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English => Flatland Media => Topic started by: JUGGARNAUT on January 17, 2010, 01:46:31 AM
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I bought one to replace the one I gave away. I am going to be building this up and will be posting progress pix.I will also include discriptions of work done to that point. This pic is from BMX Museum.com for comparison purposes and Approximately where I will be goin' with this.
It will be built with ALOT of parts I bought and Traded for on here. Old ,Mid and New School parts to boot! I loved this bike BITD and have been lookin for one since then But they go for BIG $$$$ in NOS condition. So I found this on Ebay with a $200 starting price ,watched it for a week, noone bid except me and I got it for $200 + $35 shipping. So thats the starting point.
FOR THE RECORD ,I WILL BE RIDING THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I know most have seen this a million times ,but for this thread it's needed.
My Original 1987 General RL Osborn Pro. Parts breakdown at a Later time.
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In my area bitd this bike was like a unicorn that none of us ever saw outside of issues of Freestylin'... lol
Personally, the bike I ALWAYS wanted was the '88(?) Woody Itson Strike Zone. The white/red/chrome finish always did it for me whenever I saw pics of that bike. Have fun with the build!
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The wheels were bought on here ,
Front from Brandon Fenton, AWESOME wheel, Fly hub, Chrome Araya Super 7X.
Rear from Radone1990, Another Awesome wheel, KHE Geisha hub, Chrome Araya Super 7X
both are 48's.
pix
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looks good jug , cool to see you found one!
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looks good jug , cool to see you found one!
Thanks Jason, here are the cranks I just got from Dave00
Redline Double pinch Flights, (old ones were 401's single pinch,44t Flight sprocket),The Grave yard will go on my OTHER bike.I will use my Chrome WTP Supreme Sprocket till I find something closer to the Flight . I'll have to POLISH the rust off,new bolts from Dans Comp.
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Here's the Chrome:
WTP Mantis forks, w/mounts and Min. offset,Haro Dave Mirra Bars, Haro Seatpost 1" which won't fit this and neither will the Primo Clamp. Jesse Puente checkin the work.....;D
OSG hooked these up for me,I gave him a frame and he offered this in return.
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Got my Hombres back from Jazzman in a trade, so they'll be on it too.
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The bike will come with Dia Compe Nippons on the 1" stock forks ,but I'll use the WTP's I had Chromed and this HS I am getting from todborndead. It will fit in the 1" headtube ,but allow the use of 1 1/8" forks. it took a bit of "prying" from me to score this. Thank You Tod. ;D
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Tires will be Ody Tanwall G's duh....1.85's. Not sure which pegs, Silver or polished Flat pegs are hard to find these days. Ideas anyone ???
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nice
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Lookin' good Juggers. :beer:
A always wanted an Osborn Pro...but never had the money. Like stated before, it was like a unicorn.
I should be able to get those parts out to you sometime this week. Well, like the early part of the week.
Just thinking out loud here, but I wonder how much Redlines sales dropped when RL went to General. Seems that a lot of people that were riding RL-20ll's switched over to Generals when he started riding for them. Makes you think about how influential he was.
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pretty off topic but i saw a kid riding an old school gt performer yesterday :ph34r:
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Lookin' good Juggers. :beer:
A always wanted an Osborn Pro...but never had the money. Like stated before, it was like a unicorn.
I should be able to get those parts out to you sometime this week. Well, like the early part of the week.
Just thinking out loud here, but I wonder how much Redlines sales dropped when RL went to General. Seems that a lot of people that were riding RL-20ll's switched over to Generals when he started riding for them. Makes you think about how influential he was.
Thanks Tod,I'd have to agree with this mostly because they were cheaper and sure, not US made like RL 20 II's.Thier quality was up there with Haro Since Anlun made most Haros then too. I do think there was a shift because He was such an influence then. ;D I can't wait to finish and Ride her !!
@ Splinter, Thank you too Bro.
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pretty off topic but i saw a kid riding an old school gt performer yesterday :ph34r:
Befriend him. ;D
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Just thinking out loud here, but I wonder how much Redlines sales dropped when RL went to General. Seems that a lot of people that were riding RL-20ll's switched over to Generals when he started riding for them. Makes you think about how influential he was.
I think it was a big smack in the chops when Stu Thomsen went from Redline to Huffy! My friends and I could not believe it when it happened. I mean...Huffy, of all brands, was one we would NEVER buy no matter who rode their bikes. I know Stu wasn't freestyle but still...
Sorry, didn't mean to derail the thread, carry on with the General...!
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Just thinking out loud here, but I wonder how much Redlines sales dropped when RL went to General. Seems that a lot of people that were riding RL-20ll's switched over to Generals when he started riding for them. Makes you think about how influential he was.
I think it was a big smack in the chops when Stu Thomsen went from Redline to Huffy! My friends and I could not believe it when it happened. I mean...Huffy, of all brands, was one we would NEVER buy no matter who rode their bikes. I know Stu wasn't freestyle but still...
Sorry, didn't mean to derail the thread, carry on with the General...!
Yeah,I remember that....Weren't the TEAM bikes custom though,like the Murray's?
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Just thinking out loud here, but I wonder how much Redlines sales dropped when RL went to General. Seems that a lot of people that were riding RL-20ll's switched over to Generals when he started riding for them. Makes you think about how influential he was.
I think it was a big smack in the chops when Stu Thomsen went from Redline to Huffy! My friends and I could not believe it when it happened. I mean...Huffy, of all brands, was one we would NEVER buy no matter who rode their bikes. I know Stu wasn't freestyle but still...
Sorry, didn't mean to derail the thread, carry on with the General...!
Yeah,I remember that....Weren't the TEAM bikes custom though,like the Murray's?
I think the Murray frames were actually better than the Stu Thomsen frames. I had a Murray X20C frame and it was TIG welded cromoly, not like the standard production Murray frames. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the frame Stu rode was the same as one you could buy in a store. His components might not have been the same, but I really think the frame was. Pics of him in magazines showed him on a bike with a chain guard and reflectors!! That really sunk it for me...
