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Offline Truth Bmx

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TRUTH TERMINATOR X FRAME
« on: March 22, 2020, 01:25:42 PM »


We just received our 3D photos of our new chromoly flatland .Let us know what you think about it and And changes to specs. The frame will retail for $349.95. Colors Red, Black, White,Blue, Yellow. If manufacturer let us mix colors more colors wiil be available. Frame Specs are below.


Chromoly 4130
Top Tube Lengh 18.5",19.0",19.5" ,20.5"
Rear End length 13.49"
Headtube Angle. 74.5°
Seatpost Angle 71 °
BB Height 11.60"
Spanish BB
Standover 7"
Brakemounts
Integrated Chain tensioners
Integrated seatpost clamp
14mm Dropouts 7mm thick
2.50 Tire clearance.
Tapared rear tri at dropout
« Last Edit: August 10, 2020, 08:25:32 PM by Truth Bmx »

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Re: TRUTH chromoly frame 3D drawings
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2020, 01:28:45 PM »
Here are a few more pics

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Re: TRUTH chromoly frame 3D drawings
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2020, 03:24:13 PM »
Nice, I like that you are offering the four TT sizes.

Is the rear end length measured to the center of the dropouts or to the very end of the dropouts?

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Re: TRUTH chromoly frame 3D drawings
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2020, 03:29:38 PM »
The rear is measured center to center

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Re: TRUTH chromoly frame 3D drawings
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2020, 04:06:33 PM »
Looks nice, you should offer it in that lime green.

Be very interested to see this come to life, my only niggle is the integrated seat clamp im not a fan of but thats just personal preference.

Good work!

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Re: TRUTH chromoly frame 3D drawings
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2020, 09:14:38 AM »
please explain the choice of these angles
 
7 mm thick dropouts is overkil by today standards (don't the makers use treated materials for frame parts nowadays?)
 
is it not possible to get something more inside tapered regarding the stays/dropouts connexions?
ie below some work from Pir

 


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Re: TRUTH chromoly frame 3D drawings
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2020, 10:12:49 AM »
How thick are the dropouts on frame in photo?   We received input from a few people. Are specs are good or bad???

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Re: TRUTH chromoly frame 3D drawings
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2020, 10:24:11 AM »
5 mm thick is sufficient. Also, the tapered dropouts are a must for todays modern rider. I would also recommend to make the rear end a bit shorter. 12.75 or so, center to center is good. Lastly, were you planning on including removable brake hardware? The 3D Pics appeared to have welded on guides & posts. Hope this helps...

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Re: TRUTH chromoly frame 3D drawings
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2020, 10:55:14 AM »
Yes the brake are removable not welded to frame. Also the 3D drawing does not show it but the dropout area is tapered. On my 2D drawing the tubing size is small at dropout.  Thanks for input. More is welcome

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Re: TRUTH chromoly frame 3D drawings
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2020, 12:37:54 PM »
I think the dropouts are 7mm thick due to the chain tensioners going THROUGH the center of the dropout

curious what the weight is?
Dax (now in LAS VEGAS as of July 2022)

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Re: TRUTH chromoly frame 3D drawings
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2020, 01:26:02 PM »
I personally like longer CS, any frame I've ever ridden below 13 I've completely hated - no good for back wheel tricks at all. 13.5 like the Rek frame is good. I'm not sure about the 68 ST angle either, might make getting behind the seat more difficult for things like cliffhangers and my experience with the quamen bowls frame also makes things like hang nothings more difficult.
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Re: TRUTH chromoly frame 3D drawings
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2020, 12:26:24 AM »
Metalbmxer is correct. We started off with 5mm dropouts when frame was first designed. What angle is all around good?  We will not know weight until frame is made. But I can ask manufacturer est weight.

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Re: TRUTH chromoly frame 3D drawings
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2020, 09:44:21 PM »
Why are the seat stays, so long and extend up the top tube?
This material on the TT is thinner than the ST , creating a worse join.
Also the added material only adds to useless weight

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Re: TRUTH chromoly frame 3D drawings
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2020, 01:18:08 PM »
The "truth" is, the probability that this frame actually ever makes it to production is around 3%.

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Re: TRUTH chromoly frame 3D drawings
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2020, 11:09:42 PM »
The "truth" is, the probability that this frame actually ever makes it to production is around 3%.

Even lower now that the economy has tanked
Dax (now in LAS VEGAS as of July 2022)