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Title: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: Mr News Bot on July 23, 2013, 10:26:58 PM

Check out what Effraim spotted on Terry's bike. It's a hinged Odyssey Flatware stem. Apart from those rusty screw's it looks sexy ;-) How do you like it?
(http://www.global-flat.com/upload/media/2013-07-23-22-22-59flatware38.jpg)
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: TRUTH1970 on July 24, 2013, 12:06:33 PM
I want this! ,been holding back on new stem ( been on bizhouse xl for years and its knackerd) and ive been after a not so short/long stem and now boom- hope the back is smooth? cant wait
 
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: ortho on July 24, 2013, 04:11:32 PM
Well it's not smooth exactly as it has the two-bolt system on the back, which is kind of a bummer.
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: out~riding on July 24, 2013, 05:47:16 PM
Besides the reach, an important detail on flatland stems is the "smoothness" and sadly it's overlooked in most cases.

In this case the gimmick of the chain link plates was more important...

The funny thing is that the Lincoln and Tomahawk stem actually have a smooth back... and they mention it: "The stemís fully internal clamp design also means that the back of the body can be bolt-free, and knee-friendly."

So now they design a flatland stem that's NOT knee-friendly, precisely the design feature that's most important to flatlanders...
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: Rad255 on July 24, 2013, 08:30:56 PM
I prefer the two bolts in the back. I ran the Tomahawk for months and it just slips and slips. And if you try to tighten it up more the internals bend up and/or it dents your steer tube.
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: ortho on July 24, 2013, 08:44:56 PM
I have an impression that the two-bolt system is probably a more safe dependable design, like what Rad is saying. I've been using my KHE Minimalism with the smooth back for 3 years now and it doesn't slip. I'm probably the only person who likes that stem or hasn't have it disintegrate on them though. Have you heard about the S&M Redneck slipping? I like that stem too, but now that i've tried 35mm+ stems I really like that size over the short 25mm ish stems.
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: MAYTRICKS on July 25, 2013, 07:20:25 PM
 
I hope this isn't going to be the next Flatware stem. I don't like anything about it. It might feel great because of the reach and rise option but stems aren't cheap so I'd want a little more out of it. If I can buy  another stem that just looks better or isn't just a shorter BMX stem and not a flatland specific stem, I don't see any reason not to buy it over this.
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: Flatland318 on July 25, 2013, 09:49:49 PM
I love my flatware stem. I was running bar stem combos (KHE Swiss Miss) for the longest but finally switched been fantastic.
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: ortho on July 26, 2013, 04:00:56 AM
Well they make other great parts, bless their hearts.
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: Budz is still broken on July 27, 2013, 04:53:38 PM
That's MY design! >:( Thanks Odyssey.  ::)
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: PSchoolen on July 27, 2013, 06:10:18 PM
What do you guys think about a 38-40mm reach Tree Collet stem? (http://www.treebicycleco.com/blog_images/parts/colletstem/colletstem.jpg)http://www.treebicycleco.com/collet-stem/ (http://www.treebicycleco.com/collet-stem/)
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: back2flat35 on July 27, 2013, 06:20:08 PM
i really would like a 38-40 fl stem with rounded edges.built tough to with no gimmicks or wedges:)
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: ortho on July 27, 2013, 06:29:18 PM
Whoa I hadn't seen the Tree Collet before. I'm going to need a minute to adjust my brain because right now that thing looks crazy. I'm definitely intrigued.
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: TRUTH1970 on July 27, 2013, 06:37:59 PM
that 38/40mm Tree stem may just be the best looking stem ever! any feed back on how well they grip the bars/forks?
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: ortho on July 27, 2013, 07:07:53 PM
Check out this video on the installation:

http://player.vimeo.com/video/21040340?portrait=0 (http://player.vimeo.com/video/21040340?portrait=0)

Since I ride a front brake I was worried I'd have to take the cable all apart every time I changed or removed my bars (which isn't that often I guess), but according to the video I could leave the cable in place and keep the compression bolt on because the top plate of the stem is not held down by the comp bolt/fork cap.

NEAT
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: ortho on July 27, 2013, 07:11:13 PM
I'm digging this top load version as well:

http://www.treebicycleco.com/top-load-collet-stem/ (http://www.treebicycleco.com/top-load-collet-stem/)

Are they considering make both of these in 38-40mm size?

Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: Phatman on July 28, 2013, 01:00:50 AM
I have a Tree Collet Stem going on new Street bike, Thing is DIALED, really beautiful when you have it in your hands, it feels really i don't know how to describe it umm... Sturdy? I actually asked Tree a few weeks back about the possibility of a shorter version & their reply was... They really like supporting the Flatland community, nothing is in the works right now but!.. Don't count anything out for the future.