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hey ,but i would think his bike was cro-mo and the geometry to the man was a giant!111
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This was the first peek we had. Remember this guys? All stealthy with no decals.
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hey ,but i would think his bike was cro-mo and the geometry to the man was a giant!111
I'm betting his was the same as the ones you bought in Wal Mart. I've never seen a single one with good welds or seen one that didn't have a stamped steel seatpost clamp and a spot-welded brake bridge. On the other hand, the X20C was cromoly and was TIG welded...at least Murray tried to do something cool. Huffy just put Stu's name on one of their mild-steel mig-welded bombs and paid Stu big $$ to ride it...
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This was the first peek we had. Remember this guys? All stealthy with no decals.
Yes.
I have a General Osborn Hustler, the lower end heavy one. I like the twin top tube and the decals survived really well. Its one of the black ones:
http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/general/16858 (http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/general/16858)
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This was the first peek we had. Remember this guys? All stealthy with no decals.
Yes.
I have a General Osborn Hustler, the lower end heavy one. I like the twin top tube and the decals survived really well. Its one of the black ones:
[url]http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/general/16858[/url] ([url]http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/general/16858[/url])
I have looked at that Bike 1000's of times and said to myself,"If it were only CHROME" I love the setup though.......Very Nice.
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YEAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S HERE!!! PIX LATER.................;D
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Ok, it has CHROME Nippons and OG White pads, Chrome 4pc GT bars, the ones Animal copied for Bob Scerbo. Polished Dk mini stem, Blk and Silver ACS levers, Black GT seatpost clamp, Chrome GT laidback seatpost, Black GT seat, Black Gen 1 Odyssey Gyro with all cables, Grey Shimano XTR rear Centerpulls. Black grips and barends. ;D I am 1 Happy Camper folks !!!!!! Oh yeah, No Cracks, dents or rewelds!!! so tomorrow is breakdown and pics.
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LOTS of Polishing to do, can't wait for my Chrome to show up from Cali. and FL. ;D
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This was the first peek we had. Remember this guys? All stealthy with no decals.
Yes.
I have a General Osborn Hustler, the lower end heavy one. I like the twin top tube and the decals survived really well. Its one of the black ones:
[url]http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/general/16858[/url] ([url]http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/general/16858[/url])
I have looked at that Bike 1000's of times and said to myself,"If it were only CHROME" I love the setup though.......Very Nice.
Thanks--I've love for it to be chrome too, I may be headed that direction with it now coincedentally
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show us the rough "before" shots man. i wanna see how it rolled out the barn
I plan on it, I hope I have the Sun like we did today, I almost forgot what it looked like.
if not, then on the kitchen table with lots of light. ;D
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This was the first peek we had. Remember this guys? All stealthy with no decals.
Yes.
I have a General Osborn Hustler, the lower end heavy one. I like the twin top tube and the decals survived really well. Its one of the black ones:
[url]http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/general/16858[/url] ([url]http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/general/16858[/url])
I have looked at that Bike 1000's of times and said to myself,"If it were only CHROME" I love the setup though.......Very Nice.
Thanks--I've love for it to be chrome too, I may be headed that direction with it now coincedentally
That will be killer. Pm'd you. ;D
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First shots,non cleaned.Not even wiped down with a rag.
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Now with the lightest of Polishing......;D just a couple of spots to see how time consuming it'll be. These few places were a Beeze, Thanks to Great Chrome plating of the 80's. ;D
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not sure but i think that seat and the OG dk stem have some value
This is Loaded with cash cows.... Chrome Nippons with original pads,Dk stem,all the GT parts that are stamped and printed are in Excellent condition,Most of which will go on this..
EDIT: I have 2 of those seats BTW. ;D
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When I was 14-15, I rode an RL Pro (maybe the 88 model). I believe I got it after seeing a General show featuring Sean Leslie (with whom I traded an "X" Swatch for a set of basically homecrafted bolt-on [not threaded] pegs). I didn't keep the frame long because it was really too big for me. It was a sharp-looking bike, though; mine was black and chrome with flourescent stickers that really "popped", if you'll pardon the expression. But to me, all of the color and graphics combinations of the RL (and many other bikes from that period, as well) were pretty excellent.
Though I no longer have the RL, I do have a few 80's bikes that I'd like to restore to riding condition, just as a hobby. They do have a bit of rust, though, and I was hoping you (or other members) would have some suggestions for removing it. Is it possible to simply polish it out? Or, is there a chemical that makes things easier? Your advice would really be appreciated.
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I started Polishing with a Cheaper harsher polish,then I'll finish up with Mothers. The Black RL I had was an '87 ,I bought it From the General Freestyle Team, in '87 the Black ones were TEAM ONLY frames, in '88 they swapped the Graphics and offered the Black colorway. I never even seen an '88 in Black till MANY years later on BMX Museum. I am very Happy to have this bike again. ;D More to come!
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What's the smallest sprocket you can run with the 990's on the chainstays?
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What's the smallest sprocket you can run with the 990's on the chainstays?
I can run a 30t with 996's and Fly springs and an 11 in the back. Tried it earlier,just about 3mm of clearance. Like this Zippo I built.
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Getting a new chain with shorter side plate to ensure enough clearance. 1/2 x 1/8, it'll be ,you guessed it Chrome! ;D Anyone know where I can buy some extra Fly brake hardware to replace what I'm using? LMK please. ;D
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turning out great
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turning out great
Thanks,I did find the Brake hardware on FF! I'll be in touch Pat, been a while.;D
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I just finished restoring my 87 General Osborn Pro. I got it in 87 as a graduation present from my parents. Then my brother had it for a while, then a few years back I gave it to my son who still had it sitting in his shed. I'll post some pics when I get a camera.
I was able to keep it pretty much all original, though I had to powder coat a few things that were beyond polishing. I think the only new things I put on were tires and pedals and a seatpost. Maybe brake levers too. Changed up the color combination a bit because of the powder coating, new decals. It looks awesome. I loved that bike. My next "bikes of my youth" project is the 85 Haro Master I have waiting for money, and for me to finish my Hoffman Strowler. Now i just need to find a Hutch Tricks Star to complete the collection.
