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36h vs 48h
« on: July 16, 2008, 05:52:31 AM »
Just wondering how much of a difference it is going to make. As of now, they are just going to be for flatland, but I may consider street in the future. I am 5'9 140lbs btw.

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Re: 36h vs 48h
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2008, 06:01:16 AM »
48 spokers allll the way.

You're getting a stronger rim and 12 spokes isn't even worth mentioning weight wise. I think it's foolish to compromise the rim strength to shave off a small amount of weight from 12 spokes.

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Re: 36h vs 48h
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2008, 06:03:08 AM »
Well, I am not doing it to save weight. I dont give a sh*t bout weight. Im coming from a 37lb haro.

I am considering buying a used 36h wheelset with a nankai FC, because I have spent 2 months searching for a 3/8 wheelset, and this is my first find. Its the only thing keeping me from rolling...

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Re: 36h vs 48h
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2008, 06:09:52 AM »
Well, I am not doing it to save weight. I dont give a sh*t bout weight. Im coming from a 37lb haro.

I am considering buying a used 36h wheelset with a nankai FC, because I have spent 2 months searching for a 3/8 wheelset, and this is my first find. Its the only thing keeping me from rolling...

See that's a different story.. I thought you were starting from scratch and not considering a used set.

I would run a good set of 36 spokers if I found a good deal on them. But having both next to each other the 48 spokers are the preferred. There just stronger in a good 4 lace pattern.




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Re: 36h vs 48h
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2008, 06:17:33 AM »
Alright, cool.

Me only being 140 lbs, I dont think 12 spokes is gonna make 2 much of a difference?

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Re: 36h vs 48h
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2008, 10:21:38 AM »
You never need more than 36.

48 is wayyy overkill.

Most rims only come in 36h versions these days - goes to prove how strength really isnt sacrificed by losing those 12 spokes.

Ive been running 36h front and rear for over a year now, no problems and you dont have to maintain and true the wheel anymore than a 48h.
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Re: 36h vs 48h
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2008, 08:53:05 AM »
Most street pro are riding 36s, so i dont think should have any problem with that. :beer:

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Re: 36h vs 48h
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2008, 01:39:12 PM »
You never need more than 36.

48 is wayyy overkill.

Most rims only come in 36h versions these days - goes to prove how strength really isnt sacrificed by losing those 12 spokes.

Ive been running 36h front and rear for over a year now, no problems and you dont have to maintain and true the wheel anymore than a 48h.
i think it all depends of your tricks and your weight.
of course on 36 spokes you have to tight the spokes every now and then and on 48 you have to tight them... never.
so yeah if you want to light your wheel for 50 gramμs and make it more flexible go for 36 spokes.now if you want to make it 33% stronger its your choice.
i have 48 on the back and 36 on the front but i never touch my front wheel anymore,just backwheel tricks ..
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Re: 36h vs 48h
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2008, 02:58:17 PM »
It's an insignificant loss of weight for a massive loss of strength. It doesn't make any sense. George French only produces 36 spoke hubs because the demand is so high. He thinks it's a really bad idea.

However, the lighter hubs and rims only come in 36 so when you take that into account it's worth going there.

36 spoke wheels are probably strong enough for you. I ride a 36 spoke font wheel and a 48 spoke rear. The front requires a bit more maintenance but that's not a problem.

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Re: 36h vs 48h
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2008, 03:10:05 PM »
36 everytime
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Re: 36h vs 48h
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2008, 03:14:42 PM »
I rode 48 hole Super Pros since the 80's they were great rims. I also rode 48 hole 7x which I always killed. Now I am riding 36 hole rims (Sun Rhyno Lite XL for flat & Primo Balance 6061 for park) I have had no problems w/ my 36 hole rims. I think rims are stronger now than they used to be. But its your choice.

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Re: 36h vs 48h
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2008, 07:12:39 AM »

now if you want to make it 33% stronger its your choice.


I realize that 48 spokes is 33% more than 36 spokes, but the rim, hub, tire and tube all contribute to strength.  You'd have to measure the bending resistance of the parts individually to determine the actual difference of a 36 spoke to a 48 spoke.  I'd venture to guess its less than 5%. 

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Re: 36h vs 48h
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2008, 07:19:29 PM »

now if you want to make it 33% stronger its your choice.


I realize that 48 spokes is 33% more than 36 spokes, but the rim, hub, tire and tube all contribute to strength.  You'd have to measure the bending resistance of the parts individually to determine the actual difference of a 36 spoke to a 48 spoke.  I'd venture to guess its less than 5%. 

5%??where did you find this?
well the topic says 36 vs 48 ..
so if you have 2 wheels with exactly the same parts one with 36 s and one with 48 s the second one  will be 33% stronger..
by the way,i am learning/doing turbine tricks,spinning tricks,scuffing tricks,pedal tricks etc.
i never tight my spokes..
its like a tight them yesterday..
but seriously why would you go with 36 spokes and 10 mm axle on a backwheel ??
for 100 gr lighter??
and bend/brake axles all the time..





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Re: 36h vs 48h
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2008, 01:57:13 AM »
i was going to do that because i have been searching for a FC wheelset for 2 months now and someone offered to sell me a 36h wheelset. i did not buy and am still looking for a wheelset...

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Re: 36h vs 48h
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2008, 02:16:23 AM »
so how much do you guys running 36h wheels weigh? I will be in the market for a new custom wheelset soon and thought about running 36s....Im 5 7" and about 165lbs, is that too heavy for 36s and someone that puts a bike through alot?