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broken vandero
« on: October 14, 2008, 08:12:38 PM »
hub was 9 month old

what do u guys think about that. what could possibly cause that kind of crack. any opinion apreciated  :beer:
he he gues it`s my lucky week. allready broke a chain 3 days ago.

Offline jwnolte

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Re: broken vandero
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2008, 08:25:28 PM »
i blame radial lacing, but odyssey will sort you out no problem. email them that photo.

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Re: broken vandero
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2008, 08:26:10 PM »
first question, did you buy the wheel already built?

if you built it yourself those spokes in that area might have been tighter than the rest...

radial lacing is just as strong as any other lacing if all the spokes are tensioned equally...
« Last Edit: October 14, 2008, 08:29:13 PM by SIN »

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Re: broken vandero
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2008, 08:30:37 PM »
I've read around the forum a couple of days ago that different lacings will put stress on your hub.
I don't quite recall, but I think it had something to do with direct lacing, like radial and "crow's foot".

Check that out, it most certainly is due to the lacing type, maybe badly built wheel where more stress got concentrated over that area.




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Re: broken vandero
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2008, 10:38:09 PM »
I do not know how to explain it from a mechanical or engineering point of view, but radial lacing is to blame. Many hub manufacturers, especially MTB, warn not to radial lace aluminum hub flanges. It is a risk we take with flatland.

Odyssey is sooo good about warranties though that you still have a good chance of them taking care of it.
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Re: broken vandero
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2008, 10:40:22 PM »
Radial lacing caused it. It adds more stress to a smaller surface area of the flange. For example, the shock of an impact is directly forced onto a small area of the flange, whereas cross lacing like 3x {36} and 4x {48} distibutes the force over a larger area of the flanges.

For 36, try 3x.

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Re: broken vandero
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2008, 05:38:45 AM »
will do carl :beer:
allready talking with marco zamudio and have a feeling he will sort me out. hope for the best

Re: broken vandero
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2008, 05:40:28 AM »
I blew no less than 3/4 of a flange on one of these using cross-lacing but, all you've left us with is a photo of a broken Odyssey Vandero 1 laced x0. What were you doing when it happened?

By the way after a few e-mails and a photo or two Marco at Odyssey had me send him my failed Vandero for a replacement. Thanks Marco and Odyssey  :beer:.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2008, 05:44:53 AM by Alfreds SICK CHILD »

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Re: broken vandero
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2008, 02:39:55 PM »
i was doing my link and when turbined halfhikers all of a suden it just cracked :huh:

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Re: broken vandero
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2008, 08:06:42 PM »
jp, saw pete craked his hub. guess i will lace my next front wheel 3x  :beer:

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Re: broken vandero
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2008, 08:55:11 PM »
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Re: broken vandero
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2008, 09:03:35 PM »
^damn

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Re: broken vandero
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2008, 11:57:38 AM »
Yep, more than likely the radial lacing. I learned my lesson.

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Re: broken vandero
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2008, 12:04:37 PM »
lifes a bitch eh
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