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I just finished restoring my 87 General Osborn Pro. I got it in 87 as a graduation present from my parents. Then my brother had it for a while, then a few years back I gave it to my son who still had it sitting in his shed. I'll post some pics when I get a camera.
I was able to keep it pretty much all original, though I had to powder coat a few things that were beyond polishing. I think the only new things I put on were tires and pedals and a seatpost. Maybe brake levers too. Changed up the color combination a bit because of the powder coating, new decals. It looks awesome. I loved that bike. My next "bikes of my youth" project is the 85 Haro Master I have waiting for money, and for me to finish my Hoffman Strowler. Now i just need to find a Hutch Tricks Star to complete the collection.
Nice Bro,Definately post a pic up.
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I should be gettin my Chrome from OSG this week, can't wait for that.Wait till ya'll see the Upgrade that I think I came up with ,it worked in prototype, so we'll see.I'm sure somebody will say they seen it before or something. Anyway I can say I posted it first. Should be Great.;D
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Sean Leslie (with whom I traded an "X" Swatch for a set of basically homecrafted bolt-on [not threaded] pegs).
Sean's CRACK PIPES... I remember those... I would always tell him 'CRACK IS WHACK' when he would come around pushing them... LOL...
:beer: :beer: :beer:
-Roy
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Got my Chrome from OSG today !!! Pix up later.;D
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All I can say is WOW!!! The finish is smooth as a babies ASS. ;D Everything is perfect! Race slips on the fork no probs. Threads aren't blocked. Great care was taken. Thank You so much Bro and Thank You Jesse Puente for the goodies and Signing my Bars and Forks as well!! ;D
Mutt , Thank You for all the liason work you did without being asked,FOOKIN NINJA!!! ;D
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HAHAAA! The Chrome and someone we ALL know, Mr Jesse Puente!!! ;D
http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=31501.0;attach=24214;image (http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=31501.0;attach=24214;image)
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In 45mm.Tight! ;D
http://www.danscomp.com/showfullimage.php?type=products&group=STEMSFRONTLOAD&image=372042_Aluminum_(Raw)=50mm_Reach.gif&title=FLYBIKES (http://www.danscomp.com/showfullimage.php?type=products&group=STEMSFRONTLOAD&image=372042_Aluminum_(Raw)=50mm_Reach.gif&title=FLYBIKES) STEMSFRONTLOAD FLY BIKES MEDIA STEM
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Damn that looks so sweet. I just gave mine a 24 hour soak in vinegar to get rid of the surface rust, the polished it with Blue Magic metal polish and Charmin. I don't know if that's something anyone has ever heard of, but I guess Charmin is the one TP with no wood fiber in it. Polishes up real nice. I hope to have pics up this weekend of that and the other old school bike I just finished. I'll post up some of my partial Strowler too.
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Damn that looks so sweet. I just gave mine a 24 hour soak in vinegar to get rid of the surface rust, the polished it with Blue Magic metal polish and Charmin. I don't know if that's something anyone has ever heard of, but I guess Charmin is the one TP with no wood fiber in it. Polishes up real nice. I hope to have pics up this weekend of that and the other old school bike I just finished. I'll post up some of my partial Strowler too.
Cool! please do. ;D
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Mock up.
Need a longer stem, these bars might be a no go, no probs, got LOTS of bars to choose from,but I'll give 'em a try. Stem will probably be the new 45mm Fly Media model, Polished of course. ;D Will gradually also include their new Levers in Polished as well, but for now I'll go with what I have. I got the cranks ,sprocket and Hoffman bars today from Dave00.
Anyway, the first shot of mock up.............;D
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Found Chrome cables just now. My Son is so Stoked on this he is buying them for me for my B-day! Still can't find Pegs that aren't 2".....HELP!!! I might just strip some that are anno and Polish them since I AM A POLISHING FOOL THESE DAYS !!!! :P
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me thinks you may need a laid back post on that . The stem should be ok if you switch to one. How bout a front shot of the bars...
I will have a shortened one...pic
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that bike is already looking sweeeeet
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im thinking one like this , but it wont have the fancy gut your after. Maybe dock 2" off the top
I have the Stamped GT Laidback that came on it ready to dock!!;D
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try photochopping the post to get an idea before you mod the vintage goods. i think byke is your guy with the skills
I have 2 ,so no probs . Did this to the OG one in the 80's
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That chrome is POW! Looks amazing Juggers.
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Thanks Tod, I Love it too, I'm Happy with everything thus far.........I appreciate all the kind words from everyone on this. To all concerned, this will be my MAIN daily rider as well. ;D
Not a Wall mount! HS enroute from TX. A trade from this guy right here Tod. A trade of pegs and a lever scored me the HS I needed and a couple of other parts for the Suge and Dyno. ;D yes ,I said SUGE! ;D
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Factory Stock in '87 ;D
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/elcidd/General%20Osborn/op_catalog.jpg (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/elcidd/General%20Osborn/op_catalog.jpg)
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Gyro w/London Mod,basically a new version of what I ran BIYD.Then was a ACS Pro Rotor,spunit 180 degrees and drilled another cable hole ,slipped in anothe cable,got a Spintech lower cup which had Double cable stops and ran Double lower rear cables.;D
This will be a Polished Mobeus with London Mod to the rear Diatech 996's w/ Fly brake hardware for clearance . tried a different Stem (50mm Hoffman) and Bars (8x26 Mosh) to check for more room and more leverage with the wider bars,I think this is it,heres another pic.
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Lookin KILLER Juggs.....wheres the tan wall tires??
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Thanks Bro ,they're out in my Shop.
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The decals on the '87 Chrome RL's are Chrome backed. I'm gettin' a set from AJK bikes. These graphics were only on the '87's.
sample:
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double check you ajk decals, as I have had a fair few decals off him that the ink falls off or has been printed (or designed) badly.
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double check you ajk decals, as I have had a fair few decals off him that the ink falls off or has been printed (or designed) badly.
