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Title: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 04, 2012, 06:33:17 PM

edit- this thread is dedicated to the 2nd generation S&M Intrikat frames. The main difference is the additional sizes and lower top tube.

We've added two additional sizes to the line up so the taller riders have more options, 20.5" and 20" to go with the 19.5" and 19" that are already available, something for every size of rider now! I've been running the 20" for a while and I'm lovin' it, it's really comfortable. Solid and responsive. Clean appearance and functional design, 100% 4130 Cr-Mo, USA made, lifetime warranty.


Black and Raw Matte fresh outta the oven!
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/smintrikat_from_paint_19-195-20-205.jpg)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on May 04, 2012, 06:39:27 PM
bang tidy!
I'd like to see a 20" + built up!?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: rick macdonald on May 04, 2012, 07:37:29 PM
Very nice....glad to see it for us tall dudes!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on May 06, 2012, 04:16:42 PM
Post a pic please Cjad?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 06, 2012, 10:59:24 PM
So far, I only have this pic. This is my 20" prototype, but the production models are pretty much the same.
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/3rdPrototype_2011_a.jpg)
I'll have some more pics of other builds soon. Stay tuned!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 06, 2012, 11:04:33 PM

Here's a phone shot of the chrome 25th anniversary limited editions:(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/smintrikat_maddog-smallmedlargexl.jpg)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 08, 2012, 03:57:39 PM
I'm working on a Limited Edition build over here:


http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=420329 (http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=420329)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: getzfafive on May 08, 2012, 11:17:15 PM

The Mad Dog inspired  Intrikat  decals look sick. 


I've been riding a 19.5 Intrikat for the last few months and I've been feeling it. 


Last Friday, I custom ordered a new Intrikat from the S&M website.
Translucent Black,20" TT, 13" rear end,75.5° head angle, 11.8" BB, and 8.125" SO.  I'm really looking forward to it.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: tod miller on May 09, 2012, 12:22:56 AM
Those chrome 25 anniversary ones are SICK.  Perfect tribute to Chris and all he's done for BMX.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 09, 2012, 05:52:30 PM

The Mad Dog inspired  Intrikat  decals look sick. 


I've been riding a 19.5 Intrikat for the last few months and I've been feeling it. 


Last Friday, I custom ordered a new Intrikat from the S&M website.
Translucent Black,20" TT, 13" rear end,75.5° head angle, 11.8" BB, and 8.125" SO.  I'm really looking forward to it.

That sounds rad, I'll see if I can get pics of it being built in the shop.

Welcome to Global-Flat!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 09, 2012, 05:54:17 PM
Those chrome 25 anniversary ones are SICK.  Perfect tribute to Chris and all he's done for BMX.

:)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: getzfafive on May 09, 2012, 10:07:04 PM

That sounds rad, I'll see if I can get pics of it being built in the shop.

Welcome to Global-Flat!


Thanks, seeing some pics of it being built would be cool.



Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: pwh4130 on May 09, 2012, 10:47:47 PM
What's the C2C standover on the 19.5 and 20"?  I rode the 19.5 and couldn't believe how great they felt.  I'm not a fan of the real low standover and the Intrikat is one of the two flat frames I like these days. 
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: metalbmxer on May 10, 2012, 02:47:54 PM
I'm not a fan of the real low standover and the Intrikat is one of the two flat frames I like these days. 

Agreed, I can't ever see myself changing frames for fear of losing or having to relearn certain tricks because of the standover that i've grown accustomed to and trust to feel a certain way on cliffhanger and crackhanger turbines.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 10, 2012, 07:16:55 PM

That sounds rad, I'll see if I can get pics of it being built in the shop.

Welcome to Global-Flat!


Thanks, seeing some pics of it being built would be cool.





I put in a request for my spy cam guy to keep an eye out for it. :)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 10, 2012, 07:19:40 PM
What's the C2C standover on the 19.5 and 20"?  I rode the 19.5 and couldn't believe how great they felt.  I'm not a fan of the real low standover and the Intrikat is one of the two flat frames I like these days. 

The standover height is the same on all the tt lengths, 7.75" c2c. Glad to hear you like how it handles, ride on!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 10, 2012, 07:22:44 PM
I'm not a fan of the real low standover and the Intrikat is one of the two flat frames I like these days. 

Agreed, I can't ever see myself changing frames for fear of losing or having to relearn certain tricks because of the standover that i've grown accustomed to and trust to feel a certain way on cliffhanger and crackhanger turbines.

Stoked to hear that!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 13, 2012, 12:33:19 AM
Joey Felix's fresh ride
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/joeyfelix_intrikat2012.jpg)
G-F's JoWii holdin' down the table of contents in this months BMX Plus!
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/joeyfelix_bmxplus-toc2012.jpg)
Congrats Joey!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 13, 2012, 12:35:49 AM
LA shredder Thawn Ngo's limited edition
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/thawn_limitededition1.jpg)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 13, 2012, 12:42:09 AM
Ryan Russell's custom gold translucent over chrome
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/ryanrussell2012_b.jpg)


(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/ryanrussell2012_c.jpg)


(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/ryanrussell2012_d.jpg)


(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/ryanrussell2012_f.jpg)


(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/ryanrussell2012_h.jpg)
The Russell Hustle


For more, go here: http://sandmbikes.com/_blog/News/post/Ryan_Russells_Whip/ (http://sandmbikes.com/_blog/News/post/Ryan_Russells_Whip/)

Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 13, 2012, 12:51:40 AM
Looking forward to checking Trevor O's ripe cro-moly after he completes his harvest
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/trevoro_greatwhitenorthernnoir_readyforharvest.jpg)
20" with 9"ers- Northern Noir fresh for the pickin's :)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: anthony on May 13, 2012, 06:21:30 AM
What's the C2C standover on the 19.5 and 20"?  I rode the 19.5 and couldn't believe how great they felt.  I'm not a fan of the real low standover and the Intrikat is one of the two flat frames I like these days. 

The standover height is the same on all the tt lengths, 7.75" c2c. Glad to hear you like how it handles, ride on!

So. The SO iop the ltd edition is 7.75?
 
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Paradoxium on May 13, 2012, 02:47:55 PM
Loving these frames, they look very well made with attention to detail. Keep up the good work.  :beer:
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 13, 2012, 05:02:59 PM
What's the C2C standover on the 19.5 and 20"?  I rode the 19.5 and couldn't believe how great they felt.  I'm not a fan of the real low standover and the Intrikat is one of the two flat frames I like these days. 

The standover height is the same on all the tt lengths, 7.75" c2c. Glad to hear you like how it handles, ride on!

So. The SO iop the ltd edition is 7.75?
 

Yeah.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 13, 2012, 05:05:01 PM
Loving these frames, they look very well made with attention to detail. Keep up the good work.  :beer:

Glad to hear that, thank you!  :beer:
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: leeroy002 on May 15, 2012, 12:05:06 AM
are they 9 inch bars on ryans golden steed?

Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: trevoro on May 15, 2012, 06:08:18 AM
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5453/7200878378_88c329559d.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thegoldfi/7200878378/)
here is the bike after being picked.


still getting everything set up right. (my cranks and back wheel feel disgusting. also - KHE affix BBs are...weird. or i've installed it wrong.)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: ckcheong on May 15, 2012, 10:46:13 AM
where to get these?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 16, 2012, 04:44:18 PM
are they 9 inch bars on ryans golden steed?


Yeah, he's rockin' the niners.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 16, 2012, 04:46:18 PM
here is the bike after being picked.

Looks tasty, nice build TO!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 16, 2012, 04:56:22 PM
where to get these?

Hit up Pat at Flatlandfuel.com or reno4130 on Ebay. If neither of those outlets work for you, send me a pm and I'll get you on track.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Bermudaman2000 on May 17, 2012, 07:49:10 PM
Did you get my Pm chad?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 18, 2012, 04:15:51 PM
Did you get my Pm chad?

Yeah, got it, hit you back...
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: D on May 19, 2012, 05:47:06 AM
Are the chrome limited ed. ones going to be in 19" or just (a probably more Mad Dog) 20.5?  Someone is selling the bigger versions on ebay but so far no flat friendly 19" that I've been able to find anywhere.  I want another chrome frame, and this one would be a good one to end up with.....  :)  Look for double pegades again soon......
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on May 19, 2012, 06:20:35 PM
D, we're ready for the dub pegades, bring 'em on!


The LE's were available in 19, 19.5, 20 & 20.5, a total of 25 were made, sold and shipped. There were a handful of 19"ers in that batch, Flatland Fuel might have a few still.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on June 30, 2012, 09:51:49 PM
Trevor Oleniuk's black 20" in action
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/trevoroleniuk_3.jpg)

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/trevoroleniuk_2.jpg)

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/trevoroleniuk_1.jpg)
via Flatmatters bike check
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on June 30, 2012, 09:57:18 PM
Peter Olsen's raw 20.5"
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/peterolsen_1.jpg)

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/peterolsen_3.jpg)
looking forward to checking some clips of Peter on this build soon
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on July 01, 2012, 01:16:10 PM
^cheers for posting!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on July 06, 2012, 05:21:40 PM
^cheers for posting!

my pleasure.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on July 06, 2012, 05:22:54 PM
Aleksi Ritsla's fresh raw 20.5"
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/aleksiritsla_intrikat2012.jpg)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: trevoro on July 07, 2012, 04:35:26 PM
i purchased the 25t sprocket. will report back once it's set up. hopefully it gets rid of whatever slack remains.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: leeroy002 on July 24, 2012, 10:15:21 PM
a couple of stunts on the intrikat


<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/46241075" width="500" height="375" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p>getting ready for southsea (http://vimeo.com/46241075) from lee wilson (http://vimeo.com/user3928994) on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com).</p>

Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: sakis on July 25, 2012, 05:10:35 PM
wow lee nice riding!!!

Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on July 25, 2012, 06:49:55 PM
Geezuz Lee...everywhere I look, your poppin ;)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Paul Chamberlain on July 28, 2012, 02:36:12 PM
Woah!


New toptube lengths in the flesh/metal! New geo too. Looks exciting!


Can't wait to see some more footage of the Pete Olsenator.


Paul
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: bhuffman on July 31, 2012, 02:52:01 PM
So I just got one of these in 19 - I'll be posting a picture up soon. I love the frame, angles are awesome. I know I could get a custom and I know the stock frame will work for most. I'd recommend the frame to anyone, but here a few things I ran into that I didn't like.
 
1. Integrated seat - not a big fan of these, works great just don't like the way it looks. Very minor.
2. Mid BB - overkill. Spanish better and reduces a little weight. Minor.
3. The dropouts. I almost quit flatlanding last night trying to get this to work. I have a 23t sprocket and taking my half link out made the chain too short. Adding back halflink and too long to work with dropout. I had to modify my chain tensioners to work on it plus it's 14mm. I think a 3/8 dropout with cutting lines would be much better plus a longer dropout that would allow more flexibility and let us tall riders pull our back wheels further back for longer CS without having to buy custom. I also have to remove chain to take the back wheel off.
 
Again - love the angles, etc and it's Chad's design so it's whatever he wants, but just stating from my perspective. Thanks.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Paul Chamberlain on August 01, 2012, 12:07:42 AM
It depends on the size of your spindle I guess, but with a 22mm spindle Spanish BB's are way too small. They die very quickly. To feel the difference in weight you need to have a very special talent.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: sakis on August 01, 2012, 12:11:27 AM
i want to say that 10 mm for the backwheel is tooooo weak.
i hate it personally,i snapped all of my nankai axles when i had nankai and the geisha had a problem cause of the aluminium axle i couldnt remove the bearings-cog.
a 14 mm hollow axle is same weight with a 10 mm and so much stronger.
you jsut put it there once and its finished,plus you can find adapters 10 to 14 mm.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: metalbmxer on August 01, 2012, 06:13:12 AM
So I just got one of these in 19 - I'll be posting a picture up soon. I love the frame, angles are awesome. I know I could get a custom and I know the stock frame will work for most. I'd recommend the frame to anyone, but here a few things I ran into that I didn't like.
 
1. Integrated seat - not a big fan of these, works great just don't like the way it looks. Very minor.
2. Mid BB - overkill. Spanish better and reduces a little weight. Minor.
3. The dropouts. I almost quit flatlanding last night trying to get this to work. I have a 23t sprocket and taking my half link out made the chain too short. Adding back halflink and too long to work with dropout. I had to modify my chain tensioners to work on it plus it's 14mm. I think a 3/8 dropout with cutting lines would be much better plus a longer dropout that would allow more flexibility and let us tall riders pull our back wheels further back for longer CS without having to buy custom. I also have to remove chain to take the back wheel off.
 
Again - love the angles, etc and it's Chad's design so it's whatever he wants, but just stating from my perspective. Thanks.

Great insight, Bryan. Having an Intrikat myself, I can see where you're coming from.

First, the seat clamp system works better than the colony i used to have. No slipping!

Second, yeah I see what you're saying about the MidBB being slightly overkill but I suppose with a 22mm it's a great setup. I have the 19mm MidBB installed for my profiles and after some hard side impacts that broke my pedal, no other problems! I also pedal about 45 minutes a day to my spot and back and can rest assured that the bearings are well suited to the load--not to mention slogging through rain a time or 2!

Finally, the dropouts! Probably the one thing i would change on this frame. I cracked the driver cone on my Nankai shortly after getting this frame about a year ago. Maybe it was inevitable, but i can't help but wonder if the Tree Big Balsa pegs were putting an angled load on the axle since the pegs do hang off the end. And then obviously the whole chain adjustment issue could be remedied as well with a new shape....maybe if S&M had Intrikat axle washers available for the guys running 3/8's axles.

I'd personally like to see brakeless versions of the frame without the 990 threads welded on. Would provide for a cleaner look, not to mention, lower production costs.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: leeroy002 on August 01, 2012, 12:32:47 PM
I couldn't get a 23 t to work, so I had to change to 25t with a half link and filed a tiny bit out of the dropouts to get the correct tension, maybe because Chad doesn't run pegs the dropouts don't have to be so big, but there a quite a lot of flatlanders that do run pegs
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: K.Wong on August 01, 2012, 03:01:11 PM
spanish bb on a s&m? wasn't s&m one of the few american companies that took issue with fly bike's spanish bb's name and royalty fees?
chad rides pegless, relies heavily on the cranks/ bb system and the frame is a  'signature' frame, so....
and what happened to the mtf custom that you won?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 01, 2012, 04:11:53 PM
So I just got one of these in 19 - I'll be posting a picture up soon. I love the frame, angles are awesome. I know I could get a custom and I know the stock frame will work for most. I'd recommend the frame to anyone, but here a few things I ran into that I didn't like.
 
1. Integrated seat - not a big fan of these, works great just don't like the way it looks. Very minor.
2. Mid BB - overkill. Spanish better and reduces a little weight. Minor.
3. The dropouts. I almost quit flatlanding last night trying to get this to work. I have a 23t sprocket and taking my half link out made the chain too short. Adding back halflink and too long to work with dropout. I had to modify my chain tensioners to work on it plus it's 14mm. I think a 3/8 dropout with cutting lines would be much better plus a longer dropout that would allow more flexibility and let us tall riders pull our back wheels further back for longer CS without having to buy custom. I also have to remove chain to take the back wheel off.
 
Again - love the angles, etc and it's Chad's design so it's whatever he wants, but just stating from my perspective. Thanks.

Stoked to hear you're going to try an Intrikat, on the other hand- bummed to hear that your mechanical difficulties nearly pushed you over the edge.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 01, 2012, 04:13:50 PM
It depends on the size of your spindle I guess, but with a 22mm spindle Spanish BB's are way too small. They die very quickly. To feel the difference in weight you need to have a very special talent.

Good point, mid bb's are tough, I've never had to replace one.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 01, 2012, 04:16:14 PM
i want to say that 10 mm for the backwheel is tooooo weak.
i hate it personally,i snapped all of my nankai axles when i had nankai and the geisha had a problem cause of the aluminium axle i couldnt remove the bearings-cog.
a 14 mm hollow axle is same weight with a 10 mm and so much stronger.
you jsut put it there once and its finished,plus you can find adapters 10 to 14 mm.

Yeah, adapters work very well if you don't run a 14mm axle. I've been using them with no issues at all.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Timmy_d on August 01, 2012, 04:19:40 PM
Any advice on cranks size. I just purchased a 19.5 intrikat. The old cranks I have right now are 180. Would you suggest 175 or 170. I also want to use it to ride some street.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 01, 2012, 04:21:59 PM
...maybe if S&M had Intrikat axle washers available for the guys running 3/8's axles.

