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Title: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Mr News Bot on July 01, 2007, 08:59:59 PM
Update: Now we also have a video of the final battle online. So if you are looking for a second point of view or your having problems watching Freecaster videos then have fun: Final Pro Battle.
Furthermore a huge load of new photos is online: Voodoo Jam 2007 Gallery .

Freecaster.tv, Youth in Control and Global-flat are proud to present the final battle video of the Voodoo Jam 2007 aka the second station of the BMX Flatland World Circuit.

Video link to Freecaster.tv: Matthias Dandois vs Terry Adams


(http:///upload/media/2007-07-02-23-29-04voodoo_vid_news.jpg)
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: ASC on July 01, 2007, 09:53:40 PM
AHH YEAH! Now that's real VOOODOOOooo....INSPIRING!

THANK YOU!!!
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: bloody flat on July 01, 2007, 10:04:17 PM
Wont there be a allover video?  :huh:
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: TJ Perry on July 01, 2007, 10:18:56 PM
Ok what is up with rapheals pants. He walked on screen and ruined the battle for me.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: ciaran perry on July 01, 2007, 10:28:39 PM
sh*tty spastic quicktime  i hope someone can get another vid up or somehow rip this an wack it on youtube .
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Burd on July 01, 2007, 10:38:52 PM
OK, that sh*t wasn't even close.  And that's taking nothing away from Terry.  Matthias is just blowing my f*cking mind right now.  He's started throwing down some stuff that appears to be all his own, like the halfpacker where he hooks the frame with his foot, and that nasty switch where he straddled the bars.  Sick stuff.

Was it just me, or was he wearing a shiny gold hat?
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Flatride on July 01, 2007, 10:51:19 PM
Ok what is up with rapheals pants. He walked on screen and ruined the battle for me.

Hahahahaha, TJ you are hillarious. I was actually thinking the same thing. :huh: :huh: ^_^ ^_^
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: leeroy002 on July 01, 2007, 11:22:43 PM
raph wears short shorts
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Haro Master on July 01, 2007, 11:25:55 PM
how old is Matthias he looks so young. he is soooo goood :beer: :beer: :beer:
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Ronny Engelmann @ Kassel on July 01, 2007, 11:39:47 PM
he`s 18
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Haro Master on July 01, 2007, 11:48:29 PM
wow thats insane, what age he start riding?
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: bloody flat on July 02, 2007, 12:34:11 AM
honestly......... WHY THE ****ING **** IS THIS ****ING VIDEO HOSTED ON ****ING FREECAStER ?????!!!!!  :angry: :angry:
I mean.......There are many possibilitys to host a video...and yes,freecaster supported that jam...but tell me...WHY THE HECK IS THIS SYSTEM PURE G.AY ??? nothign against freecaster,but please...please change your system,my computer is always crashign when im wathcing you videos....THAT CANT ****ING BE TRUE  :angry: :angry: :angry:
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: PSchoolen on July 02, 2007, 12:40:13 AM
I agree. Freecaster has crashed all the PCs at flatlandfuel today and I cant watch it on my mac because despite being a Quicktime video it doesnt play on Safari! 
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: 1dallassallad1 on July 02, 2007, 12:45:32 AM
Pat its eric, try flip4mac or wmp for mac it will play it. I watched it fine.
eric
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: PSchoolen on July 02, 2007, 12:53:32 AM
after a restart I got it to work. Oh my....now I am even more depressed about not making it to New Orleans this weekend. f*ck Northwest Airlines. How about Matthias working up the crowd FOR Terry WHILE competing against him? I havent met Matthias yet but that alone says alot about what kind of person he is. Props to Scott and Terry for putting on this amazing event!
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: TOflat on July 02, 2007, 01:49:08 AM
damn freecaster to hell!!! Errors loading and all this crap and I still havent managed to see the video, and I really really want to because it sounds awesome:(
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: jffe on July 02, 2007, 02:02:35 AM
----And I thought agoride had the worst video players ever.  :rolleyes:

