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Title: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: i_cant_ride on December 01, 2012, 07:15:12 PM
Hey everyone! I recently had a frame custom made by Standard and I couldn't be happier with the outcome. Apparently Rick Moliterno is also very pleased with how the frame turned out and he is now looking to make a production version of my frame. I kinda want to just gauge interest in the flatland world so I can give Rick some input.
Here are the specs: 18.5" top tube, 12.75" chainstay, 75° head angle, 71° seat angle, low stand over height, 11.8" Bb height,removable brake hardware, 0.49 ox platinum tubing, integrated head tube, mid bb. Any thoughts on what you guys maybe interested in seeing in a production version?
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: Phatman on December 01, 2012, 07:25:14 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: i_cant_ride on December 01, 2012, 07:27:39 PM
Also forgot to mention that Rick wants to make a couple different sizes ands wants input from the flatland world of what they might want to see
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: risha73 on December 01, 2012, 08:08:31 PM
rear dropouts like the stmartin frames. welded on the inside giving feet full clearance
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: Phatman on December 01, 2012, 08:19:00 PM
19.25"/19.5" with a 13" Back end would sell like hot cakes!
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: metalbmxer on December 01, 2012, 08:27:07 PM
Awesome! Cost? Need more pics! Looks great though
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: Phatman on December 01, 2012, 08:40:38 PM
Also DO NOT use removable mounts. Welded mounts or no mounts.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: i_cant_ride on December 01, 2012, 08:42:13 PM
I'm not certain of the price yet. More details will be available when production is closer
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: ortho on December 01, 2012, 10:23:26 PM
Looks great from here, but I'd love to see more pix of the rear end. I'd vote for an 18.7" size.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: DLK on December 01, 2012, 11:26:32 PM
Longer dropouts. Enough to be able to ride your wheel without slamming it while running tensioners.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: HighLander on December 02, 2012, 01:38:45 AM
Another straight tube bmx frame. Please make it a bit more stylish.No need to be a super bent tube but at least a raised head tube with gusset like the Standard Tao.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: metalbmxer on December 02, 2012, 01:59:28 AM
Another straight tube bmx frame. Please make it a bit more stylish.No need to be a super bent tube but at least a raised head tube with gusset like the Standard Tao.

Or the pierced seat tube/top tube junction!
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: HighLander on December 02, 2012, 02:19:56 AM
Another straight tube bmx frame. Please make it a bit more stylish.No need to be a super bent tube but at least a raised head tube with gusset like the Standard Tao.

Or the pierced seat tube/top tube junction!

Yes,that too!! :beer:
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: K.Wong on December 02, 2012, 10:14:37 AM
don't get me wrong, sbc fan here; but it's..... kind'a ho-hum, lazy even.

there's nothing to distinguish it visually from run-of-the-mill taiwanese/ generic usa-made diamond frame other than the stickers.
(think of mercedes, porsche >> sta or tao's gusset style)

the geometry is pretty standard (pun unintended), it's not anti-rust treated and if it's priced above flatware's tango, waltz v2, jungle rider's holiday, i don't see a big market for it like the shorty and tao was for standard bykes.

and if ox platinium is as strong as it is, why 0.49 tubing thickness throughtout? heavy won't it be?
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: byke on December 02, 2012, 12:06:47 PM
I really like the white decals on RAW.
How is the rear dropouts in regards to the end caps of the chain and seat stays?
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: DaddyCool on December 02, 2012, 03:03:06 PM
Hi,

it looks nice from what I can see. I personally like removable mounts and do not see problems with it. Definitely the dropout should be long! At least like they are on the Flatware frames. The short size of the dropouts of the S&M frames are a killer argument for me not to buy one of these.
I also would prefer Spanish BB.
19.25" TT or a littel longer would be nice, CS around 13"... HT 75 or 74.5 for TJ  ;D

Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: i_cant_ride on December 02, 2012, 03:28:50 PM
Keep the input coming guys! For those concerned with weight, mine weighed in at 3lbs 15oz before powder. This thing is plenty light.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: i_cant_ride on December 02, 2012, 03:32:51 PM
Keep in mind, this is MY custom. The actual production version will vary based on the input given.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: wolverines on December 02, 2012, 04:13:49 PM
I really like the white decals on RAW.


me too
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: Joshua S. on December 02, 2012, 04:36:40 PM
HOLY CRAP! THAT'S A NICE RIDE i_cant_ride!

don't get me wrong, sbc fan here; but it's..... kind'a ho-hum, lazy even.
there's nothing to distinguish it visually from run-of-the-mill taiwanese/ generic usa-made diamond frame other than the stickers.
(think of mercedes, porsche >> sta or tao's gusset style)
the geometry is pretty standard (pun unintended), it's not anti-rust treated and if it's priced above flatware's tango, waltz v2, jungle rider's holiday, i don't see a big market for it like the shorty and tao was for standard bykes.
and if ox platinium is as strong as it is, why 0.49 tubing thickness throughtout? heavy won't it be?

Hey, have you ever ridden a Standard Frame? They are solid. They feel better than any Taiwan frame I've ridden. I went with them because they can get them lighter than Taiwan frames and still be stronger.
Just a question, what is boring, lazy, standard about it? It has everything the frames have today. And if they do hit the market, which is full of clones, how many people would jump at a chance to get one? Did you see the Standard Bykes post awhile back? Alot of people were wanted Rick to build one.
The S&M Intrikat frame came out awhile back and people are STILL buying those up. Riders know quality when they see it.
 I recently went to the Trans Jam BMX Contest in Greenville, NC and there were at least 4 people that had them. The Intrikat has everything that frames have today and even the extra tube at the downtube for clearance but Stronger. It's simple, up to date, and solid/strong. I would take that over stylish bent tube frame any day/everyday. Plus, it's handmade in the USA!
Thanks!
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: OldYeller on December 02, 2012, 08:09:59 PM
I personally like removable mounts and do not see problems with it. Definitely the dropout should be long! At least like they are on the Flatware frames. The short size of the dropouts of the S&M frames are a killer argument for me not to buy one of these.