Thanks, will do.;D
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double check you ajk decals, as I have had a fair few decals off him that the ink falls off or has been printed (or designed) badly.
I've had the same problem with a couple, but it always seems to be the small 4130 CroMo frame stickers. They flake off just taking the backing off of them.
I just had a frame sticker made for a Haro Invert by someone I've had do dirtbike graphics for me in the past. Came out absolutely perfect. Little thicker than what I've been getting from AJK. I sent her a Haro Sport sticker, and a picture of an Invert with the frame sticker. Cost me $15. I hope to have a picture of it in a few days.
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double check you ajk decals, as I have had a fair few decals off him that the ink falls off or has been printed (or designed) badly.
I've had the same problem with a couple, but it always seems to be the small 4130 CroMo frame stickers. They flake off just taking the backing off of them.
I just had a frame sticker made for a Haro Invert by someone I've had do dirtbike graphics for me in the past. Came out absolutely perfect. Little thicker than what I've been getting from AJK. I sent her a Haro Sport sticker, and a picture of an Invert with the frame sticker. Cost me $15. I hope to have a picture of it in a few days.
I only plan using the main frame decal,the seattube and maybe the headtube seeing how thats all I had left on the OG. I had a VSW sticker on the HT and all the others were taken off.
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An '87 and a '88 nice! The different decals and the '88 doesn't have the gusset hole for the cable to go through.
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q's,,, love'm
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q's,,, love'm
I never figured out what the extra crossbar was for, Furball????
Scored a Chrome 7/8" seatpost from Brandon via Evil Lincoln, I Thank BOTH of you Gentlemen very much!
So here's the Breakdown as of now;
$200 frame
$60 front wheel
$20 seatpost
$110 back wheel
Thats $390 in this outta pocket. I had or traded for the rest of the bike so far,gotta love Trading. It's my way of recycling.;D
Need list:
Clear pedals
Fly Media Stem
Polished/Chrome pegs
Decals
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Pegs, I can't seem to find any, Jessup's would be Ideal. Has anybody ever seem them knurled? I can do this at work, I hate peelin old torn griptape off pegs. More polishing today,lots on my plate as of late. see ya tomorrow! ;D
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Tod, got my stuff today, yours is on the way Bro. I got a Chrome mix school HS from Tod and a Polished Seatclamp for my RL along with an Awesome Primo Rod post for another build I needed anyway....More pix soon. OSG, I may need your Chroming services again soon Bro. ;D Have a set of Chrome brake cables my Son bought for me coming this week AND My wife bought me a set of 1.85 Tanwall G's from Steve Laps that I'm using instead of the 1.75's I had, so no money to add to the amount. My Family seems to have taken to this bike, Finally!!!! ;D
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Got my Chrome cables today! need chain,Fly stem,? and then the build pix will Fly,no pun!!! ;D
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And pegs....
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Ok, this picture kinda sucks since I took it with my phone. I'll get some better ones up soon. (http://i907.photobucket.com/albums/ac279/RadCo2814/General.jpg?t=1264651153)
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Ok, this picture kinda sucks since I took it with my phone. I'll get some better ones up soon. ([url]http://i907.photobucket.com/albums/ac279/RadCo2814/General.jpg?t=1264651153[/url])
Nice restoration! Can't wait to see good pix! ;D
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Pic of Chrome Cables..
and I am gonna use some Black parts to break up the Chrome a lil'
Black: Stem,seat,grips,pedals,,pegs,upper gyro cable,BB, and Mobeus ALL of which I already have. I might change these all a bit as time wears on.
Apparently I am NOT gettin the clear pedals I was told I was gettin on here by an unnamed person,maybe they'll reply and Jack this thread. ;D or maybe they're not reading it. Oh well, I'm STOKED and thats all that matters to me. Pic.........
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This is going to be a bad ass build, I'm growing jealous, double top tubes are sweeet.
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This is going to be a bad ass build, I'm growing jealous, double top tubes are sweeet.
Thanks G!
This is cool as hell a Retro Flight Sprocket.....30t and Lighter.;D
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Found another Refurb.....
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**** News Flash****
I "Might" have another '87 also in Chrome in a trade with someone......!!!!!!!;D
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**** News Flash****
I "Might" have another '87 also in Chrome in a trade with someone......!!!!!!!;D
!!!! So close to ownership !!!!
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**** News Flash****
I "Might" have another '87 also in Chrome in a trade with someone......!!!!!!!;D
!!!! So close to ownership !!!!
;D
Yeah!!!! I got it! 2 Chrome RL's
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Lil update, I installed the laidback post I bought from Brandon,The 1.85 Tanwall G's that my wife bought for me from Steve Laps and the GT seat from a trade on Museum. LMK if ya like her so far.....
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I hope your chain clears the 990's in the back if you decide to run them. Nice Flights by the way. I used to dream about those as a kid.
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Yeah they will,,read back a bit it's covered.....Thanks I can't wait for the Second one I'm gettin too.
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Well, Evil Lincoln is sending Clear Pedals this way,Bought the Deluxe sprocket I want off Ebay.
Will be ordering the Chain Monday.Did a Wheel swap for these with Evil Lincoln as well. They will go on General #2.
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Wheels here tomorrow,it's nice to be able to buy things I want like all this. Even though most of this was trades, My friends on here are Great People, even the ones who I got stuff from that aren't are the Best. I have a Killer Nankai front from Brandons buddy,and I'm buying another as back up from a fellow member on here. Looks like this...;D
And a set of Chrome forks too.
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Got My new wheels today form Evil Lincoln, 2 words, BAD ASS! You build some nice wheels Bro!! Nice NEW clear Odyssey Clear PC's,and a FREE Intac seatpost as well!! Tomorrow I get to see FFDP! Life IS GOOODD.... Getting Chrome General RL Osborn Pro #2 Sat. or Sun.
