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Title: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: aliasdck on February 18, 2019, 12:10:57 AM
I need some new tires but haven't bought any in a long time. I prefer tires in the 1.75 range. I've mostly used Odyssey Frequency Gs and KHE premium foldable tires.


I checked flatlandfuel and the KHE are out of stock but they do carry the Odyssey frequency Gs.


Before I place an order was just curious what everyone is using these days. I noticed the Ares A-Class tires seem popular but they recommend a rim between 22-25mm, mine measure around 32mm so I'm thinking not a good idea.


Weight is not a big deciding factor for me, just mostly want a good tire that won't wear out super quick.
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: Timmer74 on February 18, 2019, 08:36:08 AM
ha! I was just on a plane flight thinking about tires and what everybody else rides and all that...

I love the Ares tires. However, they're pretty expensive and I tend to wear them down pretty quickly. Though, I have not tried the newer ones that are supposed to be longer lasting. For what it's worth, I was riding them on the Odyssey Hazard Lite rims and they did fine. However, you need to pay attention to the bead as you blow them up. I ruined a brand new tire (doh!) and nearly gave myself a heart attack when I pumped a tire up to 110+psi and it popped off the rim. That shredded the casing around the bead (these were the wire bead version).


I did ride the frequency Gs for a bit and when I would switch between the Ares and Odyssey, the Odyssey's felt so slow to me. But, some people find the Ares to be too quick too.

Right now, I'm riding the Box Hex tires and I really like them. While they're not cheap, they're not as expensive as the Ares and they're sold more places here in the states. But, they roll fast and feel pretty tacky on the ground (without the sluggish feeling I got from the Frequency G's). If you decide to try them there's a dude on BMX Museum selling a PAIR (20x1.75") for pretty much the same price as a single tire. I bought my first pair from him and he got them to me quickly...https://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/288393

I've wanted to check out the KHE's too but, yeah, they seem very hard to find (at least in the states). The Primo E-Comet looks interesting to me since my favorite time is when the tires are bald down the middle.

Anyway, I'll be curious to see what the other people on here say!
Tim


Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: Flatism® on February 18, 2019, 09:43:43 PM
Seems there is not much choice these days...
Are DOM tyres no more...?
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: quixnet99 on February 19, 2019, 07:02:59 AM
Dom Tires are still around. In fact, I just messaged Dom this week & he wants to release a  20 X 1.75 width. I told him that would be a super popular choice! If you need a pair, I have them. I got a bunch from Dom in a bulk order.
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: Revig on February 19, 2019, 09:31:42 AM
Dom Tires are still around. In fact, I just messaged Dom this week & he wants to release a  20 X 1.75 width. I told him that would be a super popular choice! If you need a pair, I have them. I got a bunch from Dom in a bulk order.

what? you said super popular? where are you living/riding?
Sorry no, popular size for flatland these days is 1.90, or more
(yeah, like 20 years ago  O0 )
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: aliasdck on February 19, 2019, 07:11:26 PM
Timmer74, now that you mention it my favorite time is when the tires are getting bald too. I actually really hate the first few days after installing new tires, balance and spinning just feel off until the tires get sufficiently worn in.

I figured skinner tires would be more popular these days? Maybe not. I've been running 1.75s for so long I've forgotten what a larger tire, like a 1.9, even feels like. Maybe I should give a larger tire a spin
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: metalbmxer on February 20, 2019, 05:56:39 AM
Well Sean has a point that a larger size Dom tire would be more popular than the current size Dom tire (1.6 is it?) but yeah Revig is spot on saying that the 1.9 / bigger sizes are where a lot of the sales seem to be. I’m super happy with the 1.9 Ares btw. Can’t help but wonder how the 1.85 freq G’s would feel compared to them. Always like the tread profile of the 1.85 compared to the 1.75’s btw
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: DaddyCool on February 20, 2019, 08:45:25 PM
Hello,
KHE Mac 1 can still be bought directly from KHE (don't know about the shipping to other countries than Germany):https://www.khebikes.com/bmx-teile/reifen/khe-mac/659-khe-mac1-faltreifen-e6
I used these since they came out (I think in 2005). I remember coming from 1.85" they felt strange in the beginning and I needed several sessions to adapt. Later I tried a 1.85" Frequency G on a friends bike and it felt super slow! So I kept using narrow tires (lately DOM tires).Maybe I should give 1.9" another try because my riding changed over the years. Basically I ride sketchier today because of a lack of practise.So I would say the width that is good for you depends on your riding style, your tricks and personal preference. Just try it out...
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: bmxelement90 on February 20, 2019, 08:46:01 PM
get with the times, 2.4 tires are where its at!!!!

nah i'm kidding, that's dumb. s&m makes flatland friendly tires as does tioga (streetblock, not powerblock)
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: Flatism® on February 20, 2019, 08:55:58 PM
I struggle to find 1.95 Streetblocks !?
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: CircleK on February 21, 2019, 09:01:59 AM
Colony make the Exon tire in 1.75. They are cheap and for me they were a nice tire to ride. They do wear a bit quicker than freq gs though I found but for the price against other tires they stack up
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: aliasdck on February 22, 2019, 10:29:50 PM
Thanks for tips guys. I ended up getting the frequency Gs but I think I'm also going to buy something different for my next set. The box hex tires look good as well as some of the DOMs.

