Taos were always nice. The last OX version would have been better with a slightly lower top tube but other than that it was a good frames. Sabbaths were tanks but rode great. A little new for everyone. The NEW Sabbath frames were welded last week. S&M are showing one at Interbike this week. Sean McKinney and I have been on Chris Moeller for years to do a new Sabbath. The bad news is that you and I and Sean can call it the Sabbath but in reality its known as the "Little as ****". Its really similiar to an S&M LAF frame but with a 19" tt and flatland geometry (which the S&M street frames pretty much already have anyway).