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Title: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: iceqb25 on October 09, 2011, 08:28:30 PM
I was trying to do a wheelchair glide and i thought looking up some videos would help and i found a video of a crackpacker and it looks like the same trick. Is there just two names for this trick or am i missing the difference?
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: Ultraman Zoffy on October 09, 2011, 09:54:38 PM
Nothing really, though I'm sure that won't stop some flatland historian hung up on trick names from coming on here and trying to explain one. lol
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: Kevin Brill @ Kassel on October 09, 2011, 10:08:37 PM
wheelchair glide sounds retarded

crackpacker sounds like a trick
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: MICHELE on October 09, 2011, 10:21:19 PM
i think that the difference is that in a crack you don't scuff.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: ross636 on October 09, 2011, 10:31:36 PM
bars forward or backward too i think?
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: pitdog504 on October 10, 2011, 04:31:14 AM
no no no
wheelchair= scuffing
wheelchair glide= rolling
crackpacker= rolling with seat post between legs (think cliffhanger with body facing the back of bike)
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: BMXTRIX on October 10, 2011, 04:52:57 AM
Yeah, need Pete Brandt in here.  Wheelchair glides predate the crackpacker, but the above explanation is dead on, and a wheelchair glide is to a crackpacker what a hang five is to a cliffhanger.  Just very different tricks.

Doing a wheelchair glide, typically with bars forward, you put the seat in your crotch then take your hands off.

Not sure if this link will work, and I'll try to attach a photo of a proper crackpacker.  It does seem like any no-handed wheelchair glides may constitute a crackpacker, but no-hands is a must...
http://media.photobucket.com/image/crackpacker%20flatland/Timo2F/Skyway%20Street%20Beat%20Personal%20Replica/Vartsa19925editcopy.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/image/crackpacker%20flatland/Timo2F/Skyway%20Street%20Beat%20Personal%20Replica/Vartsa19925editcopy.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: tod miller on October 10, 2011, 01:29:55 PM
Crackpacker is just a double footed Wheelchair Glide...not with the seat between your legs as described above.  A backwards Cliffhanger is called a Coathanger.


Wheelchair Glide is one footed.


Sorry Ultraman!  Ha, ha...
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: Rad255 on October 10, 2011, 03:56:18 PM
Always thought Crackpacker was spinning Wheelchair... atleast that's how Pete demonstrates it in that video he did recently about inventing it.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: SurfonFlatland on October 10, 2011, 05:03:58 PM
Crackpacker is a wheelchair glide with seat between legs.
It's as obnoxious to hear a wheelchair glide called a crackpacker as seeing someone spell "brakes" (the things used to stop your wheel on your bike or car) as "breaks" (what happens when something becomes damages beyond use).
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: pitdog504 on October 10, 2011, 05:25:59 PM
Tyler gets it...
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: Burnout on October 10, 2011, 05:35:27 PM
check this video!Wheelchair Glide is not one footed!Sorry Tod!Watch the Ground Rules Video.




Crack Packer Origins with Pete Brandt for FlatMatters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFdabk8i1X0#)
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: misterpola on October 10, 2011, 07:28:29 PM
the name lol
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: tod miller on October 11, 2011, 03:06:49 AM
check this video!Wheelchair Glide is not one footed!Sorry Tod!Watch the Ground Rules Video.




Crack Packer Origins with Pete Brandt for FlatMatters ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFdabk8i1X0#[/url])


This video shows a Crack Packer, a Wheel Chair Glide(like Pete says, originally a scuffing trick) is one foot on peg, the other foot(the one that would be used to scuff) extended out for balancing.  I'm just going by what we and(Freestylin' magazine) called tricks in 88.  Maybe the name changed over time like a Dave Duster. 

