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English => Parts & Bikes => Topic started by: ancientskool on July 04, 2007, 07:07:23 AM
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There's always a lot of questions about this bike. I just got one so I thought I'd start a single thread as a clearinghouse for Signal info.
Here's some specs I got this evening that can't be found on the DK website anywhere:
Complete bike weight, minus reflectors, chain guard, etc.: 31 lbs.
Frame 5lbs. 10.8oz.
Fork 3lbs. 2.2oz.
Handlebars - 1lb 11oz - 37 ounces - 757g
Brakes 4.4oz.ea.
Sprocket 6.2oz.
Crank 2lbs. 1.0oz. w/o bearing/hardware
Chain 8.2oz.
Pegs:
Weight: .43 lbs. 6.88 ounces, 195 grams each
Pair: .86 lbs. 13.76 ounces 390 grams
Size 4.375 long by 2" diameter
Wheels:
RIMS: Chrome 48 spoke Sun ZX25 280 grams each
Front - 1076 g (37.96 ounces 2.37 pounds)
Rear - 1299.81 g (45.85 ounces 2.87 pounds)
Total = 5.24 pounds 83.80 ounces
Tires: 655 g (23.45 ounces 1.47 lbs)
Stock Pedals: Wellgo LU-A8
Black - 576 g/pr
Wellgo pedals have easily removable reflectors
Taska 12 tooth non-sealed freecoaster. No aftermarket smaller sprockets known to be available.
Seat Clamp: 28.6 grams (it's actually stamped on the bottom of the clamp - that's what it weighed as well).
Seat Post: 195 grams
Seat: Made by Velo for DK (stamped on the bottom of the seat) 516 grams with the guts. 375 grams without. Seat length: 235mm long
Handlebars: 6.5" rise, 23.5" wide
Total Rise from bottom of stem to middle of the top of the handlebar grips: 7.75"
Also, I searched for the best bargain and ended up at Flatlandfuel. Most every place offers them for around $289, but one Ebay company offers free shipping (but their feedback seems to show them to have slow and less than optimum service) and another online store engages in a very deceptive practice of labeling all of their bikes with a "FREE SHIPPING" label. The only thing is that the offer has an "asterisk" and that leads to a disclaimer that "oversize" items aren't included. I didn't see where the definition of what was "oversized" was listed anywhere easily seen, so I decided to avoid them and their crappy dishonest sales schemes (Kona - cough-). I ended up back at Flatlandfuel. I got my bike in a couple of days and there were no suprises.
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If anyone has any questions, comments, measurement or picture requests, let me know. I'll update the thread as I gather more info.
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DK Signal Global Flat Links:
Post Your DK Signal Bike Pics Thread:
http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?topic=3745.0
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hey guys,i just started on this forum today.i was hoping that someone else out there with a dk signal could help me out or at least steer me in the right direction.the threaded sprocket on the freecoaster cracked in 5 places from torque,and i dont know where to find a replacement.i welded it on for a temporary fix.has anyone used guts from another f/c with replacement parts available?theres not many flatlanders out here,so i'm pretty much on my own for ideas.if i can't easily find a sprocket i'll just buy a custom set of wheel.except for the sprocket the stock wheels have been great. thanks,dime
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Taska doesnt sell the cogs separately for that hub but I have found another brand that works. Unfortunately they are $20 for just the cog. Keep in mind that for $35 you can buy another whole hub so you would get a new driver (which you will need anyway if you welded the old cog to it), bearings, cog, axle and everything else.
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Here's a photo of my Signal
(http://pages.suddenlink.net/kknopp/signal.jpg)
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Hey guys, I've just signed up today.
I'm 27, and i've decided it's never to late to try and learn flat. I had an old mongoose when i was a teenager, but i never stuck with it. I've just ordered a DK Signal from flatland matters, and I was after some advice on some basic upgrages i could get to make it lighter.
I've already bought some ODYSSEY Bar Mitzvah Hi Rise Black handle bars and some red ODYSSEY Jim Cielincki Aluminium Loose Bearing pedals. Going for the whole red to match the mint green frame thing.
I got the bike from flatland fuel and i also ordered a dark red We The People Supreme Seatclamp and a red Primo Hemmorhoid seat. Is this a good starter set up so far? hahaha
I'm thinking about getting some KHE Mac 1 Bonkers Light Folding Flatland BMX Tyre's. You can get them on ebay uk for £20 each. Would anyone recoment these or know anywhere to get them cheaper?
Also any other ideas would be welcome as I've never tried to do flatland before. I can just about manage to do a tail whip!
Cheers
Channy
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Cheers mate,
I've ordered my signal 2007, but i'm thinking i should of waited for the 08 model.
Ah, f*ck it! I like the mint green and I can't see them changing the spec that much
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Handlebar: 23.5" Wide
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decent bike, I recently bought one myself, my first BMX bike at 19. If you have the funds, I'd recommend getting a better bike to start with, it's quite far from being a perfect bike. I personally don't like the handlebar backsweep and offset fork.
BIG TIP: as soon as you get the bike, ride it a little bit, see if you're OK with the slack when you push the pedals, open up the back hub, take out a washer or two for more slack if you like, and (important) regrease the HELL out of the inside. you'll need a 15mm cone wrench to open it up. My driver was making noise and not working properly sometimes, and it seems to be a common problem. A sh*tload of grease and it runs a hell of a lot better now.
Also: put whatever spacers you need between the frame and wheels, you don't want to bend the frame at all.
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NEW 08 MODEL INFO:
http://www.flatlandfuel.com/item.jhtml?UCIDs=849786%7C889295&PRID=1561865
(http://www.flatlandfuel.com/Images/prod1290.jpg)
What's changed?
New colors/graphics (Purple/White and Blue/White) WAS: Mint Green Only
36H Chrome rims WAS: 48 Chrome rims
Front Load stem WAS: Top load stem
Kenda "Street Design" tires WAS Interstate 85 street tires
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Not keen on the color, I'm glad i went for the og balance now ;D
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Painting mine soon. Too cheap to buy new stuff, so I'm just going to have it painted. So while I have it apart for paint, I thought I would weigh some things that haven't been posted.
Frame 5lbs. 10.8oz.
Fork 3lbs. 2.2oz.
Brakes 4.4oz.ea.
Sprocket 6.2oz.
Crank 2lbs. 1.0oz. w/o bearing/hardware
Chain 8.2oz.
I don't know what color yet, but I'll post some pics when finished.
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what is it with 08 bikes there all looking sh*t
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Painting mine soon. Too cheap to buy new stuff, so I'm just going to have it painted. So while I have it apart for paint, I thought I would weigh some things that haven't been posted.
Frame 5lbs. 10.8oz.
Fork 3lbs. 2.2oz.
Brakes 4.4oz.ea.
Sprocket 6.2oz.
Crank 2lbs. 1.0oz. w/o bearing/hardware
Chain 8.2oz.
I don't know what color yet, but I'll post some pics when finished.
THANKS! Those are most of the specs I hadn't been able to get yet.
I think that the only thing not weighed now may be the handlebars.
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Hey Ancient, if it possible to heighten the seat? I have to ask because I don't know how to go about taking it apart, even though I am looking at the manual right now.
Just wondering if it can go any higher, or if I have to buy a seat post or something. Just having a hard time grabbing the seat (it is too low, or my arms are too short). THANK YOU -_-
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If you take an allen wrench and loosen the seat post clamp, you should be able to raise and lower the seat via the post. The seat post has a mark near the bottom that designates the highest you can adjust it without causing the seat post to fail. If you need to go higher than that, then you'd have to find a longer seat post.
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Anyone any idea Where/When i can get one of the new '08 models in the U.K? :huh:
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My Signal with a few upgrades.
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Stem: 40 mm reach - 11.5oz
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Soul Cycle has a photo of the 2008 BLUE DK SIGNAL...
(https://www.soulcycle.com/images/uploads/DKsignalbluegr.jpg)
https://www.soulcycle.com/shopping/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=1&cat=complete%20bikes&catalogid=11421
I like that MUCH better than the purple/white personally. The purple/white looks more "street", while the blue to me looks more "flat". They also have the parts set up more "flat" in the blue/black photo as well. Notice that the seat isn't "slammed" like with the purple one.
VERY NICE!!!
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wow that looks loads better in blue
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i actually like the purple, looks better in person. its a metallic color as well. the seat can always be un-slammed... lol just raise it up
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Hi guys, just joined. I've owned a Signal for a couple of years (Olive 05?) but I think I've just run the cranks into the ground, I'm thinking I definately need new cranks and bearings. I was wondering what a good 3 piece set would be for the signal and how the hell do I get the one piece off the bike in the first place? Cheers :beer:
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To remove one piece cranks...
loosen rear wheel nuts
undo chain off sprocket
remove non sprocket side pedal
remove plastic dust cover
undo first locknut
remove washer between the two locknuts
undo second locknut that seats the bearings
remove the bearings
then the entire crank assembly will slide out of that massive US bb
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that massive US bb
haha. You make US BBs sound so obsolete. Made me laugh. I have a US also, so I'm not making fun or anything, but it cracked me up. ^_^
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Well, my Signal came in today ;D ;D but my dad wont let me have it until christmas. :P :P
dont mind though since i just got off crutches today, and its freezing out. so i got until spring with this thing in my basement lmao. :ph34r:
I was thinking about what to do to it. please recommend what is THE BEST! i got some cash saved up- a few hundred. so money isnt that much of a problem.
1. Tires- something light, scuffable, and has a very high psi rating.
2. Gearing- essentially i want a gear ratio of 1/1 or close to it. maybe something a bit bigger so that i wont have THAT low of a top speed- but torque is essential.
3. Cranks- something short and light- 3 piece? whatever is best
4. Maybe some new brakes if the stock ones wont lock very well. anybody know how good they are? also- im not going to run brakeless. its too hard when riding in the street to get wherever im going. did it once on my old bike- nearly got hit by a car, and messed up my shoes lmao.
5. Anything else you guys recommend :ph34r: :ph34r: :beer: :beer:!
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Most of the stuff I'd just wait til "wear and tear' set in. With the tires though you'll see a big improvement in handling and weight by going with a premium set like the Ody Chase G tires or the KHE models. I prefer the ones around 1.75"
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Well I got my Signal today ;D ;D. I will get some pics up soon. First thing I did was remove all of the Reflectors and Chain Guard. After about 30 Minutes of riding up and down my block (easily since I just got of crutches) my brake pads started to stick much better. Everything seems to be A OK except my front brake seems to kind of "CLICK" when i pull it in. It doesn't have any affect on performance, so I'm not worried about it. I'm not sure if its just me, but it feels like the tires keep deflating ever so slightly, but I think its just me being paranoid. I like the thread pattern on the tires, but they definitely look cheap, and i cant find a brand on them. I will buy some KHE's soon enough though, as I don't think this thread will last TOO long. :ph34r: :ph34r:
Overall, everything is good. Compared to my old bike, tricks are MUCH easier (I had some bike who's name i do not know of which weighed WAY more then this- but i now have the strength!), and i got my Fork Glide about 75% dialed, but i just cant seem to keep it that straight. I'm still working on my Dork Wheelie, and it seems to be coming out pretty good. i am right at the balance point, but if I'm right below it, I pull back to hard and I am forced to bail out.
Happy Riding,
David Xerri
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Anyone know the status of the 08' Signals? Last I heard they were hard to come by. I'm assuming that the demand was more than DK had anticipated and they are waiting for more to be made?
Anyone have any pictures of one of the blue ones taken in person?
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Where can I buy a Signal from? I can't find it on Flatlandfuel.com or on any other sites.
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Anyone have any pictures of one of the blue ones taken in person?
Here's mine from right after I first assembled it:
(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/big_doug_23/IMG_0697Large.jpg)
(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/big_doug_23/IMG_0706Large.jpg)
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I just bought one for my girlfriends son and all of the chrome peeled off of the sidewalls in just four days. Not just a little, the whole wheel! It came with chrome alianation pbr's so stay away from those rims! Other than that no major bitches for the money.
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I just bought one for my girlfriends son and all of the chrome peeled off of the sidewalls in just four days. Not just a little, the whole wheel! It came with chrome alianation pbr's so stay away from those rims! Other than that no major bitches for the money.
dude my 3 month old sun chrome hub is all peeling now too.
I tell you chrome is sh*t these days.
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Yes but four short sessions is simply unacceptable. He can't ever do a trackstand and tailwhip yet. The bike might have 5 or 6 hours on it TOPS! This is his first bike and the rim is bare now. Alianation pbr's are garbage!
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Yes but four short sessions is simply unacceptable. He can't ever do a trackstand and tailwhip yet. The bike might have 5 or 6 hours on it TOPS! This is his first bike and the rim is bare now. Alianation pbr's are garbage!
Hey I agree... I think chrome peeling after 3 months is unacceptable out of a hub that doesn't even see friction or wear is BS too! Might as well be 6 hours on it.
It's the chrome process nowadays..it sux to sum it up.