jffe
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: TOflat on July 02, 2007, 03:32:06 AM
watched it finally, Matthias deserved every bit of that win. Good f*cking job, awesome battle too. I think the best part was where Terry just barely held onto that hiker-huck landing.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Max S on July 02, 2007, 04:54:38 AM
It is too bad that Hiro kind of fell apart in qualifying because in practice he was UNREAL. I was most impressed with his riding, super fast and super technical. Willhelm was impressive as well. No matter how many times I see him ride he always manages to impress me. He had some new stuff as well and judging by his qualifying runs he looked set to take the crown (he qualified first by the way). Anyways I hope someone will post some practice footage of Hiro because it was insane.  Also York Uno has to be seen in person to be fully appreciated. That guys riding is so insanely fast that he just looks like a blur. Nice stuff.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Nlott on July 02, 2007, 05:56:24 AM
outstanding riding.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Sweatpants on July 02, 2007, 06:13:16 AM
I haven't watched this vid, but I did see it live.  Mattais demonstrated a stirling attitude in the final battle.  Being barely 18, he showed remarkable maturity and integrity on the floor, and made it to the Final Battle the hard way.  He's definitely one to watch.  I don't envy the task the judges had to complete that day. The riding level was so high, it was a difficult job I imagine. Raph's shorts ruled.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: kabirun on July 02, 2007, 06:52:10 AM
I haven't watched this vid, but I did see it live.  Mattais demonstrated a stirling attitude in the final battle.  Being barely 18, he showed remarkable maturity and integrity on the floor, and made it to the Final Battle the hard way.  He's definitely one to watch.  I don't envy the task the judges had to complete that day. The riding level was so high, it was a difficult job I imagine. Raph's shorts ruled.

well, I do like Terry Adams and know about the difficulty of the stuff he does, but I found hard to explain the fact that he was in the final battles. Other riders routines are much more condensed and risk way more (per every variation and link they do). say in 20 seconds mathiass did... how many tricks and variants do you like--6-8 ???, while Terry one or two????  judging should not only focus on whether a rider falls or not but also about the repertoirs/time ratio of every rider.

that's my 2cents analysis if you like...

K
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: blind on July 02, 2007, 07:11:47 AM
matt w was awsome
hiro in practice was unreal. that one link (everyone there knows what im talking about) was off the hook.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: JFos on July 02, 2007, 07:12:06 AM
It is too bad that Hiro kind of fell apart in qualifying because in practice he was UNREAL. I was most impressed with his riding, super fast and super technical. Willhelm was impressive as well. No matter how many times I see him ride he always manages to impress me. He had some new stuff as well and judging by his qualifying runs he looked set to take the crown (he qualified first by the way). Anyways I hope someone will post some practice footage of Hiro because it was insane.  Also York Uno has to be seen in person to be fully appreciated. That guys riding is so insanely fast that he just looks like a blur. Nice stuff.

word

Hiro hit the hardest links of the day period...just not at the right time.

Mathais is a great direction for flatland.

I loved the choose your own battle format thingy...VERY INTERESTING and I think the crowd loved it.

added a little playfull drama to it.

Steingrabber should have gotten past Raphael I think. Raph's got some bad ass links...but Steigrabber pulled it together...I know it wasnt as one sided as it occured. Rapheal didnt just win he got every flag didnt he?

No worried enough about to think it ruined the day or anything..NOTHING COULD HAVE.

This was a big thing for flatland in the US...and hopefully its resecuring what should be a HUGE pillar on the global scale. Asia, Europe and North America

all these continents need to participate in a global flatland market.

an Aussie or maybe southern Asia comp on the points system seams like it'd be rad.


 Lets sell some flatland frames now.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: blind on July 02, 2007, 07:38:25 AM
i thaught the same thing about Steingrabber.dude killed it and ralphel rode good to but he only did his back wheel stuff and fell a good bit.i really wanted to see some of his front wheel stuff but didnt see any the whole contest.just his new backwheel stuff.Steingrabber killed it backwheel and front.im not even sure if he fell more then onice.he did some nice tricks that looked like u would need breaks to do them.but the flags went for ralphel so thats who gets it.

i really like this format alot.it was fun to watch and seems fair too.the battles were all good and fun to watch. the dopest thing about this contest was the vibe.there was a five second rule where a person could restart his combo if he fell in the first five seconds.i saw more then one rider let the person they were battling restart thier combo even after falling after 5 seconds.
this is something that would NOT happen in a bboy contest, EVER. so it was great to see ppl just really amped for each other and thier tricks. even mattias in the final battle telling terry to go again after falling in his first attempt.fuking awsome.im pretty sure terry did the same for him too.

i want a hiro solo video after what i saw in his prctice though.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: TJ Perry on July 02, 2007, 11:24:19 AM
From everything that I'm hearing it seems like good vibes have finally been reinstalled in flatland contests.