I've got to agree on the dropouts.  The ones on the Intrikat are useless, they could have just drilled holes in them.


I realize I'm in the minority, but I've seen several people getting customs with longer chainstays because of this.


It doesn't seem like a huge market, but having dropouts with room for adjustment would sure help.


Now that someone pointed out the size of the Flatware drops, it's back on my radar along with the Ketch Karma (13.6" cs).


I'm fine with removable mounts too.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: byke on December 02, 2012, 11:31:57 PM
I went with them because they can get them lighter than Taiwan frames and still be stronger.

God you spew some rhetorical bullsh*t, jingo bollocks at times.
But rather than get into an argy bargy on your statement.
Simply prove your statement instead of quoting other people. Use facts.

Taiwan is a country, and SBC is a single frame builder.
Claiming that 1 frame builder is better than a whole nation consisting of numerous materials, technology, experienced labour is better than 1 company using a stock material is retarded.

You knowledge and statements on manufacturing is extremely naive.
Especially if you base performance purely on 1 material.

Yes SBC make nice simple frames.
But claiming they can make stronger and lighter frames than the whole industry in Taiwan is dumb.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: suicidepan on December 03, 2012, 12:03:00 AM
I designed a flatland frame for rick to build me eight months ago and this looks like a copy of my frame with very slight differences. Not trying to burst your bubble but .............
  This is my new full custom Standard "Super D" flatland frame designed by me. I`ve been wanting a frame built to my specs for a long long time and after alittle over eight months of waiting patiently I now have it !!! This is probably without a doubt the smallest flatland frame Standard has ever built and is one of only five in existence with the custom headtube that it has, this one is #004 of five made. I like short bikes there quick and responsive I`ve listed the specs below but if your wondering "How short is it ?" Hows a 18" toptube, 11.75" chainstay and 7" standover height !!!! and it only weighs 3lbs 13oz. This is not a pit bike frame it is a full sized 20" wheel flatland frame. Still waiting on the decals the bike as it sits weighs 19lbs.
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It`s raining here today so sorry for the terrible pics.
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Removable rear brake cable guide on bottom of top tube the standard threaded adjustable style 
Stand over height    7"       
Head Tube Integrated
Down Tube Diameter 1.50″
Top Tube Diameter 1.25″
Bottom bracket Type Mid
Seat Tube Size 25.4″, Externally butted
Seat Stay O.D. 3/4″
Chain Stay O.D. 3/4″
Brake Mount Location under Seat Stays Removable
Head tube Angle 74
Seat Tube Angle 71.0
Rear End Length-Slammed 11.75" slammed   
Top Tube Length 18.0"
Bottom Bracket Height 11 1/2″
Drop Out Thickness 3/16″ and able to except 1.50 dia pegs   
Axle Slot Size 3/8"
Gyro Tabs Optional removable
Weight 3lbs 13oz !!!!
Customization    Serial Number on bottom bracket  >>>>>>>>>>>> Made by R Moliterno
                                                                                                                        For
                                                                                                                     Super D
"Standard" Raised logo head tube 1 of 5 made
Integrated seat clamp
Max sprocket size 22t
Max tire size 20 x 1.75
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: wolverines on December 03, 2012, 12:12:41 AM
The heat exchange from the welding on the headtube badge looks killer! Also one other cosmetic feature that can not really be completely duplicated!  Super Cool!
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: i_cant_ride on December 03, 2012, 12:33:15 AM
I designed a flatland frame for rick to build me eight months ago and this looks like a copy of my frame with very slight differences. Not trying to burst your bubble but .............
  This is my new full custom Standard "Super D" flatland frame designed by me. I`ve been wanting a frame built to my specs for a long long time and after alittle over eight months of waiting patiently I now have it !!! This is probably without a doubt the smallest flatland frame Standard has ever built and is one of only five in existence with the custom headtube that it has, this one is #004 of five made. I like short bikes there quick and responsive I`ve listed the specs below but if your wondering "How short is it ?" Hows a 18" toptube, 11.75" chainstay and 7" standover height !!!! and it only weighs 3lbs 13oz. This is not a pit bike frame it is a full sized 20" wheel flatland frame. Still waiting on the decals the bike as it sits weighs 19lbs.
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It`s raining here today so sorry for the terrible pics.
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Removable rear brake cable guide on bottom of top tube the standard threaded adjustable style 
Stand over height    7"       
Head Tube Integrated
Down Tube Diameter 1.50″
Top Tube Diameter 1.25″
Bottom bracket Type Mid
Seat Tube Size 25.4″, Externally butted
Seat Stay O.D. 3/4″
Chain Stay O.D. 3/4″
Brake Mount Location under Seat Stays Removable
Head tube Angle 74
Seat Tube Angle 71.0
Rear End Length-Slammed 11.75" slammed   
Top Tube Length 18.0"
Bottom Bracket Height 11 1/2″
Drop Out Thickness 3/16″ and able to except 1.50 dia pegs   
Axle Slot Size 3/8"
Gyro Tabs Optional removable
Weight 3lbs 13oz !!!!
Customization    Serial Number on bottom bracket  >>>>>>>>>>>> Made by R Moliterno
                                                                                                                        For
                                                                                                                     Super D
"Standard" Raised logo head tube 1 of 5 made
Integrated seat clamp
Max sprocket size 22t
Max tire size 20 x 1.75
you're not bursting any bubbles dude, that odds a tight ride. Congrats!
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: anthony on December 03, 2012, 01:15:12 AM
Why after getting another frame this came out????why? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: suicidepan on December 03, 2012, 02:04:25 AM
Why after get a another frame this came out????why??????????

This question doesn`t make any sense
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: i_cant_ride on December 03, 2012, 02:55:58 AM
Any other thoughts on what you guys want to see? Rick wanted me to stress that he's open to suggestions
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: Joshua S. on December 03, 2012, 04:35:28 AM
The heat exchange from the welding on the headtube badge looks killer! Also one other cosmetic feature that can not really be completely duplicated!  Super Cool!