Great idea Dax, I'll talk to the guys in the shop and see if that could happen.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 01, 2012, 04:33:23 PM
I couldn't get a 23 t to work, so I had to change to 25t with a half link and filed a tiny bit out of the dropouts to get the correct tension, maybe because Chad doesn't run pegs the dropouts don't have to be so big, but there a quite a lot of flatlanders that do run pegs


What size of cog are you running again? I’ve tested 23t with an 11t and 9t and got them to fit perfect each time. These drop outs evolved from the LTF drop outs that were tested by many riders with pegs. During the initial testing of the Intrikat frames we had riders with pegs and various gearing ratios and never had any issues. This minimal style drop out does require a little more precise tuning which can be frustrating if you’re in a hurry to ride, but the design works well and is meant to accept pegs.

A few examples
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/P1010004-1.jpg)
23t/11t w/full link chain


(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/P1010001-1.jpg)
23t/9t w/full link chain

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/SM_Intrikat_Drops_Ryan.jpg)
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/image.jpg)
23t/9t w/half link chain

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/SMIntrikat_KipW_4.jpg)
25t/10t w/half link chain
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 01, 2012, 04:47:52 PM
Any advice on cranks size. I just purchased a 19.5 intrikat. The old cranks I have right now are 180. Would you suggest 175 or 170. I also want to use it to ride some street.

Stoked you chose S&M. 180mm could work, but your heel might be too close to your rear pegs. 175mm or 170mm will also work, I guess it's personal preference. I'm really comfortable with 170mm.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: TRUTH1970 on August 01, 2012, 08:34:23 PM
im kinda worried now that i might  have problems when my frame arrives ( im on a 24t sprocket and a 12t rear cog-old taska freecoaster with big balsa pegs) just hoping i can get it to go on without too much hassle.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: bhuffman on August 01, 2012, 08:36:32 PM
Here's my bike. Man I don't know how you guys break spanish bb, I've been riding those for well over 5 years with no problems. Again the BB isn't a big deal, just like spanish better.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: bhuffman on August 01, 2012, 08:42:49 PM
Here's a pic of my dropout. Probably not a great one. So I have a half link in my chain - if I take it out then the chain is too short, leave it in and I have this issue. Quamen is the only one who makes a 3/8 to 14mm tensioner and I had to modify the bolts, etc so the peg would not hit it so it's kind of working although the peg is definitely off the dropout. Right now I'm looking at either having to change sprocket size which I don't really want to do because I like my gear ratio or perhaps going to 1.5 pegs might help but don't like that either. KHE dubz don't work either. I can't go lower then my front 23t sprocket without replacing my cranks.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: bhuffman on August 01, 2012, 08:47:08 PM
Chad - I'm running a 23t/11t so not sure what's up. Again love the bike just having a few issues hopefully I'll get worked out soon. Stressing trying to get it working before the Anderson comp that's all.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: bhuffman on August 01, 2012, 08:48:28 PM
spanish bb on a s&m? wasn't s&m one of the few american companies that took issue with fly bike's spanish bb's name and royalty fees?
chad rides pegless, relies heavily on the cranks/ bb system and the frame is a  'signature' frame, so....
and what happened to the mtf custom that you won?

I still have the MTF bike. My original intent was to keep it breakless and setup the intrikat with brakes
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: sakis on August 02, 2012, 01:07:58 AM
yeah,24-11 or 26-11 your wheel will move closer to the axle by around 3.2 mm with a bigger sprocket.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: K.Wong on August 02, 2012, 02:40:08 PM
spanish bb on a s&m? wasn't s&m one of the few american companies that took issue with fly bike's spanish bb's name and royalty fees?
chad rides pegless, relies heavily on the cranks/ bb system and the frame is a  'signature' frame, so....
and what happened to the mtf custom that you won?

I still have the MTF bike. My original intent was to keep it breakless and setup the intrikat with brakes

cool to know, it is a beautiful bike.
break out the dremal and sillicon oxide grinding wheel and extend the slot in your dropouts.
i did it with my st. martin- marking out took about 20mins for both side, dremaling took about 5 for each side.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: sakis on August 02, 2012, 05:54:05 PM
actually the frame will work with sprocket cogs,i think.
in mine at least.
25-26 works fine.or whatever size,but sometimes with half link its double distance than the sprocket cog so the peg might be hanging or it can be slamed and you have to break the chain.
at mine the peg is hunging by 2 mm of the dropout and if i remove a half link then the axle might touch the dropout and i have to break the chain to remove the wheel.
with a smaller cog by 1 teeth it will work fine though,so i have to agree with longer dropouts.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: getzfafive on August 03, 2012, 02:29:45 AM
I was running 22t / 9t and my chain was a bit loose using a full length chain.  I switched to 23t / 9t  using a full length chain, keeping the back wheel slammed and it works well like that.  I wasn't really sure about slamming the wheel at first, because you have to break the chain to take the wheel off, but now I really like it, because I know the wheel will never go off center when I'm riding.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: metalbmxer on August 09, 2012, 07:10:29 AM
Ok, so I got really fed up of my chain always getting loose every time I rode so I popped a link out and replaced it with a half link. Odyssey bluebird chain with a London half link on a 18/9 ratio. I had to slam the wheel and put the chain together before I pushed the links in. Not sure how hard it will be to get the wheel off again but I think it's gonna be worth it considering I wont have to worry about the wheel moving around and seeing how nicely the Tree big balsas snug up to the stays and fit flush with the drop outs.

Gotta get some pics up....
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: gpj on August 12, 2012, 05:09:14 AM
I am very interested in this frame, went to the website for custom because I def want a 20.5 frame but I was a little bit put out by the $150.00 shipping rate to Canada. Thats a deal breaker for me.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: oldschoolfool on August 15, 2012, 07:02:12 AM
 B)
 
Here's mine......Well, it was SUPPOSED to be mine and started to go ALL OUT on this build, then realized that I would not be able to finish my Son's build by his 7th Birthday so I decided to build it for him.
 
I had to change plans right in the middle of the build.
 
Hope you like.
 
 ;D
 
 
The day I received the frame, all stock
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/20120516_171320.jpg)
 
Frame number 007......the name is Bond.....JAMES BOND....LOL
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/20120516_172730.jpg)
 
Custom Platform very similar to original Dirt Bike platformed frames. (Not done by anyone from S&M)
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/photo13.jpg)
 
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/photo14.jpg)
 
Frame back from Powdercoaters....my son's favorite color - Ducati Red....did the decals a bit different
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/287871_2284456768828_304898629_o.jpg)
 
Bike was fully completed a few days before my Son's Birthday
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/20120811_185420.jpg)
 
HB "Behind Bars", 7.5 rise, Animal Remix Stem, Odyssey GTX Gyro
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/20120811_185603.jpg)
 
Animal Edwin grips, Tech 77 locking levers
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/20120811_185635.jpg)
 
VERY tough to find BRAND NEW Odyssey EVO II brake in Limited Edition Fire Engine Red
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/20120811_185535.jpg)
 
Odyssey CS2 Flatland fork with Rifle pegs, G Sport Marmoset front hub....Odyssey fork sticker was ugly so I put an S&M one on
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/20120811_185510.jpg)
 
Downtube decal, sweet and simple
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/20120811_190011.jpg)
 
Musn't forget the 25th Anniversary decal
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/20120811_185957.jpg)
 
FIT barstool seat with Cult stubby seatpost
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/20120811_185921.jpg)
 
Another angle of the platform
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/20120811_185934.jpg)
 
G Sport Ratchet Rear hub, 9t driver, Rifle pegs
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/20120811_185811.jpg)
 
Inside shot of the Rifle pegs, light but very strong
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/20120811_185854.jpg)
 
Odyssey EVO II rear brake in black
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/20120811_185711.jpg)
 
London Mod makes the brakes smooth as BUTTAH
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/20120811_185703.jpg)
 
New FIT Indent cranks in 170mm, St. Martin CD sprocket in 24T, Shadow Interlock chain
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/20120811_185739.jpg)
 
Animal Hamilton pedals, aluminum version, black
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/20120811_185750.jpg)
 
Wheels are Primo Balance 7000 Series hoops laced with chrome brass nipples and DT Swiss spokes....tires are Odyssey Frequency G in 20x1.85
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/20120811_185824.jpg)
 
And the final shot.....the LUCKIEST 7 year old on this Earth.....
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o135/diabloDM/Custom%20Intrikat/20120811_154950.jpg)
 
Thanks for looking!!
 
 :)
 
 
 
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: anthony on August 15, 2012, 07:36:01 AM
OMG BRO, THATS A SWEET BIKE, HELL LUCKY BOY.....NICE WELDS BTW
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: oldschoolfool on August 15, 2012, 07:40:29 AM
Thanks! I'm real happy with how it turned out, and my Son is super Stoked. It looks great in Red, if I had kept it I would have rechromed it.
 
 :)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: ckcheong on August 15, 2012, 08:14:47 AM
i just ordered a cutomed intrikat, cant wait until i take it to abuse
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: K.Wong on August 15, 2012, 02:30:18 PM
@oldschoolfool
wow! wish i had a dad like you when i was younger;
very beautiful build.
i thought the newer, lower T.T. version would be more suitable, but kids grow, so...
how would the welds on the platforms hold up as you didn't remove the chrome plating before you welded it on?
you do know that the resale value is gone now that you custom welded a platform rite? but i doubt you'll ever sell it.
24 limited frames left 
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 15, 2012, 04:47:42 PM
im kinda worried now that i might  have problems when my frame arrives ( im on a 24t sprocket and a 12t rear cog-old taska freecoaster with big balsa pegs) just hoping i can get it to go on without too much hassle.

Have you had a chance to build your new ride?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 15, 2012, 04:57:29 PM
Chad - I'm running a 23t/11t so not sure what's up. Again love the bike just having a few issues hopefully I'll get worked out soon. Stressing trying to get it working before the Anderson comp that's all.

Brian, thanks for the pics, I see what you're talking about. I'll share them with the guys at the shop. Your feedback is much appreciated.

Did you get it dialed-in?
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/bryanhuffman_intrikat2012b.jpg)

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/bryanhuffman_intrikat2012a.jpg)

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/bhuff_2012-08-05-7-56-11amflat.jpg)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 15, 2012, 05:13:38 PM
I wasn't really sure about slamming the wheel at first, because you have to break the chain to take the wheel off

This is when the female axle is very helpful, just unthread the bolts and the wheel drops right out, no need to break the chain. Before I had a female hub, I used a master link that was easy to break apart, then removed the chain.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 15, 2012, 05:16:00 PM
Ok, so I got really fed up of my chain always getting loose every time I rode so I popped a link out and replaced it with a half link. Odyssey bluebird chain with a London half link on a 18/9 ratio. I had to slam the wheel and put the chain together before I pushed the links in. Not sure how hard it will be to get the wheel off again but I think it's gonna be worth it considering I wont have to worry about the wheel moving around and seeing how nicely the Tree big balsas snug up to the stays and fit flush with the drop outs.

Gotta get some pics up....

Why is your chain always getting loose? Are you using spacer washers with grooves?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 15, 2012, 05:25:25 PM
I am very interested in this frame, went to the website for custom because I def want a 20.5 frame but I was a little bit put out by the $150.00 shipping rate to Canada. Thats a deal breaker for me.

It's a bummer that shipping internationally isn't more economical, do you live near the border?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 15, 2012, 05:33:26 PM
B)
 
Here's mine......Well, it was SUPPOSED to be mine and started to go ALL OUT on this build, then realized that I would not be able to finish my Son's build by his 7th Birthday so I decided to build it for him.
 
I had to change plans right in the middle of the build.
 
Hope you like.
 
 ;D
 
 
Thanks for looking!!
 
 :)
 
 
 

Beauty, nice work Ryan! Skyler looks psyched. The platform will be sweet for frame surfing, Hawaiian style!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 15, 2012, 05:35:10 PM
i just ordered a cutomed intrikat, cant wait until i take it to abuse

Psyched!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 15, 2012, 05:45:08 PM
Aleksi Ritsla by Julius Salo
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/aleksiritsla_nosewheelie2012.jpg)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 15, 2012, 05:48:32 PM
oldmanjoe's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/oldmanjoe_2011intrikat.jpg)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 15, 2012, 05:52:33 PM
Sakis' custom
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/sakis_custom_intrikat2012_p1050205z.jpg)

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/sakis_custom_intrikat2012_p1050204o.jpg)

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/sakis_custom_intrikat2012_p1050220m.jpg)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 15, 2012, 05:55:51 PM
Aleksi Ritsla and Diego Tejada chillin' in Finland before Flatstyles 2012
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/diegotejada_finland2012_b.jpg)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 15, 2012, 06:00:20 PM
Diego workin'
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/diegotejada_finland2012_d.jpg)

2-page spread in the September 2012 Ride magazine
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/diegotejada_ridespread2012.jpg)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 15, 2012, 06:05:41 PM
Micki Stephan's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/mickistephan_by_nicolealspaugh_7686943218_9d0ba2f11d_b.jpg)

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/mickistephan_by_nicolealspaugh_7686943970_719a86512e_b.jpg)

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/mickistephan_by_nicolealspaugh_7686949516_a5d4a06f08_b.jpg)

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/mickistephan_by_nicolealspaugh_7686943674_da7e8df736_b.jpg)

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/mickistephan_by_nicolealspaugh_7687224344_549d52c487_b.jpg)

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/mickistephan_by_nicolealspaugh_7686951278_06fd38a0b8_b.jpg)

pics by Nicole Alspaugh
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 15, 2012, 06:10:28 PM
Mike Daily and Aesop Rock
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/aggrorag_cover_daily_aesop.jpg)


Aggro Rag is back!
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/aggrorag_cover_published.jpg)


Limited to 500 copies, if anyone is interested, follow these links:

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=442511 (http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=442511)
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=439473 (http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=439473)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 15, 2012, 06:19:14 PM
Serge's LE
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/serge_dsc4818_lg.jpg)

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/serge_dsc4816_lg.jpg)

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/serge_dsc4794_lg.jpg)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 15, 2012, 06:20:54 PM
Lee recently removed the black coat to reveal the raw beaut.
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/leewilson-1024x768.jpg)
via flatmattersonline.com
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 15, 2012, 06:26:27 PM
Fano reppin' at the recent Enjoy The Trick jam in Portland
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/ericstefano_ett_portland_2012_by_mattstgelais.jpg)
pic by Matt St. Gelais

Joe scored a fresh S&M Intrikat with a lucky raffle ticket at the same jam.
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/portlandjoeframewinner_ett_2012.jpg)

Congrats mang!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 15, 2012, 06:29:29 PM
Suicidepan's blacked-out killa
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/DSCF5676.jpg)

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/DSCF5693.jpg)

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/DSCF5692.jpg)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 15, 2012, 06:33:16 PM
Stephen Hearn's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/stephen_dirty_hearn_2012.jpg)

We're psyched to be workin' on something with Dirty and the One Love crew. More news regarding him and Peter Olsen coming real soon!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Bermudaman2000 on August 15, 2012, 07:12:01 PM
Suicidepan's blacked-out killa
([url]http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/DSCF5676.jpg[/url])

([url]http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/DSCF5693.jpg[/url])

([url]http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/DSCF5692.jpg[/url])
What size frame is this?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: oldmanjoe on August 15, 2012, 11:58:40 PM
Lee recently removed the black coat to reveal the raw beaut.
([url]http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/leewilson-1024x768.jpg[/url])
via flatmattersonline.com


I did that to mine last week too. But then I stickered the hell out of it.

I have one more thing to swap out and I'll post up the new version. Tracking says my part is out for delivery.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: seba on August 16, 2012, 02:23:31 AM
sr.  chad any chances to get this sexy frames in 18.5 tt
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 16, 2012, 09:52:21 PM
Suicidepan's blacked-out killa
What size frame is this?


19"

Here's a link to the complete specs:
http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/59104 (http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/59104)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 16, 2012, 09:54:45 PM
Lee recently removed the black coat to reveal the raw beaut.
via flatmattersonline.com

I did that to mine last week too. But then I stickered the hell out of it.

I have one more thing to swap out and I'll post up the new version. Tracking says my part is out for delivery.


Cool, man. Looking forward to checking it when it's all ready.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on August 16, 2012, 09:56:28 PM
sr.  chad any chances to get this sexy frames in 18.5 tt

:)

I will ask the guys in the shop if that is a possibility and get back to you asap.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: seba on August 17, 2012, 05:41:24 AM
thanks you rocks!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: oldschoolfool on August 19, 2012, 03:26:41 AM
@oldschoolfool
wow! wish i had a dad like you when i was younger;
very beautiful build.
i thought the newer, lower T.T. version would be more suitable, but kids grow, so...
how would the welds on the platforms hold up as you didn't remove the chrome plating before you welded it on?
you do know that the resale value is gone now that you custom welded a platform rite? but i doubt you'll ever sell it.
24 limited frames left 


This IS the newer, lower standover height version.....and yes, I won't be selling it. And it is still one of the 25 Limited Edition frames, it's just MORE Limited now.

Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: oldschoolfool on August 19, 2012, 03:28:36 AM
B)
 
Here's mine......Well, it was SUPPOSED to be mine and started to go ALL OUT on this build, then realized that I would not be able to finish my Son's build by his 7th Birthday so I decided to build it for him.
 
I had to change plans right in the middle of the build.
 
Hope you like.
 
 ;D
 
 
Thanks for looking!!
 
 :)
 
 
 

Beauty, nice work Ryan! Skyler looks psyched. The platform will be sweet for frame surfing, Hawaiian style!


Yep!!

Thanks again Bro!!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: jpoliti on August 19, 2012, 10:06:56 AM
the more i see this frame the more i like it....my next frame hopefully.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: oldmanjoe on August 21, 2012, 06:52:32 PM
My latest revision.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg60/EllieandJoe/DSCN0308.jpg)
This decal was purchased for my dirtbike BITD, but never made it on the frame. I like it's new home.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg60/EllieandJoe/DSCN0309.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg60/EllieandJoe/DSCN0313.jpg)
There are still spots of OG black on this bike. I like the way it turned out.



Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: JUGGARNAUT on September 05, 2012, 12:48:07 AM
......20.5 in Chrome,....I cant ride flat anymore Chad, SH!T..
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: TRUTH1970 on September 16, 2012, 05:32:38 PM
hi CJ, a few pics of my custom Intrikat 20.5tt, 13.5rear, 7.35so, 75* head angle in translucant black. im so stoked on the frame, so is my puppy Pippa . i was worried that i might have problems with the chain length ( as some riders have said that they couldnt get it dailed in) but my big basla pegs fit great and chain is just right -im on a 24/12 gearing. though today my seat clamp bolt (intergrated) snapped as the seat hit the floor, i may have over tightend it but it seemed weak from start. overall i give this frame 10/10 i cant see me ever getting a new frame. so props to chad & s&m. peace shane baptiste
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on September 23, 2012, 03:08:30 PM
sr.  chad any chances to get this sexy frames in 18.5 tt

:)

I will ask the guys in the shop if that is a possibility and get back to you asap.

yeah, it's possible to get a frame with a 18.5" top tube custom built.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on September 23, 2012, 03:11:55 PM
hi CJ, a few pics of my custom Intrikat 20.5tt, 13.5rear, 7.35so, 75* head angle in translucant black. im so stoked on the frame, so is my puppy Pippa . i was worried that i might have problems with the chain length ( as some riders have said that they couldnt get it dailed in) but my big basla pegs fit great and chain is just right -im on a 24/12 gearing. though today my seat clamp bolt (intergrated) snapped as the seat hit the floor, i may have over tightend it but it seemed weak from start. overall i give this frame 10/10 i cant see me ever getting a new frame. so props to chad & s&m. peace shane baptiste

Looks sick Shane! Glad to hear you have it dialed-in. Have you had a chance to ride it?

Thanks for posting pics.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: sckain on October 30, 2012, 03:36:32 AM
With the 13.5 rear do you clip your feet on the pegs or has the added length addressed it?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: mewefan on November 20, 2012, 04:48:28 AM
Intrikat v2 19"
Shadow Vultus Bars 8.5
ODI Longnecks
Evo2 Brake
Alienation PBR Rims. Federal v2 Freecoaster
Profile 165's, Fly Ruben Pedals, Odyssey 27T sprocket
KHE Mac 1 Tires
Suelo / Generic Pegs
Flatware Zero Forks
Primo Seatpost
Infinity Seat
Quamen Bar Ends
Opsis Stem
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: metalbmxer on November 20, 2012, 05:21:31 AM
Intrikat v2 19"
Shadow Vultus Bars 8.5
ODI Longnecks
Evo2 Brake
Alienation PBR Rims. Federal v2 Freecoaster
Profile 165's, Fly Ruben Pedals, Odyssey 27T sprocket
KHE Mac 1 Tires
Suelo / Generic Pegs
Flatware Zero Forks
Primo Seatpost
Infinity Seat
Quamen Bar Ends
Opsis Stem

Nice build! Liking the blue!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: D on November 27, 2012, 08:54:43 PM
I want to run this frame with Tree Big Balsa pegs and a tensioner...is this possible?  It looks like the stays are quite short. 
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cunners on November 27, 2012, 10:48:09 PM
also do these take 25 9 with a arf link?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: mewefan on November 28, 2012, 12:38:31 AM
I run a modified Hoffman tensioner on the chainwheel side.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: dug on November 28, 2012, 04:12:45 AM
I run a modified Hoffman tensioner on the chainwheel side.

How did you modify it?
Any pics?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: D on November 28, 2012, 03:47:05 PM
I run a modified Hoffman tensioner on the chainwheel side.

Could you post a pic?  I want to get this frame but I don't want to run without a tensioner.  They make life just so much easier. 
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: D on November 29, 2012, 05:02:37 PM
On a related note, I'm always amazed at how people set up their back wheel to be so difficult to deal with.  A tensioner will let you set up the perfect amount of chain tension, align the wheel perfectly in the dropouts, and keep the wheel from moving sideways as easily when it's hit hard from a side angle.  It doesn't take any extra time to set up and newer ones weigh next to nothing.  It's a must-have for me.  Don't even get me started with the people so set on running their back wheel completely slammed, so they'd rather break the chain every time they get a flat or have to take the back wheel off than have an extra .125 of wheelbase.  I don't get it.   
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: mewefan on December 01, 2012, 02:53:06 PM
Here is a Pic of the tensioner I am running.  Basically, the tensioner comes with 3 different adjuster allen head screws and you have the choose the right one.  Neither fit perfectly, so put a washer on it and had to kind of rig it - but it works.  I am running 27-11/12 gearing (can't exactly remember the freecoaster cog) and have to run a master link and break it at at the master every time to get the wheel off.  If I run it with a half-link more, it enables the removal of the chain w/o breaking it, but it puts the wheel clear to the back of the dropout and the peg is hanging off the back of drop-out.  I agree with your philosophy - tensioners are the way to go - they straighten everything out perfectly and get it all lined up and weigh hardly anything.  But for some reason some guys don't like running them.  Basically, what I have found with the short drop-out frames is that you have to keep a variety of sprockets / gear ratios laying around with tensioners and a half-link / master and hope for the best.  Once it's all sorted it's not really a big deal.  Until then it's an absolute headache.  The simple solution would be to make the drop-out 1/4-1/2 inch longer and include integrated tensioners and then no one would have any problems.  This is a great frame - In my opinion, the only drawback is the short dropouts and lack of integrated tensioners.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on December 01, 2012, 03:06:39 PM
The blue looks great, nice build man! Thanks for posting pics.

Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: dug on December 01, 2012, 04:16:46 PM
is there such thing as a tensioner that also adapts a 3/8 axle to a 14mm dropout?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: jpoliti on December 02, 2012, 04:27:17 AM
i ordered my 19,5" last week and should get it this week hopefully !!
i run 28/9 wich is a bit unusual but i like going a bit faster.

i hope this will work for me, i have 14mm axle casette hub, no back pegs, and use full link chain.

i will know soon...i'm just writing to ask if anyone has the same gear ratio:setup as me, but i doubt it.


Also, i'm a bit confused with the standover height : since im getting the latest version with the S bent chainstay, is the standover still over 8" or has it been reduced to 7.75" ? minor question but i am just wondering.


i'll post pics when it's built !!!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: metalbmxer on December 02, 2012, 04:51:49 AM
Latest version (along with the first proto's) has wishbones with the new 7.75" standover. Middle version had the s-bend chainstays and 8.375" standover.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: jpoliti on December 02, 2012, 08:18:01 AM
well, i've read that the latest frames had switched back to the S chainstay. the one i'll be receiving has the S chainstay and has been built a couple weeks back...so, it's very confusing, i was mostly wondering about the standover...
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: K.Wong on December 02, 2012, 10:33:51 AM
is there such thing as a tensioner that also adapts a 3/8 axle to a 14mm dropout?

yes.
if you are in america, the most famous and probably easiest to source-for are the quamen's pops chainpull/ adapter.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Thomas D on December 02, 2012, 11:43:28 AM
Chad gave those details on http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=420329&p=15 (http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=420329&p=15)

"During 2010-2011 we were testing prototypes with S-Bends and Wishbones. We were looking for a difference in performance and strength, plus testing sprocket and tire clearances. Both stay options proved worthy and I couldn't feel a difference. The only difference to me was the appearance (and of course the construction). As far as production goes, it does get a little confusing, but here are the details.

2011    Production #1 (S-Bends) full batch
2011.5  Production #2 (Wishbone) fill batch
2012    Production #3 (Wishbone) fill batch
2012    Production LE (S-Bends, Lower Standover and Limited Edition Graphics) batch of 25
2012.5  Production #4 (S-Bends and Lower Standover) full batch"



Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: jpoliti on December 02, 2012, 11:52:22 AM
merci Thomas !
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Thomas D on December 04, 2012, 10:36:57 PM
Chrome 20" with S-bends chainstays that i built with old parts.

Best frame i ever had. True pleasure to ride !
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Mr.Archon on December 04, 2012, 10:50:30 PM
Chrome 20" with S-bends chainstays
what bars are those?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Thomas D on December 04, 2012, 11:01:50 PM
Hoffman Low Drag Bars made in  1997 or something. 0 upsweep, 6°back i think and about 8" high.

Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: dug on December 04, 2012, 11:06:30 PM
is there such thing as a tensioner that also adapts a 3/8 axle to a 14mm dropout?

yes.
if you are in america, the most famous and probably easiest to source-for are the quamen's pops chainpull/ adapter.

thank you--didn't know they existed!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: K.Wong on December 05, 2012, 11:58:06 AM
is there such thing as a tensioner that also adapts a 3/8 axle to a 14mm dropout?

yes.
if you are in america, the most famous and probably easiest to source-for are the quamen's pops chainpull/ adapter.

thank you--didn't know they existed!

most welcomed.
 
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Thomas D on December 27, 2012, 10:26:18 AM
More pictures with 8,5" bars
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: The apprentice on January 16, 2013, 11:57:07 PM
Very Nice looks roomie enough for all us fat boys :ph34r:
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Lee. on February 05, 2013, 06:13:40 AM
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh313/vtec718/IMG_20130130_233752.jpg)
My 19" LE with a custom copper coat. Love this thing, hands down the best frame I've ever ridden.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on February 05, 2013, 08:40:59 AM
([url]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh313/vtec718/IMG_20130130_233752.jpg[/url])
My 19" LE with a custom copper coat. Love this thing, hands down the best frame I've ever ridden.


Niceeeee!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: bhuffman on February 05, 2013, 02:22:48 PM
Glad you like it Lee, almost as nice as mine!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: mare on June 26, 2013, 02:49:12 PM
here is mine :)
(http://shrani.si/f/2o/Fb/4aQLc2hO/intrikat.jpg)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: azflatlander on July 02, 2013, 02:57:57 AM
Cheers!!! :beer: To a Great Frame made by a Great Company  :beer:

True RIDER owned and produced BMX products for the True Riders of BMX.  :beer:

A company that listens to their customers in every way, shape or form from Day One  B)

I salute S &M for a job well done!  :beer:

Thanks for entering the Flatland Game once again and showing all the rest what Quality really is  :beer:

How many S&M frames have I broke? None!!! My Sabbath still kicks Arse! as well as Baby Sabbath " Trinkat" B)

Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Chris_Hansen on July 12, 2013, 09:38:49 PM
My ride before my front wheel took a crap.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: dug on July 13, 2013, 12:56:53 AM
My ride before my front wheel took a crap.

nice bike and riding spot!
whats the top tube on your frame?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Chris_Hansen on July 13, 2013, 04:01:22 AM
^Thanks. Its the 19".
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: VisionStreetWear on July 13, 2013, 05:37:32 AM
Excellent ride man!

On a side note..your name/pic/tagline had me cracking up lol

"what were your intentions tonight?" lol
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: MaineOnePlus3 on July 20, 2013, 04:28:48 PM
My 19.5"  Haven some issues with the rear dropouts though :0

(http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/passedrab/20130720_090242.jpg)

(http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/passedrab/20130720_090231.jpg)

(http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/passedrab/20130720_090221.jpg)

(http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/passedrab/20130720_090211.jpg)


Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: byke on July 20, 2013, 06:07:54 PM
WHAT CRANKS ARE THEY?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: MaineOnePlus3 on July 20, 2013, 10:16:36 PM
Eastern pro.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: azflatlander on July 21, 2013, 06:21:06 AM
What issue are you having with the drop outs  ::)

I noticed that your chain has alot of slack in it... Could it be an adjustment issue  ::)

If so.. there is an easy fix to this  :beer:


It's just a matter of calculation between the drop out length and the number of teeth your sprocket has in order to get it where you want rest the wheel in the drop out  :)

I bet you're running a 25t  ::)

You can go down or up, but you have to skip two teeth in order to get the ideal adjustment within the drop outs length  B)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on July 21, 2013, 06:58:45 AM
I recently went through this issue w/my Intrikat. With help frm MAYTRICKS it was solved but not before going through some gear and chain adjustments. Running a geisha 9t coaster we  tried my regular gear 23t then 25t but both  didn't go well w/the chain. I wanted to put chain tencioners but this clearly wasn't going to happen so i at least wanted to run the wheel all the way foward to have min wheelbase. Lastly MAYTRICKS found a 24t sprocket he had and this worked perfectly but the chain has to be taken apart to remove wheel.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: metalbmxer on July 21, 2013, 07:41:00 AM
I solved my chain issues with the odyssey bluebird chain and used the halflink. With a new chain there is a setting in/stretching period, so at first you may need run it longer. Then you can pop the chain off and use the shorter end.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: azflatlander on July 21, 2013, 08:21:01 AM
Opps!  ::) I forgot to mention the rear cog size... The formula I gave you was with a 11t cog size using a 3/8 axle and yes, the 24t cog size will work with the 9t  :beer:

But, with this rear end being at such a tight tolerance, you don't need to run tensiors. The chain plays in the sizing as well..

For example.. a regular chain with a half link or a full half link chain will vary in how much room is in the drop out  :beer:

The size of the axle will change this as well  3/8 vs 14mm
 
But once you find your gearing it is well worth having the back end set at such a tight hearing your wheel go THUNK! Rather than Chainy Rattle!  :beer:

Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: MaineOnePlus3 on July 21, 2013, 09:07:55 AM
Yeah It's 25t/9t 14mm axle
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on July 21, 2013, 09:10:26 AM
Metalbmxer,azflatlander...
That would be my next concern when the chain stretches.Running the wheel all foward is what i really wanted on this ride.Im used to using tencioners but if all goes well ill be good.

I gave up a 2011 Strowler cause of this similar problem of short dropouts. I was about to rid myself of this Intrikat as well but decided to try fix it.Its a great frame and i would had missed out of how great it rides!
 ;D :beer: :beer:
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on July 21, 2013, 09:14:20 AM
Yeah It's 25t/9t 14mm axle

Good to know if i decided to get 14mm coaster.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: MaineOnePlus3 on July 24, 2013, 02:46:51 AM
Got it all sorted.  Working like a charm 25t/9t!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: mouser on August 18, 2013, 06:37:14 PM
My Intrikat frame.  Loving it.  Integrated chain  tensioners would have been awesome, but i've been using the Simple Slammers and they work fine for me.



Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: mouser on August 18, 2013, 06:40:18 PM
and a tip i got from another rider regarding dropouts too small for traditional chain tensioners...

Grub screws can be pretty handy chain tensioners.  Just jam them in the space between the dropout and the axle.  Most hardware stores carry a ton of different sizes for cheap, so you can find the size that you need.  Not the most graceful solution, but its worked for me in the past.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: metalbmxer on August 18, 2013, 09:10:20 PM
My Intrikat frame.  Loving it.  Integrated chain  tensioners would have been awesome, but i've been using the Simple Slammers and they work fine for me.

Nice bike bro, unique color too!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on September 09, 2013, 11:18:41 PM

My Intrikat  :beer:


(http://imageshack.us/a/img266/4461/wvmt.jpg)



(http://imageshack.us/a/img194/8377/xyob.jpg)



(http://imageshack.us/a/img850/9805/wfz3.jpg)



Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Phatman on September 09, 2013, 11:59:02 PM
Oh f*ck Yeah Trev!! What length?! What made you leave the Tocco? I'm in shock lol, you're back on a "Flatland" Frame!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on September 10, 2013, 12:06:13 AM
No chance, Tocco is a keeper, just  has a different role now..

