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Title: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: mare on November 18, 2007, 10:18:55 AM
hey

is there big diefrence in strenght between 14mm or 10 mm axles, cause I can`t decide between 14 mm or 10 mm dropuot frame ?


thanks and go ride
Title: Re: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: Andy Marsh(Mallow) on November 18, 2007, 05:50:04 PM
If you get a 14mm frame, you can always get 10mm spacers if you decide to get a 10mm axle instead of a 14mm axle.  If you get a 10mm frame, 10mm is all you're going to be able to run.

I ride 10mm myself with no problems riding flat.  If all you do is flatland, 10mm is the way to go.  If you ride any street, get 14mm.
Title: Re: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: Yoda on November 18, 2007, 07:16:22 PM
Yes 10mm (3/8) for flat, or racing.  14mm came out when street started getting big, and riders were breaking axles and stuff.  It's like chains too when 3/32 was normal then 1/8 then even 3/16 for beefy street riding.  Unless you are really hard on parts or love to slam your bike a lot stay with 10mm.
Title: Re: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: out~riding on November 19, 2007, 03:30:18 PM
14mm axles apeared in the 90's, there much stronger but they are also heavier.
Its up to you to choose between strength and weight.
Title: Re: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: Paradoxium on November 20, 2007, 10:00:31 AM
I know of taller riders that bend 3/8 axles, and have to run 14mm as a result. Usually 3/8 is perfect for flat, but it also depends on your weight and type of tricks.
Just get a frame with 14mm dropouts as already mentioned, and then if you want bigger axles , you can.  Geisha hubs are good like this, 3/8 OR 14mm.
Title: Re: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: darkwave101 on November 21, 2007, 05:42:59 PM
i run 14mm hollow axels frnt and bck since im a clumsy fck and seem to bend 10mm
Title: Re: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: AK on November 22, 2007, 06:38:59 AM
  14mm is alot stronger..A good 10mm axle holds up great though..Unless your a big dude..
Title: Re: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: mare on November 24, 2007, 01:44:05 PM
and what are the frames with 14mm dropouts cause i can`t find them. Exept ares frames
Title: Re: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: Revig on November 24, 2007, 03:14:23 PM
Quote from: mare on November 24, 2007, 01:44:05 PM
and what are the frames with 14mm dropouts cause i can`t find them. Exept ares frames

Try Quamen frames.
KHE RIP frame have 14 mm dropouts too.

Otherwise, you can cut the dropouts to make them ok for 14mm axles.
As a example, the dropouts of St Martin frames have cutting lines for 14 mm slot.
Title: Re: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: mare on December 15, 2007, 11:58:23 AM
how dou you switch your axle ? i mean if you runing 14mm axle and you want to change on 10mm but on the same hub? is that possible ?


thanks and go riding
Title: Re: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: Paradoxium on December 15, 2007, 12:04:33 PM
This is possible with the geisha freecoaster because it has a 14mm inner axle and it is available with 14mm OR 10mm axle stubs. If you look at them on FF, you will see how it works.
Title: Re: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: out~riding on December 15, 2007, 01:29:30 PM
This photo will help understand it better.
The studs (10 or 14mm) screw on to the inner axle.

(http://www.isondistribution.co.uk/ison/image/complete/hukh-stubaxle.jpg)
Title: Re: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: Gido on December 15, 2007, 02:30:00 PM
Quote from: mare on December 15, 2007, 11:58:23 AM
how dou you switch your axle ? i mean if you runing 14mm axle and you want to change on 10mm but on the same hub? is that possible ?


thanks and go riding

With this question I would think you are a beginner. So a 10mm axle is way strong enough if you donīt through your bike around and if you donīt weight over 100kg.

It is a question of the weight of the hub. If you find a light 14mm you can also use that. Function is equal
Title: Re: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: gibbo on December 15, 2007, 03:13:24 PM
I just got a sinus 07 frame(10mm dropouts)and couldn't get one of my axle stubs out of my rear geisha to change them to 10s, so ground out the dropouts to 14mm and it works perfect.I also did this with my last frame(Ares Choice aluminium)and rode it for a year with no problems whatsoever.
Title: Re: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: MING on December 15, 2007, 03:26:46 PM
Im thinking of purchasing a St Martin Class X and have the same prob 14mm Axel and a 10mm drop out.The good thing is the St Martin frames come with cutting marks so Ive been told. My question is which is the best way of removing the excess metal? Grinding or cutting????
Title: Re: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: h_man on December 15, 2007, 04:59:42 PM
Quote from: AK on November 22, 2007, 06:38:59 AM
  14mm is alot stronger..A good 10mm axle holds up great though..Unless your a big dude..

I run a rear 10mm G  Sport monkey hub no freecoaster i'm 190lbs (13st 7lbs) i'm a big guy & it ain't busted yet made in Sheffield UK strong as you like. ;D
Title: Re: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: PeterJ on December 16, 2007, 08:59:18 PM
The new ClassX is designed with the option for cutting the dropouts to 14mm so that should be no problem.
I do not know what the best way is to cut em out.
Title: Re: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: scott on December 16, 2007, 09:28:13 PM
I've ridden both 14mm & 10mm -  it doesn't matter because I stopped bending axles when I stopped doing grinds.  flatland alone shouldn't bend either axle.

I like 14mm hollow axles.  a good combo of strong & light.
Title: Re: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: timk4130 on December 17, 2007, 08:39:21 AM
like everyone has mentioned here,
it is your choice,
personally i ride everything, and have switched back to using all 14mm  axels(screw on adapters for my back hub) and i have had no complaints ,and there isnt that much  of a weight diffrence either.

i dont think it was mentioned  though , but  if you are looking  to get new pegs , or have  the same ones that  are still useable , it is very easy to drill them out, or  if you order parts from flatland fuel, im sure pat could get them drilled out for you aswell, and if you ever go back to  a 10mm/3/8'' axle a adapter can also solve that problem.
hope this helped!!!

tk
Title: Re: 14mm vs 10 mm axle ?
Post by: flatbmxman22 on December 31, 2007, 04:01:42 AM
ive got a 10mm and i ride some flat aswell as some street occasionally and it dont get beat down on big drops..tho thats prolly cuz i am not a big heavy guy..at the end of the yer 10mm is best for flat and 14 is best for street..