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Offline clint23

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Re: London Bikes DTT Frame Spy Pics
« Reply #60 on: May 09, 2013, 02:32:35 PM »


Slander ? Its a FACT. Is he or is he not registered ? I am man enough, if I'm wrong,I'll apologize  and always  remember this, you're judged by the company you keep. Just as you have the right to say what you just said, so do I.


https://records.txdps.state.tx.us/SexOffender/
Anyone who uses any information on this website to injure, harass, or for any other unlawful purpose may be subject to criminal prosecution or civil liability."


No one is denying he is registered. Two main lies propagated here again and again.


1. He was not convicted of distribution, but Possession Huge difference.
 
2. Money spent on buying London products supports this person. I have run the financial part of this company for the past 2 years and not one penny has been taken out of the company.


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Re: London Bikes DTT Frame Spy Pics
« Reply #61 on: May 09, 2013, 02:37:38 PM »
"to bring down the morale on the board"

where was the mods when we were bringing down the morale on the board when Chimera and KHE were selling us bad products? If anything we are giving props to London products.

saying I wont buy that product because its breaks and stuff is fine for a company. But saying I like there products and quality on them is amazing but I wont buy them because an employee is an O.S and that persons morels prevents them from buy the product is wrong?plus who am I going to believe. The Police records. Or some guy on a forum???With the VW statement I never knew that and I would buy a VW because it has changed hands since then and the person who gave those commands is gone. I'm English and get along fine with Germans. Hitler is gone. he was the one who did all the trouble and brain washed millions of people.In the end everyone has a choice in what they buy or dont buy. We should'nt be moded on stuff like this because it can affect their sales and rep. If that was the case where were you on the Chimera case then?
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Re: London Bikes DTT Frame Spy Pics
« Reply #62 on: May 09, 2013, 02:55:18 PM »
Dam!

Wipe the blood off  the knives and put them down......its nice out! Go ride!

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Re: London Bikes DTT Frame Spy Pics
« Reply #63 on: May 09, 2013, 03:00:42 PM »


Financial issues :
I am sorry to hear you haven't made a profit in the last 10 years.
Most companies that admit to losses wouldn't attempt to use such failures as a spring board in an attempt to gain market sympathy.

Byke
You can harp on this all you want. This part I am very proud of.  I have no need to profit from London and this means we get to make better products than anyone else. We do not have to cut corners the way other manufacturers do. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that no one can spend the time and money we do on our products and stay in business for profit.  London is about making sure quality flatland products are available regardless of the current financial state of the flatland community and if the market were to disappear we would continue to make parts for ourselves.  So if you think that slandering my company is going to make it go away, well have fun with that. We are not going anywhere.


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Re: London Bikes DTT Frame Spy Pics
« Reply #64 on: May 09, 2013, 03:53:03 PM »
"to bring down the morale on the board"

where was the mods when we were bringing down the morale on the board when Chimera and KHE were selling us bad products? If anything we are giving props to London products.

saying I wont buy that product because its breaks and stuff is fine for a company. But saying I like there products and quality on them is amazing but I wont buy them because an employee is an O.S and that persons morels prevents them from buy the product is wrong?plus who am I going to believe. The Police records. Or some guy on a forum???With the VW statement I never knew that and I would buy a VW because it has changed hands since then and the person who gave those commands is gone. I'm English and get along fine with Germans. Hitler is gone. he was the one who did all the trouble and brain washed millions of people.In the end everyone has a choice in what they buy or dont buy. We should'nt be moded on stuff like this because it can affect their sales and rep. If that was the case where were you on the Chimera case then?


The comment or idea that it brings down the morale was as mentioned "my humble opinion only". Yes parts breaking bring down morale too. No doubt about that and I kept asking Chimera to check, double check and triple check frames and parts before shipping. I also said multiple times if a company can't afford to ship parts both ways when there's a stuff up then they shouldn't be in business.  Thats unrelated to London as they don't have quality control problems.

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Re: London Bikes DTT Frame Spy Pics
« Reply #65 on: May 09, 2013, 05:16:04 PM »


Byke
You can harp on this all you want. This part I am very proud of.  I have no need to profit from London and this means we get to make better products than anyone else. We do not have to cut corners the way other manufacturers do. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that no one can spend the time and money we do on our products and stay in business for profit.  London is about making sure quality flatland products are available regardless of the current financial state of the flatland community and if the market were to disappear we would continue to make parts for ourselves.  So if you think that slandering my company is going to make it go away, well have fun with that. We are not going anywhere.


Clinton Majors
London Bikes Co-owner


Dear Mr Majors,
I am afraid your using words that are out of your depth.
You have now used the word slander for a second time (the first time you removed it after an edit) and I dont think you really have an understanding of the term itself or how it is used.


I believe the word you are hoping to use is in fact "Libel".
But in order for you to use such brash and obviously uneducated claims, I would suggest you look up the definition of the word first. Followed by an understanding of the manner to which it is applied.


As for the term "Harp" - Please your out of your depth.


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https://records.txdps.state.tx.us/SexOffender/Anyone who uses any information on this website to injure, harass, or for any other unlawful purpose may be subject to criminal prosecution or civil liability."



The term harass, is meaningless to highlight.
Unless you have an understanding of the law, in a sense greater than that of the misuse of definitions previously stated (See Libel).
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No one is denying he is registered. Two main lies propagated here again and again.1. He was not convicted of distribution, but Possession Huge difference.