This thing is for sale: http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?topic=59228.msg454184#new (http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?topic=59228.msg454184#new)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Phatman on September 10, 2013, 12:12:03 AM
That's a shame man, it looks great! Even though you wont be getting your hands on mine, i think a Benny L would really suit you! You should check out the new colours too! Smoke Red, Smoke Black & a Matte Black to Raw Fade!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on October 04, 2013, 06:01:18 AM
So,does S&M have any future plans to make the dropouts on the Intrikat a bit longer for adjustment issues? Im about to give up mine cause of this. Its a very solid frame an its fustrating something like this can ruin keeping it.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: metalbmxer on October 04, 2013, 07:29:56 PM
So,does S&M have any future plans to make the dropouts on the Intrikat a bit longer for adjustment issues? Im about to give up mine cause of this. Its a very solid frame an its fustrating something like this can ruin keeping it.

Even if they would just mill the slots a hair deeper.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Phatman on October 04, 2013, 07:36:02 PM
I think S&M should do a smaller Intrikat also! My Friend is 5'5 & I honestly think after seeing him ride a couple of my longer Frames, I really do think a 19" x 13" Frame would hinder his progression.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on October 04, 2013, 07:52:42 PM
So,does S&M have any future plans to make the dropouts on the Intrikat a bit longer for adjustment issues? Im about to give up mine cause of this. Its a very solid frame an its fustrating something like this can ruin keeping it.

Even if they would just mill the slots a hair deeper.

Crossed my mind doing some sort of custom resolve but am not gonna risk ruining a bran new frame.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on October 06, 2013, 10:39:04 AM
I think S&M should do a smaller Intrikat also! My Friend is 5'5 & I honestly think after seeing him ride a couple of my longer Frames, I really do think a 19" x 13" Frame would hinder his progression.
Yes,Intrikat is a great frame it should have some options.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on October 14, 2013, 03:39:30 PM
It's been a minute since I checked this thread...stoked to see all the pics. Thanks to the members offering tech advice, much appreciated.

Here's a couple examples:

23-9t
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/23-9t_1_zpse74a7abc.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/23-9t_1_zpse74a7abc.jpg.html)
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/23-9t_2_zps4cf65a5d.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/23-9t_2_zps4cf65a5d.jpg.html)

25-9t
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/25-9t_1_zps97dfe2ae.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/25-9t_1_zps97dfe2ae.jpg.html)
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/25-9t_2_zps55bbd975.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/25-9t_2_zps55bbd975.jpg.html)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on October 14, 2013, 03:46:50 PM
and a tip i got from another rider regarding dropouts too small for traditional chain tensioners...

Grub screws can be pretty handy chain tensioners.  Just jam them in the space between the dropout and the axle.  Most hardware stores carry a ton of different sizes for cheap, so you can find the size that you need.  Not the most graceful solution, but its worked for me in the past.


Agreed. I've also used a ball bearing...
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/25-9t_3_zps33697fb6.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/25-9t_3_zps33697fb6.jpg.html)
The chrome finish is slick and the jamming method helps keep the axle in one place while tightening it up.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on October 14, 2013, 05:52:44 PM
Thanks for pics ,am sure this will help. ;D
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Phatman on October 14, 2013, 07:45:50 PM
I wish customs weren't so F U C K I N G expensive!! I really wouldn't change a lot! 74 Degree Head Tube Angle, Lowest Stand Over Height & Brakeless, I'd even go with a regular Gloss Black to save money on the crazy paint prices, Gloss Clear Coat would be my No.1 Choice though! but i just cannot afford that kinda wedge!!

I got my Autum & I'm gunna ride it for about a year & in that time hopefully i will have saved up enough for a Custom. I've always wanted an Intrikat, there's just a few things i NEED to change!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: leeroy002 on October 14, 2013, 07:56:29 PM
Wish I hadn't sold my intrikat, ah well, the Waltz is lighter and I don't have to jump so high over the top tube , What's up with autumn topsey?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on October 14, 2013, 08:00:10 PM
Wish I hadn't sold my intrikat, ah well, the Waltz is lighter and I don't have to jump so high over the top tube , What's up with autumn topsey?
Josh is putting it to bloody good use though!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: leeroy002 on October 14, 2013, 08:15:45 PM
that he is, really suits his style
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Phatman on October 14, 2013, 08:55:12 PM
Wish I hadn't sold my intrikat, ah well, the Waltz is lighter and I don't have to jump so high over the top tube , What's up with autumn topsey?

Absolutely nothing at all, it's an UH MAY ZING Frame & i really cannot wait to get it built up at the end of the month & hopefully get some riding in before winter really sets in! I've always liked the Intrikats, i had planned on getting a Custom one when they first came out, I hassled the living beejebus out of Chad & ultimately couldn't afford it. The Autum is kinda an experiment, i am really not an advocate for Removable Mounts, BUT... I have their Zero Forks with Removable Mounts & i can just mess around riding & see what configuration i prefer & see about buying one or two new things for the Bike probably this time next year (It's my Birthday tomorrow haha, so i have extra cash!) & just experiment some more. I do prefer to pick one set up & stick with, but i also like having new shiny parts lolages! :D Hopefully if i can save enough next year i might well be able to get me an Intrikat.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Bri-jon on October 18, 2013, 03:09:04 AM
Wish I hadn't sold my intrikat, ah well, the Waltz is lighter and I don't have to jump so high over the top tube , What's up with autumn topsey?
Josh is putting it to bloody good use though!


Josh Bryers?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on October 18, 2013, 09:26:55 AM
yup!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 07, 2013, 05:16:43 PM
These Simple slammers will make dialing in your rear wheel hassle-free.
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/simple_slammer_1_zps00019ba3.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/simple_slammer_1_zps00019ba3.jpg.html)
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/simple_slammer_2_zps0e8ae5ca.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/simple_slammer_2_zps0e8ae5ca.jpg.html)

More info over here: http://simplebmx.com/products/wheel-slammer/wheel-slammer/ (http://simplebmx.com/products/wheel-slammer/wheel-slammer/)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 07, 2013, 05:31:31 PM
Another thing to keep in mind when dialing-in your rear wheel is the width of your rear hub. S&M frames are built to fit the widest hub on the market, I think it's the Profile cassettes and most freecoasters are a few millimeters less wide, so it's a good idea to fill that gap with spacers. I suggest placing the spacers between the cone nut and lock nut, the lock nuts should be directly next to the drop-outs. It's best when the tubing can rest in it's natural form with no flexing of the frame stays when the wheel is installed.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 07, 2013, 05:37:37 PM
Beside riding, we've been having some fun building over here: http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=524679&p=7 (http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=524679&p=7)


(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/2013_build-off_letter_zps3a35db6c.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/2013_build-off_letter_zps3a35db6c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: jm on November 08, 2013, 07:57:07 AM
Nice
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: leeroy002 on November 10, 2013, 03:42:46 PM
So to run the rear wheel slammed at the deepest part of the dropouts so the pegs actually sit fully on the dropouts  the best ratio is 24 \9 ?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: DaddyCool on November 10, 2013, 03:59:59 PM
Hi,

I would really like to know if this can help here:
http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?topic=54332.msg442267#msg442267 (http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?topic=54332.msg442267#msg442267)

Chad, couldn't one just make the dropouts 1 cm longer to solve all these problems?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 12, 2013, 03:53:47 PM
So to run the rear wheel slammed at the deepest part of the dropouts so the pegs actually sit fully on the dropouts  the best ratio is 24 \9 ?

With a regular chain it gets the axle a little past the halfway point, I'll get some pics of a 24-9t set-up soon...
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 12, 2013, 03:55:17 PM
Hi,

I would really like to know if this can help here:
[url]http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?topic=54332.msg442267#msg442267[/url] ([url]http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?topic=54332.msg442267#msg442267[/url])

Chad, couldn't one just make the dropouts 1 cm longer to solve all these problems?



We're always working on something new around here...
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: leeroy002 on November 12, 2013, 10:50:31 PM
when i had the 19tt a couple of yrs ago, i  ground the dropouts further back so i wouldnt need a tensioner and the pegs wernt hanging back off the dropouts, i had to split the chain to take the wheel off , but it was worth it, i really dont want to do that again ,so ive ordered a 24 t, fingers crossed it works

Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: leeroy002 on November 12, 2013, 10:51:40 PM
what sort of chain would make it nice and tight chad??
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 15, 2013, 03:02:12 PM
Here's an example of a 24-9t set-up:
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/24-9t_1_zpsea23e77e.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/24-9t_1_zpsea23e77e.jpg.html)
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/24-9t_2_zps1baa1be3.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/24-9t_2_zps1baa1be3.jpg.html)
In this case I used a 6.0mm Simple Slammer to get the chain perfect, not too tight or too loose. The bb and hub bearings roll easily without any issues, plus no chain slap on the frame. Sounds almost silent when riding.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 15, 2013, 03:06:21 PM
I run a KMC SL 1/2"x1/8" chain on my builds. They're lightweight and smooth as butter.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Phatman on November 15, 2013, 03:15:34 PM
Do any of you guys run a Half Link? You do NOT need anything like the Shadow or it's many imitators! A Chain with ONE Half Link will give you all the adjustment you need! Something like an Odyssey Bluebird (Great Chain btw) OR in the not to distant future, Odysseys Key Chain (Look it up, it's incredible!) will see you right & give you the little more adjustment you guys all seem to need!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on November 15, 2013, 03:26:39 PM
Sad about this set up and others on these drop outs is the pegs are not completely on em.
Intrikat's frames would be Perfect with longer drop outs and integrated tencioners.
My opinion respectfully.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 15, 2013, 04:00:26 PM
Do any of you guys run a Half Link? You do NOT need anything like the Shadow or it's many imitators! A Chain with ONE Half Link will give you all the adjustment you need! Something like an Odyssey Bluebird (Great Chain btw) OR in the not to distant future, Odysseys Key Chain (Look it up, it's incredible!) will see you right & give you the little more adjustment you guys all seem to need!

I don't currently run a half-link chain, but I have in the past. I prefer regular chains for the gear ratio I run, but half links may work better for others.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 15, 2013, 04:08:40 PM
Sad about this set up and others on these drop outs is the pegs are not completely on em.
Intrikat's frames would be Perfect with longer drop outs and integrated tencioners.
My opinion respectfully.

Just curious, why do you need the whole peg on the drop-out? Most modern bikes use minimal drop-outs and sometimes the pegs will go slightly past the end. The guys I ride with that run pegs never have issues with that.

Thanks for your feedback, much respect.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: D on November 15, 2013, 04:50:35 PM
Chad, I always though it would be bad for the axles/dropouts if the peg hangs 1/2 off the back, but maybe that's just a thought held over from the days when our paper thin GT drops would bend when our Tioga Roll On pegs bent a non heat treated axle.  A lot has changed since those days.   


I'm not sure if it's something we'd need to still worry about still, but those habits die hard I guess.  I know you haven't run pegs in years but what do you think?   


I'm a bit of an anomaly these days since I'm one of the few that still runs 1.75" diameter pegs and I like to set the back end up at around 13.25-13.5, or as close as I can get it to that.  Since the pegs are so wide, they'll hang off the Intrikat drops pretty much no matter what. Right now on my bike they are nearly halfway off (I run a 30-11 with a half link at the moment - if my math is right that allows for the longest setup on the bike)  So far there hasn't been in any performance issues (I don't ride all that much anymore though) but aesthetically they look better the more flush they are, but more than anything I'd hate to shorten the life of the frame or my axles because of a janky setup, the frame is so nice it would be like putting my foot through a Picasso. 


Anyway, you know how particular us flatlanders are.  :)   
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on November 15, 2013, 07:06:02 PM
Sad about this set up and others on these drop outs is the pegs are not completely on em.
Intrikat's frames would be Perfect with longer drop outs and integrated tencioners.
My opinion respectfully.

Just curious, why do you need the whole peg on the drop-out? Most modern bikes use minimal drop-outs and sometimes the pegs will go slightly past the end. The guys I ride with that run pegs never have issues with that.

Thanks for your feedback, much respect.
Sad about this set up and others on these drop outs is the pegs are not completely on em.
Intrikat's frames would be Perfect with longer drop outs and integrated tencioners.
My opinion respectfully.

Just curious, why do you need the whole peg on the drop-out? Most modern bikes use minimal drop-outs and sometimes the pegs will go slightly past the end. The guys I ride with that run pegs never have issues with that.

Thanks for your feedback, much respect.

Well from past experience bent axles are the main reason. Im sure now there is hardly an issue w/stronger axles,still i feel its necesary just in case or to have peace of mind...one less worry on your build.
This is just a simple issue fix on Again what i consider the one of the Best frames in the market.
Many of us want the option and freedom to build and adjust our rides to our likes. Bit longer drop outs say about 5mm more i think would had resolved many of the chain adjusting issues better more giving the option to the rider to place whatever size sprocket and regular or full 1/2 link chain and be done and ride.
An example to my experience w/2 other frames in comparison to the Intrikat are,
The Waltz rear adjustment it gives. Sure it cannot be compared being the Waltz is Flat only,but i build it w/no issues.However,its lighter but very weak specally those thin drop outs compared to the Intrikat.
My other comparison is the Deco V2. A very similar design but i was able to compare to the Intrikat,the Only advantage over the Intrikat was the simple adjustent thanks to the integrated tencioners.
The Intrikat is a Solid,very lite,super stiff frame and its strong for both street and flat riding. The tubing is indeed high quality but am sure we all know this
At end,if the drop outs were a bit longer to allow for more adjustment freedom,the pegs not hang off and to be able to put or have tencioners....to My opinion the Perfect all around frame.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 15, 2013, 07:28:53 PM
Chad, I always though it would be bad for the axles/dropouts if the peg hangs 1/2 off the back, but maybe that's just a thought held over from the days when our paper thin GT drops would bend when our Tioga Roll On pegs bent a non heat treated axle.  A lot has changed since those days.   


I'm not sure if it's something we'd need to still worry about still, but those habits die hard I guess.  I know you haven't run pegs in years but what do you think?   


I'm a bit of an anomaly these days since I'm one of the few that still runs 1.75" diameter pegs and I like to set the back end up at around 13.25-13.5, or as close as I can get it to that.  Since the pegs are so wide, they'll hang off the Intrikat drops pretty much no matter what. Right now on my bike they are nearly halfway off (I run a 30-11 with a half link at the moment - if my math is right that allows for the longest setup on the bike)  So far there hasn't been in any performance issues (I don't ride all that much anymore though) but aesthetically they look better the more flush they are, but more than anything I'd hate to shorten the life of the frame or my axles because of a janky setup, the frame is so nice it would be like putting my foot through a Picasso. 


Anyway, you know how particular us flatlanders are.  :)   


Yeah, things have changed since the flimsy hi-tensile steel drop-out days, for sure. S&M uses chro-moly drop-outs, plus they're thicker than back then. I doubt they will bend...but, I do hear you regarding aesthetics, there should be a balance. Modern frame drop-outs are similar to fork drop-outs, it's not necessary to have the peg completely touching, but halfway hanging off isn't cool either.

I understand and respect how particular flatlanders are, I'm one too, it's almost a required attribute. I enjoy the challenge of progressing a frame to it's full potential plus trying to make it universally fitting for any rider, while staying within budget and offering it for a reasonable price.

I appreciate your experience and feedback, thanks D! Thanks for the kind words regarding the frame also!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 15, 2013, 07:42:37 PM
Sad about this set up and others on these drop outs is the pegs are not completely on em.
Intrikat's frames would be Perfect with longer drop outs and integrated tencioners.
My opinion respectfully.

Just curious, why do you need the whole peg on the drop-out? Most modern bikes use minimal drop-outs and sometimes the pegs will go slightly past the end. The guys I ride with that run pegs never have issues with that.

Thanks for your feedback, much respect.
Sad about this set up and others on these drop outs is the pegs are not completely on em.
Intrikat's frames would be Perfect with longer drop outs and integrated tencioners.
My opinion respectfully.

Just curious, why do you need the whole peg on the drop-out? Most modern bikes use minimal drop-outs and sometimes the pegs will go slightly past the end. The guys I ride with that run pegs never have issues with that.

Thanks for your feedback, much respect.

Well from past experience bent axles are the main reason. Im sure now there is hardly an issue w/stronger axles,still i feel its necesary just in case or to have peace of mind...one less worry on your build.
This is just a simple issue fix on Again what i consider the one of the Best frames in the market.
Many of us want the option and freedom to build and adjust our rides to our likes. Bit longer drop outs say about 5mm more i think would had resolved many of the chain adjusting issues better more giving the option to the rider to place whatever size sprocket and regular or full 1/2 link chain and be done and ride.
An example to my experience w/2 other frames in comparison to the Intrikat are,
The Waltz rear adjustment it gives. Sure it cannot be compared being the Waltz is Flat only,but i build it w/no issues.However,its lighter but very weak specally those thin drop outs compared to the Intrikat.
My other comparison is the Deco V2. A very similar design but i was able to compare to the Intrikat,the Only advantage over the Intrikat was the simple adjustent thanks to the integrated tencioners.
The Intrikat is a Solid,very lite,super stiff frame and its strong for both street and flat riding. The tubing is indeed high quality but am sure we all know this
At end,if the drop outs were a bit longer to allow for more adjustment freedom,the pegs not hang off and to be able to put or have tencioners....to My opinion the Perfect all around frame.