Yes!

@suicidepan The colors on that reminds me of a rainbow. ;) Very Nice frame! I like the setup also.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: suicidepan on December 03, 2012, 05:02:08 AM
The heat exchange from the welding on the headtube badge looks killer! Also one other cosmetic feature that can not really be completely duplicated!  Super Cool!

Yes!

@suicidepan The colors on that reminds me of a rainbow. ;) Very Nice frame! I like the setup also.

Thank you I like it also, every nut and bolt on the bike even the ones you can`t see are rainbow Ti the stem is a new piece so it doesn`t have the rainbow Ti bolts yet. The raw heat coloring with the rainbow Ti go perfect together I like the pic of the crank arm the colors look great. The profile/nankai freecoaster hub is a very trick piece also it was alittle over $400 to build the hub. The hub has a london Ti axle, custom machined Ti slack spacer, Blue Six Ti nuts, Full Ceramic bearings, clearanced 9T driver for smoother chain running, Quamen deco cap, and 36h Profile/Nanaki shell, it runs like a swiss watch.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: johnu773 on December 03, 2012, 09:46:55 AM
i love everything about it but the rear dropout/stay junction. it'd be nicer if it was tapered like an S&M, flatter like a quamen or invertered like a st martin. just something a lil more foot friendly
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: K.Wong on December 03, 2012, 09:50:27 AM
i'll make my replies quick since it's about rick wanting input-
 
yes, rode standards frames before;
 
i was one of the few who created topics in regard to the sbc flat frame:
 
http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?topic=53369 (http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?topic=53369)
 
i understand that the pixs shown are custom bikes for specific riders, and the final bike might differ, but i shudder at the thought that sbc producing another diamond frame with similar specs. as a taiwanese-made diamond frame.
for every 1 of sbc bike sold, 10 or more sold are made in taiwan; so competing head-on with taiwanese and chinese bicycle manufacturing industry is silly to me.
not only has rick/ sbc got to compete with taiwanese, he has to compete with boutique custom frame builders within us-of-a (ketch, fbm, solid, circle a, mtf...etc) who can make a custom frame at similar price points and quality similar to that of sbc.
 
to those who posted below me, you must remember by the time the new frame is released after test trials it might be what the 1st gen flatware's waltz was - great frame but a little behind the curve in terms of trends/ riding styles/ preferences.   
 
there are so many sbc tao/ shaman clones out there for a reason, and is a testiment to the quality and orginality of the intial tao frame.
 
to sum up what others said so far:
 
1) dropouts - flush against chainstays and seatstays
2) longer dropouts for adjustments
3) unique sbc design elements to be incooperated
4) choice of rear brakemounts - welded or adjustable
5) weight - below 2kg, not everyone is able to spec.out their frame with titanium hardware.
 
6) my geo. suggestion-
 
75 deg. hta;
73 deg. sta or 73.5;
11.5" or 11.75" bb height;
spanish b.b.?
18.9 t.t. length;
17 1/4" stand over height at top tube to seatstay tube juncture (centre of tube)
12.75" to 13.5" chainstays length
 
 
 
                   
 

 

 
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: jpoliti on December 03, 2012, 09:59:45 AM
it looks good enough to me as it is. straight and simple. No need to add unnecessary details. I think that quality is what should set this frame apart from the rest, not gimmicks.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: Jesa on December 03, 2012, 11:15:15 AM
Looks good, would prefer it as it is rather than adding a gusset. Nothing wrong with making a diamond frame really. You would be competing regardless just by making a frame as not everyone wants a double diamond frame.

I dont like the idea of removable lugs as I simply do not run a back brake and have no intentions to and never have. Seems to just be a personal thing and to cater to both is probably the best option, even if those like myself who will never run a rear brake complain haha. The option of lugged or not would be nice though. Longer toptube options available would be nice, maybe 19.5 and 18.5. Other than that it looks like a nice, quality frame!
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: Joshua S. on December 03, 2012, 05:20:29 PM
"great frame but a little behind the curve in terms of trends/ riding styles/ preferences."

@K.Wong What frames are the trend and preferences today? What's the next step for these companies to leave Standard and/or S&M behind? Seems today alot of people want a strait tube frame that is strong also. That is what Standard & S&M are offering today. They have always had great products, but now they are bringing it back into the Flatland market. What is your definition of "behind the curve" & what can you compare that too(the new frames today)?
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: metalbmxer on December 03, 2012, 06:07:10 PM
"great frame but a little behind the curve in terms of trends/ riding styles/ preferences."

@K.Wong What frames are the trend and preferences today? What's the next step for these companies to leave Standard and/or S&M behind? Seems today alot of people want a strait tube frame that is strong also. That is what Standard & S&M are offering today. They have always had great products, but now they are bringing it back into the Flatland market. What is your definition of "behind the curve" & what can you compare that too(the new frames today)?

1st gen curved downtube waltz is what he's referring to.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: i_cant_ride on December 03, 2012, 06:39:36 PM
With regards to this frame being behind the curve by the time it's released, the frame should be going into production by next month. I sincerely doubt the trends will change too dramatically in that time frame
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: Jesa on December 03, 2012, 07:07:15 PM
I dont think it would matter if they made a straight tube or bendy or cross tube or whatever, just the fact standard are gona put a frame out to the mass market and sell it as a flat frame is good enough for me!
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: Joshua S. on December 04, 2012, 01:58:12 AM
With regards to this frame being behind the curve by the time it's released, the frame should be going into production by next month. I sincerely doubt the trends will change too dramatically in that time frame
I dont think it would matter if they made a straight tube or bendy or cross tube or whatever, just the fact standard are gona put a frame out to the mass market and sell it as a flat frame is good enough for me!

I agree.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: OldYeller on December 04, 2012, 02:28:41 AM
You can't bank on brand loyalty alone though, they'll need something to differentiate themselves.  They've been really innovative over the years but I'm seeing a pretty basic frame.


I know everyone praises Standard quality, but S&M and a few others can match them on that front.


