^ getting sick of all the "they copied so and so" that seems to be going on. There is only so much a frame can be. Change some geo here, add a slight bend there... You don't hear this crap in the street market, and to my inexperienced eye they ALL look the same. But if you look at the tubing, geo, sizes etc you will see the differences.
Seems like just the other day everyone was moaning about not enough flat specific frames and now everyone is moaning that there are too many, or that everyone copies everyone.