This one looks to be in Almost Mint condition,rear platforms removed as well. I didn't see any rust to speak of,No cracks ,great welds too. More pix to come Guys.. Does any one have a set of Chrome Redline Flight cranks to sell? LMK. well see ya in a couple .. ;D
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Just got General #2! Cant wait to build this up, already have MOST of the parts to do so..Should be fun with ALL the bike I have to build for ABP. Pix SOON !
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Just some updates, Pedals from Evil Lincoln ,New polished Deluxe sprocket and Brakes on...;D
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damn that looks cool. I love the flight 401 look
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damn that looks cool. I love the flight 401 look
You better,it was your Idea.... ^_^
I like it too,modernized from my OG '87. It's coming together swell.
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Dope ass bike!! chrome is so cool!! i want to rebuild my gt vertigo after looking at this thread..
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Dope ass bike!! chrome is so cool!! i want to rebuild my gt vertigo after looking at this thread..
Do it Bro..I have a BUNCH of cool ass Mid School GT parts....LMK ;D
SnICKer,I have always liked the slightly Laidback posts.
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I LOVE THE CLEAR PEDALS,, WHERE DID YOU GET THEM FROM ,
SOMEONE WHO MAKES GOOD ON THEIR WORD??????????????????
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I LOVE THE CLEAR PEDALS,, WHERE DID YOU GET THEM FROM ,
SOMEONE WHO MAKES GOOD ON THEIR WORD??????????????????
I live in Castro valley Ca...AreaCycles.com Kenji the owner has some clear pedals that is!. ;D :beer: :beer: :beer:...Nice Rides Jugg.
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love the forks O.S.G,,,,,chrome mantis' are awesome
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I LOVE THE CLEAR PEDALS,, WHERE DID YOU GET THEM FROM ,
SOMEONE WHO MAKES GOOD ON THEIR WORD??????????????????
I live in Castro valley Ca...AreaCycles.com Kenji the owner has some clear pedals that is!. ;D :beer: :beer: :beer:...Nice Rides Jugg.
Thanks OSG, You're a big part in this as well Bro.
G,I got these clears in a swap from Evil Lincoln for my Green ones I had.He and OSG both kept their word. ;D LMK if you need anything from me for your FBM build. OSG,you too!
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Question: Why didnt you just polish out some Trailmix's or the alloy twisteds? Think that might have looked a lil better. Just an opinion....
I actually looked into that....it's just that Metal + shins = Bikey shins... ^_^
I just always had metal pedals get all Clanky.I like a quiet, dialed bike,Ya know?
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true dat, but they make sealed peds now and we know how to service clanky unsealed peds. Pop the cap off and tighten em up.. no biggie. Like i said, just an opinion. Be warned, the clear yellows after a while...
I know what your sayin about the servicing....Yellow huh?.....Guess the Black pair will come into play then...I'll throw these on a ABP bike then. ;D Thanks for the heads up.
Does anyone have a set or 2 of KHE Stimulators? ;D
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true dat, but they make sealed peds now and we know how to service clanky unsealed peds. Pop the cap off and tighten em up.. no biggie. Like i said, just an opinion. Be warned, the clear yellows after a while...
I know what your sayin about the servicing....Yellow huh?.....Guess the Black pair will come into play then...I'll throw these on a ABP bike then. ;D Thanks for the heads up.
Does anyone have a set or 2 of KHE Stimulators? ;D
Pat says that KHE are producing new Stimulatorz. I think he said they might be availble in spring?
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true dat, but they make sealed peds now and we know how to service clanky unsealed peds. Pop the cap off and tighten em up.. no biggie. Like i said, just an opinion. Be warned, the clear yellows after a while...
I know what your sayin about the servicing....Yellow huh?.....Guess the Black pair will come into play then...I'll throw these on a ABP bike then. ;D Thanks for the heads up.
Does anyone have a set or 2 of KHE Stimulators? ;D
Pat says that KHE are producing new Stimulatorz. I think he said they might be availble in spring?
Nice,I'll be buying them then. Thanks for the heads up Bro.. ;D
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Damn Juggs, looks nice.
It's pretty long, no? Like 20 inch top tube? I remember it being long.
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Almost 20" tt I don't remember exactly ,but will check and post it. ;D
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Show some more pics Juggs. I love Generals. I had a Fred Blood Pro for a little bit. I loved jumping that thing.
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Just some updates, Pedals from Evil Lincoln ,New polished Deluxe sprocket and Brakes on...;D
Ahhhh.... sorry I didn't catch that pic at first. Freakin' sexy ass bike. I love the sprocket.
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Show some more pics Juggs. I love Generals. I had a Fred Blood Pro for a little bit. I loved jumping that thing.
I had the Blue one right before gettin the Black RL. I love them too...More pix to come as #2 is on it's way....... ;D
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#2 should be here later today....pix to follow!!! Should I paint one OG color or a diff. ???
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I always liked the grey ones....don't see them often.....and ajk bikes has the grey decals
#2 should be here later today....pix to follow!!! Should I paint one OG color or a diff. ???
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I saw he does ..I have only ever seen the White,Chrome and Black ones myself, what do ya'll think of the Red ones and the Grey ones?
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q's,,, love'm
I never figured out what the extra crossbar was for, Furball????
Scored a Chrome 7/8" seatpost from Brandon via Evil Lincoln, I Thank BOTH of you Gentlemen very much!
So here's the Breakdown as of now;
$200 frame
$60 front wheel
$20 seatpost
$110 back wheel
Thats $390 in this outta pocket. I had or traded for the rest of the bike so far,gotta love Trading. It's my way of recycling.;D
Need list:
Clear pedals - Swapped some Greenones for some Clears to Evil Lincoln = FREE
Fly Media Stem
Polished/Chrome pegs
Decals
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I saw he does ..I have only ever seen the White,Chrome and Black ones myself, what do ya'll think of the Red ones and the Grey ones?
LMK!
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Got a box in the mail today,I wonder what it is? ^_^ Pix of the TWINS......later!
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#2 should be here later today....pix to follow!!! Should I paint one OG color or a diff. ???
red, red, red,, ,,,, red,,, red,,, R.L. rode red, thats my vote.