I'll also check out those colony exon tires circlek mentioned. I could use a few cheap pairs of tires because one of my spots is too rough which wears tires too quick
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: quixnet99 on February 23, 2019, 12:50:38 PM
I'm currently riding the Box Tires in 1.75 & really like them. They have good grip & low rolling resistance & I run 120 psi in them.
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: yoshi175 on February 26, 2019, 06:18:34 AM
Currently riding MAXXIS Torch Folding Tires 1.75. These are the longest lasting tires I've used. I had the Primo E-comets, they are cheap, but for a reason, they don't last.
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: aliasdck on May 08, 2019, 03:47:55 AM
Grrr, the threads are starting to show on my front odyssey frequency g, so it's time for a new tires again. This is the quickest I've worn through a frequency g, in about 2 months. But it actually seems like the threads are showing quicker than they should, I think this tire was just from a sh*tty batch. I've even had a couple threads poking through the inside in two places, I had to line the inside of the tire with duct tape to prevent the tube from getting punctured by them. So I think this particular tire is just a sh*tty one.

I think I might give the area a class a try. I'm used to 1.75 but might go with 1.9 for a change.
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: metalbmxer on May 08, 2019, 05:11:07 AM
Oh jeez well consider it good riddance and move on from the FreqG’s. The Ares is the best feeling tire out there. And the 1.90 size is so solid.
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: masonmar on May 08, 2019, 01:29:58 PM
If you’re use to a 1.75” size you might want to try the Ares 1.75”. It actually measures close to 1.88” and the Ares 1.90” measures a little over 2.1”.
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: aliasdck on May 08, 2019, 08:13:49 PM
Thanks for the advice guys, I'll try the 1.75 first.
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: aliasdck on May 17, 2019, 08:32:23 PM
I'm loving the ares tire. Spins great, perfect amount of grippyness and is shaped good so it feels nice rolling in both straight lines and in circles.. Doesn't require a break in period like the frequency g do.

Tread is way thinner then the frequency g so I suspect it won't last as long. Let's see how long it lasts, my last frequency g took about 2 months before the threads started showing.
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: pitdog504 on May 30, 2019, 06:43:18 PM
Dom Tires are still around. In fact, I just messaged Dom this week & he wants to release a  20 X 1.75 width. I told him that would be a super popular choice! If you need a pair, I have them. I got a bunch from Dom in a bulk order.

what? you said super popular? where are you living/riding?
Sorry no, popular size for flatland these days is 1.90, or more
(yeah, like 20 years ago  O0 )

What are you jumping off 20 stair gaps and garage roofs?!?! Anything over 1.85 is useless for flat.
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: aliasdck on May 30, 2019, 08:22:11 PM
I dunno 1.9ish still seems good to me, though I do prefer smaller.

Back in late 90s when I was practicing rolling tricks in straight long lines, like jugglers down a slight hill for example, I used to use 2.1 primo wallls. Seemed to help somewhat with maintaining the balance.
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: aliasdck on June 04, 2019, 05:49:38 PM
The sidewall of the ares tire blew out on me today  >:(


(https://i.imgur.com/Y9e2wWm.jpg)


But I was using it on a wider rim then recommended and I had it pumped up to 135 psi , so I guess I cant complain too much.


I was really liking the tire too.
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: metalbmxer on June 05, 2019, 06:29:07 AM
Quick tip on those: keep it under 125 psi or if you do whoppers, 120 psi
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: DaddyCool on June 05, 2019, 07:36:06 PM
Hi, I had a similar problem with a DOM tire years ago. After discussing with Dominik who kindly replaced it, we agreed that the reason might have been that burr/rough area on the rim damaged the tire. I ground my rim with sand paper and it didn't happen again. It still could have been a bad batch, but maybe you can check your rims.With the same rim it never happened to me with KHE tires, so I think that some tire are stronger in that region than others...
Title: Re: Flatland tires in 2019
Post by: aliasdck on June 06, 2019, 02:50:44 AM
Quick tip on those: keep it under 125 psi or if you do whoppers, 120 psi

I won't be going over 120 next time, not sure why I pushed it to 135

Hi, I had a similar problem with a DOM tire years ago. After discussing with Dominik who kindly replaced it, we agreed that the reason might have been that burr/rough area on the rim damaged the tire. I ground my rim with sand paper and it didn't happen again. It still could have been a bad batch, but maybe you can check your rims.With the same rim it never happened to me with KHE tires, so I think that some tire are stronger in that region than others...


Thanks I'll take a closer look at the inside of the rim just in case. I looked originally and didn't see anything but admittedly I didn't inspect very closely.

I think though that I just pushed the psi too high. I rode for 2.5 weeks at 120 psi with no problem. Then yesterday I pump it up to 135, go ride and 10 minutes later it explodes during backwards rolling hang 5.