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English => General Flatland Forum => Topic started by: mad.scientist on October 04, 2012, 04:48:55 AM
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ok so this is my progress post or something like that, i've been trying out tailwhips for 3 days now.
so far i almost land one :P anyway i have some trouble keeping my balance once the frame goes further the 90 degrees, either that or it wont spin fast enough.
any tips? i'll try to post a video if i get to practice at day when my phone gets enough light to get a nice image.
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A lot of it's in your arms.
Stand on the ground and hold the front brake. Then try to do it without using your foot, just tilt the bars to make the frame rotate around. Stand there wagging the frame around until you get the motion down.
Then when you really try to do it, your arms will be assisting the kick.
The kick doesn't have to be so hard, in fact I've seen people kick so hard that they can't balance it.
Just give it a good push and work your arms around the circle leading the frame around.
When it gets back to the other side, just step to the frame close to the seat post.
A tip for getting back on and riding away is that when you kick the frame, push your foot backwards so that the crank rotates back to level. Then when you step on the frame, you've got a pedal to step down on that will start you rolling.
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i'll keep that in mind, that explains why my arms hurt
im pushing from the back peg, it felt easier that way so my cranks are ready to ride away
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me trying out tailwhips
Tailwhips (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBeQi6DQXhM#)
im still not sure what's going wrong, and i was so tired i could barely keep myself up :P
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A couple of tips...
Starting from the back peg is giving you less speed on the spin. If you do it from the pedal with the same kick, I think you'll see the frame spin with more momentum to carry it around. Pushing it from the pedal is like having a higher gearing on your bike, it will move faster and farther for the same foot movement.
Turn into the spin so you can put your body into it a little. It's subtle, but it works.
With no spinning momentum, it's hard to just stand in that position. Static balance is seriously hard, you need movement.
I'd work on getting it moving better (all my previous tips, especially the arms thing) so that when you're in that position, you can actually feel yourself pulling it around. As it is, you're starting it then just waiting with hope that it finishes. You'll be actively moving the frame once you figure it out instead of just waiting for it.
Even with your brakes on, you're pushing the tire back. When I learned it in like 1984(?) you couldn't do it with front brakes (no cables through the fork yet) so you pretty much had to do it brakeless.
I think this helped teach me how to prevent what's happening to you. Doing it brakeless you naturally lean the bike forward a bit more and actually push the tire forward. It's sort of like if your handlebars slipped, and you put your foot on the stem to pull them back into place. If you look closely at most people, they probably have the same body positioning as if they had no brakes.
Keep it up man, you'll get it!
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took my front breaks off to practice :D also i dont get distracted about the bolt that goes through the fork which i keep getting my foot jammed into
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Hey, whatever it takes, right?
It's probably harder without, but it's also easier in some ways.
Good luck, shoot us some videos when you get it!
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Mad Scientist,
What Old Yeller is telling you about the arm motion is right. To put it in different words, he means to say that when the frame is about half way around, you need to tug on the bars in a way that pulls the frame around to you. After watching your video i also noticed some very common mistakes people make on that single style tailwhip you're trying. If you notice, your rear wheel is almost always high off the ground at the midway point. It should be very low like a couple inches from the ground. To make this happen you need more horizontal follow through with your kick. People often kick the frame up and they don't even realize it. Just as you go to kick it around, you should be simultaneously be shifting your upper body weight forward as you kick the rear peg and really follow through with your foot/leg so you don't release the peg until 1/4 way around. Because your bike is tilted up with your rear wheel higher in the air, your body naturally is not hovering over the bars like it should. I also notice that you are twisting your body to go and meet the frame because your starting technique is off and the frame never really makes it around to you. NEVER give in to twisting your body. You want to do a full proper 360 tailwhip so when you are done, you pedal away facing the exact same way you were when you started. Start at a medium or even slow speed and work on technique as opposed to speed and luck. The whip should happen very fast and you should start by traveling slow. If you're doing it right you should be able to do it from a dead stop. Keep that rear end low, really follow through on the kick, and pull the bike around to you with the bars and don't twist your body. The advantage to kicking off the peg is that you can set your pedal for an easy ride out, but try kicking from the pedal if you think it initially helps technique and then go back to the peg later. Good luck.
chase gouin
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I used to be able to do this.
Just had a quick try now,
didn't pull it, but I got much closer by focusing on
balancing on the front wheel.