I don't care who won (I mean.. I do.. props Matthias  -_- ) but just to hear that riders spent the weekend dropping the whole "YO YOU WANNA BATTLE ME!?" attitude... is awesome.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Todd Loves Curry on July 02, 2007, 12:00:52 PM
an Aussie or maybe southern Asia comp on the points system seams like it'd be rad.

Hopefully the Australian BMX Games will be half as good as this in years to come. We just need some more bloody riders!!!

Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: ancientskool on July 02, 2007, 12:30:33 PM
To each his own.....

Mattias did great.  No question.  But...again...it's all spinning front wheel, all the time.  Yes it's hard to put your feet and hands in all the different positions and variations.  But, his run lacked much balance where Terry didn't spend his whole run just doing fast front wheel variations and pulled some big, very hard tricks.  Hyper fast?  No.  Super difficult AND balanced?  Yes.  I don't think that speed and quantity should necessary rule over balance and shear difficulty.

I would love to have seen Mike S's run because it sounds as if he too had a well balanced run between front and back wheel.

At some point...to me, it gets like watching a unicyclist with front wheel only riders.  Just bring out the un-bikes and be done with it.  :P

The important thing though it that it does seem as though a great time was had by all and egos where left at the door. :)
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: FreeEnterprise on July 02, 2007, 02:11:50 PM
Man, That kid (no disrespect intended) was insane. What an amazing amount of talent for just 18 years old.

Looked like a great contest, and super venue as well.

Gotta go find my red running shorts. See ya!
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Marcel_Munich on July 02, 2007, 02:56:56 PM
every ten years there is a new flatland star coming into the sky, i think....
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Levi on July 02, 2007, 03:00:14 PM


Gotta go find my red running shorts. See ya!

please!!!!!!!

don't show pics
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: bhuffman on July 02, 2007, 03:07:12 PM
Great contest! Some random thoughts. Will Redd has some original tricks, props for qualifying. Wilhelm was incredible, had that 5 sec rule not messed his last link up I think the results may have been different. York, Hiro, Matt and Mathias were riding super fast. Mike S probably should have won his battle, def not to take anything away from Raphael who is amazing. I'm forever scarred for seeing mathias running around the hotel in nothing but his underwear.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Burd on July 02, 2007, 04:25:33 PM
Seriously though, we gotta talk about the setup, atmosphere, etc. of the venue.  From just watching the video, it looked insanely cool.  Two levels of people right next to the floor, lots of spectators really getting into it, DJ laying down some old-school beats, the other riders right there egging the competitors on... damn.  Was it as awesome to behold in person as it is on the vid?

Big, big props to Scott O'Brien and everyone else who put this thing on.  I'm dying to see the rest of the footage.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: kabirun on July 02, 2007, 06:59:45 PM
To each his own.....

Mattias did great.  No question.  But...again...it's all spinning front wheel, all the time.  Yes it's hard to put your feet and hands in all the different positions and variations.  But, his run lacked much balance where Terry didn't spend his whole run just doing fast front wheel variations and pulled some big, very hard tricks.  Hyper fast?  No.  Super difficult AND balanced?  Yes.  I don't think that speed and quantity should necessary rule over balance and shear difficulty.


I completely disagree with you man. modern flatland routines, particularly in a pro-level contest (not a bike show) require speed and variations and F L O W. Terry looked more like he was on a tv show. besides, you're implying that Mathias 50 tricks were not as difficult as Terry's 3 tricks???   can you imagine Hiro or Vicky or Justin doing only 4 big tricks in a battle??  are their tricks less difficut than Terry's voodo runs?

Finally, as I said before, this is nothing against Terry. I am merely pointing out that Mathias and other riders were on a way more advance competing level and hence I'm stranged that he made it to the finals.  BTW, I'm sure that if Terry wanted to be in this next level with more flow, variations and more complete routines he could do it.

word

K
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Amahl Abdul-Khaliq on July 02, 2007, 07:06:51 PM
The vibe of the contest was so unreal, you just had to be there.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: ?uest on July 02, 2007, 07:11:01 PM
Ok what is up with rapheals pants. He walked on screen and ruined the battle for me.


man only if he had on this. his outfit would have been totally rad
(http://www.funwirks.com/Short%20Lace%20Gloves.jpg)

Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: planck on July 02, 2007, 10:08:54 PM
Here's hoping that vid makes it to YouTube, or another is released someplace else. That freecaster site craps on me  :angry:

Si.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Kev on July 02, 2007, 10:38:48 PM
I'm uploading the Global-Flat version now....it should be up shortly as should all the photos from the AM and PROs.  Enjoy everyone.