I am afraid I digress, just the simple fact that a representative of a company was able to persuade or pressure (delete as applicable) global flat to censor a thread speaks volumes.


Possession was enough for the person you are referring to, to be subjected to a rather strong sentence.


And from the government website, and I quote :

"10 yrs CSCD for Poss. Promotion of Child Pornography"


Thats both a quote for Possession and PROMOTION relating to Child Pornography.
You are correct that the word is not "distribution", but there is a very thin line that separates the 2.


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Thats unrelated to London as they don't have quality control problems.



Any idea what happened to the thread from "SAKIS" regarding his broken bars? and numerous photos explaining on the board where they had broken and why he had been refused a warranty by London? eventually leading to the original thread being censored/removed and a subsequent back-pedalling by London. But only after numerous pages shown on here were needed to highlight the issue before they were warrantied?


After reviewing the search criteria it would appear that many threads regarding this particular brand have been either "moderated", deleted or removed.


Again, none of this would have escalated and bored the pants of the remaining few readers who havent jumped ship. Had this thread not been touched by a perverted hand in the hopes to censor.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2013, 05:31:32 PM by byke »

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Re: London Bikes DTT Frame Spy Pics
« Reply #66 on: May 09, 2013, 05:49:26 PM »
Strange I don't see anything misleading in my words, but we can let the board decide on this one.


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/slander

Definition of SLANDER

1 : the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation

Definition of HARASS

1 a :
exhaust, fatigue
   b (1) : to annoy persistently (2) : to create an unpleasant or hostile situation for especially by uninvited and unwelcome verbal or physical conduct


Definition of HARP

1 : to play on a harp

2 : to dwell on or recur to a subject tiresomely or monotonously —usually used with on

« Last Edit: May 09, 2013, 08:36:58 PM by clint23 »

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Re: London Bikes DTT Frame Spy Pics
« Reply #67 on: May 09, 2013, 06:03:32 PM »
This is what I want to know:
1. Do welds instead of bends hold up better to fatigue stress over the years?
2. Do any of you think the wide twin-tube spacing on the seat stays would feel weird on cliffhanger/crackhanger positions? Seems like it would be hitting your thighs and uncomfortable.
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Re: London Bikes DTT Frame Spy Pics
« Reply #68 on: May 09, 2013, 06:55:23 PM »
Interesting that you brought that up. I mentioned this before else where and I find that area to be helpful for cliffhangers as I learnt it with a platform, which I still ride, I'm old school I know. I also rest my knee on the wide area of my platform during forward death trucks. Though I don't know what a crack hanger is but would like to know.

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Re: London Bikes DTT Frame Spy Pics
« Reply #69 on: May 09, 2013, 07:29:34 PM »
No, just a reminder of facts. Karl, you have a kid or kids right?.... Cmon man..

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Re: London Bikes DTT Frame Spy Pics
« Reply #70 on: May 09, 2013, 08:16:02 PM »
ya know, If you both had just said I don't wish to buy their products for moral reasons and left it at that, there wouldn't have been an issue. You can say all you want to try to defend the statements made, but it was put out there in an inciteful and demeaning way.

It would be like saying to someone who was homosexual, "I won't judge you for being gay, you f**king c*cks*cker".

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« Reply #71 on: May 09, 2013, 09:33:57 PM »
ya know, If you both had just said I don't wish to buy their products for moral reasons and left it at that, there wouldn't have been an issue. You can say all you want to try to defend the statements made, but it was put out there in an inciteful and demeaning way.

It would be like saying to someone who was homosexual, "I won't judge you for being gay, you f**king c*cks*cker".

Couldn't have said it better.

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Re: London Bikes DTT Frame Spy Pics
« Reply #72 on: May 09, 2013, 10:12:39 PM »
Lol @ people talking sh*t about this dude. No one here has any idea whatsoever as to why he is on that registry and yet they're all acting like they do. The law f*cks people all the time. The law lies about people all the time. So f*ck these people who think they know anything about another dudes life and what he had to go through/put other people through. Just saying. And I've never even met this guy. Craziness.

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« Reply #73 on: May 09, 2013, 11:25:21 PM »
Lol @ people talking sh*t about this dude. No one here has any idea whatsoever as to why he is on that registry and yet they're all acting like they do. The law f*cks people all the time. The law lies about people all the time. So f*ck these people who think they know anything about another dudes life and what he had to go through/put other people through. Just saying. And I've never even met this guy. Craziness.

Well said bro.
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Re: London Bikes DTT Frame Spy Pics
« Reply #74 on: May 10, 2013, 12:22:47 AM »
its abit different from shouting at a policeman or being caught drinking in a public place and getting a fine and 20 hours community service. What my and Bykes problem is why his post got deleted? He said no names in it, said the time as been done by the person and loves there products.


All he said was my morels have stopped me from buy there products.


My post go deleted as I quoted his message and said I have emailed them before about a frame to be built but I never did it.


But someone complained and had it deleted even though it said no names in it. We find it unfair what the MODS have done on global NOT London bikes.


As some of you say you dont know the person, and yes I dont.


But would you get a term like that for not doing something bad?
 
I have nothing against him or anyone, I volunteer at the Salvation Army and clock in over 50 hours there a week. I work with people who are doing community hours for whatever is there reason its not my business. Same with him. But I still was debating on having a frame and parts made by them when I can work but how they have as a company reacted to this and how they dont need our money as they are non profit then fine I will have it made somewhere else where they dont have friends in high places to delete something they dont like.[size=78%] [/size]
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