Anywho, just all names...you call it Stick Bitch, I call it Caboose. 
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: wolverines on October 11, 2011, 05:19:34 AM
Tod, you can call it steamboat, and I'll call it a tea kettle =)
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: Flatgod on October 11, 2011, 06:52:16 AM
Here we go again with this conversation and people can't even grasp what Pete is saying in the video. He says a wheelchair is scuffing. He then specifically states that a crackpacker behind the seat is called a crackhanger -- obviously named from the quite OBVIOUS observation that the trick looks like a combination of a crackpacker and cliffhanger. Get it? Not so hard.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: Deadwing on October 11, 2011, 11:40:07 AM
I call it a flying dragon. It sounds cooler anyways. honestly go tell someone you practiced some flying dragons today. It will sound alot better than a crackpacker or wheel chair.

"I just did a flying dragon to switch tiger roll"
"i can finally do zombie jugglers to flying dragon to a switch handed katana glide"

You guys keep arguing about doing crackpackers or wheelchair glides. Im going to do some flying dragons.

And for the record a crackhanger is actually called the rising sun. Because more people get interested in flatland when they don't have stupid names.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: wolverines on October 11, 2011, 01:54:05 PM
Deadwing:
I call it a flying dragon. It sounds cooler anyways. honestly go tell someone you practiced some flying dragons today. It will sound alot better than a crackpacker or wheel chair.

"I just did a flying dragon to switch tiger roll"
"i can finally do zombie jugglers to flying dragon to a switch handed katana glide"

You guys keep arguing about doing crackpackers or wheelchair glides. Im going to do some flying dragons.

And for the record a crackhanger is actually called the rising sun. Because more people get interested in flatland when they don't have stupid names.


This was good!
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: DaveDeBuono on October 11, 2011, 02:27:06 PM
arguing names can be a pain when everyone else is wrong and cant see why, but it is nice to have a common understanding of what we're talking about. if anyone has any questions they can pm me, im right about all this sh*t all the time anyway.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: K.Wong on October 13, 2011, 02:20:00 PM
arguing names can be a pain when everyone else is wrong and cant see why, but it is nice to have a common understanding of what we're talking about. if anyone has any questions they can pm me, {that's very nice of you...}im right about all this sh*t all the time anyway.
{that crack me up, like real LOL, don't know why, maybe it's the ego part...lol}
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: 2flat2furious on October 13, 2011, 06:25:41 PM
Trick names only really matter if you're the type of person that would prefer talking about riding rather than doing it :)
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: Kevin Brill @ Kassel on October 13, 2011, 06:45:09 PM
I call it a flying dragon. It sounds cooler anyways. honestly go tell someone you practiced some flying dragons today. It will sound alot better than a crackpacker or wheel chair.

"I just did a flying dragon to switch tiger roll"
"i can finally do zombie jugglers to flying dragon to a switch handed katana glide"

You guys keep arguing about doing crackpackers or wheelchair glides. Im going to do some flying dragons.

And for the record a crackhanger is actually called the rising sun. Because more people get interested in flatland when they don't have stupid names.

zombie jugglers and flying dragons sound equally stupid to me
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: DaveDeBuono on October 13, 2011, 07:21:06 PM
yeah trick names are dumb! now me, i just go like this, then i go like this, then i go like this for a bit and then i do this. i pull it most of the time.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: DaveDeBuono on October 13, 2011, 07:23:55 PM
Trick names only really matter if you're the type of person that would prefer talking about riding rather than doing it :)
says the guy on a flatland forum.................................. ellipsis rolls the eyes then a smileyface and beeeer
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: Cyborg on October 13, 2011, 08:52:37 PM
Or to talk about stoned. But I could see how looking up videos online would be quicker if you knew the name... What is a bailarina called.. like cross footed backwards non scuffing megaspin_
Title: Re: Whats the difference between a wheelchair glide and a crackpacker?
Post by: pwh4130 on October 13, 2011, 11:51:43 PM
Since I am the old coot historian, I have a magazine with Woody doing the wheelchair.  He was sitting on the crossbar and the bars were backwards.  Robert Peterson invented the Squeakerson where he was standing, bars forward and squeaking with foot and brake use.

Personally, I like trick names.  They help explain, dare I say define, what moves are being done.  Plus, it's just fun to name tricks.  If you don't believe me, ask John Doenut.