Oh yeah, I definitely find it easier with brakes bud :beer:
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Hi Mad Scientist,
Here's a video specially made for you, my trick is a bit rusty because i just come back for riding recently but i hope this video can help you to Master Tail whip in one day.
If this is not enough, below there's another Tail whip handbook.
Flatland, How to Tail whip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwOygXT10vY#ws)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/109598990/How-to-Tail-Whip-Series-1#fullscreen (http://www.scribd.com/doc/109598990/How-to-Tail-Whip-Series-1#fullscreen)
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thanks for all the tips :D i just have a question cause i cant manage to keep the back wheel low :S, but could it be that my bike is not flat dedicated? i think i get the wheel high to get the fork at a 90° from the ground
here's a picture
http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/r90/3391_10151259080380803_823780616_n.jpg (http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/r90/3391_10151259080380803_823780616_n.jpg)
i'll keep trying to do it from the pedals though i find it harder not sure why.
anyway i'll keep trying and thanks for the tips i'll put them to action and see what happens
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It's not the bike, although some bikes make it slightly easier than others.
I used my park bike to make a video for you, so we're on a level playing field. The freewheel sound bothered me, so a lot of it is muted. I don't miss those noisy things...
I just got my daughter to shoot it real quick and I regret some of my wording. Especially the part about "how I place my hands on the bars". I should have said "how I use my hands to move the bars".
It's in a circular motion, with an especially pronounced pull when the frame is 180 degrees from you like Chase said.
The problem is that the better you get at this trick, the less noticeable that pull is. In jamesteo's video, he's smooth enough it's really hard to see. Maybe I'm not as good so you can kind of see it.
I'm sure there are other mistakes and I also forgot to do one with no brakes, but it is what it is.
Don't worry about having your forks at some exact angle, that doesn't matter. What matters is that you've got the wheel where you want it, the fork angle will change throughout the trick. It sort of angles toward the frame, where ever you need the frame to go in the next fraction of a second. Think hula hoop.
Anyway, maybe this will help some.
Tailwhip How-to for mad.scientist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD3w9MY4Ne0#ws)
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that last variation was awesome!
now i get it! and now i see the part where my wheel is too high.
aaand my bike looks huge. :P it's not really big but it does look big...
ok, i gotta get this down and practice and i'll get some progress video :) thanks for the tips and videos guys! :D
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Thanks!
That bike has a 21" top tube but I'm fairly tall and very skinny so it's probably deceptive looking.
You could use a smaller bike, but if you keep it up, you'll have a few tricks down by the time you get one.
Good luck!
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Been watching this topic and after watching old yella's vid I think I need to put some work in on my tailwhips :/ I must be the goofy-ist? Rider ever everything I'm doing is sorta working for me but it's not the way most do it lol i noticed I whip the other way for that last tailwhip you did yella so I'm whiping in both directions???
Anywhoo il try get a vid together but it's not really a how to more of a why do as in why do I chuck em both ways!?
Mad-scientist; keep it up fella you don't look far off doing them and don't be put off by your bike! I was a lot smaller than what you look on that bike when I started riding park years ago. The time I started riding bikes were heavy and over the first few years they only got heavier! Keep at it matey you will have them before you know it :)
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This may sound silly but it took me years of playing with tailwhips. I had such a hard time getting them. But what I did wrong for so long was kicking with my foot, its a push. I found the kick was messing up my balance.
But when you get them they are so fun. when I rode I always made sure I landed 3 as I dont want to loose the trick as they are fun and quick.
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Here's the vid, the bike spins the other way when I go straight from pedals and the last one is off the back pegs enjoy!
Tailwhips (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI3D-HGZpwE#ws)
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I must be the goofy-ist? Rider ever everything I'm doing is sorta working for me but it's not the way most do it lol i noticed I whip the other way for that last tailwhip you did yella so I'm whiping in both directions???
Anywhoo il try get a vid together but it's not really a how to more of a why do as in why do I chuck em both ways!?
Why be upset about a difference? It kicks ass that you can do them both ways, that's an awesome skill.
I might be able to struggle through one the other direction, I don't think I've tried, but some of us put in a lot of time learning opposite whiplashes for instance and you seem to do it naturally.
The more different you are, the better I'd say.