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The chrome Sun wheels that came with my 07 signal are still good as new! :beer:
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Hey, I am new to flatland had the dk signal 08 for a couple months but only really started using it recently. I am upgrading the tires to the KHE premiums, and I was wondering if anyone knows what size of rim tape I need for the rims. I went to my local bike store and they gave me 17mm, but I wasnt sure if i needed 22mm. Any info would be great. Thanks
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Hey, I am new to flatland had the dk signal 08 for a couple months but only really started using it recently. I am upgrading the tires to the KHE premiums, and I was wondering if anyone knows what size of rim tape I need for the rims. I went to my local bike store and they gave me 17mm, but I wasnt sure if i needed 22mm. Any info would be great. Thanks
bahhh! you don't need rim tape. 2 layers of duct tape or electrical tape works just as well.
No one sees the inside of the rim. :)
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On that rim there are two places that have a set of four small holes that are kind of sharp. Make sure you tape them well. Just a heads up.
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Anyone have any pictures of one of the blue ones taken in person?
Here's mine from right after I first assembled it:
([url]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/big_doug_23/IMG_0697Large.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/big_doug_23/IMG_0706Large.jpg[/url])
Is that blue a metallic shade? It looks quite a bit different in color there than in some promotional pictures I've seen:
(https://www.soulcycle.com/images/uploads/DKsignalbluegr.jpg)
I wonder which photo it looks more like in person. I liike both shades, it just looks different than I thought it was supposed to. :)
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Thanks for the advice about taping my rims...and next time maybe ill just use electrical tape -_-
@ Ancientskool
His pictures are a lot close to the actual color of the bike, it is just a solid light blue. The pictures of that DK came out with have a light above the bike making it shiny and lighter.
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His pictures are a lot close to the actual color of the bike, it is just a solid light blue. The pictures of that DK came out with have a light above the bike making it shiny and lighter.
I wouldn't say it is a solid color, since it has definitely got a metallic look when you get up real close to it. You can kind of see it if you click on this direct link:
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/big_doug_23/IMG_0711.jpg (http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/big_doug_23/IMG_0711.jpg)
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Well a little update to my rim tape question.....apparently DK signal 08 has the alienation PBR and it already has a rim strip on it :mellow: :P
ALSO props to flatlandfuel ordered on Thursday or Friday..got them Monday morning :)
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I wouldn't say it is a solid color, since it has definitely got a metallic look when you get up real close to it. You can kind of see it if you click on this direct link
Thanks for the photo! Yeah, you could sort of see a little "shimmer" to the color that made it look as though there were some metal flakes in the paint. The linked photo makes it pretty clear what the color should look like up close. I was digging the lighter blue, but with the metalic effect, the darker blue is pretty cool as well.
NICE!
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same goes for the purple- much more dark then there photos. very nice color indeed ;D
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Man, that's a pretty sweet ride to start out on. You don't have to do anything but put it together and a pretty reasonable price.
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hey everybody
i am a total beginner at flatland. never tried but it seems cool and it's something i wanna do. i plan on ordering a dk signal sometime next week so:
is there any stock parts of the bike that I should replace with better parts? if so what parts and what should I replace them with?
also do I have to adjust the seat or anything or does a rider that is 5ft and a rider that is 5ft 11 just get on the same bike and go??
please help a beginner. thanks :D
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just ride it and replace parts as you feel needed. as far as adjusting the seat yes you need to change it to your preferences there is no one set height for everyone. adjust bars,brakes,levers cables you name it just adjust to where you are comfortable with them not where some one else sets them
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I just picked up a Signal and i'm having trouble with the front brakes. When i do what the manual says, or what i think it says, i end up with the left pad (as you're sitting on it), not moving off of the wheel. When i adjust the cable housing/nut thing, the other pad goes towards and away from the wheel like it's supposed to, but the left pad just stays resting on it. I've tried lots of different things, and i'm not sure what i could be doing wrong. Any tips?
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I just picked up a Signal and i'm having trouble with the front brakes. When i do what the manual says, or what i think it says, i end up with the left pad (as you're sitting on it), not moving off of the wheel. When i adjust the cable housing/nut thing, the other pad goes towards and away from the wheel like it's supposed to, but the left pad just stays resting on it. I've tried lots of different things, and i'm not sure what i could be doing wrong. Any tips?
disconnect the cable from the brake, unscrew the nut on the brake lever as far as itll go without it falling out, have a friend hold the brakes so that they are touching the rim, re-attach cable and pull reallll tight, let out about .25 inches of slack, tighten, let go of brake, screw in nut. Thats pretty much it! ;D ;D
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I just picked up a Signal and i'm having trouble with the front brakes. When i do what the manual says, or what i think it says, i end up with the left pad (as you're sitting on it), not moving off of the wheel. When i adjust the cable housing/nut thing, the other pad goes towards and away from the wheel like it's supposed to, but the left pad just stays resting on it. I've tried lots of different things, and i'm not sure what i could be doing wrong. Any tips?
disconnect the cable from the brake, unscrew the nut on the brake lever as far as itll go without it falling out, have a friend hold the brakes so that they are touching the rim, re-attach cable and pull reallll tight, let out about .25 inches of slack, tighten, let go of brake, screw in nut. Thats pretty much it! ;D ;D
Yeah, that's what i've been doing. One arm moves just like it should, and the other stays completely stationary. I'm sure i just hooked something up wrong. Here's a picture. I don't understand what's supposed to stop that left arm (right arm in the picture) from just naturally being pulled onto the wheel. Anyway, i'm new to these things and clearly underqualified, so any advice would be great. Thanks!
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hello. please note that when you make any fine adjustments to the tightness of your brake cable, you'll want to do so using the nut at the BRAKE end of the cable. this one is made of steel and therefore won't strip or break as easily as the nut at the LEVER end of the cable, which to my understanding is made of aluminum and is therefore not as sturdy. so just keep the nut at the lever end of the cable screwed all the way in at all times.
as far as the one brake arm that stays next to the rim all the time, this is caused by your brake not being centered. take a look at your brakes. see the two allen key bolts that hold the brake onto the mounting posts? well, just barely outside of each allen key bolt you will notice that there are flat ends on either side of it. take a wrench and turn these "flat ends" in the direction you need the brake to adjust. please note that this has a different effect than turning the allen key bolts themselves. if you turn the allen key bolts, you will instead adjust the tightness/pressure on the springs inside the brakes, which may or may not be necessary to solve your centering problem.
hope that helps. cheers
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hello. please note that when you make any fine adjustments to the tightness of your brake cable, you'll want to do so using the nut at the BRAKE end of the cable. this one is made of steel and therefore won't strip or break as easily as the nut at the LEVER end of the cable, which to my understanding is made of aluminum and is therefore not as sturdy. so just keep the nut at the lever end of the cable screwed all the way in at all times.
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TOTALLY not true. the only easy way to get it really dialed is to use the nut at the lever.
its plenty strong enough
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just take them off.. you'll never look back i promise you.
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hey guys wonderin whether should buy signal for 500 (im in Australia) or order one from global flat for 430.
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hey guys wonderin whether should buy signal for 500 (im in Australia) or order one from global flat for 430.
Buy it, with shipping from global flat it will be even more.
FOR THE BRAKES...
I figured out your problem on the train today...
Just loosen the nuts that hold the brake to the fork. not the allen nut, but the other hand tightened one.
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Aboot that wheel, they mailed a new wheel, tire, and tube. It was the wrong wheel. They said keep it and mailed out the right wheel and another tire and tube. All this in three or four business days. They made it right.
On a side note i bent the cranks on his bike trying to do feeble grinds. After i landed a few they were shot so i had to replace them too. That was my fault though but i needed to do it. That was my first feeble grind in 17 years.
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Aboot that wheel, they mailed a new wheel, tire, and tube. It was the wrong wheel. They said keep it and mailed out the right wheel and another tire and tube. All this in three or four business days. They made it right.
On a side note i bent the cranks on his bike trying to do feeble grinds. After i landed a few they were shot so i had to replace them too. That was my fault though but i needed to do it. That was my first feeble grind in 17 years.
Lol... I have yet to try a feeble grind... tempted though.
Your lucky for getting a new wheel...
When I bent my axle DK said that its not warranted... pretty yag.
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I got my Signal today. I thought I'd share my experience so far.
As I was putting it together, I felt bad for those out there who have posted in these forums who have shown concern about putting it together. I found some of it a bit tricky.
To put the pegs on, you need socket wrenches and extensions long enough go through the pegs and tighten the wheel nuts. I'm lucky I could come up with the right combination of extensions and deep sockets to tighten both sides at the same time. On one side I had an awesome combination: big-socket-wrench-->big-to-medium-adapter-->medium-extension-->medium-to-big-adapter-->big-socket. hahaha
The rear axle nuts are pretty big... bigger than any typical Walmart bike... or most bike shop bikes I've ever seen. I'm new to flatland... so maybe it's the norm here.
Anyway, I used a 17mm sockets in the front and 19mm in the rear.
I also found my front wheel's bearings were too tight. When you hold a wheel by the axle in your hands and spin it, you should not feel the bearings. If it feels bumpy... or crunchy (hard to describe) then the cone nuts are too tight.
The wheels have inner cone nuts and outer lock nuts. Ideally, the cone nuts get adjusted just right, and the lock nuts keep their neighboring cone nuts in place. (Two nuts that once spun easily on a threaded rod do not move easily once they are tightened against each other) But I was able to loosen a cone nut on one side a bit by turning it with its lock nut. But not much at all. Just enough so I couldn't feel the bearing when I turned the wheel, but not so loose that you can feel play when jiggling the axle. You really should not be able to feel any play. Sometimes you might have to compromise. I'd rather feel the bearings more than feel play in the axle. Play in the axle means your wheel is wobbling and you don't want that. You might have to settle for some bearing "bumpiness"... but you probably won't feel it when you ride anyway.
Oh... I also checked the bearings on one side and I saw enough grease. So I was content with that.
The rear wheel seemed good. No bearing problems, so I left it as is. But while I had it off I took the chain off the crank sprocket and turned the crank. WTF! It was actually hard to turn. That's not right.
This is a one piece crank and has a lock washer holding a cone nut on the non-sprocket side. I used a spanner wrench (I was lucky to have) to loosed the cone. Once it seemed free to move without feeling any play in the crank, I held the cone in place with the spanner and tightened the lock nut. If you don't have a spanner, you might be able to hold that cone at the right position using a flat head screw driver from the side. I think I remember doing that about 20 years ago when I was a kid with no tools.
I assumed the bearings in the crank had enough grease. I didn't check.
I tried the best I could to lube the cable housings with tri-flow. The front cable was easy because it had no end on it and I could take the housing all the way off. The rear cabled are trickier and mostly installed so I just did the best I could with the housing still on the bike.
Tomorrow evening I'll work on adjusting the brakes.
Hope this helps someone.
Ion
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repairs are wayyyyyy easier with the right tools... its an investment worth making...
GET A CONE WRENCH!!
i spent hours fiddling with normal tools until i got one... took me ten minutes using it.
and it came out perfect!
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I printed and followed the directions posted in another thread to adjust my new Signal's brakes.
http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?topic=13890.msg135684#msg135684
I am happy with the results.
As long as I was loosing the springs, I removed the brakes completely and greased each post. There was some grease already on them, though one was a bit dry.
I was surprised at very little the springs needed to be turned. I must have only rotated them 45 degrees, maybe even less.
I think I'll use what I learned here to fix the u-brakes on my son's bike.
Ion
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good on you for using whats already on the website as a resource.
Matt-bmx.com has a really good tutorial on setting up a front brake.
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So the Opsis is a better way to go now?
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So the Opsis is a better way to go now?
The Opsis isn't avaiable anywhere yet. The Signal is. The Opsis has several upgrades over the Signal. The only thing some might consider a downgrade is from chrome wheels to black wheels.
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Thats alright, not really a chrome kinda guy. When does the Opsis actually come out then? Was gna get it for Christmas ;D So i don't have to actually buy it myself haha.
Sorry, just checked on Danscomp. Come out in like 8 days haha.
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Thats alright, not really a chrome kinda guy. When does the Opsis actually come out then? Was gna get it for Christmas ;D So i don't have to actually buy it myself haha.
Sorry, just checked on Danscomp. Come out in like 8 days haha.
thing is that chrome brakes WAYYY better then black....
Yes, the opsis will be a better bike and it IS replacing the Signal
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Pretty mad I bought a Signal, then the same thing, same price with better parts, comes out a month or two later.
Shoulda just waited for the bike show. :angry:
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Pretty mad I bought a Signal, then the same thing, same price with better parts, comes out a month or two later.
Shoulda just waited for the bike show. :angry:
dont regret... your not missing out too much.
same thing happened between the 07 and 08 signal. Its not going to be THAT much different.
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I agree. There are even a thing or two I like better on the older Signals. Myself, I prefer the chrome rims. If you sat around and waited for the latest/greatest for every purchase, you'd never buy anything.
