KNURLING

(http://www.danscomp.com/images/products/518074.gif)

STREET PEG W/ NO KNURLING


www.grimbikes.com


Grim bikes flatland pegs are being produced in 1.5dia.

The first run of these pegs were 1.75dia. but due to the popularity of smaller pegs they have went with the 1.5 size. If people are more comfortable with the bigger size im sure they would be able to do a run of that size.

The grim park pegs will not have any knurling to them.


the flatland pegs have no weight limit, they have been tested and rode by a few of the top flatlanders...

the street pegs have been tested by real street riders in the florida area...

to date not one of the pegs flatland or street have broke under normal riding conditions...

Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: laame on October 04, 2007, 04:43:33 PM
Price is too high for thoes pegs, but i was thinking to get GSport Plegs when they come out and put some griptape on them. I don't realy like this knurled plastic idea, becouse even my alluminum and magnezium pags pretty fast goes slick.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: FlatMallorca on October 04, 2007, 04:55:00 PM
A friend of mine made his own pegs with nylon...
Im riding with them (with griptape) and they work well, and are so light...
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: ancientskool on October 04, 2007, 05:13:25 PM
Well...when you think about it, the MKS/Stimulator pedals hold up pretty well, and they are plastic.  So, as far as the exterior goes I wouldn't have a lot of worries.  I just don't know about bending/cracking.  I'm sure they wouldn't be suitable for street.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: EZChris on October 04, 2007, 07:53:23 PM

to date not one of the pegs flatland or street have broke under normal riding circumstances...



What classes as normal? Does this mean we cannot try and come up with new tricks, as that wouldn't be "normal" riding?
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: glass city flat on October 04, 2007, 08:10:25 PM
there are some pretty good opions, and comments on here about this product!
witch is good because most products are  put down unless some rockstar of a rider is  indorseing it.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: SIN on October 04, 2007, 08:11:17 PM

to date not one of the pegs flatland or street have broke under normal riding circumstances...



What classes as normal? Does this mean we cannot try and come up with new tricks, as that wouldn't be "normal" riding?

normal riding conditions: a peg that has not been ground down so thin that it would break off…

This comment was mainly for the street pegs, over at another forum riders didn’t think plastics pegs would last 5 seconds with street riding….

Here is what a rider said that actually tried the flatland peg on street…

Anyways, he gave me a set of the flat pegs to ride street on and they held up surprisingly well. Stalls, grinds and everything. They ended up breaking because I grinded them down too thin (on brick and rough concrete ledges).
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: EZChris on October 04, 2007, 09:02:37 PM
I can't see it being a big hit for street riders then.

At 30.XX dollars or whatever I think everyone expects them to be able to take a few harsh ledges.

Might be a future in flatland tho, shame they cost so much.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: 13th Dimension on October 04, 2007, 09:26:23 PM
Plastic Park Peg is 17$, I think its same but without gnurling, little bit of griptape and..
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: SIN on October 04, 2007, 09:34:01 PM
I can't see it being a big hit for street riders then.

At 30.XX dollars or whatever I think everyone expects them to be able to take a few harsh ledges.

Might be a future in flatland tho, shame they cost so much.

If you ride any street at all I suggest you check out some other bike forums, street riders are dying to get their hands on the Odyssey PLEGS that have been talked about for the last year or so. Odyssey will be releasing these in the near future.


Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: TJ Perry on October 05, 2007, 01:11:02 AM
I've been testing them for a while now. They are wayyyy lighter than my sequences and my magnesium flys. You can tell a huge difference just by holding them in your hand. I've been through a few different versions and just got the 1.5s in the mail from Grim, so we'll see how those hold up. So far everything has held up pretty darn well considering they are plastic.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: ancientskool on October 05, 2007, 02:43:21 AM
I've been testing them for a while now. They are wayyyy lighter than my sequences and my magnesium flys. You can tell a huge difference just by holding them in your hand. I've been through a few different versions and just got the 1.5s in the mail from Grim, so we'll see how those hold up. So far everything has held up pretty darn well considering they are plastic.

Good to hear.  I wasn't planning on upgrading my pegs any time soon, but I like plastic (where it works) and now  I'm really tempted.

Oh..and the street pegs are priced individually.  So, they are pretty much the same as a pair of flat pegs.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: glass city flat on October 05, 2007, 03:55:46 AM
I've been testing them for a while now. They are wayyyy lighter than my sequences and my magnesium flys. You can tell a huge difference just by holding them in your hand. I've been through a few different versions and just got the 1.5s in the mail from Grim, so we'll see how those hold up. So far everything has held up pretty darn well considering they are plastic.

i honestly think the 1.65-.75 diameter is still a good thing for people that  want to ride a  normal t.t. length, and still  be able to move the bike around a good bit- but  what the hell do i know????????????



can i get some mag wheels with that?


yeah , the mag should  be avalible for a extra $20.00 as a pivitol  cap on the end of the peg.
just kidding!!!!!

Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: LOU4130 on October 05, 2007, 04:37:49 AM
they seem like a good idea, if they hold up for tj i bet they will do fine!.

Oh and for anyone who said they wouldnt hold up for street, the gsport plegs(someone mentioned these) have been tested by a few street riders and they are holding up very very well and the riders like them cuz you dont need to wax ledges and they are quiet for those late night sessions....i think you can check it out on the odyssey site. they seem pretty cool to me.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: TJ Perry on October 05, 2007, 08:25:29 AM
The plastic definitely works if it's made to the right thickness. Even thick they are still wayyyyy lighter than any other peg out there. My 1.75s were lighter than my magnesium pegs by a mile. My 2 pairs of 1.5s are lighter than my regular suelo griptape pegs up front!

Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: rully on October 05, 2007, 01:15:52 PM
So far everything has held up pretty darn well considering they are plastic.

please do let us know what you mean by that?

and also, how long do you think this pegs will last? longer than your aluminium/magnesium ones? if not then it not worth the price.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: ancientskool on October 05, 2007, 01:39:28 PM
So far everything has held up pretty darn well considering they are plastic.

please do let us know what you mean by that?

and also, how long do you think this pegs will last? longer than your aluminium/magnesium ones? if not then it not worth the price.

Why would a peg that is lighter and more forgiving safety-wise be marketed for the same price as pegs which are heavier and more likely to cause bruises and scrapes?  If it holds up exactly the same as aluminum or magnesium and it has the added features I've mentioned, then shouldn't they be worth more?  If they hold up only slightly less better, wouldn't their price be reasonable given the other unique features they possess?  Is it just because of perceived material/production costs?
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: PSchoolen on October 05, 2007, 05:09:32 PM
I've been testing them for a while now. They are wayyyy lighter than my sequences and my magnesium flys. You can tell a huge difference just by holding them in your hand. I've been through a few different versions and just got the 1.5s in the mail from Grim, so we'll see how those hold up. So far everything has held up pretty darn well considering they are plastic.

Its curious that Dans has these already when TJ and I are not even done testing them. The first version in thin wall 1.75 broke under TJ in a few days. The newer versions show much more promise though. If you are interested I would hold off until testing is complete and flatlandfuel gets the newest version of the Grim pegs.

Also, we are receiving some prototype Plegs from G Sport soon to start testing for flatland use. The engineering behind the Gsport pegs is intense. These hold a lot of promise.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: Budz on October 05, 2007, 05:23:46 PM

im sure they are very quiet when u get all Chase and chuck ur bike tho.lol

thats not even funny!
he was just the most popular bike chucker i could think of that everyone could relate to. of course i hold Chase in very high regard and would never disrespect the man. so please dont take it as a slam against him. Chase is the man as far as im concerned. everybody kno dat...shoo.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: cow on October 05, 2007, 05:31:21 PM
i mean if these pegs are the same cost and weight as aluminium or tit....thats kinda bad but on the flip side if they are as resiliant as the pedals that came with the gt shows......then thats wicked improve for flat.........

can't win em all....price/versus/weight/versus/durability.......matter of choice/preference....cool idea that plastic can be as strong as aluminium........

p.s ....question......how strong is it against fire???????????
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: TJ Perry on October 05, 2007, 06:10:08 PM


Its curious that Dans has these already when TJ and I are not even done testing them. The first version in thin wall 1.75 broke under TJ in a few days.

This isn't entirely accurate. The pegs lasted almost the whole summer of me riding A LOT. The only reason they broke is because the first version were just too thin. Slightly thicker and they would have lasted a lot longer and maybe not even broken at all.

Look at it this way. Those pegs lasted LONGER than my Quamen did. They were on my bike a longer span of time than I had my G6 built up. Funny eh?

This is why products are tested. They are tested for their limits. 
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: SIN on October 05, 2007, 08:19:27 PM


Its curious that Dans has these already when TJ and I are not even done testing them. The first version in thin wall 1.75 broke under TJ in a few days.


This isn't entirely accurate. The pegs lasted almost the whole summer of me riding A LOT. The only reason they broke is because the first version were just too thin. Slightly thicker and they would have lasted a lot longer and maybe not even broken at all.

Look at it this way. Those pegs lasted LONGER than my Quamen did. They were on my bike a longer span of time than I had my G6 built up. Funny eh?

This is why products are tested. They are tested for their limits. 