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The TWINS......... Both '87's #2 is just mocked up for pic purposes...I will build this up this spring in my new shop where I'll have more room. But heres some pix for ya'll to see.
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2 more......... ;D
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Juggarnaut, how many general bikes do you own?
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Juggarnaut, how many general bikes do you own?
Just these two Chrome ones. ;D
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They look mint condition. Wish I had enough money to restore a HARO sport or master. I have one older bike Its a Schwinn powermatic complete.
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They look mint condition. Wish I had enough money to restore a HARO sport or master. I have one older bike Its a Schwinn powermatic complete.
They aren't mint, but are Damn close with the condition the Chrome is in. A lil' buff and polish then Bling!!! ;D Build it, I had a Hydramatic in yellow. This is how we ALL can Preserve our Sport for the Future riders to see what we rode and then they can Laugh and make fun of us...I can't wait to see in 10 years how they will Laugh at the bikes from today....ya know? I will ride these both, they're a mix of Old/Mid/new School parts. I Love them. yes...... LOVE them.
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Oh from the early 80s to current, bikes have had some changes. I look at some of the bikes I've had and rode, man I had a bunch of Hutches and wish I kept them.
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Oh from the early 80s to current, bikes have had some changes. I look at some of the bikes I've had and rode, man I had a bunch of Hutches and wish I kept them.
I hear ya, I had some really badass bikes BITD.
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Hey Juggs....heres a pic of my Chrome Sport.
(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/Hatebreeder_2009/DSC06447.jpg)
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Hey Juggs....heres a pic of my Chrome Sport.
([url]http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/Hatebreeder_2009/DSC06447.jpg[/url])
That is SWEEEET! man ,That could almost be a cousin to my Generals. What did ya pay for the Dominator? $$$ ;D
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I bought it off of Ebay...its stamped Viscount 2166 under it but for the price...id bet its a fakie!
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I invade this topic with pictures of my "updated" 85 skyway street beat.
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running khe hindenburg 152's with fsa hollow ti spindle - 20/9 gear ratio with room to spare.
khe tanaka forks with mix match headset parts to make it work with 1" tioga cups
gesha wheel set = rides like a dream
dont be afraid to spice up your old bikes man. they actually ride sweet with a fiew minor mods.
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I bought it off of Ebay...its stamped Viscount 2166 under it but for the price...id bet its a fakie!
Hmmm, good price is a good thing..that Sport is sweet!
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For Brian,
This IS a mix of Old , Mid and New school....... custom SEALED hs, Chrome Mantis forks,Flights,NEW wheels/ tires,and so on.....
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Looks good Juggs. I may pick up some chrome rims soon.
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o yeah.
diggin the micro layback seat post also !
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o yeah.
diggin the micro layback seat post also !
Would you happen to have a 7/8" for sale Brian? ;D
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I am taking G's advice and painting my #2 General up in RED!!!
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I cant get over how sweet that crank and sprocket looks! That is the nicest set up Ive seen!
You made a great choice on the 401 look man :beer: Red will be sweeeeet and PIMP :beer:
I am refering to the chrome General about the crank and sprocket :beer:
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I cant get over how sweet that crank and sprocket looks! That is the nicest set up Ive seen!
You made a great choice on the 401 look man :beer: Red will be sweeeeet and PIMP :beer:
this?
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I cant get over how sweet that crank and sprocket looks! That is the nicest set up Ive seen!
You made a great choice on the 401 look man :beer: Red will be sweeeeet and PIMP :beer:
this?
Yep,The nicest on this site!
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I cant get over how sweet that crank and sprocket looks! That is the nicest set up Ive seen!
You made a great choice on the 401 look man :beer: Red will be sweeeeet and PIMP :beer:
this?
Yep,The nicest on this site!
Thank You, I searched High and low for a smaller "Flight" looking sprocket and found that Deluxe. They are a British Company.
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go to danscomp, and seach for KNIGHT INDUSTRIES. They make an exact copy of og flight sprockets.
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go to danscomp, and seach for KNIGHT INDUSTRIES. They make an exact copy of og flight sprockets.
Saw them, too big for the 11 tooth I'm running out back. it's an ALL SCHOOL bike.LOL!
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Hey Juggs....heres a pic of my Chrome Sport.
([url]http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/Hatebreeder_2009/DSC06447.jpg[/url])
Okay...gotta ask. What year is this, and wear are the awful L shaped rear platforms on the Sports/Masters from the 80's? That was one of the reasons I never really rode a Master/Sport.
Did you hack it somehow, or is this a 90's version I have forgot about?
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Hey Juggs....heres a pic of my Chrome Sport.
([url]http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/Hatebreeder_2009/DSC06447.jpg[/url])
Okay...gotta ask. What year is this, and wear are the awful L shaped rear platforms on the Sports/Masters from the 80's? That was one of the reasons I never really rode a Master/Sport.
Did you hack it somehow, or is this a 90's version I have forgot about?
Looks like a retro sport, I think it was released in 2006...
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Hey Juggs...also, did you hack those rear platforms off, or did you get them like that? I noticed Timo "2 Fresh" hacked his off his red one too.
I hacked my rear platforms off my General. Seems like everyone did. I was thinking about how a lot of people hacked stuff off back in the 80's. I had a pair of Hutch forks that I loved(the dropouts were double thick), but hated the pegs welded on...so I hacked those off too.
Anywho, these Generals are coming along nice. I love the all school mix. Classic and functional.
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Its actually a 2005. I hated those rear platforms too!
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Hey Juggs...also, did you hack those rear platforms off, or did you get them like that? I noticed Timo "2 Fresh" hacked his off his red one too.
I hacked my rear platforms off my General. Seems like everyone did. I was thinking about how a lot of people hacked stuff off back in the 80's. I had a pair of Hutch forks that I loved(the dropouts were double thick), but hated the pegs welded on...so I hacked those off too.
Anywho, these Generals are coming along nice. I love the all school mix. Classic and functional.
Got them both already cut. Thanks for the props!
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Almost just had #3 tonight.....imagine that. ;D
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Might be able to nab it tomorrow though..