What's the reason to buy this one over a competitor?


Answer that and they'll have a killer product.

Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: suicidepan on December 04, 2012, 02:37:28 AM
With regards to this frame being behind the curve by the time it's released, the frame should be going into production by next month. I sincerely doubt the trends will change too dramatically in that time frame

I`m in touch with Rick on very regular basis and there is no way that there is a production frame that`s going to happen in a month. The freestyle forks have been in the testing stage for over a year and no pictures have surfaced. The deal is just this if you want a custom frame with outstanding quality Standard will build it, but it`s going to cost you custom frame prices $500-$1000 if you think I`m full of it I can show you my four figure price quote for my frame. Rick builds high end Made In The U.S.A. Standard goodness. For Standard to make a production flat frame and not loose there ass on it they would have to have a huge batch of frames pre ordered it`s that simple. So on that note the two Standard frames in this thread are super sweet custom one off frames and we should leave it at that instead of filling peoples heads with ideas that probably won`t happen for a very long time.         
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: wolverines on December 04, 2012, 02:46:10 AM
With regards to this frame being behind the curve by the time it's released, the frame should be going into production by next month. I sincerely doubt the trends will change too dramatically in that time frame
   plus who gives a sh*t!   its a standard!
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: i_cant_ride on December 04, 2012, 02:59:44 AM
With regards to this frame being behind the curve by the time it's released, the frame should be going into production by next month. I sincerely doubt the trends will change too dramatically in that time frame

I`m in touch with Rick on very regular basis and there is no way that there is a production frame that`s going to happen in a month. The freestyle forks have been in the testing stage for over a year and no pictures have surfaced. The deal is just this if you want a custom frame with outstanding quality Standard will build it, but it`s going to cost you custom frame prices $500-$1000 if you think I`m full of it I can show you my four figure price quote for my frame. Rick builds high end Made In The U.S.A. Standard goodness. For Standard to make a production flat frame and not loose there ass on it they would have to have a huge batch of frames pre ordered it`s that simple. So on that note the two Standard frames in this thread are super sweet custom one off frames and we should leave it at that instead of filling peoples heads with ideas that probably won`t happen for a very long time.         
almost all of what you just said is incorrect. I've been in daily contact with Rick and he's all in for building a flatland frame. He plans to make a limited batch next month to see how they sell. 
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: suicidepan on December 04, 2012, 03:13:30 AM
With regards to this frame being behind the curve by the time it's released, the frame should be going into production by next month. I sincerely doubt the trends will change too dramatically in that time frame

I was in contact with him today and will be tomorrow as well I gotta ask him about this one it`s sounds too good to be true.....

I`m in touch with Rick on very regular basis and there is no way that there is a production frame that`s going to happen in a month. The freestyle forks have been in the testing stage for over a year and no pictures have surfaced. The deal is just this if you want a custom frame with outstanding quality Standard will build it, but it`s going to cost you custom frame prices $500-$1000 if you think I`m full of it I can show you my four figure price quote for my frame. Rick builds high end Made In The U.S.A. Standard goodness. For Standard to make a production flat frame and not loose there ass on it they would have to have a huge batch of frames pre ordered it`s that simple. So on that note the two Standard frames in this thread are super sweet custom one off frames and we should leave it at that instead of filling peoples heads with ideas that probably won`t happen for a very long time.         
almost all of what you just said is incorrect. I've been in daily contact with Rick and he's all in for building a flatland frame. He plans to make a limited batch next month to see how they sell. 
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: beard on December 04, 2012, 06:30:24 AM
yo,


personally, i rock that frame! flatland bykes r like skateboard decks... there all the same it's all about who u wanna support.......i'd support rick anyday.....one of the best flatland riders or riders of all time period.


here's to rick,


cheers,

Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: anthony on December 04, 2012, 06:54:59 AM
Another straight tube bmx frame. Please make it a bit more stylish.No need to be a super bent tube but at least a raised head tube with gusset like the Standard Tao.

Or the pierced seat tube/top tube junction!

Yes,that too!! :beer:

I wasnt alone w that idea..... YEAH...
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: i_cant_ride on December 05, 2012, 05:57:22 AM
Anybody have anything else they'd like to see?
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: 8deen1 on December 05, 2012, 09:04:27 AM
Anybody have anything else they'd like to see?


i loved how to see the full bike check. super nice with super highend parts. though, imho:


1. i like to see the cs to be slightly tapered near to the do and with inside do welding,
2. a signature bridge on the cs and ss,
3. integrated chain tensioner (removable/permanent), and
4. an engraved logo on the ht.


those are just my silly opinions only  :D
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: K.Wong on December 05, 2012, 11:37:52 AM
With regards to this frame being behind the curve by the time it's released, the frame should be going into production by next month. I sincerely doubt the trends will change too dramatically in that time frame
   plus who gives a sh*t!   its a standard!

the rest of the world's flatlanders?
 
we pay shipping charges that most american would blenched at - i would know, i tried to resell frames back to americans, most fell through due to the shipping rates.
if i'm getting a frame that's priced higher, plus the shipping rates that they are now, it's gonna have to differentiate itself other then by stickers.
i could have easily purchased a ares aplus/ footjam/ jungle rider/ a-damm frame/ tango n waltz over the new sbc frame if it's a diamond frame (example).   
 
Anybody have anything else they'd like to see?

yes: a tapered chainstay and seatstay tubings -wider at b.b. and seattube juncture, narrower at dropouts;
more sbc-ness in the new flat bike (pretty sure mac-diamond frame lovers will disagree, lol);
better, smoother dropouts to ss/cs connection;
 
trying to sell a superior product at higher prices, you do not package and make it like a mac-burger; it will only fail after the sbc diehards purchase the intial small-production batch.
 
i will quote the success of gt's flatland bike Show.
it debuted in the mist of straight t.t, heavy-weight chromoly frames with longish c.s length and lowish b.b. height. was it an epic failure? you tell me.
not that i'm asking rick at sbc to make a curve-tube frame (that's un-sbc-ish), just think outta the box.
 
if you look closely, almost all chainstays, seatstays, 2-pc bars, 4-pc bars are all made by bending tubes!
and for those who insist that bend tubes are stronger - don't ride bmx/ flat bikes; fixie and road bikes are a better fit for you.
oh wait, freestyle fixies also do have bents at the chainstay and seatstays to accept wider tires... oh, what will you diehards-straight-tube-bike-porn advocates do...
seen any broken s-bent chainstays s&m/ intrikat lately?
 