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I agree. There are even a thing or two I like better on the older Signals. Myself, I prefer the chrome rims. If you sat around and waited for the latest/greatest for every purchase, you'd never buy anything.
seriously.
chrome is WAYY better then black. also the older signal has a lighter front wheel ;D
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I don't think that the opsis is a whole lot different
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My friend got an opsis for christmas. Its a smaller frame i think, and the cranks are much, much nicer than the one piece cranks on my signal. Which will be replaced anyhow...
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Anyone know when the Opsis will be arriving in Australia? Looking around everywhere but can't find one... :<
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little update... a bit late...
Opsis is available worldwide ^_^ ;D ;D
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OKAY
Quick question which is pretty much Opsis related.
It has a 19" toptube, and that is pretty smallll
im 5'10", still growing, and thinking about ordering the opsis, is it too small?
sorry, just didnt want to make a new thread for this Q.
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you will be fine with the 19inch tt. From what I see 19 is on the bigger side for flat frames. Btw I am 6'1 and ride the opsis just fine even with 0 offset bars and forks.
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OKAY
Quick question which is pretty much Opsis related.
It has a 19" toptube, and that is pretty smallll
im 5'10", still growing, and thinking about ordering the opsis, is it too small?
sorry, just didnt want to make a new thread for this Q.
19"tt is on the larger side of things when it comes to flatland frames...
im 5'8" and growing and id like a frame around 18.5 inches maybe shorter. :beer: :beer:
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Ah one more Q haha
does the opsis comes with brakes/brake lever? https://www.danscomp.com/101126.php?cat=BIKES (https://www.danscomp.com/101126.php?cat=BIKES)
cant find it listed there,
im a noob, and riding without brakes isnt something i wanna start with...
sorry if i like read past it or w/e
just checkin
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definitely does. Tektro 907/908 brakes and tektro levers, and a gyro. Go for it, I've had mine and it's been great so far.
edit: If you can, see if you could wait until the dates that Dans says they'll have the bike in stock, cause flatlandfuel may get it in before or at the same time... and giving pat all the business we can will only help in the long run.
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Yeah, I guess it's availability (?) but flatlandfuel has removed the opsis from their web page and dans has it april 22 silver, may 8ish green. just fyi. At least it'll keep me responsible and riding my turd for a few more weeks. Come may I have some thinking to do... green or silver... hmmmmm?
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Yea, I saw that on Dan's, but FLF usually just puts it up once they're available, instead of posting something they don't have in stock...
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I just looked on dans comp today and I'v been keeping track on the DK Opsis for about a month and i noticed that they put the availabilty date back to 5/7/09 when it was 4/22/09 for the silver matallic I was just wondering for what reason and if people would still recomend this bike and if theres any new news on it. I was planing on ordering it from danscomp this weekend
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Hi, my silver Opsis is supposed to arrive today, i ordered it from frankford bicycle: http://commerce.idmi.net/ecommerce/catalog_detail.asp?CID=168&CI=3658&PI=34666 (http://commerce.idmi.net/ecommerce/catalog_detail.asp?CID=168&CI=3658&PI=34666)
no tax (depending on what state you live in) and free shipping! can't wait to get it!
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I got it last night and finally put it together...
i had a khe reverse freecoaster wheel , some g-sport plegs, and a demolition seat and seatpost lying around, so i put those on and switched in some khe folding tires and an animal lite sprocket. went street riding today so I haven't gotten to ride it yet, but i am going riding tomorrow, i'll let you know how it goes!
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i have a noob question :huh:
i was looking around some sites that have these and some say that it has a freecoaster, some say a cassette
so which one does it come with? or am i way off?
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Definatley a freecoaster, I belive it is an 11t unsealed unit.
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Definatley a freecoaster, I belive it is an 11t unsealed unit.
12t unsealed taska...
unlesss if they changed it?
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Mine was a 14t taska (unsealed)
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gearing is 28-14 taska unsealed ;D
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I just looked on dans comp today and I'v been keeping track on the DK Opsis for about a month and i noticed that they put the availabilty date back to 5/7/09 when it was 4/22/09 for the silver matallic I was just wondering for what reason and if people would still recomend this bike and if theres any new news on it. I was planing on ordering it from danscomp this weekend
The latest from DK is they expect a small batch of Opsis bikes on May 21st with another batch in late June. Flatlandfuel is taking orders for them now if you want to make sure you get one from this month's batch. Mention Global-Flat and any pre-orders will receive a free Ground Rules DVD with their bike. Contact me if you have any questions.
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gearing is 28-14 taska unsealed ;D
hmmm...
cheap way of bringing down the gear ratio i assume?
really they should have just dropped the front 4 teeth or so
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first post..
.. so ive been thinking about getting the opsis. well actually im pretty sure i am. but wanted to order a new rear wheel in the process. BUT, im not sure what size dropouts it has? flatlandfuel says 14mm, danscomp says 3/8, and the dk pdf catalog says 10mm.
so can anyone with an opsis confirm this for me? which is it 14mm or 3/8 rear dropouts?
thanks
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I am not sure where the 10mm comes into play but I believe the front wheel is 3/8ths with the 14mm washers and the rear wheel is 3/8 with the studs that make them 14mm to fit the 14mm dropout. so long answer short, the rear dropout is 14mm.
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I am not sure where the 10mm comes into play but I believe the front wheel is 3/8ths with the 14mm washers and the rear wheel is 3/8 with the studs that make them 14mm to fit the 14mm dropout. so long answer short, the rear dropout is 14mm.
Correctamundo.
And order from Pat... much more customer friendly - flatlandfuel.com
Also... I got the stolen easystreet and laced it to an Alex rim. Just regreased it and it's really smooth. I don't have much freecoaster experience, but it's really consistent. My only worry for it (not a problem for me) is you can't have much slack. Max slack seems to be just under a 1/4 crank. But I have mine set just above minimum, so no problem.
:beer:
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yay. thanks for the replies. now all i have to do is just get my pre-order in and hope i can claim one in the next shipment. ;D
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so im ready to buy one of these and probably start flatlanding. (need something to do when im not paintballing on the weekends)
where is the best place to buy the opsis???? (when theyre available)
i know flatlandfuel, danscomp, and sunrise cyclery has em (and sunrise even has the free shipping)
and whats the chances of a local bike shop having one of these (or any other flatland bike?)
thanks once again
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Flatlandfuel.com for ALL your flatland needs.
I wouldnt buy from anywhere else.
Patrick Schoolen is just the coolest guy ever- great service and fast shipping.
Local bike shops can order it in for you, but why bother? just get it straight from pat!
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Hey guys, anyone know how to get hold of the Opsis in the EU? I'm from england, sure as hell nowhere in england sells it, i've looked all over... I mean flatlandlandfuel would be a good option but it's expensive for shipping and there's a chance it'll be taxed to hell upon arrival
Any ideas?
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Hey guys, anyone know how to get hold of the Opsis in the EU? I'm from england, sure as hell nowhere in england sells it, i've looked all over... I mean flatlandlandfuel would be a good option but it's expensive for shipping and there's a chance it'll be taxed to hell upon arrival
Any ideas?
Contact DK to see about their overseas distributors.
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For those that have been waiting....the last batch of Opsis bikes for 2009 just arrived. We have less than 20 of each color available.
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i just got mine and been riding it for maybe a week...i really like it but then again im brand new to flat land... im 6`2 and my feet do bump the back pegs sometimes but its manageable.. having touble adjusting the brakes though but thats just my noobness
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Hi. I'm new and hope to start with a DK Opsis however I'm seeing many stores out of stock on this bike.
Will there be more Opsis bikes produced for 2009? Will a 2010 Opsis be available or is there another bike that will replace it?
What is a good alternative to the Opsis?
Thanks.
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Hi. I'm new and hope to start with a DK Opsis however I'm seeing many stores out of stock on this bike.
Will there be more Opsis bikes produced for 2009? Will a 2010 Opsis be available or is there another bike that will replace it?
What is a good alternative to the Opsis?
Thanks.
Check out flatlandfuel.com, and they should still have an Opsis...or check out any of their other complete bikes. They sell only flatland bikes, and any complete bike there should get you on the road...err, I mean the parking lot.
You can also check this website in the sale/trade section for complete bikes for sale...but if you are a beginner, your best bet would be flatlandfuel.com
Good peeps over there...
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Yes, they do...here's the link.
http://www.flatlandfuel.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=25 (http://www.flatlandfuel.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=25)
Go for it, you won't regret it. Good starting bike.
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I know about flatlandfuel.com and I know how everyone loves it there but I'm looking to get the Opsis cheaper. I'm going to Grad school soon, so every dollar counts.
A lot of competitor sites of flatlandfuel run promotion codes and free shipping over a certain amount which can get me the Opsis pretty cheap but they're all sold out. That's why I want to know if the Opsis is still being produced. I don't mind waiting a little bit. This is in no way offense to FLF. I know how much they support the sport.
So my question is, is there an ongoing production of the DK Opsis?
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I know about flatlandfuel.com and I know how everyone loves it there but I'm looking to get the Opsis cheaper. I'm going to Grad school soon, so every dollar counts.
A lot of competitor sites of flatlandfuel run promotion codes and free shipping over a certain amount which can get me the Opsis pretty cheap but they're all sold out. That's why I want to know if the Opsis is still being produced. I don't mind waiting a little bit. This is in no way offense to FLF. I know how much they support the sport.
So my question is, is there an ongoing production of the DK Opsis?
Well, Pat at FF said that the June batch would be the last this year. I don't know if that means for them, or what DK is producing. I am thinking that's it for the year...especially if everyone is sold out of them. I think DK has a wonderful thing going with the Opsis, they NEED to make more. If everyone keeps selling out of them, why wouldn't they? It's in demand, because it's a great starter bike, and people can't throw down a ton of money all the time. Which leads me to this...
I think that all companies should take note. People need to be able to afford to get into flatland(hell, any form of BMX)...if not, that's what will keep new people to the sport from ever starting. Seems to me, that a lot of complete bikes are way to expensive, and don't always hold up that well.
Anywho, did you check Dans Comp? I don't many other places that sell it. Are you here in the United States?
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Yea, I wish DK would meet the demands. Hopefully they will produce more of the Opsis.
I live in NYC.
I checked Dans Comp a couple months ago and they had the Opsis for $339.99, and if I remember correctly $25 shipping. They also had a 15% off coupon and a free mesh bag with purchase. I wanted to buy the Opsis then but I was filling out a lot of school applications (and paying their fees) that I couldn't justify spending more money on a bike. Now that I know I am accepted and will have to move, I would like to bring a bike with me to keep me entertained since where I'm going won't be anything like NYC. I hope the Opsis is still being produced and will stock online retailers. I have my fingers crossed.
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if the opsis isnt available, there are other alternatives that can probably meet your price range
you can look into the militant ff (which is what i have right now)
or you can find a relatively nice bike on the marketplace forum
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Yea, I wish DK would meet the demands. Hopefully they will produce more of the Opsis.
I live in NYC.
I checked Dans Comp a couple months ago and they had the Opsis for $339.99, and if I remember correctly $25 shipping. They also had a 15% off coupon and a free mesh bag with purchase. I wanted to buy the Opsis then but I was filling out a lot of school applications (and paying their fees) that I couldn't justify spending more money on a bike. Now that I know I am accepted and will have to move, I would like to bring a bike with me to keep me entertained since where I'm going won't be anything like NYC. I hope the Opsis is still being produced and will stock online retailers. I have my fingers crossed.
I found this in the marketplace here on Global.
http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?topic=28134.msg246389#msg246389 (http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?topic=28134.msg246389#msg246389)
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Pic of the 2010 model.
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Pat at Flatland Fuel has the 2010 models, and a few of the 09 models left. As far as I can tell...they are the same...except for paint. 09 models are discounted...snatch em up! I think DK has a wonderful thing going with the Opsis. We NEED these beginner bikes.
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Go to danscomp.com, enter code 39m1 at the checkout.....2010 DK Opsis shipped to your door, 288.00.....not thats a deal. Code is only good till the end of the month.
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Minor changes, they went to 36h rims and 1in diameter pegs, used to be 48h rims and 2in diameter pegs.
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Minor changes, they went to 36h rims and 1in diameter pegs, used to be 48h rims and 2in diameter pegs.
Oh, yes indeed...I did notice the pegs, but didn't notice the 36's. Nice...kind of brings it up to modern standards a bit. I honestly think this is the best beginner bike out right now.
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if price wasnt an issue, what is a better bike out of opsis and militant ff??
i like the look of the frame on the militant and for the price there should be slightly better parts or a better feel to it. but have heard alot about the opsis. anyone who could help me out??
:beer:
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if price wasnt an issue, what is a better bike out of opsis and militant ff??
i like the look of the frame on the militant and for the price there should be slightly better parts or a better feel to it. but have heard alot about the opsis. anyone who could help me out??
:beer:
Look and feel are subjective. The price between the two isn't that great. We are talking 20 bucks.
If you ask me, the parts are about the same in quality. The DK does have 3 piece cranks, but cranks can be replaced. If you like the frame better, then that would be what I based my decision on unless you really where super price sensitive. I think that the Opsis is the best deal around, but all of the newer complete bikes on the low end are pretty good values.