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Might be able to nab it tomorrow though..
Passed on it so fellow member "dug" could buy it. I did however buy some raw St.Martin Unique pegs of JohnU, which I polished up ...Looks awesome. I have had a set of these in Black on it for a while which will go on #2. Pix soon.
Thanks John!! ;D
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Might be able to nab it tomorrow though..
Passed on it so fellow member "dug" could buy it. I did however buy some raw St.Martin Unique pegs of JohnU, which I polished up ...Looks awesome. I have had a set of these in Black on it for a while which will go on #2. Pix soon.
Thanks John!! ;D
Thanks again!
Will post some pics when I get it built--which should be soon, I already have all of the parts for it
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Hey Juggs....heres a pic of my Chrome Sport.
([url]http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/Hatebreeder_2009/DSC06447.jpg[/url])
NICE! for those out the olds school loop, this bike was actually the preferred choice of the evolving flatlander OVER the haro master. The top tube made it lighter and roomier. Master was still cool because it had the fresh kneesavers. Best of both worlds going on here.
I don't remember it that way. The Master was shorter (which probably eliminated any weight savings and made for better handling) and had a steeper head angle and pretty much no one that specialized in flat rode one.
Lot's of people used Sports who did both though (like Wilkerson). The Sport was a better flatland bike than the Master was a ramp bike, IMO.
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Hey Juggs....heres a pic of my Chrome Sport.
([url]http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/Hatebreeder_2009/DSC06447.jpg[/url])
NICE! for those out the olds school loop, this bike was actually the preferred choice of the evolving flatlander OVER the haro master. The top tube made it lighter and roomier. Master was still cool because it had the fresh kneesavers. Best of both worlds going on here.
I don't remember it that way. The Master was shorter (which probably eliminated any weight savings and made for better handling) and had a steeper head angle and pretty much no one that specialized in flat rode one.
Lot's of people used Sports who did both though (like Wilkerson). The Sport was a better flatland bike than the Master was a ramp bike, IMO.
I didn't want to be the one to say that ...... I DON"T ever remember seeing that ,let alone hearing that. The Sport was the RAMP bike with S L O W E R geometry as I remember it.
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Might be able to nab it tomorrow though..
Passed on it so fellow member "dug" could buy it. I did however buy some raw St.Martin Unique pegs of JohnU, which I polished up ...Looks awesome. I have had a set of these in Black on it for a while which will go on #2. Pix soon.
Thanks John!! ;D
Thanks again!
Will post some pics when I get it built--which should be soon, I already have all of the parts for it
Please DO Bro, put them right here for ALL to see..............In MY threadf!!! ;D ;D
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The 3 bike shops I worked at sold Haro Sports cheaper to get them OFF the floor to make room for the next years Haro Masters and General RL Osborn Pro's.... Sorry , just the way IT was in the Late 80's early 90's where I Worked , Lived and Rode.... ;D It could have been different where you lived and rode.
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I had one and the 73.5 deg HA was really slow, and the frame was a tank as well. When I switched to a Trick Star(invasion tour weapon) it was a world of difference, 74.5 HA and 2 lbs lighter, what a difference.
Haros were the heaviest frames :P
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View of things to come......Ima Fukin Paint shop newb.....................LOL!!
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Juggs...I don't know if you're still shopping for a sprocket, but one of these would look fantastic! If I didn't have a odyssey cranks, I'd buy one of these so quick!
How long have Macneil been making this?
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I saw that, I can't run a 25t because of clearance. Macneil just released those a couple of months ago. I could buy a Poverty blank in 30t and Machine myself though.........hmmm...
Good lookin out though. Thank you.
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i think you guys are more refering to the 84-85. I'm speaking more on the 87-88. Team models especially. By the time they were available in the local shops, kids didnt ride ramps AT ALL around my way. It was all about squeakin, chickens and ropes. The 1" difference i never noticed because they (cant say I because i sure as hell didnt) all had sports.
No, I'm specifically thinking of the 87-88's. Now, what you claim may very well be true in your area, with the people you know. I'm just saying that I believe that most of the rest of the world did things the opposite. Whenever I went to an AFA contest, I don't remember anyone who wasn't primarily a ramp rider using a Sport for flatland. The only two I can think of is Matt Hofman and Joe Johnson, and they just rode flat to compete in the "overall".
I had one and the 73.5 deg HA was really slow, and the frame was a tank as well. When I switched to a Trick Star(invasion tour weapon) it was a world of difference, 74.5 HA and 2 lbs lighter, what a difference.
Haros were the heaviest frames :P
I don't remember it that way either. The 87-88 Master frame wasn't heavy at all. IIRC, it was around the same weight as the Trickstar. Later Master's gained some pounds though between the extra grind tubing, to the huge downtubes of later generation Masters.
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I had one and the 73.5 deg HA was really slow, and the frame was a tank as well. When I switched to a Trick Star(invasion tour weapon) it was a world of difference, 74.5 HA and 2 lbs lighter, what a difference.
Haros were the heaviest frames :P
I don't remember it that way either. The 87-88 Master frame wasn't heavy at all. IIRC, it was around the same weight as the Trickstar. Later Master's gained some pounds though between the extra grind tubing, to the huge downtubes of later generation Masters.
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I was refering to the sport.
My Trickstar was 5.3lbs I weighed it at my work on our digital scales. Even though I never owned a master,, except for my street master, I dont believe that frame was in the same weight class as the trickstar.
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I remember it being around 5 lbs. I've got a Zippo and it's mostly steel and it's only around 6 I think.
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Progress....
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I don't remember who ,but someone said This couldn't be done. Well here it is, a 30t front sprocket and an 11t rear WITH Chainstay mounted brakes.Hombres with Diatech spring and Fly hardware.
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Progress....
looking good!
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Progress....
looking good!
Where's yours?
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Progress....
looking good!
Where's yours?
In the process of cleaning the frame up before I mount the parts. I'll probably finish up in the next couple weeks--I'm wrapping up the school year (I'm a teacher) and have a newborn and toddler at home so I've been real busy. Will post pics soon!