Yeah, axles and drop-outs are stronger nowadays, but also the tricks have changed. You rarely see anyone hopping in a Death Truck position (which is the trick most likely to bend an axle off the back of the drop-out), most riders are rolling and turbining and I think these techniques are less abusive on a bike than pogos.

The ultimate goal is to have the perfect frame and were constantly working on improving, but it's a long process with many steps that aren't publicly seen. I'll share this info with the guys at the building. Thanks again!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Phatman on November 15, 2013, 08:14:41 PM
Chad, I know some people might get a little annoyed because the Intrikat is like a little nod to Frames of old. I spoke with Ryan about getting a Custom, Custom & he said because of how many Frames S&M are putting out daily they just don't have the time to make a full one off custom. Do You think S&M would make a more "Flatland Orientated" Frame? NOT that the Intrikat isn't but it is not for everyone. I mean you could ride Street on the Intrikat it's not too far off some of the Street Frames S&M/Fit offer! I'm thinking something along the lines of...

74 Degree Head Tube Angle
19" - 19.5" - 19.75" - 20" Top Tube Lengths
72/73 Degree Seat Tube Angle (I really cannot recommend steeper Seat Tube Angles enough!!)
7" Stand Over Height (Something a lot lower than the Intrikat, I know A LOT of people wanted this)
11.8" Bottom Bracket Height
12.7" to 13.25" Chain Stay Length (Basically a little shorter BUT with 1/2" of adjustment!)
Longer Head Tube, 120mm/125mm (Longer Head Tube = Less Spacers = Much Better Look!)
I personally wouldn't mind if the Frame had no gussets, BUT.. A LOT of people would want Top & Down Tube Plate Gussets for i guess "Security" I mean if the Tubing is good & the Weld is consistent & quality, they aren't needed! Especially for Flatland!
As for Brakes, Removables do my f*cking head in!! WELDED Mounts & Guides with Removable Gyro Tabs or BRAKELESS for Mount options. Do it properly PLEASE <3 <3 <3
Integrated Clamp, Fit are offering Investment Cast Clamps now so hook it up on this Frame!
Externally Butted Seat Tube - Saves minimal weight but adds a little flair to the aesthetics.
Mid Bottom Bracket Shell
Overlapped Seat Stays/Seat Tube Junction
5/8ths O.D Curved Seat Stay Bridge.
BRING BACK THE WISHBONE FOR THE CHAIN STAYS!!
Larger Drop Outs, Not like OG Sabbath sized. But sized enough to fit 1.75" Pegs sensibly & like i said up ^ thar ^ 1/2" of adjustment!! MUST BE 14mm! Anyone can run adapters to use a 3/8ths Hub, but a 14mm Hub wont fit in 3/8ths Drop Outs as we all know haha  :P
1-1/4" O.D Top Tube - I'd personally go with something slightly thicker to help with strength.
1-1/4" O.D Down Tube- Again i'd go with something slightly thicker for strength!
3/4" Tapered to 1/2" Seat Stays, Bullet Tipped like the Intrikat or maybe even Flattened out?!
3/4" Tapered to 5/8" Chain Stays, Again like above depending on what S&M is willing to do.
MUST OFFER GLOSS CLEAR COAT OPTION!!! & the Trans Colours are Prime too!

What do you think Chad? Also what do all you guys reading this think of my suggested Frame?

 :beer:
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Thomas D on November 15, 2013, 11:00:46 PM
The length of a chain increases when it's used. It can easily get half a link longer. This means chain adjustement troubles can be sometimes solved by switching to a newer (or older chain).

It appears that some chains fits well to some frames and other doesn't. It's not the frame that has to fit to all the chains !

Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 18, 2013, 12:42:23 AM
Chad, I know some people might get a little annoyed because the Intrikat is like a little nod to Frames of old. I spoke with Ryan about getting a Custom, Custom & he said because of how many Frames S&M are putting out daily they just don't have the time to make a full one off custom. Do You think S&M would make a more "Flatland Orientated" Frame? NOT that the Intrikat isn't but it is not for everyone. I mean you could ride Street on the Intrikat it's not too far off some of the Street Frames S&M/Fit offer! I'm thinking something along the lines of...

74 Degree Head Tube Angle
19" - 19.5" - 19.75" - 20" Top Tube Lengths
72/73 Degree Seat Tube Angle (I really cannot recommend steeper Seat Tube Angles enough!!)
7" Stand Over Height (Something a lot lower than the Intrikat, I know A LOT of people wanted this)
11.8" Bottom Bracket Height
12.7" to 13.25" Chain Stay Length (Basically a little shorter BUT with 1/2" of adjustment!)
Longer Head Tube, 120mm/125mm (Longer Head Tube = Less Spacers = Much Better Look!)
I personally wouldn't mind if the Frame had no gussets, BUT.. A LOT of people would want Top & Down Tube Plate Gussets for i guess "Security" I mean if the Tubing is good & the Weld is consistent & quality, they aren't needed! Especially for Flatland!
As for Brakes, Removables do my f*cking head in!! WELDED Mounts & Guides with Removable Gyro Tabs or BRAKELESS for Mount options. Do it properly PLEASE <3 <3 <3
Integrated Clamp, Fit are offering Investment Cast Clamps now so hook it up on this Frame!
Externally Butted Seat Tube - Saves minimal weight but adds a little flair to the aesthetics.
Mid Bottom Bracket Shell
Overlapped Seat Stays/Seat Tube Junction
5/8ths O.D Curved Seat Stay Bridge.
BRING BACK THE WISHBONE FOR THE CHAIN STAYS!!
Larger Drop Outs, Not like OG Sabbath sized. But sized enough to fit 1.75" Pegs sensibly & like i said up ^ thar ^ 1/2" of adjustment!! MUST BE 14mm! Anyone can run adapters to use a 3/8ths Hub, but a 14mm Hub wont fit in 3/8ths Drop Outs as we all know haha  :P
1-1/4" O.D Top Tube - I'd personally go with something slightly thicker to help with strength.
1-1/4" O.D Down Tube- Again i'd go with something slightly thicker for strength!
3/4" Tapered to 1/2" Seat Stays, Bullet Tipped like the Intrikat or maybe even Flattened out?!
3/4" Tapered to 5/8" Chain Stays, Again like above depending on what S&M is willing to do.
MUST OFFER GLOSS CLEAR COAT OPTION!!! & the Trans Colours are Prime too!

What do you think Chad? Also what do all you guys reading this think of my suggested Frame?

 :beer:



Hey Jon, your suggested frame specs would make a great Topsey signature model! I like how you've put some thought into it.

Yeah, a nod to the frames of old is apparent but, the overall classic BMX look is the result of tested and proven geometry. It’s not to mimic an old school or street bike. S&M has over 25 years experience of building frames so they’ve gathered a vast amount of knowledge regarding bicycle geometry and machining. They’re on the cutting edge of BMX technology, constantly testing, while raising the bar. Maybe you’re referring to the throwback graphics from 2012? They were the 25th Anniversary Limited Edition (25 chrome, 25 white) frames that we did as a celebration for the occasion, but were not stuck in the past or anything like that. If you look at the details, you’ll see that this frame is very much modern flatland oriented. I ride flat most of the time, but it’s comforting to know this frame will handle street on the way to different flat spots. The S&M Intrikat offers features not found on any other flatland frame. For example, I’m really stoked on the chainstays, how they taper and have Bullet-Tip ends rather than welded caps. It provides a shoe-friendly surface when your foot is on the rear pegs, plus it looks super-clean and best of all it’s really strong. Also, we use Butted True Temper Super Therm tubing. I’m proud to say that all these frames are 100% made in the USA, right here in Southern California where we’re able to oversee the entire process from choosing materials to quality-checking every item before it leaves the building.

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/intk_RAW_web1.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/intk_RAW_web1.jpg.html)


Chainstay detail
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/P1010005.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/P1010005.jpg.html)

Dax Wolford
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/dax_wolford_intrikat_3.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/dax_wolford_intrikat_3.jpg.html)

Portland Joe
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/2012_joe_loumena_intrikat_3_zps44dbbf45.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/2012_joe_loumena_intrikat_3_zps44dbbf45.jpg.html)

Dirty Dirty (with chain tensioners)
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/stephen_dirty_hearn_2012.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/stephen_dirty_hearn_2012.jpg.html)

SIN
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/sin-sabbath_intrikat_13.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/sin-sabbath_intrikat_13.jpg.html)

Mewefan (with chain tensioners)
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/mewefan_globalflat_dropout_detail.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/mewefan_globalflat_dropout_detail.jpg.html)

Outdrstr  (accepts Profile cassette hub, I believe the widest on the market)
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/outdrstr_BD1C5BD9-7C8A-45E4-97A8-E5F40F11AAF6.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/outdrstr_BD1C5BD9-7C8A-45E4-97A8-E5F40F11AAF6.jpg.html)


The Sabbath inspired gusset under the down tube serves multiple purposes: to provide more support, less flex on the headtube and also to create extra space around the front tire for various front wheel tricks.
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/ryanrussell2012_e.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/ryanrussell2012_e.jpg.html)
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/jameswhite_forkpeg_1_zpsb18bd9da.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/jameswhite_forkpeg_1_zpsb18bd9da.jpg.html)


...and a few examples of complete riders:

James White
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/jameswhite_4down_1_zps2fdcbad1.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/jameswhite_4down_1_zps2fdcbad1.jpg.html)

Peter Olsen
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/peterolsen_1.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/peterolsen_1.jpg.html)

Tim Knoll (photo found here: http://digbmx.mpora.com/news/set-ups-tim-knoll/ (http://digbmx.mpora.com/news/set-ups-tim-knoll/) )
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/tim_knoll_dig_bc_4908_zpsd0981bb9.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/tim_knoll_dig_bc_4908_zpsd0981bb9.jpg.html)

Aleksi Ritsla
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/aleksiritsla_intrikat2012.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/aleksiritsla_intrikat2012.jpg.html)

Martti Kuoppa
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/martti_bad_mf_zps335e1b50.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/martti_bad_mf_zps335e1b50.jpg.html)

You can order a custom, the shop is definitely busy and there’s a waiting list, but it can be done. Maybe Ryan meant it couldn’t get done at that time. Here’s a link to the custom order page:

http://store.sandmbikes.com/Custom-Frames_c_48.html (http://store.sandmbikes.com/Custom-Frames_c_48.html)

For complete specs on the stock frame:

http://store.sandmbikes.com/INTRIKAT-FRAME_p_741.html#.UokH8a79Uek (http://store.sandmbikes.com/INTRIKAT-FRAME_p_741.html#.UokH8a79Uek)

Thanks again,
 :beer:
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 18, 2013, 12:43:07 AM
The length of a chain increases when it's used. It can easily get half a link longer. This means chain adjustement troubles can be sometimes solved by switching to a newer (or older chain).

It appears that some chains fits well to some frames and other doesn't. It's not the frame that has to fit to all the chains !


good point, thanks!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: leeroy002 on November 18, 2013, 07:38:37 AM
(http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv72/leeroy002/WP_000484.jpg) (http://s671.photobucket.com/user/leeroy002/media/WP_000484.jpg.html)


19.5 with 36mm enduro stem
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Revig on November 18, 2013, 10:33:54 AM
Do You think S&M would make a more "Flatland Orientated" Frame?
I'm thinking something along the lines of...
...

Mid Bottom Bracket Shell
...

Also what do all you guys reading this think of my suggested Frame?


Really bad idea

Sometimes the screw that hold the sprocket on the crank arm is loosing, then sometimes, you have to retighten it in order to not lose the screw more. That thing happens in a regular basic with a bike that is used a lot or not and that's really not a big deal ; just tight the screw on the sprocket, it that takes 3 minutes maximum and it's ready for a other round,

Parts makers, and specially crank makers, came few years ago with a new standard regarding that screw on the crank arm: in order to allow the use of micro gearing sprockets (less that 22 teeth), there is that new position for a screw on the crank arm, closer to the axle crank.

Have you ever experimented to retight the sprocket screw on a micro gearing crank that is on a frame with mid BB?

I can warm you that you will need more tools than one allen key and really more time than 3 minutes to do it!


On a side note, I don't understand how some current frame makers can propose flatland frames with mid bb. Not every flatland rider can buy a spine drive sprocket and a profile crank (or other with 48 spline axle) when they buy a new frame and want to keep riding with micro gearing. Lack of testing, lack of flatland market's consideration, lack of means and willingness to do these steps properly are some reasons I guess.
 
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: D on November 18, 2013, 04:14:29 PM
Chad, I always though it would be bad for the axles/dropouts if the peg hangs 1/2 off the back, but maybe that's just a thought held over from the days when our paper thin GT drops would bend when our Tioga Roll On pegs bent a non heat treated axle.  A lot has changed since those days.   


I'm not sure if it's something we'd need to still worry about still, but those habits die hard I guess.  I know you haven't run pegs in years but what do you think?   


I'm a bit of an anomaly these days since I'm one of the few that still runs 1.75" diameter pegs and I like to set the back end up at around 13.25-13.5, or as close as I can get it to that.  Since the pegs are so wide, they'll hang off the Intrikat drops pretty much no matter what. Right now on my bike they are nearly halfway off (I run a 30-11 with a half link at the moment - if my math is right that allows for the longest setup on the bike)  So far there hasn't been in any performance issues (I don't ride all that much anymore though) but aesthetically they look better the more flush they are, but more than anything I'd hate to shorten the life of the frame or my axles because of a janky setup, the frame is so nice it would be like putting my foot through a Picasso. 


Anyway, you know how particular us flatlanders are.  :)   


Yeah, things have changed since the flimsy hi-tensile steel drop-out days, for sure. S&M uses chro-moly drop-outs, plus they're thicker than back then. I doubt they will bend...but, I do hear you regarding aesthetics, there should be a balance. Modern frame drop-outs are similar to fork drop-outs, it's not necessary to have the peg completely touching, but halfway hanging off isn't cool either.

I understand and respect how particular flatlanders are, I'm one too, it's almost a required attribute. I enjoy the challenge of progressing a frame to it's full potential plus trying to make it universally fitting for any rider, while staying within budget and offering it for a reasonable price.

I appreciate your experience and feedback, thanks D! Thanks for the kind words regarding the frame also!

And thanks to you, Moeller and McKinney for producing such an amazing bike!  I've said it before, I've been riding since 1988,  I've ridden dozens of bikes from just about every manufacturer, and this is by far and away the nicest and best made flatland frame I've ever seen or ridden.  Just like everyone, I've got my quirks about things, but that doesn't change how great the bike is.  I'd recommend it 100%.   
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Phatman on November 18, 2013, 05:55:02 PM
Some NICE Bikes on this page!


Chad, in respect to your reply to what i said.. Yes i do want a Topsey Signature Frame haha. If i am going to drop $600 to $800 on a Custom I really do want to be able to choose EVERY last single detail, not have it based of another Frame that is someone else's design you know? As i said, I spoke with Ryan & he said that doing a Frame like that (MY Design, not based off an Intrikat) Isn't possible due to the amount of Frames S&M are putting out (Including Fit Frames too!) I really do like the Intrikat, hell i nearly bought one! & if you remember we had a LONG P.M Back n Forth about getting me a Custom done! But i have gained A LOT of knowledge over the past few years & i know EXACTLY what i want & i am not prepared to settle for anything less! (ANAL Flatlander Strikes Again!) No Disrespect meant AT ALL! Just want to do my own thing you know?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: MaineOnePlus3 on November 20, 2013, 06:15:50 PM
(http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/passedrab/photo3-3.jpg)

(http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/passedrab/photo1-2.jpg)

(http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/passedrab/photo5-1.jpg)

Instead of selling it, and hating myself for it, I rebuilt it... similar, but even better than the first time.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on November 20, 2013, 06:25:58 PM
Indeed!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on November 20, 2013, 06:49:27 PM
I sold mine and hope they improve on the dropout issue.  And yes i do regret it. Great frame!!
So close to perfection.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: MaineOnePlus3 on November 20, 2013, 08:08:18 PM
Indeed!

Thanks.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: MaineOnePlus3 on November 20, 2013, 08:11:09 PM
I sold mine and hope they improve on the dropout issue.  And yes i do regret it. Great frame!!
So close to perfection.