You probably won't go wrong spending or saving a few extra bucka if you just buy the bike that seems to have the features you need, and the looks you want.
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I just bought my 2010 DK Opsis from DansComp. for $288.54 shipped....use promo code 39n5 good for 20% off total.
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ok i havent looked through the entire thread but i looked through most of it and, correct me if im wrong ;D, there is no list of opsis specs. i know it is probably similar to signal but just wondering what the differences were. :huh:
thanks
josh
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2010 DK Opsis
Chromoly main frame (front triangle)
Chromoly forks
19" Toptube
13" Chainstay
75 degree Headtube
70 degree Seat tube
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can anyone tell me if the 2010 dk opsis is gyro so I can spin bars 360 without having to detangle it!
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can anyone tell me if the 2010 dk opsis is gyro so I can spin bars 360 without having to detangle it!
Yes it does.
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360, 720, go crazayy.
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yes^^. the opsis comes with a detangler(gyro). It is complete and ready to ride!!
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Thanks guys! I'm looking to get some cash to get this bmx but does anyone know anyone that sells this bike within the united kingdom?
Unfortunatly Danscomp shipping prices seems rather high :S I could litreally buy another bmx for the price it cost to ship it to me :O unless I'm reading it wrong! It says complete bmx $194
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They don't have it on Kunstform.com but they do offer three beginner flatland bikes,they are:
2009 KHE Militant AM 329.00 EUR
2008 KHE DaFunction 399.00 EUR
2009 KHE Militant LT 449.00 EUR
And the good thing is there is free shipping to the European Union if order totals 299€ or more.
Free shipping to the rest of Europe if the toal is 499€ or more.
Hope that helps some.
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I'm also interested in buying the DK opsis. I contacted both the UK and European distributors for DK bikes and they both tell me it's not available in UK or Europe. So I'll have to buy from the US, which more than doubles the retail price. Unless you get lucky with not getting charged import tax. Wouldn't count on it though.
Been procrastinating myself whether to go for the dk opsis or just buy the inferior a-damn am bike, which is available in the UK. Either way it's not cheap, but that's a given I guess for flatland. Need to start saving the pennies/notes.
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I did manage to contact DK directly and they did have a website based here which apparently sel them, but their website is all over the place and I didn't understand it....
The shipping cost is one thing, but import tax is another, and also if you have to buy new bike bits that means more shipping +import tax... :angry:
so yea, I'm not gonna get this bike shame really I could do with a spare bike
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That surprises me that there's a website in the uk that sells the dk opsis. I've been searching for such a site without success, and I thought they weren't available in Europe - according to the distributors. What's the url of the website?
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I did manage to contact DK directly and they did have a website based here which apparently sel them, but their website is all over the place and I didn't understand it....
The shipping cost is one thing, but import tax is another, and also if you have to buy new bike bits that means more shipping +import tax... :angry:
so yea, I'm not gonna get this bike shame really I could do with a spare bike
Get a KHE from Kunstform http://www.kunstform.org/bmx-bikes-bmx-beginners-c-30_60.html?language=en (http://www.kunstform.org/bmx-bikes-bmx-beginners-c-30_60.html?language=en)
That surprises me that there's a website in the uk that sells the dk opsis. I've been searching for such a site without success, and I thought they weren't available in Europe - according to the distributors. What's the url of the website?
I found an online U.K. based bike shop that says they carry flatland bikes from DK bikes and KHE but they don't have any listed.... https://www.customriders.com/default.asp (https://www.customriders.com/default.asp)
There is another U.K. based online shop that carrys DK Bikes but it's all older stuff and no DK Opsis.
Probably easier and maybe even cheaper to just get a KHE over there.
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sorry it took a while for me to find the site, heres the email I got:
Scoop BMX handles all DK sales there in the UK, you can contact then or check their site for DK dealers in your area.
www.scoopbmx.com (http://www.scoopbmx.com)
So thats your best bet! Let me know if you manage to get one! :P
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Well then call them,mail them,email them...
Scoop Distribution
617 Jubilee Road, Letchworth, Hertfordshire, SG6 1NE
Tel: 01462 650741
Fax: 01462 650742
Email: info@scoopbmx.com
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I've already contacted them, along with the European distributors Unity Distribution. Both say "not available in Europe or UK".
Will probably order from the US, when I save up enough funds.
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Ok well after a few yrs of not riding, I bit the bullet and bought an opsis just now. HAMMER DOWN!
Being that i havent flatlanded really since the mid to late 90's and i had went to skateparks until about 2000, then stopped riding all together for like 8 yrs, I'm gonna be rusty as hell.
Left off with hitchikers and hangfive variations. seeing what guys are doing now is INSANE!
anyways, if anyone is in the area of the Inland Empire lets meet up and pull some sessions once in a while. i am near the ontario mills mall. thats about 40 miles east of LA.. otherwise i'll just be riding by myself. either way i'm stoked to start riding again. Last time i rode i was on a S&M NG dirtbike set up for park riding. wonder how this opsis is gonna feel?
kevn4332@yahoo.com
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well got the opsis delivered today. put it together. bars are rather wide. cut each side down an inch. took all the brakes off(pic shows with brakes on), tires say to only inflate to 65 psi.. dont think so. after about 85 i stopped though. all the while waiting for the pop!
this bike is pretty good for the money. looks nice. rear dropouts are a lil wimpy but whatever. freecoaster is a bit sloppy, paint sucks... i dropped a brake level while pulling it off and it scratched my frame like nothing. yeah this bike will be stickered up pretty soon.
havent taken it out yet, i've been tired lately and have a cold. whaaaah
should be interesting watching me ride after 8 yrs off. brakeless no doubt but im determined and i'll get it dialed again. this 36 yr old can still bust out! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/kevin4332/downsized_04020012112.jpg)
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well got the opsis delivered today. put it together. bars are rather wide. cut each side down an inch. took all the brakes off(pic shows with brakes on), tires say to only inflate to 65 psi.. dont think so. after about 85 i stopped though. all the while waiting for the pop!
this bike is pretty good for the money. looks nice. rear dropouts are a lil wimpy but whatever. freecoaster is a bit sloppy, paint sucks... i dropped a brake level while pulling it off and it scratched my frame like nothing. yeah this bike will be stickered up pretty soon.
havent taken it out yet, i've been tired lately and have a cold. whaaaah
should be interesting watching me ride after 8 yrs off. brakeless no doubt but im determined and i'll get it dialed again. this 36 yr old can still bust out! ([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/kevin4332/downsized_04020012112.jpg[/url])
Congratulations on the Opsis purchase...I too just got back into it and bought myself an Opsis in Pearl Grey.
As far as the the tires' PSI rating (45-65),don't worry about it dude,I've been running mine at 120 psi since early December '09.
How are you liking those stock bars?I had to remove mine as they felt really low so I bought a pair of bars with 8.125" of rise.
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updated pic with the brakes off and some different grips.
i threw the bike around yesterday. Havent ridden in like 7 yrs. did hang fives and some rolling tricks. bike is SO much lighter than other bikes i've ridden.
i grew up riding with brakes. I took these off and will diligently try my best to re-learn and learn tricks w/o them. gonna be hard.. lol
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/kevin4332/04040011462.jpg)
UPDATE
Well I can say the seat sucks .. Went riding. tried some cliff hangers and the seat moved. went home, tightened the guts and SNAP. the cheap bolt snapped right off.. Wonderful. time for a 1st upgrade on this bike. whats next..? stay tuned.
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I bent the seat post the first day, and snapped part of the plastic pedals in a week. Those will be your next two upgrades. But overall...I'm still riding the bike a year and half later. The cheap freecoaster as been surprisingly pleasant. I've tried different high end bars, and always go back to the Opsis bars...they just feel right to me.
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funny you said that. after wasting the seat guts, i just went and bought a new post with the clamp style design for the railed seat. pedals are good so far. the freecoaster has a ton of slip in it and for now i'm dealing with it. dont care for the cog/sprocket ratio. the front end of this bike is super super light. i catch myself pulling up to hard constantly.
suprisingly after nearly 10 yrs of not riding flat i can still get into hitchikers and some of the stuff that i left off at a decade ago.
its fun so far. riding brakeless is a challenge that im forcing myself to take on.
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Hey thanks 4 all the DKOpsis info.Ive been reading alot about this bike.Its just too good of a price 4 a flatbike.Ive always liked the Quamen but to custom built a bike now its just too much$$.Right now i just need a complete bike to get me around and to simply enjoy n ride flat.Maybe even some light street jumping.There's always upgrades to be made on any bike so its all good.Does anyone know when the 2011 Opsis is coming out? Thanks Again!!
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Thanks for the heads up bro, my KHe is sh*t and Im not wasting more time or money on it so I thinking about buying this or i think i might just buy a street bike since they dont suck balls and loose some weight....
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I got this bike 4 months ago, its a good bike. Although i'm a tall guy.. after 2 hours or so my back starts cramping up, i may want to get higher bars soon. I still haven't found where the best height is for the seat. I had it lower but then i raised it to practice half hikers, but now that i'm comfortable i may try lowering it again. I agree that the front is very light. When i first tried learning peg wheelies i was bringing it way too high.
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I agree that the front is very light. When i first tried learning peg wheelies i was bringing it way too high.
Yep,front end is light,back end is a bit heavy.
I am 6'0" tall and quickly switched out the tiny bars for some bars with 8"+ rise to them...considering some of Marcel's Barfly's in 8.5" - 9" but I think it might help me more with front wheel tricks like hang 5's etc. if I try to balance the weight of the bike out;lighten up the rear end some.
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new to the forum. just recently got captivated on riding flatland. did research. read A lot. learned myself on bmx cuz i'm relatively new to it. anyway. Really thinking about gettin' the Opsis 2010.
ive asked around everywhere but responses aren't as fast as i'd like and i wanna ride, Now hah.
BUT
as my first bmx bike for yeaarsss, i don't wanna be Limited to flatland if that makes any sense. i reaally wanna get into it. but i do wanna be able to cruise around my city and jump off little things and grind here and there. nothin extreme. but i Do wanna feel comfortable that i won't break my bike because its a pretty big investment for me money wise.
So.
how Far can i push an opsis doing street.. or not far, whatever the case
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new to the forum. just recently got captivated on riding flatland. did research. read A lot. learned myself on bmx cuz i'm relatively new to it. anyway. Really thinking about gettin' the Opsis 2010.
ive asked around everywhere but responses aren't as fast as i'd like and i wanna ride, Now hah.
BUT
as my first bmx bike for yeaarsss, i don't wanna be Limited to flatland if that makes any sense. i reaally wanna get into it. but i do wanna be able to cruise around my city and jump off little things and grind here and there. nothin extreme. but i Do wanna feel comfortable that i won't break my bike because its a pretty big investment for me money wise.
So.
how Far can i push an opsis doing street.. or not far, whatever the case
I wouldn't ride any street/park with the Opsis, or any flatland specific bike for that matter. they are built much differently. The geometry of a flatland frame/parts would probably not feel very natural jumping and grinding. The frames are built more for balance than to take heavy impact from jumping as opposed to a street or dirt frame. If you want to ride both you would probably want 2 bikes, or learn some flat on a street bike (which can be done.)
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I think that the Opsis(frame)can handle some street abuse.Its weight makes me believe this.Its not like the modern flatland frames(khe,stmartin,simple)that are 3,4lbs.light tubing that u can see wont withstand heavy street abuse.The wheels n freecoaster hubs on the Opsis(36)dont convince me for street abuse.All other parts r just standard.I had the HaroM6(18.75tt) and this bike i can Yes tell u was strong for both street n flat but a heavy.Another frame i had years ago was the Morales twin top tube and it was flatland specific by factory but it was heavy and thick and yes i believe it could take Heavy street abuse.But it was 18tt very short.The Opsis is 19tt so i believe its light street ridable.
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thank you for the input. as of now, for street. i'm just interested in doing 360's off the ground. and a goal is to wall ride tail whip and little things like that. As of now, i'm not too interested in doing stairs or big jumps or anything. basically i just wanna be able to cruise around and have fun on it without being scared of breakin it.
my fault for the noobness. i don't know the capabilities of flatland. but i know physics enough to know smaller lighter frames might not withstand poundings.
basically. i guess, whats the Most i can do on an opsis in terms of street within comfort.
i Really appreciate the help. Nooo body i know rides flatland. dont even know if anyone i know Knows about flatland. but i can't fight the urge to do it. but i do wanna be able ride around too. i'm also leanin on just pickin up a beater from craigslist to get my street fix if yall Really think the opsis can't. but i'd prefer not to spend the cash. i keep watchin videos, street n park is Impressive but i feel like i'd have more fun playin with flatland
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new to the forum. just recently got captivated on riding flatland. did research. read A lot. learned myself on bmx cuz i'm relatively new to it. anyway. Really thinking about gettin' the Opsis 2010.
ive asked around everywhere but responses aren't as fast as i'd like and i wanna ride, Now hah.