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nice variation from the back pegs! i might steal it from you when i get those tailwhips down :D
keneken: not put off :) actually encouraged by all the tips i've been getting :)
i gotta keep working on my tricks soon i'll get my first "edit" posted :D i actually have a set goal to have that tailwhip landed at least 3 or 4 times by the 27th ;)
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a quick update, i noticed my weight was off to my right which made me lose balance, i got the hang of it without breaks and i almost land 2 or 3 today :D i hope i land a few by next saturday..
totally off topic does anyone have a video or something on ride outs for a fork glide? i cant reach the back peg not sure why :S i keep flipping over the bars :s , this actually relates cause the tailwhip is my step to a fire hydrant :D
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It's not my video but it's the one I found and keep going back to (Cnt do all 5 yet) I learned the cyclone ride outs first but everybody is different, hope this helps :)
5 Fork Glide Ride Outs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbebVnhBN7M#)
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thats what i was looking for! i tried to do the cyclone but i cant reach the peg without flipping over :(
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Quick update.from my.phone! im so close to land that tailwhip i filmed part of my pracctice session :) and i am really close i had a few almost there il do a small edit to show you guys how im doing i just have trouble with the landing my bike starts to roll backwards ???? il upload the video later
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my phone was all crooked :P but yeah there it is tailwhips (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD0UL0FJYHw#)
week 2 or is it 3? i dont know anyway there's my progress
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You really gave a huge big smile to my face! I can see how you want the tailwhip so bad, it reminded me of me years ago when I first started flatland.
Ok what you are doing is kicking the frame and its making you rotate as well as the frame. (ok, it looks cool but is super harder than a normal tailwhip)
You need to push the frame with your foot, not kick.
And let your arms do all the work. Look back at OldYeller's video and get the hang of moving the frame with your arms.
It looks stupid but it really helps alot. It too me years to get tailwhips as I was on and off them. I was so frustrated with them. But when I got some help from actual riders who could to them I had it in a couple of weeks.
And remember its called a tailwhip as you whip it with your arms. Its not a tailkick...I just came up with that ;D ;D ;D ;D
I would make a video to help but I have no bike.
keep trying
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i was gonna ask about that spinning! :) thanks for answering that beforehand.... yeah i want to land that so bad! i almost got it a few times, and i cut the video up to make it 5 minutes, out of a 2 or 3 hour session and somewhere near 30 minutes of video (with some interruptions from a friend i ran into and some people who stepped in front of my phone)
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Im going to borrow this thread aswell.. I got my bike 3 weeks ago, and i have just started out practicing tailwhips, and i made a short video.. The thing that goes wrong for me mostly is that i dont hover over the bars, and as a result i start to fall back as soon as the frame spins around..
But take a look and tell me if you got any tips.. By the way i've been practicing swinging the frame around using only the arms as OldYeller told mad.scientist, and i think i got that part "okay".
[size=78%]https://vimeo.com/52069827 (https://vimeo.com/52069827)[/size]
edit: i don't know why the video says "invalid" in the beginning ???
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mad.scientist: glad to see you're keeping it up! You're getting really close on some of them.
Don't get discouraged, the first tricks tend to take a while, but you're picking up techniques that you'll be able to apply to other tricks that will make them go more quickly.
jhdk: I think it's cool that you're adding to this thread.
The first thing I thought when I saw your video is that you do seem timid about putting all your weight on your foot so you never really get a chance to balance.
This may be because you seem to be traveling faster than I would when learning them. Slow down a little bit and you will have less chance of falling forward. It's a pretty abrupt stop the way you're doing it.
If you're using your brake and they half-way work, you'll have a really solid thing to stand on, so stand up a little bit more.
I think you'll find that with most tricks, there is a point where you and the bike sort of lock in like a single unit and it's a really cool feeling. For example, on a tailwhip you'll have pressure on the tire (maybe a little against the back of the fork) and equal pressure pulling back on the bars, which will make it feel really solid.
It's very rare that you'll feel like the bike is loose and flopping around if you're doing a trick right, so it's a good indicator that something needs to change.
Keep it up guys!
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OldYeller: Thanks for the advice :) Yea i think that is correct, i have been trying to get more weigth on the foot on the tire, because i figured that was one of the things that i do wrong.
I use my brakes, and they are okay. The tire doesn't move when i step on it. Do you recommend braking only with the brake or use the foot aswell? Until now i have been using both foot and brake. I will try to slow down and put more weight on the foot on the tire, and then make a update later.