 
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: Revig on December 05, 2012, 07:21:36 PM
Anybody have anything else they'd like to see?


just say to Rick Moliterno to read what somebody like you started 3 years ago, maybe there is something else there:

http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?topic=32094.0 (http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?topic=32094.0)

Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: londonflat on December 05, 2012, 08:07:22 PM
Your bike looks so good dude,love it be nice to see standard making a new flatland frame,very interested.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: K.Wong on December 06, 2012, 02:21:01 AM
Thank you to everyone for your input so far. Let me address one thing to be clear: I am only interested in building a frame that is top notch and for the current form of flat. The older influenced, retro style stuff but modernized can stay in my custom program. I can make the frame any geometry any rider wants. What I need from you guys is what the key points are. Maximum tire size, max sprocket size, stand over height, head tube length, how much clearance for the stays, brakes/ no brakes options, details baby! I only have interest in building the best. I have always believed as a rider, that to build the best I need to listen to those that ride a given model then use excellent materials and build process with quality control. I will listen to all and build a proto for you guys to scrutinize. Let's keep the dialogue open. Feel free to contact me directly as well.
Rick
found this quote back in the thread posted by the man himself.
 
sprocket size - min. 16 t, 18 t is more common
tire width - 1.85" max?
ht height - 4.5"
built in chain tensioners
 
these in addition to what i posted previously;
 
don't know rick's definition of what retro is, but nothing is more retro than diamond frames to me...
 
 
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: i_cant_ride on December 08, 2012, 05:13:29 PM
Anything else? Weight range, tube diameter?
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: HighLander on December 08, 2012, 06:01:27 PM
I understand that Standard wants to build a Full flat ride in bmx frame style form and that certain suggestions fall into the retro looks but My Opinion: Why can Standard just do a similar Tao head gusset? Respect to all riders who like bmx straight tubes but having a frame made in bmx style the only difference is gonna be the name Standard on it. Look at the Dan'scomp catalog and compare frames and see that they differ very little. You can make a great flat frame and satisfy many more riders in the process. Dont mean to compare but look at the Intrikat frame,i believe is a top seller.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: i_cant_ride on December 08, 2012, 07:22:00 PM
Quality is a huge difference between standard and several other companies. Standard uses the best materials, , they have the best welders and the best quality control in the business. There is a reason for brand loyalty
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: sakis on December 08, 2012, 07:32:50 PM
this is my frame we build with malo,it weights 2 kg without brake mounts.
it can go 1850 with all tubing 0.035'' and it can go around 2 kg with 7/8 seat and chainstays at 0.049 tubing.
well i think it would be perfect for a standard modernized tao.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/malovelo/CompositionSakislow.jpg)
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: Phatman on December 08, 2012, 08:03:05 PM
1-1/4" Diameter TT - Butted Super Therm
1-3/8" Diameter DT - Butted Super Therm
3/4" O.D x .035” Gauge Tapered to 1/2” O.D Seat Stays
3/4" O.D x .049” Gauge Tapered to 5/8” O.D Chain Stays
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: sakis on December 08, 2012, 08:07:31 PM
1-1/4" Diameter TT - Butted Super Therm
1-3/8" Diameter DT - Butted Super Therm
3/4" O.D x .035” Gauge Tapered to 1/2” O.D Seat Stays
[/size]3/4" O.D x .049” Gauge Tapered to 5/8” O.D Chain Stays
agree.and wishbone 0.049 for cs and 7/8 0.049 tube bridge for the seatstay
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: HighLander on December 09, 2012, 09:08:45 AM
this is my frame we build with malo,it weights 2 kg without brake mounts.
it can go 1850 with all tubing 0.035'' and it can go around 2 kg with 7/8 seat and chainstays at 0.049 tubing.
well i think it would be perfect for a standard modernized tao.
([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/malovelo/CompositionSakislow.jpg[/url])


Nice frame!!!
Is they did something similar to this....
How much Standard Bike charge for custom frames?
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: back2flat35 on December 09, 2012, 02:33:48 PM
I have to say wills(I can't ride) standard frame is a work of art. The welds and pure quality sets it apart from many other frames. The way I look at it is if u want a strong quality frame this may be what u need. I see under a handful of frames in flatland that will holdup strength wise. It may not be everyone's cup of tea but its an option when your current frame sh*ts the bed. To just have that option in a flatland frame is a huge plus. Ride on fellas
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: sakis on December 09, 2012, 02:50:34 PM
this is my frame we build with malo,it weights 2 kg without brake mounts.
it can go 1850 with all tubing 0.035'' and it can go around 2 kg with 7/8 seat and chainstays at 0.049 tubing.
well i think it would be perfect for a standard modernized tao.
([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/malovelo/CompositionSakislow.jpg[/url])


Nice frame!!!
Is they did something similar to this....
How much Standard Bike charge for custom frames?

i emailed and asked and they told me around 1000-1200 usd with ox platinum tube,6 months ago..so then i found a used intrikat but it was 19.5 and it was long for me,so i ordered this frame from pir bikes malo.for much cheaper price.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: HighLander on December 09, 2012, 06:09:57 PM
Wow,that's a lot! But its a Masterpiece!
Thanks for info. :beer:
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: sakis on December 09, 2012, 06:16:00 PM
Wow,that's a lot! But its a Masterpiece!
Thanks for info. :beer:
oh sorry this frame costs around 450 euro and it is from pir bikes malo made it.
but you can get it around 400 more or less without mounts and integrated seatpost
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: HighLander on December 09, 2012, 06:22:24 PM
Wow,that's a lot! But its a Masterpiece!
Thanks for info. :beer:
oh sorry this frame costs around 450 euro and it is from pir bikes malo made it.
but you can get it around 400 more or less without mounts and integrated seatpost