BUT
as my first bmx bike for yeaarsss, i don't wanna be Limited to flatland if that makes any sense. i reaally wanna get into it. but i do wanna be able to cruise around my city and jump off little things and grind here and there. nothin extreme. but i Do wanna feel comfortable that i won't break my bike because its a pretty big investment for me money wise.
So.
how Far can i push an opsis doing street.. or not far, whatever the case
I wouldn't ride any street/park with the Opsis, or any flatland specific bike for that matter. they are built much differently. The geometry of a flatland frame/parts would probably not feel very natural jumping and grinding. The frames are built more for balance than to take heavy impact from jumping as opposed to a street or dirt frame. If you want to ride both you would probably want 2 bikes, or learn some flat on a street bike (which can be done.)
I've ridden some street on my Opsis...and I come from a street background for the last 20 years. It held up fine. Nothing to burly...but I did do some stair gaps, about 8 or 9 stairs.
Riding a Strowler now, and it can handle some street abuse too.
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thank you for the input. as of now, for street. i'm just interested in doing 360's off the ground. and a goal is to wall ride tail whip and little things like that. As of now, i'm not too interested in doing stairs or big jumps or anything. basically i just wanna be able to cruise around and have fun on it without being scared of breakin it.
my fault for the noobness. i don't know the capabilities of flatland. but i know physics enough to know smaller lighter frames might not withstand poundings.
basically. i guess, whats the Most i can do on an opsis in terms of street within comfort.
i Really appreciate the help. Nooo body i know rides flatland. dont even know if anyone i know Knows about flatland. but i can't fight the urge to do it. but i do wanna be able ride around too. i'm also leanin on just pickin up a beater from craigslist to get my street fix if yall Really think the opsis can't. but i'd prefer not to spend the cash. i keep watchin videos, street n park is Impressive but i feel like i'd have more fun playin with flatland
I've ridden street on my Opsis...held up pretty good. Nothing to burly, but yeah...if you like the way it feels, ride street on it too!
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I like the Opsis.
(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/Hatebreeder_2009/DSC06438.jpg)
If your in the market for one....hurry and go to Danscomp....add one to your cart.....at the checkout there is a box that says "apply code"..........in the box type.....41d5....BAM 20% off the Opsis!!! 288.94 shipped to your door....how can you beat that deal. Not too sure how long the code will lasts but it worked right now.
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Thank you all! appreciate it. could i do like big bunny hops at least on it without being scared?
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One of my friends got an Opsis, and I never thought of DK much when it comes to flatland but I gave it a try and was pleasantly surprised. This is a lot of bike for the price tag! Although the freecoaster that comes stock on this bike is cheap and has a questionable rep, I really wouldn't be afraid of it. Only thing we didn't much care for was the stock brake pads (replaced with Kool Stop Eagle Claw 2 pads) which work great with the brake setup.
Overall I would recommend this bike to anyone looking for an affordable flat ride - especially someone new to flat.
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I copped a opsis as my first bike ... ive been riding pretty hard and have no complaints
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ive got a dk signal for sale PM me if you're interested!
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One of my friends got an Opsis, and I never thought of DK much when it comes to flatland but I gave it a try and was pleasantly surprised. This is a lot of bike for the price tag! Although the freecoaster that comes stock on this bike is cheap and has a questionable rep, I really wouldn't be afraid of it. Only thing we didn't much care for was the stock brake pads (replaced with Kool Stop Eagle Claw 2 pads) which work great with the brake setup.
Overall I would recommend this bike to anyone looking for an affordable flat ride - especially someone new to flat.
My freecoaster on the Opsis is still going strong a year and a half later! The key is greasing it properly.
Oh, and the brake pads are still good...I can promise you that they stop on a dime.
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I would like DK to make the 2011 frame with more scuff room.Add some style to it.Im sure their sales of the signal and opsis was not bad.
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I'm having real trouble with my opsis I can't find the F***ing barrel adjuster for my front brakes anywhere! does anyone know what packet they came in? I have a hunch that they came in the packet for the reflectors that go on the seatpost. I need to set up my front brakes soon cos I need to learn the squeaker
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Are you serious Paddymcg?!
The bike comes like 70% built,all that's left for you to do is slap the bars on the stem,connect your front brake cable to the front brake,slap the seat and seat post in,take of wheels to place pegs on....remove reflectors and chain guard,and slap the pedlas on the crank...after that is brake adjustment.
You'll find one of the front brakes barrel adjusters on the front brake lever where the cable enters the lever,the other is should be on the front brake it self.
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I have the bike fully built and the rear brakes fully adjusted. My bike didn't come with a barrel adjuster on the front brake so I haven't set up my front brakes. I tried taking the barrel adjuster of one of my other bikes but they were all way too big. Are you sure that the barrel adjuster already came on the bike??? :angry:
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I'm sure of it.Mine did,and I'm sure everyone else's did too.
Look on the brake lever fro the front brake...it's there.Also look at the front brake it self,there's one on it as well.
I'd take pics,but my camera is dead.
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Yeah there's one on my brake lever but none on my front brake I'm sure of it! I tried taking one of my gyro and back brake but they won't come off unless I cut the cable. :angry:
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If there is no barrel adjuster on the brake itself then how did you connect your front brake cable?!
Do me a favor....go take a picture of your front brake and a picture of your front brake lever.
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umm I don't get what you mean. Here look... (sorry about the quality I had to resize them cos they were too big)
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Well then...that's f*cked up...do you still have the box the bike came in...start diggin'.
Who did you order from?
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I've torn that box to shreds looking for it... literally :P
I'll have a good root around my room for it tomorrow and if it's not there I'll go to my local bike shop and ask if they have any.
I got it of a site called www.odysseybmxparts.com (http://www.odysseybmxparts.com) it was the only site I could find that shipped to Ireland. (They have a way bigger selection than flatlandfuel and offer free shipping on loads of products although some products are more expensive)
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hey guys new to the forums just got a opsis in green on monday and love it...
i was practicing on a old haro over weekend as i just started flat.
really like the bike super light for me anyway, i can sorta do trackstands and fork glides i can spin glide in a circle for abit then bail just aint got the balance i use to.
anyway keep up the riding
cheers T
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Still interested in this bmx, but might hang on for next years if they make one! :ph34r:
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I just got a DK Opsis 2010. I put it together myself. I am only having a couple issues. On the back wheel there is a cone shaped piece of soft rubber on the left side of the hub. It is rubbing against the hub and making a squeaking sound. Is this part supposed to spin with the wheel or stay stationary? I'm guessing it should spin with the wheel. Is it an essential part(Can I take it off)? Or should I do something to keep it spinning? Also the freewheel seems to let the crank and chain go forward about an inch before it catches. I have heard that it is not a good freewheel, but can this be optimized at all?
Let me know if you've had this same problem or have any suggestions.
Thanks
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Just got my opsis today! Not bad for 300 bucks! Didn't like the tires so I swapped them out
for some suelo tires. Can't wait to ride tomorrow. I am 35 and just getting back into flatland.
here's a cell phone pic:
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm120/booism1023/bike.jpg)
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I just got a DK Opsis 2010. I put it together myself. I am only having a couple issues. On the back wheel there is a cone shaped piece of soft rubber on the left side of the hub. It is rubbing against the hub and making a squeaking sound. Is this part supposed to spin with the wheel or stay stationary? I'm guessing it should spin with the wheel. Is it an essential part(Can I take it off)? Or should I do something to keep it spinning? Also the freewheel seems to let the crank and chain go forward about an inch before it catches. I have heard that it is not a good freewheel, but can this be optimized at all?
Let me know if you've had this same problem or have any suggestions.
Thanks
That rubber thing is not needed at all. mine was squeaking and slowing down my tire so I just took it off. It won't affect your bike in any way if you take it off I think it's a dust cover or something.
As for the hub that is easily fixable just look it up on google but the slack is not really bad for your hub.
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Just got my opsis today! Not bad for 300 bucks! Didn't like the tires so I swapped them out
for some suelo tires. Can't wait to ride tomorrow. I am 35 and just getting back into flatland.
here's a cell phone pic:
([url]http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm120/booism1023/bike.jpg[/url])
Damn! The bike looks delicious with those tires on there.
Throw a white KHE Watanabe seat and some white pedals on there
and I'll need to change my pants.
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I just got a DK Opsis 2010. I put it together myself. I am only having a couple issues. On the back wheel there is a cone shaped piece of soft rubber on the left side of the hub. It is rubbing against the hub and making a squeaking sound. Is this part supposed to spin with the wheel or stay stationary? I'm guessing it should spin with the wheel. Is it an essential part(Can I take it off)? Or should I do something to keep it spinning? Also the freewheel seems to let the crank and chain go forward about an inch before it catches. I have heard that it is not a good freewheel, but can this be optimized at all?
Let me know if you've had this same problem or have any suggestions.
Thanks
That rubber thing is not needed at all. mine was squeaking and slowing down my tire so I just took it off. It won't affect your bike in any way if you take it off I think it's a dust cover or something.
As for the hub that is easily fixable just look it up on google but the slack is not really bad for your hub.
do you have a link on how to fix the hub? i have an opsis and i hate that slack. it wont be for a couple of months til i can buy a new wheelset
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Just got my opsis today! Not bad for 300 bucks! Didn't like the tires so I swapped them out
for some suelo tires. Can't wait to ride tomorrow. I am 35 and just getting back into flatland.
here's a cell phone pic:
([url]http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm120/booism1023/bike.jpg[/url])
Damn! The bike looks delicious with those tires on there.
Throw a white KHE Watanabe seat and some white pedals on there
and I'll need to change my pants.
Thanks man! I was pretty happy with the way it looked when I put the tires on! But, I was definitely already looking into the white pedals, probably just go with some twisted pcs, cause the stock pedals are not going to last very long from the looks of it!
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Does anyone know if the St. Martin English Sprocket will fit on the stock opsis cranks if i order the 24tooth? http://www.flatlandfuel.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1373 (http://www.flatlandfuel.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1373)
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I really want this bike so badly !!!!!!!!!!!! Should i wait for next version or should i get it? And in what part of the year do they make the new bikes?
Also, does anyone know of any sites where i can get this cheapest? Im thinking about ordering it right now but i just wanna make sure i get it from the cheapest site and free shipping if possible.
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I really want this bike so badly !!!!!!!!!!!! Should i wait for next version or should i get it? And in what part of the year do they make the new bikes?
Also, does anyone know of any sites where i can get this cheapest? Im thinking about ordering it right now but i just wanna make sure i get it from the cheapest site and free shipping if possible.
this version is awesome, can't really imagine next years version can be much better/different. Order it from danscomp and use the promo code 41d5 and you'll
get the bike for 288.94 including shipping!
which is like a sore d**k ( you can't beat it)
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I really want this bike so badly !!!!!!!!!!!! Should i wait for next version or should i get it? And in what part of the year do they make the new bikes?
Also, does anyone know of any sites where i can get this cheapest? Im thinking about ordering it right now but i just wanna make sure i get it from the cheapest site and free shipping if possible.
this version is awesome, can't really imagine next years version can be much better/different. Order it from danscomp and use the promo code 41d5 and you'll
get the bike for 288.94 including shipping!
which is like a sore d**k ( you can't beat it)
I heard that sites credits were being jacked. Is that true by any chance?
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danscomp has been having some problems. It may have been cleared up by now. I think im going to buy the Opsis's frame from someone
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danscomp has been having some problems. It may have been cleared up by now. I think im going to buy the Opsis's frame from someone
;l to late.. ive already purchased it from there. I just hope it isnt true.
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No it was true. Lets just hope that they got the issue resolved
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No it was true. Lets just hope that they got the issue resolved
ugh... thats going to suck having a bad experience like this with my 1st bike. Do you know how long ago this was?
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I purchased mine through danscomp 2 weeks ago and have been monitoring
my credit card account and no problems yet. I bought the bike before I saw the thread
about people having those problems with danscomp, It's been posted on another forum
as well, I'm sure danscomp has adressed the issue. About the bike though, It's the best bike
for flat you can get for that price(and probably the only one). good luck with your purchase!
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so im guessing that nobody knows if the 24 tooth St. Martin English Srocket will work with the stock opsis cranks?
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so im guessing that nobody knows if the 24 tooth St. Martin English Srocket will work with the stock opsis cranks?
I think it'll work bro because i upgraded to a 9T hub and a 23T sprocket. Pat from flatlandfuel says i can use a 23T to 25T on the opsis cranks
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I think it'll work bro because i upgraded to a 9T hub and a 23T sprocket. Pat from flatlandfuel says i can use a 23T to 25T on the opsis cranks
Thanks a lot. i also upgraded to a 9t hub and I'm now planning to go down a few teeth on the sprocket. i'll post a pic of my bike when I'm done. That white one looks real nice. Kinda makes me wish i didn't get the gray
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I think it'll work bro because i upgraded to a 9T hub and a 23T sprocket. Pat from flatlandfuel says i can use a 23T to 25T on the opsis cranks
Thanks a lot. i also upgraded to a 9t hub and I'm now planning to go down a few teeth on the sprocket. i'll post a pic of my bike when I'm done. That white one looks real nice. Kinda makes me wish i didn't get the gray
no problem. haha i know, i wish i couldve gotten the white one also.
