Levi - I saw that link before. You might of posted it in another thread. It's funny. One second doing something can seem so complex, then you see how it goes and its like *click* wow that was easy. As far as getting it out, I guess I'll just try the round side of a ratchet or rubber mallet w a screw driver w cloth. The BB has been in there awhile so hopefully it's not hard to get out though I have a feeling it will be. word. and again thx!