Yeah that sounds much better!
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: i_cant_ride on December 12, 2012, 03:37:51 AM
A new Tao would be cool but im not sure that's what Rick Is trying to do with this frame in particular.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: K.Wong on December 12, 2012, 02:57:26 PM
{orginal post deleted by request}
 
apology to those affected; for those who have read my o.g. post, please don't repost.
 
thanks
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: i_cant_ride on December 13, 2012, 04:55:41 PM
I'm trying to get Rick on here to quell some possible concerns. Hopefully you'll be hearing from him soon
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: K.Wong on December 14, 2012, 07:14:53 AM
he is a g-flat member, that wouldn't be issue.
it would really be great to read from him directly and the purpose/ direction of the new frame is taking. 
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: metalbmxer on December 14, 2012, 08:18:11 AM
he is a g-flat member, that wouldn't be issue.
it would really be great to read from him directly and the purpose/ direction of the new frame is taking. 

Seconded.

The frame needs a competitive price. It doesn't have to be a mid school throwback with complex welds, but maybe just a diamond frame with different sizes than what is available in the market.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: i_cant_ride on December 14, 2012, 03:12:58 PM
He told me he didn't remember any of his login credentials. I've been pushing him to log in for a week now. Haha
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: EZChris on December 14, 2012, 06:24:19 PM
Ooooop here we go again.

Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: i_cant_ride on December 17, 2012, 04:46:37 AM
Bump
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: byke on December 17, 2012, 11:30:49 AM
I like retro and all that ... but mock retro is basically mid life crisis.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: i_cant_ride on December 17, 2012, 01:01:58 PM
What are you referring to when you say mock retro?
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: suicidepan on December 17, 2012, 02:26:20 PM
This is the email Rick sent to me about this post this is the truth about what`s going on.

 Well D...there has been loose conversation but nothing set in stone. I like the handful of flat land frames I have built lately. They all are similar but with different geometries. Very close yet different. I told him I would be willing to make flat frames on the regular but I can't afford to build them for stock if they don't move. For that I like input to make sure we are in the game. Some of the input I hear sounds like a 6th grader asking for a gimmick and some is very good legitimate input. So he may be stretching some of it (I haven't seen his comments) and may be on with some of it. The number 1 thing though is nothing is set at all.

Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: i_cant_ride on December 17, 2012, 04:30:48 PM
I haven't said anything that Rick hasn't told me. Unfortunately due to nay sayers, Something like this will lose steam rather than gain momentum. Rather than giving input that can be worked with, it becomes a pissing contest.give legitimate input rather than posting how great your unridden bike is based on how much you paid for it.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: K.Wong on December 19, 2012, 08:49:15 AM
i do not know who to believe...

gimmicks? pls specify... a tao front end a gimmick? a pierced t.t to seat tube juncture a gimmick?

like i said previously:

both s&m/ intrikat and sbc annouced a flatland frame project around the same time, s&m/ intrikat is in fifth production run and it seems to be selling, so...

Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: HighLander on January 02, 2013, 06:23:33 AM
i do not know who to believe...

gimmicks? pls specify... a tao front end a gimmick? a pierced t.t to seat tube juncture a gimmick?

like i said previously:

both s&m/ intrikat and sbc annouced a flatland frame project around the same time, s&m/ intrikat is in fifth production run and it seems to be selling, so...




A little style on the frame nothing wrong with that. If Standard just wants to make a regular bmx frame then best ofluck. Im sure they got loyal followers and the new frame will sell well. But me,i Like the gimmick so i guess ill have to go with an Intrikat.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: K.Wong on January 02, 2013, 09:38:27 AM
me too (somewhat...) - i don't see a point in going back to what in essence is 1980s frame design, and that in itself is a gimmick and pandering to trend whores.
i mean riders migrated away from small pegs and diamond frames for function reasons which are still valid today.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: HighLander on January 02, 2013, 10:01:21 AM
I like to stand out a bit from the crowd. When my bike is on the ground with other bikes i want to be able to tell it apart from all others even with a minimal detail. I swear i have a hard time telling all new diamond frames apart. 
Anyways i don't want to offend any one w/my dislike of bmx style frames. I just like mine w/some details.
My opinion,Old school In me.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: metalbmxer on January 02, 2013, 04:45:08 PM
i do not know who to believe...

gimmicks? pls specify... a tao front end a gimmick? a pierced t.t to seat tube juncture a gimmick?

like i said previously:

both s&m/ intrikat and sbc annouced a flatland frame project around the same time, s&m/ intrikat is in fifth production run and it seems to be selling, so...



I agree with you on certain features not necessarily being gimmicks. Certain features may add strength. In my experience riding BMX about 12 years, I have had issues with the cracking the upper seattube junction riding flatland or street.

I specifically remember my TerribleOne frame with its unique junction holding up to lots of abuse versus the regular "tucked" or "overlapped" styles of welding the upper seattube junction that are prone to cracking (fatigue) or snapping.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: out~riding on August 28, 2014, 03:49:55 PM
Not exactly a flatland frame..
but here's a STA frame, Freestyle fork with brake mounts and 4 pc. bars from Standard today:
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: out~riding on August 28, 2014, 04:05:48 PM
nice!
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: out~riding on August 28, 2014, 04:08:07 PM
Quote from: Standard's facebook
Another rack of mild to wild customs. Each one of these takes a great deal of time to build correctly. Sometimes it takes a while to get them done. We do our best. You wouldn't want us to rush yours would you? LOL! A lot of wildness in here if you look closely. T.G.I.F. shop shot! Have a great weekend!
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: HighLander on August 28, 2014, 04:31:37 PM
Frame stand? Modern Shorty?
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: johnu773 on August 28, 2014, 04:51:34 PM
Frame stand? Modern Shorty?

no, its a repop trickstar
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: stuntnuts on August 28, 2014, 05:06:51 PM
Man, one-off customs are really the only thing keeping that company on life support.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: metalbmxer on August 28, 2014, 05:56:24 PM
Standard makes Reklamation's stuff.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: out~riding on August 28, 2014, 08:41:14 PM
Man, one-off customs are really the only thing keeping that company on life support.