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w000t my opsis just got here and im happier then i had expected. Sucks tho cuz now i have to go to walmart later on and buy me a sh*t load of expensive tools... sigh....
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I ran a 20/9 on my Opsis with different cranks.
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Can someone help me with my back tire? Well i just got my bike and im trying to add on the pegs it came with but i cant manage to take off the lugs. Call me a pussy or w/e but i dont have enough strengt to remove them so im starting to think im doing something wrong. Righty tighty lefty loosy still applys to the lugs at the back tire right? Im growing fustrated lol and hoping someone can help me. I wanna ride this damn thing already but i cant.
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Can someone help me with my back tire? Well i just got my bike and im trying to add on the pegs it came with but i cant manage to take off the lugs. Call me a pussy or w/e but i dont have enough strengt to remove them so im starting to think im doing something wrong. Righty tighty lefty loosy still applys to the lugs at the back tire right? Im growing fustrated lol and hoping someone can help me. I wanna ride this damn thing already but i cant.
You got the righty tighty, lefty loosey part correct. I think you just need to get a rachet with a longer handle to give you a lil more torque. or you could always set up the rachet to loosen, then take a rubber mallet to the rachet (caveman style :D)
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Can someone help me with my back tire? Well i just got my bike and im trying to add on the pegs it came with but i cant manage to take off the lugs. Call me a pussy or w/e but i dont have enough strengt to remove them so im starting to think im doing something wrong. Righty tighty lefty loosy still applys to the lugs at the back tire right? Im growing fustrated lol and hoping someone can help me. I wanna ride this damn thing already but i cant.
You got the righty tighty, lefty loosey part correct. I think you just need to get a rachet with a longer handle to give you a lil more torque. or you could always set up the rachet to loosen, then take a rubber mallet to the rachet (caveman style :D)
i got it but thnx ill keep that in mind. I hurt my hand and wrist a bit but at least i can ride my bike now lol.
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so im guessing that nobody knows if the 24 tooth St. Martin English Srocket will work with the stock opsis cranks?
I think it'll work bro because i upgraded to a 9T hub and a 23T sprocket. Pat from flatlandfuel says i can use a 23T to 25T on the opsis cranks
I asked Pat from FF about this very thing just the other week...You can fit a standard drive 22t sprocket on the stock 2010 Opsis cranks but it has to be a standard drive 22t sprocket,can't be a 22t micro sprocket.
I asked which ones on FF would work and he said the Animal Sprocky Balboa would work fine
http://www.flatlandfuel.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1075 (http://www.flatlandfuel.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1075)
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thanks for all the help guys. i had ordered the St. Martin English Sprocket about 2 days ago. Did he say that the animal sprocky balboa was the ONLY one that would fit? or was it more of a recommendation? I wouldnt mind modifying the St. Martin to fit, i just want to know what to expect when it arrives
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Generally speaking any sprocket 23t and up will fit on any crank arm...you don't get into micro and nano gearing untill you get to 22t and below but some companies make 22t standard drive sprockets...The Animal Sprocky Balboa is a 22t standard drive sprocket so it will fit on the stock 2010 Opsis cranks...if you bought a 22t micro or nano drive sprocket it would not fit on the stock 2010 Opsis cranks.
The actual message Pat from FF sent me
"22T standard drive is the smallest you can go. (beware that some 22T are micro drive)."
And then I asked him about some of the sprockets on FF...
"Quote from: Scuffy on June 11, 2010, 03:24:30 AM
Thanks,I wasn't aware that some 22t sprockets were micro drive.
Could you tell me some 22t sprockets that you sell that will work with my stock Opsis cranks?
What about the 22t Animal Sprocky Balboa sprocket?
23t Quamen Stylez "S"?
A 23t Shadow Lighter sprocket?"
And he replied with this to say...
"all of those will work. Also check out the Nice brand sprocket. Sometimes with 22s your chain may rub the sprocket bolt a tiny bit. If that happens you just have to grind or dremel the outside of the bolt a little."
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Generally speaking any sprocket 23t and up will fit on any crank arm...you don't get into micro and nano gearing untill you get to 22t and below but some companies make 22t standard drive sprockets...The Animal Sprocky Balboa is a 22t standard drive sprocket so it will fit on the stock 2010 Opsis cranks...if you bought a 22t micro or nano drive sprocket it would not fit on the stock 2010 Opsis cranks.
The actual message Pat from FF sent me
"22T standard drive is the smallest you can go. (beware that some 22T are micro drive)."
And then I asked him about some of the sprockets on FF...
"Quote from: Scuffy on June 11, 2010, 03:24:30 AM
Thanks,I wasn't aware that some 22t sprockets were micro drive.
Could you tell me some 22t sprockets that you sell that will work with my stock Opsis cranks?
What about the 22t Animal Sprocky Balboa sprocket?
23t Quamen Stylez "S"?
A 23t Shadow Lighter sprocket?"
And he replied with this to say...
"all of those will work. Also check out the Nice brand sprocket. Sometimes with 22s your chain may rub the sprocket bolt a tiny bit. If that happens you just have to grind or dremel the outside of the bolt a little."
Good to know.
So my package came a lot earlier than i expected (not that I'm complaining) lol. and the sprocket went on just fine. I wish i could say the same for my chain but thats another story. lol
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What's wrong with the chain...too long now lol.
Just get a chain breaker tool and take a few links out.When my Taska freecoaster that came stock on my 2010 DK Opsis crapped out on me I upgraded to a KHE Geisha Light freecoaster laced to a KHE Big V rim.This took me from a 28t sprocket and a 12t driver to a 28t sprocket and a 9t driver so from a 2:1 gear ratio to a 3.11:1 gear ratio.All I had to do was remove 2-3 links from my stock chain and it fits perfect...depending on how short or long you need the chain you may need a half link but I think you'll be able to get away with out one like I did.
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What's wrong with the chain...too long now lol.
Just get a chain breaker tool and take a few links out.When my Taska freecoaster that came stock on my 2010 DK Opsis crapped out on me I upgraded to a KHE Geisha Light freecoaster laced to a KHE Big V rim.This took me from a 28t sprocket and a 12t driver to a 28t sprocket and a 9t driver so from a 2:1 gear ratio to a 3.11:1 gear ratio.All I had to do was remove 2-3 links from my stock chain and it fits perfect...depending on how short or long you need the chain you may need a half link but I think you'll be able to get away with out one like I did.
I ordered the Yaban Half link chain from FlatlandFuel. I didnt know that the pins were mushroomed at the ends until my chain broke my chain breaker (theres a joke in there somewhere). And this was at around 1:00 in the morning since I had just come home from work and I didn't feel like waiting until the next day to go buy another chain breaker. So i ended up using a grinder, vice, chain breaker pin, and an old axle nut, but I shortened it and finally got it on my bike. Anyways, heres the pictures
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b432/thedilanger/DSCN0024.jpg)
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b432/thedilanger/DSCN0023.jpg)
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b432/thedilanger/DSCN0022.jpg)
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Anyone know which chain tensioners i should use for the opsis? Or how i can figure out which ones are compatible with the bike.
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Anyone know which chain tensioners i should use for the opsis? Or how i can figure out which ones are compatible with the bike.
I just use an old brake shoe spacer. I wedge it in between the dropout and the axle. works great, doesn't weigh much and best of all, its free. You don't HAVE to use a brake shoe spacer, just use whatever fits
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Anyone know which chain tensioners i should use for the opsis? Or how i can figure out which ones are compatible with the bike.
I just use an old brake shoe spacer. I wedge it in between the dropout and the axle. works great, doesn't weigh much and best of all, its free. You don't HAVE to use a brake shoe spacer, just use whatever fits
This!
Chain tensioners are a total waste of time, I spent forever trying to get them to work, they broke most of time time, just put a wrench in the middle, pull it back, and tighten, works perfect everytime.
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my new babe:
(http://cA6.upanh.com/12.456.16687798.OOP0/DSC00206.jpg)
(http://cA7.upanh.com/12.456.16687799.XOZ0/DSC00207.jpg)
(http://cA5.upanh.com/12.456.16687801.KUX0/DSC00212.jpg)
(http://cA6.upanh.com/12.456.16687802.OYL0/DSC00227.jpg)
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Just found this on youtube - a sneak preview of the 2011 model
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OISFPwvnVOI[/youtube]
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Hey guys, i'm knew here.
I'm trying to get into Flatland, and have been for atleast a year now, never really made the move though, so this is the time.
I'm looking to go for this bike http://www.flatlandfuel.com/index.asp?pageaction=VIEWPROD&PRODID=1590 (http://www.flatlandfuel.com/index.asp?pageaction=VIEWPROD&PRODID=1590)
As I live in Ireland, i'm not sure if they deliver here (Anybody know?) and if they do, wouldn't it be quite heavy on the shipping fee? If they don't deliver here, does anybody know any place that does?
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Hey guys, i'm knew here.
I'm trying to get into Flatland, and have been for atleast a year now, never really made the move though, so this is the time.
I'm looking to go for this bike [url]http://www.flatlandfuel.com/index.asp?pageaction=VIEWPROD&PRODID=1590[/url] ([url]http://www.flatlandfuel.com/index.asp?pageaction=VIEWPROD&PRODID=1590[/url])
As I live in Ireland, i'm not sure if they deliver here (Anybody know?) and if they do, wouldn't it be quite heavy on the shipping fee? If they don't deliver here, does anybody know any place that does?
Welcome skylark. Flatland Fuel has a shipping page with some basic rates but you might want to PM Patrick and see what is possible for shipping. I ride the same bike, so far no complaints other than the brake pads and grips. Good luck :D
Flatlandfuel shipping page: http://www.flatlandfuel.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=1 (http://www.flatlandfuel.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=1)
PM Patrick: PSchoolen
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Hey guys, i'm knew here.
I'm trying to get into Flatland, and have been for atleast a year now, never really made the move though, so this is the time.
I'm looking to go for this bike [url]http://www.flatlandfuel.com/index.asp?pageaction=VIEWPROD&PRODID=1590[/url] ([url]http://www.flatlandfuel.com/index.asp?pageaction=VIEWPROD&PRODID=1590[/url])
As I live in Ireland, i'm not sure if they deliver here (Anybody know?) and if they do, wouldn't it be quite heavy on the shipping fee? If they don't deliver here, does anybody know any place that does?
Welcome skylark. Flatland Fuel has a shipping page with some basic rates but you might want to PM Patrick and see what is possible for shipping. I ride the same bike, so far no complaints other than the brake pads and grips. Good luck :D
Flatlandfuel shipping page: [url]http://www.flatlandfuel.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=1[/url] ([url]http://www.flatlandfuel.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=1[/url])
PM Patrick: PSchoolen
Thank you very much for your help and the nice welcoming. -_-
It seems a good bike for beginners and in price range for most. Hopefully all goes well with it if I do finally get it.
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anyone help me :(?? i bought a DK opsis 2010 and the brake was working fine. now i change my fork in to a tanaka LT and the brake works, but the pad seems like cannot stop the rim at all.still the same pad and the same rim. the spring was perfect and the brake lever feels right but why doesnt it work :( help me plzzz
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dang that's weird about your brakes man -maybe the cable is having trouble in the new fork?
On that video back there -hahahaha is that huffman in the background??
One question... Anyone have a specs breakdown for the 2011 like the breakdown for the 2010 at the beginning of this thread? I'd love to know the new weights of parts for the 2011. I had thought about getting a 2010 and replacing the seat and post for lighter parts but maybe this new 2011 is worth waiting for -also are those new tires or the same as the 2010?
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What parts on the Opsis would you immediately switch out for lighter ones? I may be putting this on a different frame but also would like to get light in a smart way i.e. budget minded. Would it be worth going crazy with a hollow titanium crank spindle? Would the opsis cranks even work on a ti spindle? lol
I've already got planned to get a lighter seat and maybe even a sprocket but just wondered opinions before I make the move
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What parts on the Opsis would you immediately switch out for lighter ones? I may be putting this on a different frame but also would like to get light in a smart way i.e. budget minded. Would it be worth going crazy with a hollow titanium crank spindle? Would the opsis cranks even work on a ti spindle? lol
I've already got planned to get a lighter seat and maybe even a sprocket but just wondered opinions before I make the move
It used to be that there were several parts on the DK entry-level flat bikes that could be replaced for pretty big weight savings. At one time, they came with metal platform pedals and switching out to plastic would help a lot. They also used to have the big, heavy padded seats and steel seat posts.
The thing is, over the years, DK has upgraded the bike with better/lighter parts. Back when I bought my signal, they were almost 32 pounds out of the box. Now they are advertised about 3 lbs. lighter.