 (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/alerma/GrimBikes.jpg?t=1191608033)

         (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/alerma/GrimBikes-1.jpg?t=1191608164)

        Just to let every one know, the newest revision of the Grim Bikes pegs shows them at twice the thickness of the original.

Shown above on the LEFT is the original thin wall version 1.75dia.

Shown above on the RIGHT is the revised version 1.5dia.

The peg that broke after being rode just under a full summer was the thinner[above left side) first run of the pegs.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: EZChris on October 05, 2007, 08:33:18 PM
I'm intrested as to how the first run peg broke?

I mean, did it crack down the center and split in two, or just rip off the bolt, snap in half etc etc?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: PSchoolen on October 05, 2007, 08:48:21 PM

This isn't entirely accurate. The pegs lasted almost the whole summer of me riding A LOT. The only reason they broke is because the first version were just too thin. Slightly thicker and they would have lasted a lot longer and maybe not even broken at all.
 

Actually it was more than a few days. I checked our email and shipping log and it appears you had them for about a month before they broke. You received them around the end of July and broke them August 28th. I think the thicker ones will hold up a lot better though.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: katobmx on October 05, 2007, 11:34:58 PM
I was just wondering about them they are plastic. Danscomp usual has cool stuff like this early.I guess its because they've been around for a while
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: TJ Perry on October 06, 2007, 06:59:56 AM
I'm intrested as to how the first run peg broke?

I mean, did it crack down the center and split in two, or just rip off the bolt, snap in half etc etc?

Cheers.

It cracked down the center. It cracked on a really hard fall too. I went for a weird like.. bikeflip to halfpacker and the bike kept going since I missed the seat and it came down hard on the peg. Like I said, we'll see how these new versions hold up. I'm pretty confident they will though.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: Burlington Spencer on October 06, 2007, 08:35:33 AM
Won't they shatter in Winter?
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: SHIZM on October 06, 2007, 09:45:37 AM
...or melt in summer?
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: 13th Dimension on October 06, 2007, 10:32:01 AM
Yeah, if asphalt can melt at summer, wouldnt plastic do it aswell? Although I dont think anyone's had such an issue with a plastic bike part, like barends or pedals or whatever..
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: EZChris on October 06, 2007, 02:33:39 PM
Following that rule of plastic melting or freezing my car maintinece bill would be insane.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: Sweatpants on October 06, 2007, 03:50:37 PM
when the bike falls, does it make substantially less noise or what? that feature alone would open up some options for me and be well worth the price.

*it seems like another benefit of switching to a composite would maybe put less wear on shoes.  if these hold up to testing, i'm gonna ask Santa for 'em and see for myself
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: ancientskool on October 06, 2007, 04:09:25 PM
There are a lot of benefits to a plastic peg.  The only draw back I can think of would be that they could potentially be less sturdy than metal.  Based on TJ's feedback - it doesn't seem as though that would be the case.  Or at least the benefits of plastic would outweigh what little extra wear/tear there is.

I'll wait and hear what happens with these new sized pegs and see what Odyssey ends up with.  I'm guessing my next pegs will be some sort of plastic.
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: tranqulized on October 06, 2007, 04:51:45 PM
I left my girlfriends bike in my car for like a week this summer.... it was like 90 that whole week, so the inside of my car was an inferno... hopped on it to ride it up to the house, and the pedals were kinda gooey...
Not too sure how plastic pegs would do....
I would imagine after a few hard crashes, they would warp, wouldn't they? I've warped a few pairs of aluminum pegs to where, if you take them off the axle and put the pair of pegs flat dropout side against eachother, it isn't a straight line across, its like a frown... Those magnesium fly pegs did that a lil bit...
Im interested in seeing how they hold up long term... are they going to need to be replaced every couple of months like tires?

Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: rully on October 06, 2007, 05:11:49 PM
hey, if it reduces noise when the bike falls then it might be useful if we want to ride on wood surface or other smooth surfaces that we have to be extremely careful to ride on...
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: tranqulized on October 06, 2007, 05:30:27 PM
my mom worked for a chemical company years ago and they were developing some plastics that were strong as steel(just about) but lighter than aluminum. wonder what happened to that "miracle plastic"? Hmm.
im gonna have to agree that the price/weight values just arent enough to make me wanna switch from my old reliable alloy pegs.
im sure they are very quiet when u get all Chase and chuck ur bike tho.lol

You mean this stuff????
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=9181
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: glass city flat on October 07, 2007, 05:04:56 PM
brian , if it was tested @  U of M then it must work , right?

lol

GO BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Grim Plastic pegs
Post by: katobmx on October 07, 2007, 08:20:53 PM
The bike is always getting better are their any other innovative products that are coming out. I know Premium has devoloped super pedals that are 17-14mm in thickness.I think we should post a who bunch of innovative products as soon as someone has info and pics on them