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Progress....
looking good!
Where's yours?
In the process of cleaning the frame up before I mount the parts. I'll probably finish up in the next couple weeks--I'm wrapping up the school year (I'm a teacher) and have a newborn and toddler at home so I've been real busy. Will post pics soon!
Cool, I'm happy you got one! ;D
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Progress....
looking good!
Where's yours?
In the process of cleaning the frame up before I mount the parts. I'll probably finish up in the next couple weeks--I'm wrapping up the school year (I'm a teacher) and have a newborn and toddler at home so I've been real busy. Will post pics soon!
Cool, I'm happy you got one! ;D
I love the frame already and haven't even ridden it yet!
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Progress....
looking good!
Where's yours?
In the process of cleaning the frame up before I mount the parts. I'll probably finish up in the next couple weeks--I'm wrapping up the school year (I'm a teacher) and have a newborn and toddler at home so I've been real busy. Will post pics soon!
Cool, I'm happy you got one! ;D
I love the frame already and haven't even ridden it yet!
PIX, PIX, PIX! Let's see it so far ..........;D I rode mine brakeless Friday and part of yesterday.....Just like I remember I adapted back to it great (which I was hoping). Now for the cable to have brakes, because I suck without them. All my ABP kids want it. BLING BLING!! ^_^
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BTW, # 2 is for sale in the Marketplace.
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Progress....
looking good!
Where's yours?
In the process of cleaning the frame up before I mount the parts. I'll probably finish up in the next couple weeks--I'm wrapping up the school year (I'm a teacher) and have a newborn and toddler at home so I've been real busy. Will post pics soon!
Cool, I'm happy you got one! ;D
I love the frame already and haven't even ridden it yet!
PIX, PIX, PIX! Let's see it so far ..........;D I rode mine brakeless Friday and part of yesterday.....Just like I remember I adapted back to it great (which I was hoping). Now for the cable to have brakes, because I suck without them. All my ABP kids want it. BLING BLING!! ^_^
Here it is---cleaning up the chrome and smoothing out the dropouts where the standers were hacked off.
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Progress....
looking good!
Where's yours?
In the process of cleaning the frame up before I mount the parts. I'll probably finish up in the next couple weeks--I'm wrapping up the school year (I'm a teacher) and have a newborn and toddler at home so I've been real busy. Will post pics soon!
Cool, I'm happy you got one! ;D
I love the frame already and haven't even ridden it yet!
PIX, PIX, PIX! Let's see it so far ..........;D I rode mine brakeless Friday and part of yesterday.....Just like I remember I adapted back to it great (which I was hoping). Now for the cable to have brakes, because I suck without them. All my ABP kids want it. BLING BLING!! ^_^
Here it is---cleaning up the chrome and smoothing out the dropouts where the standers were hacked off.
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Awesome, Let me know if you need any parts...........I have PLENTY. ;D
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just need a set of white dia compe nippon brake pads, really thats it at the moment...
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just need a set of white dia compe nippon brake pads, really thats it at the moment...
I have a pair............ Swap for?
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DONE!!!!
Rides Great with brakes. Incredible that this geometry is more comfy to me than the sharp HT angles of today, minutes to re-adapt to this. the rearend is kinda slower for now But................
I LOVE THIS Frame....BTW I have been keeping track of funds spent for S&G's , Grand total of out of pocket cash including shipping on all parts bought is $577.30 that is the cheapest complete I have built. Pix tomorrow!!!
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Not completely finished; still needs a chain and rear brake adjustment:
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Not completely finished; still needs a chain and rear brake adjustment:
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Suweet!!!! mines done,need time to take and post pix though.
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Some newer pics:
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you guys need some chrome brake cables. :wacko:
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you guys need some chrome brake cables. :wacko:
Got some.......;D I forgot I said pix tomorrow...but their coming. Dug, our bikes are almost twins,,,,Looks Awesome.
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Here...
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nice--how does it ride?
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nice--how does it ride?
Just like I remember, but a bit lighter with the newer parts. I rode this all Summer and Love it, This was a well thought out and executed bike for all around ,But I only ride Flat on this one, I ain't pushing her in a Park.... I have plenty of other bikes strong enough for that.
Ya diggin' those Chrome Cable housings?
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I have this one for sale.... F+F HS, Post and Clamp.
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...... ;D
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nice--how does it ride?
Just like I remember, but a bit lighter with the newer parts. I rode this all Summer and Love it, This was a well thought out and executed bike for all around ,But I only ride Flat on this one, I ain't pushing her in a Park.... I have plenty of other bikes strong enough for that.
Ya diggin' those Chrome Cable housings?
Went through quickly just to look at the pics. Sweet ride man. Happen to remember the exact weight?
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Heavier 20's.. 27-28...
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I don't remember who ,but someone said This couldn't be done. Well here it is, a 30t front sprocket and an 11t rear WITH Chainstay mounted brakes.Hombres with Diatech spring and Fly hardware.
I know this is an old post, but a few people told me I'd have the same problems on my Master. Using a 9t/25t setup, I can run the Eclat Unit and the Kink Desist Ubrake in the rear with enough clearance. Hope this helps someone like me in the future.
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bumping so I can find easier...
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Nice bike. What was the deal with General. They just seamed to come out of nowhere and sponsored R.L. and Fred Blood. Then they were gone. was it part of another company?
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No, very small and wanted to get big, so they gathered some pros ,let them have complete input and then blew up. To my best recognition.
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Building another one, an '88 !!
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Ya tease! Let's see what you're starting with! :D
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This...
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Whoa! That is very nice!😎😜
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Back in the day, I should have been riding one of these instead of an '87 or '88 Master (before my '89)...mainly because it has the twin top tube without the ridiculous frame standers built into the chainstays in the rear. That was just the worst. It made your pegs about an inch long when the bike was upright. I was so damn happy when I got my '89 Master and it didn't have those ridiculous standers on it.
These frames rule as far as old school goes. I liked the Bravo pros too if the frame standers are sawed off.