I had some issues the first time I set up the bike, but this time I changed the sprocket size by a tooth and the setup was a breeze! (info in this thread helped) Chains locked in tight, with no issues!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: leeroy002 on November 20, 2013, 08:51:12 PM
So what sizes worked for you Maine?????
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on November 20, 2013, 09:21:24 PM
I sold mine and hope they improve on the dropout issue.  And yes i do regret it. Great frame!!
So close to perfection.

I had some issues the first time I set up the bike, but this time I changed the sprocket size by a tooth and the setup was a breeze! (info in this thread helped) Chains locked in tight, with no issues!

Yeah,i followed the suggestions for 24-9 and yeah it was fine but i really wanted 25-9 and the peg being not fully on dropout fustrated me. A little more adjustment n a tensioner i want for the perfect built. AGAIN,its an Awesome frame and a simple fix.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on November 21, 2013, 12:20:43 AM
I've got an Intrikat and I must mention I've not experienced any issue with either 25/9 or 22/9 with 1x 1/2 link in reg 1/8 chain. #thumbsup
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: MaineOnePlus3 on November 21, 2013, 12:52:58 AM
So what sizes worked for you Maine?????

I ran 25/9 with the first build, and after I worked out the self caused issues, I ran 25/9 without any issue.  Now, I'm running 24/9.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: MaineOnePlus3 on November 21, 2013, 12:56:06 AM
I sold mine and hope they improve on the dropout issue.  And yes i do regret it. Great frame!!
So close to perfection.

I had some issues the first time I set up the bike, but this time I changed the sprocket size by a tooth and the setup was a breeze! (info in this thread helped) Chains locked in tight, with no issues!

Yeah,i followed the suggestions for 24-9 and yeah it was fine but i really wanted 25-9 and the peg being not fully on dropout fustrated me. A little more adjustment n a tensioner i want for the perfect built. AGAIN,its an Awesome frame and a simple fix.

When I ran 25/9 my pegs were pretty much completely on the dropouts, I'd say only off by 2mm at the most.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: leeroy002 on November 21, 2013, 07:37:03 AM
Sweet, my 24t profile arrives soon
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on November 21, 2013, 03:24:35 PM
I apreciate opinions and am very glad these setups work for most riders but i also like tensioners for adjustment.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on November 25, 2013, 08:46:12 AM
Damn,i just noticed those Intrikats w/chain tencioners. Those must be super short custom.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 28, 2013, 04:46:09 PM
Chad, I always though it would be bad for the axles/dropouts if the peg hangs 1/2 off the back, but maybe that's just a thought held over from the days when our paper thin GT drops would bend when our Tioga Roll On pegs bent a non heat treated axle.  A lot has changed since those days.   


I'm not sure if it's something we'd need to still worry about still, but those habits die hard I guess.  I know you haven't run pegs in years but what do you think?   


I'm a bit of an anomaly these days since I'm one of the few that still runs 1.75" diameter pegs and I like to set the back end up at around 13.25-13.5, or as close as I can get it to that.  Since the pegs are so wide, they'll hang off the Intrikat drops pretty much no matter what. Right now on my bike they are nearly halfway off (I run a 30-11 with a half link at the moment - if my math is right that allows for the longest setup on the bike)  So far there hasn't been in any performance issues (I don't ride all that much anymore though) but aesthetically they look better the more flush they are, but more than anything I'd hate to shorten the life of the frame or my axles because of a janky setup, the frame is so nice it would be like putting my foot through a Picasso. 


Anyway, you know how particular us flatlanders are.  :)   


Yeah, things have changed since the flimsy hi-tensile steel drop-out days, for sure. S&M uses chro-moly drop-outs, plus they're thicker than back then. I doubt they will bend...but, I do hear you regarding aesthetics, there should be a balance. Modern frame drop-outs are similar to fork drop-outs, it's not necessary to have the peg completely touching, but halfway hanging off isn't cool either.

I understand and respect how particular flatlanders are, I'm one too, it's almost a required attribute. I enjoy the challenge of progressing a frame to it's full potential plus trying to make it universally fitting for any rider, while staying within budget and offering it for a reasonable price.

I appreciate your experience and feedback, thanks D! Thanks for the kind words regarding the frame also!

And thanks to you, Moeller and McKinney for producing such an amazing bike!  I've said it before, I've been riding since 1988,  I've ridden dozens of bikes from just about every manufacturer, and this is by far and away the nicest and best made flatland frame I've ever seen or ridden.  Just like everyone, I've got my quirks about things, but that doesn't change how great the bike is.  I'd recommend it 100%.   

It's our pleasure and thanks for the recommendation!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 28, 2013, 04:53:22 PM
Some NICE Bikes on this page!


Chad, in respect to your reply to what i said.. Yes i do want a Topsey Signature Frame haha. If i am going to drop $600 to $800 on a Custom I really do want to be able to choose EVERY last single detail, not have it based of another Frame that is someone else's design you know? As i said, I spoke with Ryan & he said that doing a Frame like that (MY Design, not based off an Intrikat) Isn't possible due to the amount of Frames S&M are putting out (Including Fit Frames too!) I really do like the Intrikat, hell i nearly bought one! & if you remember we had a LONG P.M Back n Forth about getting me a Custom done! But i have gained A LOT of knowledge over the past few years & i know EXACTLY what i want & i am not prepared to settle for anything less! (ANAL Flatlander Strikes Again!) No Disrespect meant AT ALL! Just want to do my own thing you know?

Haha, I hear you...yeah, I remember the messages. Glad to hear you're doing your research, knowing what you want is key. No disrespect taken. I'm stoked you're doing your own thing man! Ride on.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 28, 2013, 05:00:07 PM
([url]http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/passedrab/photo3-3.jpg[/url])

([url]http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/passedrab/photo1-2.jpg[/url])

([url]http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/passedrab/photo5-1.jpg[/url])

Instead of selling it, and hating myself for it, I rebuilt it... similar, but even better than the first time.



BEAUTY! overall it looks real clean and simple, but the attention to detail is awesome. The way you used different colors like brown and gold to accent the frame is rad!

Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 28, 2013, 05:05:11 PM
I sold mine and hope they improve on the dropout issue.  And yes i do regret it. Great frame!!
So close to perfection.

Bummer about the drop-out struggle for you. I tried to look at them in the picture, but wasn't able. From what I could see the build is rad! Blacked-out with some purple accents looks sick! Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 28, 2013, 05:07:33 PM
I've got an Intrikat and I must mention I've not experienced any issue with either 25/9 or 22/9 with 1x 1/2 link in reg 1/8 chain. #thumbsup

Stoked to hear that, thanks for the feedback.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on November 28, 2013, 05:28:30 PM
No Problem.
Thanks for soh info too! Most helpful.

Trev
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on November 29, 2013, 01:09:06 AM
I sold mine and hope they improve on the dropout issue.  And yes i do regret it. Great frame!!
So close to perfection.

Bummer about the drop-out struggle for you. I tried to look at them in the picture, but wasn't able. From what I could see the build is rad! Blacked-out with some purple accents looks sick! Thanks for posting.

Oh,i aint Done w/S&M Intrikat!!
Im sure some upgrade or solution will come up for those dropouts.
Thanks for response!!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: flatlandpercy on November 29, 2013, 02:41:40 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/flatlandpercy/photo3_zps528b3902.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/flatlandpercy/photo1_zps91b47c3a.jpg)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 29, 2013, 03:38:25 PM
No Problem.
Thanks for soh info too! Most helpful.

Trev

My pleasure.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 29, 2013, 03:40:31 PM
I sold mine and hope they improve on the dropout issue.  And yes i do regret it. Great frame!!
So close to perfection.

Bummer about the drop-out struggle for you. I tried to look at them in the picture, but wasn't able. From what I could see the build is rad! Blacked-out with some purple accents looks sick! Thanks for posting.

Oh,i aint Done w/S&M Intrikat!!
Im sure some upgrade or solution will come up for those dropouts.
Thanks for response!!

Stoked to hear that, S&M Intrikat ain't done either! :) Ride on brutha!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 29, 2013, 03:42:47 PM
([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/flatlandpercy/photo3_zps528b3902.jpg[/url])
([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/flatlandpercy/photo1_zps91b47c3a.jpg[/url])


PERCY!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on November 29, 2013, 03:45:47 PM

More info regarding these spacers:

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/simple_slammers_kickassbmx_zps4a398108.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/simple_slammers_kickassbmx_zps4a398108.jpg.html)


(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/simple_slammers_blackout_zps2e7acbbf.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/simple_slammers_blackout_zps2e7acbbf.jpg.html)


(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/simple_slammers_albes_zps4f617c86.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/simple_slammers_albes_zps4f617c86.jpg.html)


(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/simple_slammers_official_si_zps996ac1db.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/simple_slammers_official_si_zps996ac1db.jpg.html)


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Simple-BMX-Wheel-Slammers-Slamer-Chain-Tensioner-Adjuster-0-5mm-1mm-/261175486392?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3ccf45a7b8 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Simple-BMX-Wheel-Slammers-Slamer-Chain-Tensioner-Adjuster-0-5mm-1mm-/261175486392?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3ccf45a7b8)

Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: MaineOnePlus3 on November 29, 2013, 05:55:40 PM
([url]http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/passedrab/photo3-3.jpg[/url])

([url]http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/passedrab/photo1-2.jpg[/url])

([url]http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/passedrab/photo5-1.jpg[/url])

Instead of selling it, and hating myself for it, I rebuilt it... similar, but even better than the first time.



BEAUTY! overall it looks real clean and simple, but the attention to detail is awesome. The way you used different colors like brown and gold to accent the frame is rad!

Thanks for sharing.


Thanks, I really appreciate the feedback on my bike, glad you approve!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on November 29, 2013, 06:38:47 PM

More info regarding these spacers:

([url]http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/simple_slammers_kickassbmx_zps4a398108.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/simple_slammers_kickassbmx_zps4a398108.jpg.html[/url])


([url]http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/simple_slammers_blackout_zps2e7acbbf.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/simple_slammers_blackout_zps2e7acbbf.jpg.html[/url])


([url]http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/simple_slammers_albes_zps4f617c86.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/simple_slammers_albes_zps4f617c86.jpg.html[/url])


([url]http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/simple_slammers_official_si_zps996ac1db.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/simple_slammers_official_si_zps996ac1db.jpg.html[/url])


[url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Simple-BMX-Wheel-Slammers-Slamer-Chain-Tensioner-Adjuster-0-5mm-1mm-/261175486392?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3ccf45a7b8[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Simple-BMX-Wheel-Slammers-Slamer-Chain-Tensioner-Adjuster-0-5mm-1mm-/261175486392?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3ccf45a7b8[/url])




Interesting Thanks Cj.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: sakis on January 14, 2014, 01:39:17 PM
hello,
i want to ask,
1)is the 13'' that refers to the site for the wheel slammed?
2)can you run your wheel at 13.375 as i dont remember the lenght i had on mine..
thank you
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: dubenhams.com on January 24, 2014, 02:30:22 PM
Hi all, just finished building up my 20" tt
I've also fitted 9" intrikat bars since I took these pics

Bike is AWSOME...rides like you wouldnt believe

anyway, hope you dont mind all the pics...looks even better in daylight ;-)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: sakis on January 24, 2014, 02:34:54 PM
Amazing! Mine is coming next week also,i cant wait!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on January 24, 2014, 03:16:47 PM
...how do i make these crappy little pics bigger  :P
Lovely build!!

Your probably better off hosting the pix at photobucket.com for larger size on here.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: dubenhams.com on January 24, 2014, 03:41:58 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/stevemaddison/bmx/DSC_2803_zps3b2565c6.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/stevemaddison/media/bmx/DSC_2803_zps3b2565c6.jpg.html)

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/stevemaddison/bmx/DSC_2802_zps6e9db999.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/stevemaddison/media/bmx/DSC_2802_zps6e9db999.jpg.html)

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/stevemaddison/bmx/DSC_2816_zps32579b69.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/stevemaddison/media/bmx/DSC_2816_zps32579b69.jpg.html)

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/stevemaddison/bmx/DSC_2819_zpscb6b98e8.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/stevemaddison/media/bmx/DSC_2819_zpscb6b98e8.jpg.html)

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/stevemaddison/bmx/DSC_2821_zpsf50b55a7.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/stevemaddison/media/bmx/DSC_2821_zpsf50b55a7.jpg.html)

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/stevemaddison/bmx/DSC_2823_zpse9c999e9.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/stevemaddison/media/bmx/DSC_2823_zpse9c999e9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: dubenhams.com on January 24, 2014, 03:43:37 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/stevemaddison/bmx/DSC_2827_zpsf430345c.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/stevemaddison/media/bmx/DSC_2827_zpsf430345c.jpg.html)

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/stevemaddison/bmx/DSC_2828_zpsfa18b45e.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/stevemaddison/media/bmx/DSC_2828_zpsfa18b45e.jpg.html)

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/stevemaddison/bmx/DSC_2829_zps86642ca0.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/stevemaddison/media/bmx/DSC_2829_zps86642ca0.jpg.html)

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/stevemaddison/bmx/DSC_2831_zps5c2e6502.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/stevemaddison/media/bmx/DSC_2831_zps5c2e6502.jpg.html)

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/stevemaddison/bmx/DSC_2844_zpsc98f3a45.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/stevemaddison/media/bmx/DSC_2844_zpsc98f3a45.jpg.html)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on January 24, 2014, 03:45:12 PM
Bettererr
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on January 24, 2014, 03:47:57 PM
Old pics of mine :

(http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad333/Flatism/FB73F111-66AB-40E1-A163-CB1792F87C98_zps8kvdhdsk.jpg) (http://s949.photobucket.com/user/Flatism/media/FB73F111-66AB-40E1-A163-CB1792F87C98_zps8kvdhdsk.jpg.html)

(http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad333/Flatism/DFC1D85C-758C-4E2E-83C1-0841126ACB5F_zpsop2reez5.jpg) (http://s949.photobucket.com/user/Flatism/media/DFC1D85C-758C-4E2E-83C1-0841126ACB5F_zpsop2reez5.jpg.html)

(http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad333/Flatism/42567662-AED7-4252-978E-7A30E4F31DDF_zpsd0laa8lc.jpg) (http://s949.photobucket.com/user/Flatism/media/42567662-AED7-4252-978E-7A30E4F31DDF_zpsd0laa8lc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on January 24, 2014, 04:02:18 PM
dubenham,that Full chrome Intrikat is Awesome!! Just dont like how those pegs are not completely on dropouts.
Flatism,urs reminds me of mine i had.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on January 24, 2014, 04:04:19 PM
Sick Dividual sprocket!!!


You had? that a 19"?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on January 24, 2014, 06:05:03 PM
Sick Dividual sprocket!!!


You had? that a 19"?

Yep i did. I had issues with the small dropouts and just got frustrated and sold it.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: sakis on February 03, 2014, 09:00:28 PM
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/560/0pmx.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/fk0pmxj)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: sakis on February 03, 2014, 09:06:18 PM
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/607/piie.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/gvpiiej)
second session today and new rolling position captured on photo.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: metalbmxer on February 03, 2014, 10:19:09 PM
wut...
holy smokes man nice!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: MaineOnePlus3 on February 04, 2014, 04:38:17 AM
sakis,

Dope bike, Dope picture - looks like a Dope session!!!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on February 04, 2014, 07:35:28 PM
@Sakis - wut length tt would that be?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: sakis on February 05, 2014, 09:15:14 AM
Hey trevor,its 19,5 mate with 13,125 extended cs length.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on February 05, 2014, 01:17:47 PM
Sweet indeed.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on February 05, 2014, 04:54:52 PM
sick trick!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: metalbmxer on February 06, 2014, 07:48:11 AM
Obligatory intrikat trick shot. Turbining deathtruck last month in Phoenix on a black 19"
Photo: Brett Crowther
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a612/metalbmxer/EB679B92-2F25-4D90-83A2-7640E58D5AC5_zpsiprnxegg.jpg) (http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/metalbmxer/media/EB679B92-2F25-4D90-83A2-7640E58D5AC5_zpsiprnxegg.jpg.html)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Phatman on February 06, 2014, 05:11:37 PM
I'm in a way better place nowadays & I'm seriously contemplating getting a Custom Intrikat! I've been Riding 19.2", 19.3" & 19.5" Frames & I'm still feeling a little cramped! I know You can buy a 20" Top Tube Intrikat Stock, But I'm not too keen on the Stand Over Height & Removable Brake Mounts! I've actually been drawn in by Bhaverchuck's White Custom. The Stand Over Height looks PERFECT! I'm wondering how tall His Frame's Stand Over Height Is?! I'm thinking of going with the 7.625" Stand Over!  Either Translucent Gloss Black or Raw Gloss Clear Coat, not 100% on that one.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on February 07, 2014, 05:25:05 PM
Obligatory intrikat trick shot. Turbining deathtruck last month in Phoenix on a black 19"
Photo: Brett Crowther
([url]http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a612/metalbmxer/EB679B92-2F25-4D90-83A2-7640E58D5AC5_zpsiprnxegg.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/metalbmxer/media/EB679B92-2F25-4D90-83A2-7640E58D5AC5_zpsiprnxegg.jpg.html[/url])


Rad!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on February 07, 2014, 05:26:52 PM
I'm in a way better place nowadays & I'm seriously contemplating getting a Custom Intrikat! I've been Riding 19.2", 19.3" & 19.5" Frames & I'm still feeling a little cramped! I know You can buy a 20" Top Tube Intrikat Stock, But I'm not too keen on the Stand Over Height & Removable Brake Mounts! I've actually been drawn in by Bhaverchuck's White Custom. The Stand Over Height looks PERFECT! I'm wondering how tall His Frame's Stand Over Height Is?! I'm thinking of going with the 7.625" Stand Over!  Either Translucent Gloss Black or Raw Gloss Clear Coat, not 100% on that one.