Pat, when you mentioned about the shorter Collet were you hinting to something in the works or were you just throwing the design out there for guys to look at?
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: PSchoolen on July 28, 2013, 04:46:56 AM
It may be in the works. Tree and I have talked about a stem in the past and now that more flat riders are riding longer stems, a shorter Collet may just work. Its a great design. I appreciate everyones feedback. Keep it coming.
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: ortho on July 28, 2013, 05:43:15 AM
I just bashed my knee on the bolt on my Colony TLD stem today which I just installed this week. I dig that stem but the bolts suck. Bring on something else.
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: TRUTH1970 on July 29, 2013, 01:56:54 PM
if they do make a 38mm/40mm stem please make it a topload one.
 
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: Paradoxium on July 30, 2013, 03:22:20 PM
I like 38mm for flat, and 40mm - 45mm for park, so the increased interest in the mid range stems sounds good to me. The most comfy rear end of any stem was the last Quamen macross 26mm. So rounded and knee friendly, best design ever, just way too short.
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: Mr.Archon on July 30, 2013, 06:17:27 PM
that 38/40mm Tree stem may just be the best looking stem ever! any feed back on how well they grip the bars/forks?
YES!!! that is the best looking stem ever made!
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: bhaverchuck on July 30, 2013, 06:53:14 PM
Sending a request for 38mm Tree stem. Clean design.
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: Flatland318 on July 30, 2013, 09:45:25 PM
That is amazing!!! and damn right sexy.....
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: byke on July 31, 2013, 02:45:00 AM
We need more 40's
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: out~riding on August 07, 2013, 01:25:51 PM
Found on the merged, http://themerged.com/odyssey-38mm-lincoln-stem/ (http://themerged.com/odyssey-38mm-lincoln-stem/)

it looks like it will be labeled Odyssey and not Flatware.
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: wolverines on August 07, 2013, 04:30:20 PM
If I had a choice I would give my money to tree.

Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: metalbmxer on August 07, 2013, 04:54:00 PM
Found on the merged, [url]http://themerged.com/odyssey-38mm-lincoln-stem/[/url] ([url]http://themerged.com/odyssey-38mm-lincoln-stem/[/url])

it looks like it will be labeled Odyssey and not Flatware.



Saw this too, and I think it's a good idea. With the odyssey label it has more sales potential as opposed to the strictly flatland branding. With the advent of more flat inspired street it should hopefully catch on!
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: Phatman on August 07, 2013, 08:24:50 PM
Heres the Drop Load Street Version on my Benny L...


(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b265/Hodge_Pig/BennyNW005_zps58ed8307.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/Hodge_Pig/media/BennyNW005_zps58ed8307.jpg.html)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b265/Hodge_Pig/BennyNW006_zps9efbfc03.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/Hodge_Pig/media/BennyNW006_zps9efbfc03.jpg.html)


The Stem is fully installed, there is a gap between the 2 Stem plates when the bolts tighten down. The Collet piece drops down bellow the bottom piece slightly when its fully tight. It's a GREAT stem, If i could get a shorter version i would totally be down to buy one!
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: xsjadorider on August 08, 2013, 05:20:56 PM



Hey guys I run the tree collet topload on my flatland bike, it slipped because of me not installing it properly but now ive installed it properly it hasn't slipped and its so solid! And the rounded back is incredible! Yes I hope they make a shorter version too. Sorry this is the only close up of my bike I have at the moment.




(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7292/9466842070_0a6f98a6ac.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/99114485@N02/9466842070/)
2013-08-04-19-42-32 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/99114485@N02/9466842070/#) by xsjado_rider (http://www.flickr.com/people/99114485@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: MaineOnePlus3 on August 09, 2013, 07:43:26 PM
The Collet stems are being discontinued from what Ive heard, and are on sale for like 40 or so bucks most places with them in stock.  I almost bought one, but I like the ease of switching out bars, if needed.  I was also told the may create a 35mm version in a few months. I'll pick one of those up for sure though.
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: ortho on August 09, 2013, 08:05:43 PM
I was about to write Tree and ask them if they'd consider making a shorter one but... their website is down.

http://www.treebicycleco.com (http://www.treebicycleco.com)

That's a pretty bad sign.
Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: MaineOnePlus3 on August 09, 2013, 08:52:46 PM
As I said, they just told me that they are planning a 35mm stem.  The site being down, who knows but I doubt it's anything too serious.


Title: Re: Odyssey Flatware 38mm Hinged Stem
Post by: ortho on August 09, 2013, 09:29:32 PM
Just saw that their Facebook page was updated on Tuesday, so yeah, i'm sure you're right. I shouldn't have been so alarmist, lol.