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Do you recommend braking only with the brake or use the foot aswell? Until now i have been using both foot and brake. I will try to slow down and put more weight on the foot on the tire, and then make a update later.
I'm not really sure to be honest. It happens pretty fast and once the trick starts, it's just sort of a platform to stand on. I can do it with or without brakes, but I definitely use the brake when it's available.
Don't pick up the rear of the bike purely by abruptly stopping the front wheel though. Much like doing an endo, almost all of it is actually done by shifting your body weight. It's an illusion.
They can be done from a complete stand still, but a little bit forward momentum helps, especially when learning. If you notice in the videos above, we're barely moving forward before we start.
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Do you recommend braking only with the brake or use the foot aswell? Until now i have been using both foot and brake. I will try to slow down and put more weight on the foot on the tire, and then make a update later.
I'm not really sure to be honest. It happens pretty fast and once the trick starts, it's just sort of a platform to stand on. I can do it with or without brakes, but I definitely use the brake when it's available.
Don't pick up the rear of the bike purely by abruptly stopping the front wheel though. Much like doing an endo, almost all of it is actually done by shifting your body weight. It's an illusion.
They can be done from a complete stand still, but a little bit forward momentum helps, especially when learning. If you notice in the videos above, we're barely moving forward before we start.
Yea i think up until now i have used mostly my foot to stop the bike and thereby lifting the rearwheel. Thank you for the advice :) It's very nice to be told what i do wrong so early, so i don't spend weeks practicing the trick while having the wrong technique. Damn you guys make the tricks look so easy :P
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Hey! thanks for the tips and yeah i almost land it, i do have a question... every time i got everything ready to ride out my bike starts rolling backwards and that made me fall a few times... how do i stop that and why is that happening?
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Hey! thanks for the tips and yeah i almost land it, i do have a question... every time i got everything ready to ride out my bike starts rolling backwards and that made me fall a few times... how do i stop that and why is that happening?
Rolling back isn't necessarily a bad thing. When you're at a dead stop it's hard to balance and you'll probably spend most of your future figuring out new ways to start or continue to roll some direction at the end of a trick, so remember what's happening now for use later.
I'm going to give you a good way to diagnose your own problems. Just think it through and you can learn just about anything similarly.
Know what went wrong, think of what could cause that, identify what actually happened and decide what you can do to correct for it.
Do that for each thing that goes wrong and you'll eventually have the trick.
It takes two things to roll, momentum and wheels on the ground that are able to turn.
Momentum can come from many sources, but going backwards rules out the pedals.
It could be that you are releasing the front brake just as the rear wheel touches down. Could be your body moving back, then pulling the bike back with it. It could also come from the weight of the frame when it comes back around that then pulls your body with it. It could be your foot is forcing the front wheel to roll backwards sort of like a squeeker. Or some combination of these.
You'll have to pay attention to what you and the bike are doing to figure it out.
Your solution, depending on what you identify, may be holding the brake longer, hitting the other brake at the right time, not rolling your foot down the tire backwards, putting pressure on the forward pedal, etc.
Did you ever learn endos? Riding out of endos, as simple as they are, is a great way to learn how to deal with rolling back at low speeds and getting into and out of many, many tricks.
I hope this helps!
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im not using breaks :P
im still getting endos higher, i thought of the frame pulling me back but about my foot pulling the wheel back i hadn't thought of that :P
jhdk: i saw your video! and i was going to say that you're not standing on the wheel you're too far back
i know it looks scary being over the bars you feel like flippin (i flipped over a few times on my video) you just gotta do it and if you do flip over jump! :D no risk no win right?
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Yes i know that i don't get over the bars enough :P But it's not really that i'm afraid of going over the bars (not in this case atleast), i did go over once or twice and it is quite easy to just jump. I don't know why i don't do it.. Next time will be better for sure B) Can't wait for the weather to become better, so i can get more practice down.
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A lot of good advice in this thread. Old Yeller has some good advice abot analyzing what you are doing correct and wrong. I didn't do that often when I was a beginner, I just kept trying until I got it, but it really helps to break things down..
I helped a beginner pull his first tailwhip a few years ago in the lot I ride. Here's the advice I gave him..
-Bike rolling slow, setup pedal to ride out.