Glad to hear that Topsey.

Yea, Jerry's build is awesome.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: bhaverchuck on February 07, 2014, 11:54:43 PM
Sorry for late reply Topsey. I contacted Chad Johnston with a few questions regarding my custom frame and then he guided me to direct contact with S&M. Chris Moeller took care of order details and made sure was exactly what I wanted. The top tube was lowered to 7" stand over height, non-integrated seat clamp, and 3/8 drop outs. I'll pm my number if you would like to contact me for further details.


Forgot to add...no brake mounts.


Jm
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on February 10, 2014, 07:26:04 PM
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Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: themerged on February 17, 2014, 05:34:29 PM
I'm in a way better place nowadays & I'm seriously contemplating getting a Custom Intrikat! I've been Riding 19.2", 19.3" & 19.5" Frames & I'm still feeling a little cramped! I know You can buy a 20" Top Tube Intrikat Stock, But I'm not too keen on the Stand Over Height & Removable Brake Mounts! I've actually been drawn in by Bhaverchuck's White Custom. The Stand Over Height looks PERFECT! I'm wondering how tall His Frame's Stand Over Height Is?! I'm thinking of going with the 7.625" Stand Over!  Either Translucent Gloss Black or Raw Gloss Clear Coat, not 100% on that one.


Just to think Wemakethings were nice enough to send you an entire frame, fork and bar to ride and you already want something different.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Bri-jon on February 17, 2014, 10:08:12 PM
pass it on to a rider in need... hint hint
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Phatman on February 18, 2014, 04:55:00 PM
Just to think Wemakethings were nice enough to send you an entire frame, fork and bar to ride and you already want something different.
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Riding it every single day I can Dave. I'll be buying almost every single Part Eclat make for it in October. Blind Hub, Vent Guard Sprocket, Bearingless P.C Pedals, Maverick Cranks. Just because I want something a little longer to ride doesn't mean the Utopia isn't going to get used! I don't want to go into details about this, but one of My Friends has asked Me to help Him out with some Parts for His Start Up company & I'll be using what I've learnt to help Him out. Towards the end of the Year, I'll be able to post up exactly what I'm talking about!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Phatman on February 20, 2014, 12:34:56 AM
I find it interesting that when I told Dave (The Merged) about My Mental Health & why I collect Bikes, He Deleted & Blocked Me on Facebook. I do not want a confrontation, BUT! If I was given an 80's Haro & then went out & Purchased a Dyno or a GT, No one would bat an eye lid! I collect Bikes & Bike Parts. Regardless of if I get hook ups or I trade Parts or I pay full price for brand new Parts. That's what I do & I will continue doing it for as long as I want to... That's all I have to say on this matter.


Stay Cool Guys.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: leeroy002 on February 20, 2014, 02:26:53 PM
I'm not here to judge but he probably thought  you'd ride it, im sure there is a hungry UK rider out there that would love to have this setup and ride it hard on the daily rather than just looking pretty in your house
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: leeroy002 on February 20, 2014, 02:45:37 PM
I'm just jealous, id love a hook up, years of riding in keelans shadow have left me bitter and twisted
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: mewefan on February 20, 2014, 04:50:29 PM
It's been awhile. Made some changes. Here's my updated intrikat:
Frame: Intrikat v2 19"
Post: s/m
Seat: Infinity
Tires: Frequency G SC in back, normal in front
Cranks: Profile 165
Sprocket: Odyssey 27T
Pedals: Odyssey
Rims: PBR
Hubs: Demolition Front, Federal V2 rear
Pegs: Infinity Front, Suelo Rear
Fork: Flatware zero
Brake: Odyssey Evo2
Lever: Odyssey
Headset: Revenge
Stem: Odyssey Elementary v3
Grips: Odyssey
Bars: Intrikat 9"
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on February 20, 2014, 05:43:42 PM
^2nd Gen?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: mewefan on February 20, 2014, 06:15:23 PM
Yes it is the 2nd gen.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on February 20, 2014, 06:52:02 PM
It's been awhile. Made some changes. Here's my updated intrikat:
Frame: Intrikat v2 19"
Post: s/m
Seat: Infinity
Tires: Frequency G SC in back, normal in front
Cranks: Profile 165
Sprocket: Odyssey 27T
Pedals: Odyssey
Rims: PBR
Hubs: Demolition Front, Federal V2 rear
Pegs: Infinity Front, Suelo Rear
Fork: Flatware zero
Brake: Odyssey Evo2
Lever: Odyssey
Headset: Revenge
Stem: Odyssey Elementary v3
Grips: Odyssey
Bars: Intrikat 9"

Love the color! Custom ordered or painted urself?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: mewefan on February 20, 2014, 07:34:29 PM
Had it powdercoated.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Chris_Hansen on February 23, 2014, 03:58:04 PM
Changed out some parts.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on February 23, 2014, 05:17:18 PM
 :beer: nice
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: theisaac on February 23, 2014, 07:51:57 PM
The tire marks on the ground in the updated pic are clutch! Well done.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on March 04, 2014, 04:48:01 PM
It's been awhile. Made some changes. Here's my updated intrikat:
Frame: Intrikat v2 19"
Post: s/m
Seat: Infinity
Tires: Frequency G SC in back, normal in front
Cranks: Profile 165
Sprocket: Odyssey 27T
Pedals: Odyssey
Rims: PBR
Hubs: Demolition Front, Federal V2 rear
Pegs: Infinity Front, Suelo Rear
Fork: Flatware zero
Brake: Odyssey Evo2
Lever: Odyssey
Headset: Revenge
Stem: Odyssey Elementary v3
Grips: Odyssey
Bars: Intrikat 9"

Nice build, thanks for posting.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on March 04, 2014, 04:50:32 PM
The tire marks on the ground in the updated pic are clutch! Well done.

+1
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on March 04, 2014, 05:02:34 PM
been testing this for a few months now...
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/2014_intrikat_prototype_build_1_zps6639bae2.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/2014_intrikat_prototype_build_1_zps6639bae2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on March 04, 2014, 05:14:34 PM
Back to the wishbone, higher soh, and bigger D.O's?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: leeroy002 on March 04, 2014, 06:04:29 PM
stand over doesnt seem any higher? could be my eyes, i spy good things in 2014, bigger dropouts could be good.....
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: leeroy002 on March 04, 2014, 06:19:33 PM
few tweaks and now shes running perfect




(http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv72/leeroy002/WP_000657.jpg) (http://s671.photobucket.com/user/leeroy002/media/WP_000657.jpg.html)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on March 04, 2014, 08:18:45 PM
Back to the wishbone, higher soh, and bigger D.O's?

Bigger dropouts Perfection!! And Wishbone a Big +!!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Revig on March 04, 2014, 08:30:11 PM
Back to the wishbone, higher soh, and bigger D.O's?


Bigger dropouts Perfection!! And Wishbone a Big +!!



apparently no wishbone over there


(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/2014_intrikat_prototype_build_2_zpsd7c31cc2.jpg)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on March 04, 2014, 09:31:16 PM
Back to the wishbone, higher soh, and bigger D.O's?


Bigger dropouts Perfection!! And Wishbone a Big +!!



apparently no wishbone over there


([url]http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/2014_intrikat_prototype_build_2_zpsd7c31cc2.jpg[/url])


huh,was looking from my small cel. Anyways just a plus,no biggie wishbone or this way is still cool. But dropouts is a MUST!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on June 14, 2014, 12:11:50 AM
The New Intrikat is out with integrated chain tensioners on Ebay and on the S&M site.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: out~riding on June 14, 2014, 11:43:18 AM
It's also available in "Gold Zink" color
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: out~riding on June 14, 2014, 11:44:41 AM
Matching fastpitch forks and new 9.5" Intrikat bars also
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on June 14, 2014, 02:39:13 PM
It's also available in "Gold Zink" color

And am sure more colors to come. I also read the top tube is smaller now?
Finally no more rear wheel adjustment issues!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: mewefan on June 14, 2014, 03:19:47 PM
This new stuff looks really cool!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: out~riding on June 15, 2014, 12:40:11 PM

And am sure more colors to come. I also read the top tube is smaller now?
Finally no more rear wheel adjustment issues!

The colors are Raw, Chrome, Black and Gold Zink,
and TOP TUBE sizes are the same - 19", 19.5", 20", 20.5"

The rear is actually shorter now at 12.75" (previous was 13.125" < 13.5")  but the new dropouts will give you more adjustment.

Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on June 15, 2014, 01:02:58 PM

And am sure more colors to come. I also read the top tube is smaller now?
Finally no more rear wheel adjustment issues!

The colors are Raw, Chrome, Black and Gold Zink,
and TOP TUBE sizes are the same - 19", 19.5", 20", 20.5"

The rear is actually shorter now at 12.75" (previous was 13.125" < 13.5")  but the new dropouts will give you more adjustment.



I mention extra colors cause like the limited edition that came for Fuel,they might do the same for these.

Shorter rear? Nice!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on June 15, 2014, 05:43:53 PM
few tweaks and now shes running perfect




([url]http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv72/leeroy002/WP_000657.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s671.photobucket.com/user/leeroy002/media/WP_000657.jpg.html[/url])


looks tough as hell.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on June 15, 2014, 06:15:29 PM
Thanks for posting info on the new frames! There are a few updates with this version: 1st is the drop-outs, they now have integrated tensioners and longer slots allowing more travel forward and backward for easier adjusting, etc. 2nd is the smaller diameter top tube with straight gauge tubing. 3rd is the investment cast seat clamp and new seat tube.


A few pics...
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/Intrikat_GoldZinc_1_zps2fee9f26.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/Intrikat_GoldZinc_1_zps2fee9f26.jpg.html)


(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/Int_frame_goldzinc_zps031845de.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/Int_frame_goldzinc_zps031845de.jpg.html)


(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/int_frame_blk_zps34aaf878.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/int_frame_blk_zps34aaf878.jpg.html)


(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/Int_frame_raw_zps7eb6479e.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/Int_frame_raw_zps7eb6479e.jpg.html)


(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/Int_frame_Drop_zps65fad3da.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/Int_frame_Drop_zps65fad3da.jpg.html)


(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/Int_frame_CastClamp_zpsd5ec4c80.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/Int_frame_CastClamp_zpsd5ec4c80.jpg.html)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on June 15, 2014, 06:20:16 PM
...a couple riding shots on a prototype.
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/2014intrikatcherrytaker_zps7b56a9d1.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/2014intrikatcherrytaker_zps7b56a9d1.jpg.html)

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/2014intrikatstemboomerangtowhip_zps708a1d0f.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/2014intrikatstemboomerangtowhip_zps708a1d0f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on June 15, 2014, 07:02:02 PM
This is the Intrikat i was waiting for!!  :beer: :beer:
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: sakis on June 16, 2014, 02:08:10 AM
Hello chad,nice improvements,
i want to ask
1)extended backwheel length..
2)stand over?is it higher as the info at the snm website states
3)is the head tube shorter?
or it looks like since the top tube is smaller diameter..
thank you
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on June 16, 2014, 12:13:30 PM
Are the CS: 12.75 when slammed?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: TRUTH1970 on June 16, 2014, 01:44:43 PM
that improved seat clamp looks great, wish it had been available when I got my custom frame.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on June 19, 2014, 05:42:20 PM
Are the CS: 12.75 when slammed?

Good question,i would like to know too. Also i noticed on the site the seat tube is 8.15 stan over?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: metalbmxer on June 21, 2014, 06:54:21 PM
that improved seat clamp looks great, wish it had been available when I got my custom frame.

Yeah the new clamp looks good. I had some problems with the old design
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: D on June 27, 2014, 06:18:20 PM
So now that the new version is 12.75" slammed, how far back can you run the wheel with pegs?  Where would the typical 25-9 or 23-9 set up in the drops?  Chad, can you help us out?  The bike looks great, thanks for working so hard to get this perfect. 
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on June 30, 2014, 11:27:36 PM
Besides the new drop outs being slightly thicker only in necessary spots to fit the the integrated tensioners, they're also longer for more adjusting options. The extra travel space is towards the front of the bike so the slammed measurement is 12.75" and the extended is 13.50". Stand over center to center is 8.15". The new Top tube is straight gauge and a smaller diameter, so the actual stand over height is pretty close to the same as the last version.

much love you all!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: sakis on July 01, 2014, 12:57:37 AM
yesss longer dropouts,much better!love it.thanks chad
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on July 12, 2014, 05:01:58 PM
Here's a few more pics of the integrated tensioners:
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/integrated_tensioner_dropout_4_zps7837f497.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/integrated_tensioner_dropout_4_zps7837f497.jpg.html)
I cut 5 threads off the tips of the set screws so they'd be fully recessed into the drop-outs...

(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/integrated_tensioner_dropout_5_zpsd8f389e5.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/integrated_tensioner_dropout_5_zpsd8f389e5.jpg.html)

slammed
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/integrated_tensioner_dropout_1_zps3df6a112.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/integrated_tensioner_dropout_1_zps3df6a112.jpg.html)

mid
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/integrated_tensioner_dropout_2_zps39c83642.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/integrated_tensioner_dropout_2_zps39c83642.jpg.html)

and extended
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/integrated_tensioner_dropout_3_zps498d31e1.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/integrated_tensioner_dropout_3_zps498d31e1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on July 14, 2014, 10:31:28 PM
Neat!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: leeroy002 on October 01, 2014, 11:50:35 PM
Need to see some more intriKats! Post em up
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: K.Wong on October 02, 2014, 07:30:12 PM
have to say the 2014 updates to the intrikats have me tempted...
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on October 02, 2014, 09:43:32 PM
Need to see some more intriKats! Post em up
THIS^^
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: out~riding on December 09, 2014, 03:23:26 PM
Quote from: S&M Bikes
Steven Hamilton aka @styleycyrus just built a new #intrikat (https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/intrikat) - bike check on our site soon.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: retrofreak on January 16, 2015, 12:32:18 PM
My Intrikat  O0


(http://i58.tinypic.com/29ymmgo.jpg)
(http://i59.tinypic.com/25rkq4y.jpg)
(http://i62.tinypic.com/dymw7r.jpg)
(http://i61.tinypic.com/9jj1nn.jpg)
(http://i59.tinypic.com/15n7j0z.jpg)
(http://i57.tinypic.com/33uz6vr.jpg)
(http://i61.tinypic.com/15efgd0.jpg)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: metalbmxer on January 16, 2015, 04:45:34 PM
Retrofreak: damn that bike looks dialed! Now go for a little added function AND fashion and flip that stem!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: retrofreak on January 16, 2015, 05:10:35 PM
Retrofreak: damn that bike looks dialed! Now go for a little added function AND fashion and flip that stem!



Thanks Metalbmxer, well spotted..those are old pics, I've since changed the stem to a shielded Redneck FLT  >:D


(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l124/opengroundpark/STEMS/FLT_Shield_Wrap_zpsf3fea024.jpg)
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2mealqw.jpg)

Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: metalbmxer on January 18, 2015, 04:41:46 PM
Retro: dope stem I like the design of it just not the length. I still think you'd like your old redneck stem but flipped just to give you the extra reach and height...what bars are those? 8.5 or 9's?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: retrofreak on January 19, 2015, 06:17:56 AM
Retro: dope stem I like the design of it just not the length. I still think you'd like your old redneck stem but flipped just to give you the extra reach and height...what bars are those? 8.5 or 9's?


They're 9", I've got used to this set up as is, but I'm building another rider, so i'll try my flipped Redneck on that.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: letsgo on January 20, 2015, 05:46:37 AM
Looks great.  I don't think those front load stems look good flipped.  Go for an S&M Enduro Stem.  I think they have them in Shield Warp at FF.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on January 20, 2015, 05:41:07 PM
retrofreak, lovin' that build! one-of-a-kind, the shield wrap accents push it over the top!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on January 20, 2015, 06:01:43 PM
Need to see some more intriKats! Post em up
THIS^^
I'll dig-up some pics and post them asap.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on January 20, 2015, 06:36:04 PM
I'm not sure if any of these have been posted before...