Personally, the only thing I'd want to change out of the box on the new Opsis's are the bars. Something with a lower or curved cross bar made from chromoly. Most of the other parts seem to be well thought out and should last a decent amount of time unless you are REALLY hard on parts, even though they are "budget" quality. This on top of the fact that the bike doesn't look cheap either. Especially the newer models that have come in some really classy color combos and slick graphics. I really like the 2011's as well.
If you are absolutely determined to save some weight, even though the bike isn't really "heavy" in comparison to most BMX-style bikes, the most "bang for buck" might be switching the tires out for some Frequency G's (if you like that tire). Given that the bike is marketed to those on a budget, you probably aren't going to get a lot more in weight savings unless you start spending a lot more for pricey ultra-light parts more geared to seasoned riders who can afford to break things more often ^_^. Personally, I don't think that the difference is really going to be worth the cost. There's nothing really wrong with the bike, or it's weight out of the box, so if it ain't broke.....
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Also, it looks like the 2011's might come with some kind of Pivotal seat. There's some additional weight savings.
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does any1 know the wieght of a dk opsis frame? thanks
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5lb 10.8oz
All the specs are on page 1 of this thread ;)
Ima do me some part switching as soon as I get mine ^^ can't wait
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I'm looking at getting a 23t sprocket but would like to go down to 9t on the back -do I need a whole new hub or can I just get a 9t driver for the stock hob on the Opsis? I'm just not sure how to go about searching for the part. Thanks!
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I'm looking at getting a 23t sprocket but would like to go down to 9t on the back -do I need a whole new hub or can I just get a 9t driver for the stock hob on the Opsis? I'm just not sure how to go about searching for the part. Thanks!
New hub...stock one sucks anyways,mine broke after 6-7 months and I replaced it with a KHE Geisha Light freecoaster.
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5lb 10.8oz
All the specs are on page 1 of this thread ;)
Ima do me some part switching as soon as I get mine ^^ can't wait
The 5lb 10.8 oz. is the weight of the older "Signal," which is similar to the "Opsis" but not entirely the same. It appears to me that the newer "Opsis" frames have a little less girth to them and may weigh less. We've yet to have anyone take an Opsis apart and weight one, but I'm guessing it would be lighter than the Signal.
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I'm looking at getting a 23t sprocket but would like to go down to 9t on the back -do I need a whole new hub or can I just get a 9t driver for the stock hob on the Opsis? I'm just not sure how to go about searching for the part. Thanks!
At one time I believe that you could change out the driver from the Taska hub with one they made for another more expensive Taska freecoaster, but I believe you had to jump through some pretty high hoops to get one. I'm not sure if they are available anymore anyways.
I've had mine for about 4 years now I think. I keep mine maintained and I haven't had a problem.
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hey yall quick one here i am 6 foot and 225LB's 32' inseam what is the best size frame or bike for my size and weight ?
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Does the DK stem have any built in gyro tabs or any of that? I'm going to replace the stem when I get an Opsis and wondered if I need to order and gyro stuff along with it.
Thanks!
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Does the DK stem have any built in gyro tabs or any of that? I'm going to replace the stem when I get an Opsis and wondered if I need to order and gyro stuff along with it.
Thanks!
The Opsis comes with removeable gyro tabs,a gyro plate that connects to the stem but is a seperate part..you're fine.
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thanks man!
Oh I ordered mine last night and it will get here in a couple days -I've got the scale ready to go and I'll weight it all part by part to update the list
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thanks man!
Oh I ordered mine last night and it will get here in a couple days -I've got the scale ready to go and I'll weight it all part by part to update the list
In order to weigh it part by part you're going to have to do some disassembling as the bike comes 70% built up,all there is for you to do is place the front and back wheel on,the pegs,and put the bars on and hook the brakes up.
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In order to weigh it part by part you're going to have to do some disassembling as the bike comes 70% built up
Oh that's no problem at all -I'll be taking the whole thing apart to switch out the frame any ways. I've heard tell I need to "grease the hell out of" the freecoaster as well -wondering if I should go with full washers or take one out to begin with hmm haven't ever rode a freecoaster yet!
Hahah I was wondering if it would be Kosher after I was finished to post a pic but I guess technically it won't be an Opsis afterward =p
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Just got the new DansComp catalog in the mail,man the new Opsis is lookin' sweet in black w/red rims.
Seems they made a slight change too in the cranks department.Instead of coming with 165mm cranks the new 2011 Opsis comes with 160mm cranks and it looks like they changed the seat.
It's weird though that they have all the new 2011 stuff in their catalog yet they don't have it on their website yet.
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red rims?? painted or anodized?
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Red Alienation PBR's.
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Just got my 2010 Opsis last night -Frikkin fantastic for the price. It's pretty cool how they put some thought into it -cutting corners here and there to make it cheap but retaining alot of the real flatland flavor. I highly recommend it for anyone starting out. Very upgradable parts and a few are of decent quality at that. The sprocket is solid stamped steel btw -I thought for sure it would be solid 5mm aluminum hahah -and there are some plastic washers on the bottom bracket, the bar ends are virtually useless -some stuff like that but man, it's really well thought out.
I did a complete break down since I am switching frames and a bunch of parts. Weighed some parts in sets and individually -tried to be smart about it, like if you are planning to replace stuff or go with front or rear brakes only or... yada yada
If any one needs a photo of anything specific, please let me know.
anyways, here goes...
frame (no gyro tabs) 2407g
forks 1295g
bars 788g
front wheel 947g
rear wheel 1425g
(complete -rims, spokes, hub, axle/nuts)
innertubes (both) 266g (x1 133g)
tires (both) 1254g (x1 628g)
cranks 1114g (arms 824g, spindle 290g)
bottom bracket w/ washers 164g
sprocket (steel with adapter) 184g
pedals (both- with reflectors 360g, w/o 346g)
chain 235g
stem 305g
headset 72g
cap 31g
headset spacers 8g
grips (both) 109g
bar ends (both) 3g
seat with assy. 469g
seat post 150g
seat post clamp 28g
pegs (four) 462g (x1 116g)
brakes (one set, no pads) 130g
brake pads (one set) 57g
rear cables w/ hanger 156g
front cable 56g
lever (one) 73g
gyro, plate and tabs 100g
chain guard and all reflectors 203g
13111g =28.5 lbs
Thanks to all the supportive riders here for their experience and encouragement to help me make this decision and get back into riding again!
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Looks like they've shed about half a pound between the Signal and Opsis in the frame alone.
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new DK OPSIS 2011 info from ACEbmx.com :ph34r:
(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/1580/dkopsiswhite.jpg)
Frame: 4130 Chromoly Main Frame W/ Removable Gyro Tabs
Fork: 4130 Chromoly W/ 990 Mounts
Handlebars: DK Flatland 2-cc Bars
Grips: DK Tuska
Stem: 32mm Reach Front Load Alloy
Headset: Integrated Sealed 1-1/8"
Detangler: Driving Force
Brake Levers: Tektro
Brakes: Tektro Alloy U-Brakes F/R
Cranks: Tubular 3-pc 165mm Chromoly
Spindle: 8 Splined Chromoly
BB Type: Sealed Mid
Pedals: Plastic Platform
Sprocket: 28t
Cog: 14t Freecoaster W/ 10mm Axles
Chain: KMC
Rims: Alienation PBR
Hubs: Alloy Freecoaster W/ 10mm Axles
Seat: DK W/ 7mm Rails
Seatpost :Extra Long Alloy 25.4mm
Tires: Kenda Street Design
Accessories: 4 Aluminum Flatland Pegs
Not much difference. the info is wrong at the seat. it must be a pivotal seat and post. No info about the weight. may be not much different from the 2010 version based on the info
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http://www.danscomp.com/101278.php?cat=BIKES# (http://www.danscomp.com/101278.php?cat=BIKES#)
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looks almost like an Ody Senior seat
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something cool -the current 2010 Opsis came with 14t cog and 28t sprocket but what's awesome is FlatlandFuel has a replacement 12t cog (I got a 24t St. Martin English while I was at it -ends up being same ratio... 2.0)
You'd need to crank down really hard on a big bench vise to hold the driver in place while banging on the 14t cog (I used my ratchet socket extender and a hammer) I was afraid I'd destroy the gearing or chrome but there's not a scratch to be seen. Overall it's pretty nice with the new set up and was worth the work.
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2011's just came out, lowering the price of the 2010's to 249, and with dans 20% (41m1) promo you can get it for 224 shipped!
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The Dans Comp dealm is off unless anyone else knows of discount codes?
Amazon has them for $229, shipped.
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What size is the crank spindle for the 2010'model? 19 or 22mm?
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What size is the crank spindle for the 2010'model? 19 or 22mm?
100% 19mm.
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Thanks HB.
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damn dude the opsis is pretty sweet -still super glad I got one -helped get me back into riding. It's cool 'cuz you can upgrade the hell out of it since it's not a cheap ass walmart bike and... well it's already the basic geometry for flatland right out of the box anyways. My rear hub finally died so I now join the club of people who say "you'll want to change the hub out" -it served me well for about 6 months but it was time to move on.
Just posting this in hopes of tipping the scales for anyone who's on the fence about learning to ride and the price of bikes. Just do it... you can switch parts out for more rad stuff as you go -you'll be glad you did.
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Well it's been a good year since I bought my Opsis and decided to take it apart last night for some maintenance.I didn't do the hubs or cranks though.Just thought I'd throw it out there for those that didn't/don't know but the forks steerer tube length is 165mm.
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hey any one knows where i can get a 9t cog replacement for my dk opsis 2010 the hub is a Alloy freecoaster w/ 14T cog and 14mm axle.
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Noob! Hope you're doing well man -still hoping to meet you at the school sometime!
Flatland fuel has a 12t cog that will fit on your taska coaster -i think it's like ten or fifteen bucks.
Warning: taking the old one off requires a serious shop vice and a hammer. I put the taska driver in and cranked down real hard on it and used a ratchet bit extension with a hammer to bang the crap out of it and turn the old cog off the driver -you'll have to turn it in the opposite direction you pedal.
Come to think of it -my Taska hub died and I bought a nicer hub off Huffman -I have a 12t cog I could give you. Maybe we could meet up at the school and I'll bring the tools -but we'll need a big vice. The one I used is at work so I couldn't borrow that lol
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hey, guys. some advice needed. which batch of parts would you upgrade first? based on the comments here, i guess one of the first would be the freecoaster? :)
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hey, guys. some advice needed. which batch of parts would you upgrade first? based on the comments here, i guess one of the first would be the freecoaster? :)
I'd definitely recommend getting a new freecoaster but you might get lucky with it for a while -mine lasted a good six months. If you want to save on weight I'd say the sprocket would be next to go as this one is solid steel. The brakes are a bit cheap but they work pretty well, the stem weighs a bit too (but it's a decent quality one) ...over all it's actually a fairly rockin' ride.
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thanks, scapegoat! six months is not bad. that gives me time to save up for a nankai. :ph34r: how's the front hub and pegs?
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The pegs aren't quite as nice as Colony or Suelo but they are a bit lighter -I actually kept mine on and will ride them to nubs hahah I went the super light route though since I'm a short, light guy (my last ride was an old 33lb Dyno with a monster wheel base) I switched out the seat and post for an Ody Senior pivotal and got some light Primo Comet tires too. One more thing you may consider is a chain tensioner or two since the Opsis does not come with them -super handy gadgets ;)
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I was checking flatlandfuel for cool stuff for my Opsis, thought I'd add a little color while shaving some weight. I got curious and looked through chains. Am I missing something? All the chains I saw were heavier than the stock 2010 chain, and some are "Light" or "super Light."
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The chains you buy from Flatland Fuel are most likely full length incase you have a nice dinner plate sized 44t sprocket and a 16t freewheel lol so when you take all those unnecessary links of they will actually weigh less.
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The pegs aren't quite as nice as Colony or Suelo but they are a bit lighter -I actually kept mine on and will ride them to nubs hahah I went the super light route though since I'm a short, light guy (my last ride was an old 33lb Dyno with a monster wheel base) I switched out the seat and post for an Ody Senior pivotal and got some light Primo Comet tires too. One more thing you may consider is a chain tensioner or two since the Opsis does not come with them -super handy gadgets ;)
Awesome! Thanks. :beer:
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I need one last favor, guys. Can anyone be so kind as to measure the box it comes in? (L, W, H)
I'm having it sent to a forwarding company, and they need to know the box dimensions before sending me a shipping quote.
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shoot an email off to the place you are buying it -if they don't answer back today, I'll let you know the dimensions when I get home from work.
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I need one last favor, guys. Can anyone be so kind as to measure the box it comes in? (L, W, H)
8.5 x 22.5 x 43.5 -not sure if you need to round up or any of that jive
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I need one last favor, guys. Can anyone be so kind as to measure the box it comes in? (L, W, H)
8.5 x 22.5 x 43.5 -not sure if you need to round up or any of that jive
Thanks a heap, dude! I actually sent an email to a seller, but they haven't gotten back to me, so this is cool. Cheers!
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Do all of the Animal Sprocky Balboas fit the Opsis crank? I noticed that Empire Bmx has this sprocket in other sizes, rather than the one at FF. I am interested in replacing the steel sprocket with aluminum but want don't want the smaller gear up front since I am street riding as well and like to get speed up. I am just unsure if the outer ring/teeth is the only difference.