-Kev
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Kev on July 02, 2007, 11:47:46 PM
Ummmmm yeah...:

http://www.global-flat.com/photos/displayimage.php?album=285&pos=71

Tyler, whaaaaaaat!  You're the man, bro.....keep up the great riding.

I hope you guys like the vid, it's great except for Scott being a camera magnet :)

Enjoy boyeeees.....

-Kev
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: bloody flat on July 03, 2007, 12:32:03 AM
Very thanks for the video....but why only final battle?i wnana see the rest too  :angry:
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: TJ Perry on July 03, 2007, 01:12:37 AM
What is the story behind this?

http://www.global-flat.com/photos/albums/Voodoo%20Jam%202007/friday_resize/normal_am-contest_131.jpg
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: norcalmutt on July 03, 2007, 01:25:20 AM
ha ha a girl cop it looks like trying out the flatland bike
heya thats cool tj
come on and look at the girl in the top
whoaweeeeeee
ok so ill stop drolling over myself now
sorry
lates
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Mr.Jowee on July 03, 2007, 01:41:46 AM
"You might be afraid to wear those shorts, but he's not."
-Scott Obrien


Seriously though, we gotta talk about the setup, atmosphere, etc. of the venue.  From just watching the video, it looked insanely cool.  Two levels of people right next to the floor, lots of spectators really getting into it, DJ laying down some old-school beats, the other riders right there egging the competitors on... damn.  Was it as awesome to behold in person as it is on the vid?

Big, big props to Scott O'Brien and everyone else who put this thing on.  I'm dying to see the rest of the footage.

It's better in person. Voodoo Jam is a contest you have to experience to really understand. The whole weekend was cold, cold, cold. Efraim knows what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: DLSJ_BermudaRider on July 03, 2007, 01:53:21 AM
What frame is Mattias riding?
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: ancientskool on July 03, 2007, 03:41:57 AM
I completely disagree with you man. modern flatland routines, particularly in a pro-level contest (not a bike show) require speed and variations and F L O W.

Who demands it?  I want names and phone numbers, STAT!

...I don't demand it, for one.  :P


Quote
Terry looked more like he was on a tv show. besides, you're implying that Mathias 50 tricks were not as difficult as Terry's 3 tricks???   can you imagine Hiro or Vicky or Justin doing only 4 big tricks in a battle??  are their tricks less difficut than Terry's voodo runs?

I didn't mean to imply that.  I'd simply rather have fewer tricks balanced between the front wheel than 130 variations of a hitchhiker and steamroller in 10 seconds, with lots of repetition.  Actualy, I wish both guys would have cut some of the repetitive stuff out.  I'd rather have seen Mathias do scuffing backyard than another hitchhiker, which he seemed to start every run with.  Same with Terry and his rear to front jumps.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Kev on July 03, 2007, 03:59:32 AM
Very thanks for the video....but why only final battle?i wnana see the rest too  :angry:


I'm gonna do a compilation vid hopefully, but it will take a few more days since i'm in transit to Virginia now.

What is the story behind this?

[url]http://www.global-flat.com/photos/albums/Voodoo%20Jam%202007/friday_resize/normal_am-contest_131.jpg[/url]


TJ, that girl cop wanted to try out the flat bikes!  I was like get on and I'll take a picture.  She was like, no, I'm supposed to be working, I can't have a photo like that on the internet.  Needless to say, she couldn't stand to not have a try on that bike....obviously :)

I'm glad everyone liked the vids and pics.  It was my pleasure bringing it too you guys.

-Kev
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: TJ Perry on July 03, 2007, 04:14:20 AM
  Actualy, I wish both guys would have cut some of the repetitive stuff out.  I'd rather have seen Mathias do scuffing backyard than another hitchhiker, which he seemed to start every run with.  Same with Terry and his rear to front jumps.

Jesus Christ, you are f*cking irritating. You are single handedly tearing apart these guys style becuase you want scuffing BACKYARDS?

Honestly, give up. Becuase that's not just stupid, it's insulting.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Kev on July 03, 2007, 04:28:58 AM
  Actualy, I wish both guys would have cut some of the repetitive stuff out.  I'd rather have seen Mathias do scuffing backyard than another hitchhiker, which he seemed to start every run with.  Same with Terry and his rear to front jumps.