I wouldn't say they are on "life support", they seem very busy and build a lot of parts for other company's.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: stuntnuts on August 28, 2014, 09:14:30 PM
I wouldn't say they are on "life support", they seem very busy and build a lot of parts for other company's.

I suppose I mean bicycles that are branded as Standards. The Standard Bykes brand is pretty much dead, no? The only frames I see come out of that shop w/ Standard badging are customs and a small handful of STA's.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: out~riding on September 04, 2014, 11:17:29 PM
Quote from: Standard
What's old is new. Sort of! LOL. I first rode this color for one of my sponsors in 1985. Debuted "Futuristic Black" at the Manchester, NH AFA contest. This is a fully modernized custom brought to life. Check out some of the trick features on this bad boy! ‪#‎custombmx‬ ‪#‎madeinusa
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: out~riding on March 28, 2015, 02:20:09 PM
Quote from: Standard Byke
This was built for Joel Shallhorn (his specs-production TBD) for testing. He is a tall guy so this one is 20" top tube. 13.5 rear, 7.5" stand over, 75 head angle,  71 seat tube angle. TAO/ Shaman influenced front end. Wrap around chain stay bridge influenced from our original bikes, Smooth transition from chain stays to drop outs via plug style drop outs. Removable brake mounts. Holla!

The 4 piece bars are 9" rise with a lowered crossbar for flat. 2 up 10 back. Any spec can be built in this style bar.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: out~riding on October 13, 2015, 08:35:49 PM
Quote from:  Standard
We really like the way this Lengthy turned out. Custom made goodness!
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: DaddyCool on October 15, 2015, 11:39:11 PM
The lengthy really looks cool, especially the colour!
Do you know the weight? I am not sure what the original ones have weighed, but they must have been heavy.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: out~riding on October 16, 2015, 01:27:34 AM
since there all custom the weight varies, you can get it as light as you want choosing thinner tubes.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: out~riding on June 08, 2016, 11:02:59 PM
Quote from: standard byke company
This kit is for UK shredder Mike O'Connell! 250L frame with weld on gyro tabs. Freestyle fork with brake mounts (and classic stickers!). Strip Bars. All matching in translucent teal over raw.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: metalbmxer on June 09, 2016, 11:43:13 AM
Wow that color pops!
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: out~riding on September 23, 2016, 10:59:55 PM

Quote from: standard byke company
A custom hanging out in the shop. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: metalbmxer on September 24, 2016, 04:12:53 PM

Quote from: standard byke company
A custom hanging out in the shop. Thoughts?


Nice looking frame like their older models not a fan of the framestand tho
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: Flatman5 on September 26, 2016, 02:49:40 PM
Welded on brakemounts and Id ride that in a second love it
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: Ultraman Zoffy on September 29, 2016, 01:17:13 AM
Yup, I'd rock the hell out of a modern geo/clearance frame with a platform and brake mounts right about now.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: johnu773 on September 29, 2016, 04:20:20 PM
Yup, I'd rock the hell out of a modern geo/clearance frame with a platform and brake mounts right about now.

I've had a platform on my Ketch for over a year now. Lovin' it.
18.9"tt, 7"standover, 12.8" rear, only 4.5lbs (FULL ox tubing)
chainstay mounts that clear even with a 23T.

(http://i608.photobucket.com/albums/tt161/johnu773/C3B5A4F7-4724-4B77-96AE-27AE6A3D1299_zpsloyqc6ya.jpg) (http://s608.photobucket.com/user/johnu773/media/C3B5A4F7-4724-4B77-96AE-27AE6A3D1299_zpsloyqc6ya.jpg.html)

(http://i608.photobucket.com/albums/tt161/johnu773/86B27E7B-9C56-4E8F-9CDA-A5040FD9FFE6_zpsjibhz7yb.jpg) (http://s608.photobucket.com/user/johnu773/media/86B27E7B-9C56-4E8F-9CDA-A5040FD9FFE6_zpsjibhz7yb.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: JUGGARNAUT on October 19, 2016, 05:03:52 PM
Nice bike John..
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: johnu773 on October 20, 2016, 04:35:34 AM
Nice bike John..

Thank you.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: out~riding on November 07, 2016, 10:54:12 PM
Quote from: Standard
STA500 without the optional classic gusset.
19.5 top tube little sucker!
Freestyle fork with brake mounts.
Custom 4 pc. bars with capped ends.
All looking sweet in translucent red!
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: bmxelement90 on November 08, 2016, 07:02:28 PM
Quote from: Standard
STA500 without the optional classic gusset.
19.5 top tube little sucker!
Freestyle fork with brake mounts.
Custom 4 pc. bars with capped ends.
All looking sweet in translucent red!

it's not an STA without the gusset  :P haha that looks so sweet though....I need it!
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: out~riding on November 08, 2016, 08:22:32 PM
Quote from: Rick Moliterno
This right here was the very first Standard Byke Co prototype frame! The photo (I think) is from early/ mid 1992. Have to love the short 20" top tube frame, standing platform, roller cam front brakes complete with jacked forward bars and tall seat post! Lol! I have to give a shout out to some of the guys that really helped get this going back in the formative days. Kurt Schmidt, Bill Nitchke, Ron Anderson, Sean Murphy, John Wold, and Jamie McParland. Also a huge thank you to Bob Southwick for even dealing with us rowdies and making this a reality! #25yrs
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: metalbmxer on November 11, 2016, 01:32:20 PM
Quote from: Standard
STA500 without the optional classic gusset.
19.5 top tube little sucker!
Freestyle fork with brake mounts.
Custom 4 pc. bars with capped ends.
All looking sweet in translucent red!