Josh Briars'
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/001040_2011_bmxmuseum_ukflatland_josh_briars_1_zpseaa35a2c.png) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/001040_2011_bmxmuseum_ukflatland_josh_briars_1_zpseaa35a2c.png.html)

Brian Itzaina's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/001050_2011_brian_itzaina_5_zpsefcb3f36.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/001050_2011_brian_itzaina_5_zpsefcb3f36.jpg.html)

Klaus Dyba's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/001060_2011_klaus_dyba_instagram_zps9577cc35.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/001060_2011_klaus_dyba_instagram_zps9577cc35.jpg.html)

Kip Williamson's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/001070_2011_kip_williamson_2_zpsc056e7e1.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/001070_2011_kip_williamson_2_zpsc056e7e1.jpg.html)
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/001080_2011_kip_williamson_3_zpsa64b72b1.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/001080_2011_kip_williamson_3_zpsa64b72b1.jpg.html)

serge's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/001710_2012_bmxmuseum_serge_1_zps1c7dd57e.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/001710_2012_bmxmuseum_serge_1_zps1c7dd57e.jpg.html)

laggerinparadise's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/001720_2012_bmxmuseum_laggerinparadise_zps64e3f0dc.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/001720_2012_bmxmuseum_laggerinparadise_zps64e3f0dc.jpg.html)

20tt_dirt_frame's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/001840_2012_bmxmuseum_20tt_dirt_frame_1_zpsac27738d.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/001840_2012_bmxmuseum_20tt_dirt_frame_1_zpsac27738d.jpg.html)

suicidepan's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/001850_2012_bmxmuseum_suicidepan_1_zps2b140a80.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/001850_2012_bmxmuseum_suicidepan_1_zps2b140a80.jpg.html)

showtime's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/002200_2013_bmxmuseum_showtime402_zps3d9d4f79.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/002200_2013_bmxmuseum_showtime402_zps3d9d4f79.jpg.html)

dubenham's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/002280_2012_bmxmuseum_dubenhams_1_zpsca978404.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/002280_2012_bmxmuseum_dubenhams_1_zpsca978404.jpg.html)

since_77's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/002290_2012_bmxmuseum_since_77_2_zpse7d16896.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/002290_2012_bmxmuseum_since_77_2_zpse7d16896.jpg.html)

korshicov_sergei's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/002300_2012_korshicov_sergei_g-f_zpsf3f2170e.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/002300_2012_korshicov_sergei_g-f_zpsf3f2170e.jpg.html)

ajdzgn's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/002340_2013_bmxmuseum_ajdzgn_2_zpsd2f58535.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/002340_2013_bmxmuseum_ajdzgn_2_zpsd2f58535.jpg.html)
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/002350_2013_bmxmuseum_ajdzgn_3_zpsb07ca0ec.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/002350_2013_bmxmuseum_ajdzgn_3_zpsb07ca0ec.jpg.html)
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/002360_2013_bmxmuseum_ajdzgn_4_zpsb233fa01.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/002360_2013_bmxmuseum_ajdzgn_4_zpsb233fa01.jpg.html)

sergi8's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/002380_2013_bmxmuseum_sergi8_2_zpsfa8cb223.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/002380_2013_bmxmuseum_sergi8_2_zpsfa8cb223.jpg.html)

mainoneplus3_6's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/002420_2013_maineoneplus3_6_zps964f199c.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/002420_2013_maineoneplus3_6_zps964f199c.jpg.html)

Patrick Schoolen's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/002430_2013_le_flatland_fuel_pat_schoolen_zpsc4e78b6c.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/002430_2013_le_flatland_fuel_pat_schoolen_zpsc4e78b6c.jpg.html)

Ben Querubin's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/002440_2012_ben_querubin_2_zps6d3867b3.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/002440_2012_ben_querubin_2_zps6d3867b3.jpg.html)

Dave Alden's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/002520_2013_bmxmuseum_dalden_3_zps4ff2e9c9.png) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/002520_2013_bmxmuseum_dalden_3_zps4ff2e9c9.png.html)

another by sergi8
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/002530_2012_sergi8_2_zpsae218661.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/002530_2012_sergi8_2_zpsae218661.jpg.html)

robpossible's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/002540_2012_robbpossible_6_zpsab9fc1ae.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/002540_2012_robbpossible_6_zpsab9fc1ae.jpg.html)

triiplethreat's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/002590_2013_bmxmuseum_triiplethreat_3_zpscb5f5c62.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/002590_2013_bmxmuseum_triiplethreat_3_zpscb5f5c62.jpg.html)

Stephen Hearn's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/002600_2012_stephen_hearn_zps2b6e6a83.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/002600_2012_stephen_hearn_zps2b6e6a83.jpg.html)

Diego Tejada's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/002640_2013_diego_tejada_2_zps0550a874.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/002640_2013_diego_tejada_2_zps0550a874.jpg.html)

getzfafive's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/002680_2013_bmxmuseum_getzfafive_5_zps2f5885e2.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/002680_2013_bmxmuseum_getzfafive_5_zps2f5885e2.jpg.html)

Martti Kuoppa's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/martti_bad_mf_zps335e1b50.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/martti_bad_mf_zps335e1b50.jpg.html)

There are more here: http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/?model=2334 (http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/?model=2334)

I'll be posting more on Instagram too: instagram.com/intrikatbmx
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: retrofreak on January 20, 2015, 08:49:07 PM
Need to see some more intriKats! Post em up
THIS^^
I'll dig-up some pics and post them asap.


Thanks Chad, I love the responsiveness of this bike, I'm just hoping that Profile would do an S&M shielded Freecoaster  :)



Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Revig on January 20, 2015, 10:36:42 PM
 

a other one over there today: http://jimalog.blogspot.com/2015/01/bikecheck.html (http://jimalog.blogspot.com/2015/01/bikecheck.html)

Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: retrofreak on January 21, 2015, 01:09:12 AM
Maybe I'm biased, but Intrikats are my favourite modern flatland frames.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on January 21, 2015, 12:51:27 PM
Does anything come close...in regards to quality of build?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on January 21, 2015, 01:02:45 PM


a other one over there today: [url]http://jimalog.blogspot.com/2015/01/bikecheck.html[/url] ([url]http://jimalog.blogspot.com/2015/01/bikecheck.html[/url])


Slacker HT & Euro BB too. Nice!
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Revig on January 21, 2015, 06:02:15 PM
Does anything come close...in regards to quality of build?

a really complete answer won't be find on a board

it's necessary to see and touch (and smell and lick maybe) ALL the frames made by everybody (including the ones made by bmx craftmans) in order to compare them and really know what's up

however pics here show something that appears to be very nice work, so we can suppose that it's on the top list of very good frames in regards to quality of build
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on January 21, 2015, 09:46:11 PM
^Lol, I think I'll just keep it on a visual basis for now.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: jeffc43 on January 21, 2015, 09:49:57 PM
My 20.5" Intrikat.  Best flatland bike I've ever had.


(http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j343/oldschoolharo/Bikes/2014%20SandM%20Intrikat/PhotoJan0223947PM_zps6c84ce5d.jpg) (http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolharo/media/Bikes/2014%20SandM%20Intrikat/PhotoJan0223947PM_zps6c84ce5d.jpg.html)



Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: leeroy002 on January 21, 2015, 11:12:35 PM
(http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv72/leeroy002/Mobile%20Uploads/4A6DD681-AA20-44C6-B674-032E18B2B6CF.jpg) (http://s671.photobucket.com/user/leeroy002/media/Mobile%20Uploads/4A6DD681-AA20-44C6-B674-032E18B2B6CF.jpg.html)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: a08 on January 22, 2015, 05:46:02 AM
My 20.5" Intrikat.  Best flatland bike I've ever had.


([url]http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j343/oldschoolharo/Bikes/2014%20SandM%20Intrikat/PhotoJan0223947PM_zps6c84ce5d.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolharo/media/Bikes/2014%20SandM%20Intrikat/PhotoJan0223947PM_zps6c84ce5d.jpg.html[/url])






um.. riip :O :O :O

do you have a bike check? :D :D
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on January 22, 2015, 05:28:53 PM
Thanks for posting, keep the pics flowing...
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: dug on January 25, 2015, 01:44:11 PM
My 20.5" Intrikat.  Best flatland bike I've ever had.


([url]http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j343/oldschoolharo/Bikes/2014%20SandM%20Intrikat/PhotoJan0223947PM_zps6c84ce5d.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolharo/media/Bikes/2014%20SandM%20Intrikat/PhotoJan0223947PM_zps6c84ce5d.jpg.html[/url])






um.. riip :O :O :O

do you have a bike check? :D :D

http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/79788 (http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/79788)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: out~riding on January 28, 2015, 10:13:23 PM
Interesting bike setup of  Steven Hamilton (http://instagram.com/styleycyrus)... Intrikat 19.5" frame and Intrikat bars
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: cj on February 11, 2015, 05:07:59 PM
Yeah, psyched! ^

I dug up a few more...
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/redgrfx_1_zps7f83385f.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/redgrfx_1_zps7f83385f.jpg.html)
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/redgrfx_5_zpsd3e32ebe.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/redgrfx_5_zpsd3e32ebe.jpg.html)
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/redgrfx_7_zps384d765c.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/redgrfx_7_zps384d765c.jpg.html)

James White's custom fade
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/2012_le_white_james_white_29_edit_zps35961c26.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/2012_le_white_james_white_29_edit_zps35961c26.jpg.html)

outdrstr's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/outdrstr_BD1C5BD9-7C8A-45E4-97A8-E5F40F11AAF6.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/outdrstr_BD1C5BD9-7C8A-45E4-97A8-E5F40F11AAF6.jpg.html)
The spacing between the rear drop-outs is designed to fit the widest hub on the market.

Prototype
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/2012_prototype_3_zps4d143667.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/2012_prototype_3_zps4d143667.jpg.html)

Ryan Russell's blinger
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/ryanrussell2012_c.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/ryanrussell2012_c.jpg.html)

This one is from Tim Knoll's Dig Set-Ups
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/tim_knoll_dig_bc_4908_zpsd0981bb9.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/tim_knoll_dig_bc_4908_zpsd0981bb9.jpg.html)

Aleksi Ritsla's Rig
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/2013_aleksi_ritsila_zps91b122f9.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/2013_aleksi_ritsila_zps91b122f9.jpg.html)

and another one of Aleksi's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/2014_aleksi_ritsila_zps322468dc.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/2014_aleksi_ritsila_zps322468dc.jpg.html)

Peter Olsen's custom
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/2014_peter_olsen_2_zpseb9c2474.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/2014_peter_olsen_2_zpseb9c2474.jpg.html)

Parker Lolo's chromeee
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/2014_sean_parker_zps8ba1f4f1.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/2014_sean_parker_zps8ba1f4f1.jpg.html)

Stephen Hamilton's
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo301/intrikat_2008/2014_stephen_hamilton_styleycyrus_build_zps5d2c6c30.jpg) (http://s386.photobucket.com/user/intrikat_2008/media/2014_stephen_hamilton_styleycyrus_build_zps5d2c6c30.jpg.html)
@styleycyrus
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on February 12, 2015, 01:04:08 AM
Whiteski's  :beer:
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: dug on February 12, 2015, 05:10:22 AM
whats the tt, etc. on Peter Olsen's?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on February 12, 2015, 07:38:11 PM
whats the tt, etc. on Peter Olsen's?
I recall A 20.5" .
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on February 12, 2015, 07:39:46 PM
Another, from another brother...
(http://s6.postimg.org/fqfzwu2f5/IMG_2022.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
screengrab (http://postimage.org/app.php)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: dug on February 13, 2015, 02:42:38 AM
whats the tt, etc. on Peter Olsen's?
I recall A 20.5" .
Yeah-looks like it
maybe a lower tt
backend seems longer too
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on May 11, 2015, 08:29:30 PM
S&M Trans-Red 19tt Intrikat.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on August 08, 2016, 07:26:39 AM
My current Intrikat non integrated from the 25th anniversary lot.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: DaddyCool on August 10, 2016, 03:55:45 PM
Nice, the sprockets fits well! What handlebar is this?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on August 10, 2016, 05:24:04 PM
Nice, the sprockets fits well! What handlebar is this?

Thanks. Its Sick Child Relapse bar.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: DaddyCool on August 12, 2016, 12:53:53 AM
Cool, that is what I thought, but it looks like it has some backsweep. That is why I was sceptical...
I like the "flatland-specific" handlebars.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on August 12, 2016, 07:29:39 AM
Cool, that is what I thought, but it looks like it has some backsweep. That is why I was sceptical...
I like the "flatland-specific" handlebars.

Yes they do have back sweep.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: DaddyCool on August 12, 2016, 08:34:29 PM
This is interesting. Mine does not have backsweep (only 3 degree upsweep). Have there been different variants?
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on August 13, 2016, 06:53:24 AM
This is interesting. Mine does not have backsweep (only 3 degree upsweep). Have there been different variants?

When i ordered mine way back it had options sweep or none. Maybe it's like urs and im mistaken. I have them off right now. Ill check em and get back.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: DaddyCool on August 13, 2016, 11:56:54 AM
We even have it here:
http://www.global-flat.com/parts/part/877 (http://www.global-flat.com/parts/part/877)
There were two version...
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on August 14, 2016, 06:28:59 AM
We even have it here:
[url]http://www.global-flat.com/parts/part/877[/url] ([url]http://www.global-flat.com/parts/part/877[/url])
There were two version...


Checked em, definitely back sweep and bit up sweep. :beer:
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: SHIZM on October 31, 2016, 12:08:28 AM
Just scored a 19.5tt Intrikat. Loving mine! Photo attached.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: letsgo on September 02, 2017, 10:03:17 PM

Is the Intrikat no more?  Do we just get left with the Dagger?  It is not as nice as the Intrikat.


The Intrikat had:
Bullet Tipped stays
Integrated investment cast seatpost clamp
Logo on the headtube
Gusset
Nicer dropouts with the relief where the tensioner went.


I'll miss this.  I was planning on getting a 19.5" or 20"  to mess around on.  I still have a 19" that I currently ride.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: out~riding on September 02, 2017, 11:38:55 PM
Just checked the S&M website, it's not on there anymore....
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: letsgo on September 03, 2017, 04:40:55 PM

Yes, and I emailed Building Distribution and they said it was replaced with the Dagger.  There is also the Infinity KA frame made by S&M but is similar except for the head tube angle.


http://flatlandfuel.com/infinitykaframe.aspx (http://flatlandfuel.com/infinitykaframe.aspx)
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on September 03, 2017, 04:56:03 PM
Strange they not selling the Intrikat anymore. They sold well.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: letsgo on September 03, 2017, 05:46:35 PM

Yes.  They should drop the Dagger and market the 20.5+ Intrikat as the skatepark frame. 

Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on September 03, 2017, 05:59:43 PM

Yes.  They should drop the Dagger and market the 20.5+ Intrikat as the skatepark frame. 


Just checked they still have the Intrikat custom option.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: metalbmxer on September 03, 2017, 08:04:34 PM
The intrikat was a hit when it came out but that kind of success doesn't last forever. Plus many frames have dropped the tao style junction in favor of straight tubes. Lighter + cheaper to make
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: Flatism® on September 03, 2017, 08:16:17 PM
 Typically waited eons for a 20.5, once I had cash they were no more. Regretfully unaware of the custom option at the time. So went with a Heresy instead. Rip Intrikat.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on September 03, 2017, 08:36:33 PM
Typically waited eons for a 20.5, once I had cash they were no more. Regretfully unaware of the custom option at the time. So went with a Heresy instead. Rip Intrikat.

Yes no gusset is cheaper to make.
R.i.p. Intrikat? Lmao! Good one.
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: SHIZM on November 26, 2017, 12:08:08 PM
The Intrikat is back!


S&M are releasing 19" and 19.5" inch Intrikat frames that will be available mid December.


I was hoping for a 20" and I messaged S&M however they advised me that 19.5" is the longest size they'll make...for now. So I went and found a 20"! Here it is.


Received the frame on a Friday, came home and built it that night. Won 3rd place in beginner class on it 12 hours later.


Love it!



(https://i.imgur.com/TEkJSHf_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: metalbmxer on November 27, 2017, 05:54:17 PM
Dope this is good news! Can’t wait to see the finished product. Curious if we’ll see any changes to it
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: HighLander on November 30, 2017, 03:15:11 AM
 :beer: :beer: Awesome :beer: :beer:
Title: Re: S&M Intrikat Signature Frame 20.5", 20", 19.5" and 19"
Post by: SHIZM on December 01, 2017, 09:34:27 AM
Yep! Absolutely love the Intrikat. I hope they keep producing this frame!