-Start kick with body already as close to the position you need to be in during the trick.
-DO NOT endo into them, just kick the frame with your kicking foot on the peg and the side of your foot against the frame (Easier to kick frame around from back peg, with the foot against the frame, you are pushing the frame with side of your foot)
-I repeat do not endo into them. The ones that went wrong when you endo to high the back tire will just slam into the ground at the 180 degree point. Hold your bike high in an endo standing on the ground and let it whip around, you will see the backwheel just hits the ground..
-When you kick the frame, really follow through with the kick.
-Practice standing on the ground like old yeller showed in his video (props for making that old yeller)
-during the whip, put your weight on the tire, but keep control of those bars, Keep your body over the bars, and the back tire LOW during the entire rotation.
- Also during the whip, use the handlebars to tip the bike in the direction you want the frame to go, at the 180 degree point the tipping of the bike will have to change to the other side. (you can practice this
standing on the side of the bike, like yeller's vid shows.
-The rolling backwards isn't really that strange, you are coming to a quick stop in the beginning, the natural motion of the bike will want to change directions and roll back. Just like it is not unusual that when someone endos the bike, it then switches directions and rolls back.. Just get your foot on that pedal and stop the momentum by pedaling forward..
Hope some of this helps.. Can't wait to see you guys pull it, Keep it up! :)
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thanks for those tips! :) i was taking off from the peg at first but it did became easier to do it from the pedals and set the pedals when i kicked the frame around
but it sure was easier at first to do it from the peg i felt it was more of a height thing for me since the peg is higher than the pedal i could get my body up easier...
i'll get a video update next week hopefully :)
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Yep, definitely do what feels more comfortable to you. If it is kicking from the pedal, do that. I do them both ways, if I'm doing a single brakeless footjam tailwhip, I want the frame to whip around fast then I'll generally kick from the back peg. If I am going into multiple pinky squeaks, I generally kick from the pedal, because I want a slower more controlled rotation for multiples. That's if I'm not starting the tailwhip from another trick..
The reason I was suggesting from the peg is that I believe it is easier to get leverage to kick the frame around faster, it also helps keep the rider from getting up into an endo while kicking. All that needs to happen with that back wheel is get weight off of it and barely leave the ground exactly at the same time the kick happens.
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ok so this is my progress post or something like that, i've been trying out tailwhips for 3 days now.
so far i almost land one :P anyway i have some trouble keeping my balance once the frame goes further the 90 degrees, either that or it wont spin fast enough.
any tips? i'll try to post a video if i get to practice at day when my phone gets enough light to get a nice image.
Tailwhips took me a month.
A MONTH.
You almost get one in 3 days? fffffffffffffffffff
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ok so this is my progress post or something like that, i've been trying out tailwhips for 3 days now.
so far i almost land one :P anyway i have some trouble keeping my balance once the frame goes further the 90 degrees, either that or it wont spin fast enough.
any tips? i'll try to post a video if i get to practice at day when my phone gets enough light to get a nice image.
Tailwhips took me a month.
A MONTH.
You almost get one in 3 days? fffffffffffffffffff
TJ they took me years. I rolled SOOOO many ankles learning them
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well... it's been like...2 weeks now (but 4 or 5 days of actual practice) and i haven't landed it yet :( but yeah i did almost landed one you can see the video :D i recorded the first one the 3rd day i've been practicing (but thats like 2 or 3 hours of endless tries) and the second one a week later i got closer but no landing yet, i hurt my thumb on tuesday so no practice this week :S
i might get one a month into it, actually i was supposed to have at least one landed by friday but my thumb had me off my bike the whole week (i cant grip stuff very hard) actually if you se i posted on october 4, and its october 29 it means i might take a month or more with them
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this is not really relevant to my progress but i got a kid into flatland last sunday! :D i was riding all over the place practicing a few tricks and his mom asked me about the tricks i was doing (not much really just practicing peg wheelies and fork glides and this tailwhip we're talking about here) and yeah, i told them to come hang out at my spot next sunday :D hopefully he sticks to it curiously he was riding an old haro nyquist like me :P
any way i'll get a video for next week see how im progressing hopefully i'll land at least one this time
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Very cool. Spread the word, brotha!
Pretty soon you'll have your own scene with lots of riding buddies.