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I imagine as long as it is not microdrive it should work fine. Some of the 24t and smaller ones may require filing the bolt I've heard. You might be able to find a thread on the forum about sprockets and which ones may have to be jimmied but yeah -the crank is a typical standard three piece so most stuff will work on it.
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Has anyone noticed that when you pull the rear brake lever that the gyro comes up and hits the front of the head and then the rear of the gyro comes up further making it uneven? I was curious to see if I could flip the head upside down. So , I did it. I noticed that this puts the mounting position of the handle bars maybe a quarter of half inch higher. Since the bars are short to me I find that to be a good thing. The gyro now operates without contacting anything. Has anyone else done this?
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I believe that I mean to say "stem" rather than "head."
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Do all of the Animal Sprocky Balboas fit the Opsis crank? I noticed that Empire Bmx has this sprocket in other sizes, rather than the one at FF. I am interested in replacing the steel sprocket with aluminum but want don't want the smaller gear up front since I am street riding as well and like to get speed up. I am just unsure if the outer ring/teeth is the only difference.
I ran a 32 Sprocky Balboa up front on my Opsis! ;D
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Am I really the only person to flip the stem? Surprising. New question. If I am going to replace the coaster/hub, should I upgrade spokes while I am at it?
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spokes are spokes unless you get triple butted ones or something and sure they shave weight but meh -only thing I guess you'd need to check is if the new hub has a different sized flange -then maybe you'd need different length spokes. Hah and lacing a hub is kinda fun *kinda*
I noticed somewhere that you are in NC -we should meet up at some point though I am in Boone. -Slide a message on over to bhuffman and maybe we could all meet up half way and get a little jam together.
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Another question: Do I need a proper cone wrench to dismantle the freecoaster? Or would a standard open wrench do?
Thanks in advance! :beer:
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Another question: Do I need a proper cone wrench to dismantle the freecoaster? Or would a standard open wrench do?
A cone wrench helps but you may not really need one. If you just use two open wrenches on the jam nuts on either side of the hub, one cone or the other will loosen up for you -then you'll be able to take the axle and parts out from one side. Cone wrenches are nice for easily getting the tension just right when putting it back together although admittedly I managed for years without them -just gotta fiddle a lot with the tension by tightening the pegs which takes some patience =p
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Another question: Do I need a proper cone wrench to dismantle the freecoaster? Or would a standard open wrench do?
A cone wrench helps but you may not really need one. If you just use two open wrenches on the jam nuts on either side of the hub, one cone or the other will loosen up for you -then you'll be able to take the axle and parts out from one side. Cone wrenches are nice for easily getting the tension just right when putting it back together although admittedly I managed for years without them -just gotta fiddle a lot with the tension by tightening the pegs which takes some patience =p
Thanks for the info. Really appreciate it. I checked tracking, and my Opsis should arrive early next week. Whoo!
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My 2010 Opsis:
Here is a picture of my Opsis. It has been ridden hard and upgraded along the way:
Intrikat 8.5 bars.
Odyssey Monolevers.
Odyssey Intac Seatpost.
Federal V2 Freecoaster.
28T Stolen Eternity Chainring.
Hoffman Tensioners.
*The rest is pretty much stock. This is a great bike to get started on....Didn't have a ton of money initially to get a bike, but had the funds to get this one. I've slowly had the money to upgrade along the way. I will probably get a new frame eventually (Fly Tierra v3?)....The 19" TT of the Opsis is OK, but at 5'11" I do feel a little cramped. Thanks DK for making an affordable way to get back into flatland.
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sweet! and upgrading is fun and simply part of life when it comes to flatland ;)
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Hey, I'm having a problem with the freecoaster on my new 2011 opsis. It's been like this since the day I got the bike about 3 weeks ago (I've been riding every day hoping that it would break in and start working right or something). Most of the time, the hub takes like 2 or 3 revolutions of the pedals to engage. If I lean the bike toward the sprocket, the problem is better, and if I lean the bike the other way, it's worse. This is my first freecoaster and I don't know how they're really supposed to ride. Does it usually take some time riding a new freecoaster to get it to work right? Do you think there's something wrong with my freecoaster? Is this a common problem? It's getting really frustrating, it makes it super hard to ride out of tricks.
Thanks!
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stupid dk opsis freecoaster spring! (http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww214/jasonrideout/GOPR2106.jpg)
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Hello,
I just got a 2011 DK Opsis... the geometry is very nice but it feels pretty damn heavy. Ive been riding a 2011 WTP Reason and its such a light bike, really fun to ride. My question is: What is so heavy on this thing? I thought it was a complete cromo frame? I was gonna get some cromo flatland bars and narrow them - but besides that - any advice to put this puppy on a diet?? Thanks : )
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Hello,
I just got a 2011 DK Opsis... the geometry is very nice but it feels pretty damn heavy. ....any advice to put this puppy on a diet?? Thanks : )
Heya IRIE, it's a decent bike for the price but everything on it is not quite *pro* and so added up the total weight is much more than todays pro flatland rides.
On page [15] of this thread if you scroll down you'll come across a list of all the parts weights (for the 2010 which should be almost identical) -I weighed the parts with the mindset of people wanting to swap things out to save weight -go for the heaviest, cheapest to replace stuff right off. Some of the first I swapped was the heavy gummy tires for some primo comets and the solid steel sprocket for something aluminum ;) It's not a bad bike at all for the price but certainly not gonna be as pro and light as the higher dollar stuff out there. One note -you'll want to replace the free coaster first chance you get as well, so if you still have your old back wheel I'd get that on there right away. (the hub works for a while but is a bit of a headache and it seems everyone reports it breaking for good after about six months)
Good luck!
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Oh ok I saw where every piece was weighed but I thought it might be different cuz mine is a 2011, good good good I'll look at that! That breakdown is awesome! The thing is, im not very good so buying a pro bike seems stupid to me, but im wondering if a lighter bike would help me with some of the tricks. Im only 5'5 and have a hard time getting the bike off the ground. The geometry of the Opsis has helped a little bit, but im still having a tough time manuvering the bike.
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The thing is, im not very good so buying a pro bike seems stupid to me, but im wondering if a lighter bike would help me with some of the tricks. Im only 5'5 and have a hard time getting the bike off the ground. The geometry of the Opsis has helped a little bit, but im still having a tough time manuvering the bike.
Man, I SO hear ya on that -That was my exact dilemma to begin with as well. (5'5 too and 115 soaking wet LOL) and my old ride was a Dyno Pro Compe that weighed 35lbs! All sorts of little things will help over time though -the geometry is indeed very good step in the right direction. One of the great things about the Opsis is that since it is new(unlike the old '89 Dyno) -most of the parts can be switched easily with many pro parts out there now so it's a good buildable, evolvable bike. As with all Flatland in general -even if you started with a light weight pro bike it takes hella work and repetitions to dial tricks in -so don't get discouraged -you'll adjust to the bike somewhat for sure too. Definitely helps to swap a few parts on that beast though as you go along and can afford it. My opsis has completely been traded out over the last two years except the front wheel, pegs, gyro and brake levers. I know some pro parts are fairly expensive but you can do things like haunt the For Sale list here on the forum and watch for clearance sales such as the current frame deal at Flatlandfuel. (I picked up some Zion forks on clearance last year which were literally half the weight of the opsis forks and zero offset to boot which helped with my geometry by leaps and bounds ;)
Point: you'll always be tinkering with your bike (part of the fun and adventure of flatland to me) I'm sure I'll find some even newer stuff I want to switch too out as time goes on and things wear out.
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Oh -tip on replacing Opsis sprocket... don't be afraid to go down in tooth size -alot of flatlanders have smaller gear ratio (I'm running 20:11 now and it feels way more natural for setting up in small spaces though I don't actually *ride* my bike anywhere) It really depends Completely on your preferences -do a search on "gear ratio" here on the forum and learn what you can before you purchase a new sprocket. Also if you plan on getting a new cog for your Opsis Taska hub or if you are going to switch the hub out totally -be sure to read up on how the new ratios may feel depending on what you can get. -last tip on that is... get a half link! hahaha I bought two since they are so cheap and keep a spare handy but OMG a half link will solve so many gearing issues ;) and at least one chain tensioner ain't a bad idea either lol
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Well, i dont want to end up switching everything out - id rather buy a bike and just ride lol - im just not a tinkerer : ). If it was just a few heavy parts yeah - but the frame is heavy too.. lol im too weak (lazy) to ride a heavy bike! Lol... I had a mid school dyno/gt too - weighted as much as a kmart bike... Useless. My WTP Reason is 25lbs still not the lightest bike - and its a dream to ride. Thanks for your info and advice - its a big help : )
BTW the opsis says it has a freecoaster hub - but i thought they were supposed to click loud - mine is silent. And it doesnttake off right away either is this a different style freecoaster?
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BTW the opsis says it has a freecoaster hub - but i thought they were supposed to click loud - mine is silent. And it doesnttake off right away either is this a different style freecoaster?
Most freecoasters don't click. Cassette hubs click. Freecoasters don't engage instantly because they have a gap. The gap is what saves you when going backwards and not getting caught up in backpedal.
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but i thought they were supposed to click loud - mine is silent. And it doesnttake off right away either is this a different style freecoaster?
Nah -the thing that clicks is called a Free Wheel -there are little teeth called "pawls" inside what cause the clicking sound. The Free Coaster is kind of a modified coaster brake design without the braking feature -it's what allows you to roll backwards and not have the pedals engaged thereby allowing you to set your landing pedal where you want it and it'll still be in that position when you go to ride out of a backward rolling trick and also the back pedaling won't catch you in the back of the knee or ankle in the middle of a trick.
The reason it doesn't take off right away is more complex -there are usually a series of washers inside a Free Coaster that determine how much "slack" is in your crank before it engages. More washers equal faster engaging and less washers mean you can turn your cranks more rotation before the hub engages allowing you to rotate pedals in either direction without having any backpedaling at all (think being able to reach down and setting the pedals in the middle of a trick)
Now all that being said, if I remember right that the Taska hub on the Opsis might not even have washers or adjustable slack. Either way, you'll want to switch that Taska hub out sooner than later I'd bet ;)
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What's the difference between the 2011 and 2012 Opsis?
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I'd shoot an email over to Flatlandfuel for that one -I'm sure they have all those details on the new Opsis versus last years ;)
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Thanks scapegoat and paradox... I was a little confused on the lingo ; )
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Here's the response I got from DK about the difference between the 2011 and 2012 Opsis.
No much really, the spec is almost identical, mainly the color and graphics. There was a price difference in the two, that had to do mainly with the cost of materials going up.
Jesse
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Does anyone have a pair of the stock pegs from one of these units they may want to get rid of?
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Anyone got detailed specs for the 2013 Opsis yet?
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2013 OpsisDetailed Description
TT: 19" | CS: 13.363" | HT: 75° | ST: 70° | Weight: 27.75lbs
4130 Chromoly Main Frame DK Flatland Design4130 Chromoly Steer Tube 1-1/8” Threadless w/ Internal Fork Lug
DK Design 2-pc Bars
3-pc Tubular Chromoly 160mm Cranks
MID Sealed BB
DK 28/14T Gearing
Alloy Rear Hub with 14T Freecoaster
1.95” High Pressure 110 PSI Tires w/ Alloy Rims
DK Tsuka Grips
Alloy Front Load Stem
Double Side Sealed Bearings, Integrated 1-1/8” Headset
Steel Nuvo Gyro
KMC Z510 Chain
2-Finger Cast Alloy Brake Lever
Alloy U-brake w/ Green Sticky Compound Pads
DK Nylon/Fiber Pedals
Plastic Pivotal Seat
Alloy Axle Pegs (4)
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Picked up a 11" white Opsis about three months ago for $200. Dude wanted to unload it due to moving and lack of use. Brand. Spanking. New. Dude only stripped the stickers off. Tires still had the mold nipples on them and smelt factory. My first "new school" ride in about a little over a decade. So glad to be back on a frame, feels so good. Took a while to get used to the diff geo, not used to the twitchy, lol.
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Why is the DK Opsis not on the website anymore? Are they planning on releasing a new 2014 model soon?
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I asked Flatlandfuel earlier today about one, and they said it is discontinued.
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I asked Flatlandfuel earlier today about one, and they said it is discontinued.
wow, that's a bummer!
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Albe's still has them, and I believe there's a 10% coupon code floating around, too.
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I selected the color then said sold out.
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So what does that leave as the next best thing? Been searching for a Opsis for a while :s
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I've found quite a few used Opsis on CL around the country lately. Can't find anyone that will ship tho.
There's a signal on the bay rite meow tho.
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The only one I can find on craigslist, the guy won't message me back.
This is a real shame, without something entry level, this sport will eventually die. I know I'm not getting in to it for 500$.
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Like the title says, needs to work obviously and turn signal needs to cancel with wheel. Pm me with what you have. Thanks