😍😍😍😍 wow that looks amazing
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: out~riding on January 19, 2017, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: Standard
New take on an old idea! The refined Shaman in translucent red! Check out the details in the post!
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: metalbmxer on January 20, 2017, 05:01:44 AM
Holy fk wow
Got any specs on it?
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: out~riding on January 21, 2017, 06:10:21 PM
Holy fk wow
Got any specs on it?

This one is Steven Hamilton's frame. Don't have the specs but they are all custom made.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: bmxelement90 on January 24, 2017, 01:10:49 PM
Holy fk wow
Got any specs on it?

This one is Steven Hamilton's frame. Don't have the specs but they are all custom made.

Steven said it was a 20" top tube
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: azflatlander on February 03, 2017, 06:28:13 AM
Slightly "S" bend that downtube  :beer:

Opps!  I mean from the original first post
Title: Standard Bykes flatland frame
Post by: nesterdron on March 26, 2017, 06:41:32 PM
new to TCU as well  just post a few pics in the gallery of my hack using the stock frame as a donor.  just get ta hackn n see what you can come up with.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: out~riding on July 13, 2017, 04:36:34 PM
Quote from: standard byke company
We have several customs wrapping up in the shop. Check out the TAO/ Shaman front end on this one. 19.5 top tube and chain stay brakes. We will re post when it comes back from powder.
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: metalbmxer on July 16, 2017, 08:02:40 PM
Looks amazing thanks for posting out~riding!
Title: Re: Standard Bykes flatland frame!
Post by: out~riding on September 27, 2018, 01:25:14 AM
Quote from: @standardbykecompany
Check out this Shaman/ Tao influenced frame built for both flatland and street! The rear stay treatment and plug style dropouts smooth out the foot area challenge out back. This thing is extra cool in this neon pink powder by @schwarz_pc (https://www.instagram.com/schwarz_pc/)
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Post by: sakis on September 27, 2018, 01:03:49 PM
nice,anybody knows a price for a frame like this?
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Post by: metalbmxer on September 27, 2018, 03:39:02 PM
Looks legit. Couldn't do the pink tho
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Post by: sakis on September 27, 2018, 05:13:39 PM
Its from the Andrew farish era i guess  ;D ;D :beer:
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Post by: out~riding on October 24, 2018, 10:17:07 PM
Quote from: @standardbykecompany
Clear over raw always looks so good! 250L frame, fork with brake mounts, and 4 pc bars will make a real nice set up!
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Post by: out~riding on October 24, 2018, 10:21:50 PM
Quote from: @standardbykecompany
We think the young racers should have cool bikes too! Here is a 20” TT Expert XL 100R! Yellow to Super Chrome powder fade. Cool to see 990 mounts on a little guy race frame!
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Post by: metalbmxer on October 24, 2018, 10:41:08 PM
Nice work!
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Post by: out~riding on December 08, 2018, 12:35:18 PM
Quote from: Standardbykecompany
Here is a modern take on one of our original frame models, the Lenghty! This is raw and uncleaned. This bad boy will be powder coated trans purple. More photos will be posted after powder!
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Post by: bmxelement90 on December 11, 2018, 05:01:27 PM
standard is the only company that riders should support. change my mind
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Post by: Revig on December 11, 2018, 05:37:54 PM


welcome to the jungle
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Post by: out~riding on February 16, 2019, 02:11:29 AM
Quote from: standardbykecompany
Here is another very cool custom fresh out of the @schwarz_pc oven in Tropical Breeze! This Resinator frame has a 19.5” front end and our classic gusset! It also has traditional cable routing rather than the stock routing through the seat tube. One other very cool feature is the wrap around seat stay gusset with a weld on S-logo! We love builds like this!
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Post by: sbroflatland on February 28, 2019, 10:51:02 PM
sounds very close to the geometry of my mankind alive frame with a higher step over height. i like the removable mounts.  my mk doesnt have that option.
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Post by: out~riding on March 05, 2019, 12:58:10 PM
Quote from: standardbykecompany
Here are a few bits of hotness from around the shop!
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Post by: sakis on March 05, 2019, 02:50:19 PM
is this custom?
price?
looks good
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Post by: metalbmxer on March 05, 2019, 03:11:00 PM
Nice! rather odd back end design tho
Also the dropouts could be milled about a half inch further in
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Post by: out~riding on March 06, 2019, 11:34:12 PM
The flatland frames are all custom made so you can spec them out as you like.
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Post by: a08 on April 20, 2019, 01:48:56 AM
19.25"/19.5" with a 13" Back end would sell like hot cakes!
Id buy one of those hot cakes. especially if they gave it a tao head tube junction

Nice! rather odd back end design tho
Also the dropouts could be milled about a half inch further in
odd like how? looks like an STA 500 a the ST/SS/TT junction.
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Post by: metalbmxer on April 20, 2019, 09:05:07 PM
19.25"/19.5" with a 13" Back end would sell like hot cakes!
Id buy one of those hot cakes. especially if they gave it a tao head tube junction

Nice! rather odd back end design tho
Also the dropouts could be milled about a half inch further in
odd like how? looks like an STA 500 a the ST/SS/TT junction.

Yeah something with a throwback design would pique folks’ interests bigtime.

As far as the backend goes guess I just hadn’t seen any older standard frames with that. More used to the newer STA backends I guess 
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Post by: a08 on April 20, 2019, 09:15:19 PM
Oh I see, I had to take a second look. I actually agree on second thought. Looks better with the SSs piercing the top tube instead of the seat tube below..

Always been a big Standard Fan. Used to have a custom 250L with the outline of Ohio lasered into the seat stay brace but it got stolen.
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Post by: out~riding on June 04, 2019, 11:23:50 PM
Quote from: standardbykecompany
We love building bikes for riders that know exactly what they want!

Here is a modern flatland machine inspired by our TAO frame from years ago!

We are very happy with the way this turned out!
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Post by: out~riding on July 06, 2019, 01:50:59 AM
Quote from: rickmoliterno
Shorty 2019 custom version. What’s old is new again!