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updating :D i have no video this week i was practicing some peg wheelies and fork glides :)
on tailwhips i keep rolling back :S i landed a few today but the bike rolled back and i fell :( what can i do to stop that? btw i had to take my back brakes off cause i changed my sprocket to a smaller one and the chain was hitting the breaks :S so no back brakes until i get my new frame, any other options to not roll back? or do something to ride out from that?
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thats the hardest part for me is getting to the pedals. when you get your foot to the top tube get the foot you foot jamed with to the pedal and push that pedal down to get you moving forward and to ride out.
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getting it rolling again its getting hard but i think the bike rolls back cause my jammed foot makes it roll back :P im trying to fix that
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this post is old but im not doing a new one just to get news on my progress with this trick BUT
i wanted to let you know that i finally landed that thing today! :D twice! :D :D 4 months later :P but i did it
i feel like riding a bit more but im close to dead now lol
but yeah all the tips you guys gave me worked, no breaks and from the pedal setting it up and following through the kick it al just clicked today :) i found put a small hop to get my foot on the frame helped me to get my other foot to the pedal :D bad thing is i couldn't get one on video :( i'll get it next time
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this post is old but im not doing a new one just to get news on my progress with this trick BUT
i wanted to let you know that i finally landed that thing today! :D twice! :D :D 4 months later :P but i did it
Well done dude,i bet your well stoked,theres nothing better than the feeling you get when you land something youve been trying for ages,its a feeling everyone on here experiences no matter what level youre at with your riding,well done once again
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That's the best reason to dig up an old thread!
Congrats! :beer:
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AWESOME! Always the best feeling to finally land something youve been trying at for a while!
Keep up the hard work! B)
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Glad to see this thread. Am working on my footjam tailwhip now. Ive been practicing for about 2-3 weeks and can get the frame completely around about 1/5 of the time but cannot land it yet. Im getting there though, just need to practice more.
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Great to hear mad.scientist ! :)
Agree with OldYeller, best reason to bump an old thread.
Someday I hope to bump a really old thread of mine on B-hop whips...
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Almost got it 2 times today before smacking my pedal on my shin and calling it a day. I got it and landed it but then couldnt pedal. I guess they were in the wrong place and my balance wasnt good enough to keep going. Just need to get that landing right.
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Awesome! About pulling it, not about the shin :P
It takes some practice to get the pedals set up every time, but you've got the hard part.
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Landed it today and started to move then lost my balance....so close. I am not having problems getting it around 360 degrees anymore, just landing. For those that can do it, do you get it every single time now?
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9/10 or more. You got to remember I learned them in like 1984 though.
The biggest part of it is honestly just having been in so many screwed up, off balance positions over time that you know how to correct your balance without thinking.
Every trick you complete or fail teaches you something new.
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You got to remember I learned them in like 1984 though.
That puts things into perspective! I learned them in 1986 :)
Did a couple today on my 24" cruiser to be sure I can do them on the big wheels. I empathize with you guys learning them for the first time... I remember landing one for the first time when I was 12 and being absolutely stoked. Good luck!
BTW, kick from the rear peg. That way you can set your pedals for the ride out.
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BTW, kick from the rear peg. That way you can set your pedals for the ride out.
I see that advice a lot and to me it always spread my weight out too much, shifting my balance point way back. Edit: not the right wording. I feel like I'm way back from my balance point. It feels harder to get all the way up to my balance point. Maybe I'm just riding longer bikes.
It also seems like it's easier, but slower to kick from the back peg. Almost like a low gearing vs. a high gearing because of the leverage difference. I don't think I could do a double very easily from the peg, it would be a painfully slow rotation.
When I kick from the pedals, I also push back with my foot so that the cranks end up level. It's not too hard to learn to set them up that way.
In the end it doesn't matter how you do it, just do it ;)
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I see that advice a lot and to me it always spread my weight out too much, shifting my balance point way back.
Yes. I'm riding a 2001 GT Pro Performer and I think it's all about geometry, or in our case, how we learned them a million years ago!
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How crazy is it that there's a 4+ page thread on tailwhips?
4 pages without even drifting off subject. Wow.
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How crazy is it that there's a 4+ page thread on tailwhips?
4 pages without even drifting off subject. Wow.
the fact that it hasn't gone to other stuff is amazing :)
i tried it from the pegs and though it feels easier to get the frame around i always get to far from my balance point and setting up the pedals is not that hard