Jesus Christ, you are ****ing irritating. You are single handedly tearing apart these guys style becuase you want scuffing BACKYARDS?

Honestly, give up. Becuase that's not just stupid, it's insulting.

And you're pretty much telling me that all my hard work for no pay was repetative, which I super resent.  I worked while driving 30 hours back east in the midst and I think I did a great job for you guys....I said I'll have a compilation video as soon as humanly possibly while still working in all the traveling that I STILL have left to do.  A final battle is just what it says....A final battle...why would we cut anything out of the final battle vids....that's what the compilation is for....that you may not even get now.

Thanks.

-Kev
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: ancientskool on July 03, 2007, 04:29:38 AM
  Actualy, I wish both guys would have cut some of the repetitive stuff out.  I'd rather have seen Mathias do scuffing backyard than another hitchhiker, which he seemed to start every run with.  Same with Terry and his rear to front jumps.

Jesus Christ, you are ****ing irritating. You are single handedly tearing apart these guys style becuase you want scuffing BACKYARDS?

No.  I said I'd rather see that than REPETITION.  I'd almost rather see Raph come out in his shorts than the same trick over...and over...and over.  I'd prefer to see a wide variety and types of tricks rather than variations of the same 2 or 3, and sometimes the same version of the same trick run after run.

What's irritating is having some guy blow a gasket because he disagrees, or doesn't understand.   I'm not even going to touch on the irony contained in the fact that someone said to me "Becuase that's not just stupid, it's insulting".  I'm going to let that slide.  :P
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: ancientskool on July 03, 2007, 04:34:09 AM
  Actualy, I wish both guys would have cut some of the repetitive stuff out.  I'd rather have seen Mathias do scuffing backyard than another hitchhiker, which he seemed to start every run with.  Same with Terry and his rear to front jumps.

Jesus Christ, you are ****ing irritating. You are single handedly tearing apart these guys style becuase you want scuffing BACKYARDS?

Honestly, give up. Becuase that's not just stupid, it's insulting.

And you're pretty much telling me that all my hard work for no pay was repetative, which I super resent.  I worked while driving 30 hours back east in the midst and I think I did a great job for you guys....I said I'll have a compilation video as soon as humanly possibly while still working in all the traveling that I STILL have left to do.  A final battle is just what it says....A final battle...why would we cut anything out of the final battle vids....that's what the compilation is for....that you may not even get now.

Thanks.

-Kev

Whuh?  :huh:

Are we all speaking English here?

How someone can go from me stating that I wished riders wouldn't do the same trick over...and over...and over in a run, to me not enjoying or appreciating the filming of the final battle itself is baffling.  Especially when the person doing the video has no control over what is happening on the floor.  Someone call Sherlock Holmes...because I can't figure out this mystery!
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: kabirun on July 03, 2007, 04:52:06 AM
yeah, lets not get confussed here. Ancient Skool is happy with Terry's run/styule and I'm not. but that is irrelevant now. we are all flatlanders and have preferences and strong opinions over what styles we like or not. some like bent tubes other don't.


Peace

K
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Kev on July 03, 2007, 04:56:44 AM
  Actualy, I wish both guys would have cut some of the repetitive stuff out.  I'd rather have seen Mathias do scuffing backyard than another hitchhiker, which he seemed to start every run with.  Same with Terry and his rear to front jumps.

Jesus Christ, you are ****ing irritating. You are single handedly tearing apart these guys style becuase you want scuffing BACKYARDS?

Honestly, give up. Becuase that's not just stupid, it's insulting.

And you're pretty much telling me that all my hard work for no pay was repetative, which I super resent.  I worked while driving 30 hours back east in the midst and I think I did a great job for you guys....I said I'll have a compilation video as soon as humanly possibly while still working in all the traveling that I STILL have left to do.  A final battle is just what it says....A final battle...why would we cut anything out of the final battle vids....that's what the compilation is for....that you may not even get now.

Thanks.

-Kev

Whuh?  :huh:

Are we all speaking English here?

How someone can go from me stating that I wished riders wouldn't do the same trick over...and over...and over in a run, to me not enjoying or appreciating the filming of the final battle itself is baffling.  Especially when the person doing the video has no control over what is happening on the floor.  Someone call Sherlock Holmes...because I can't figure out this mystery!

I'm sorry, you're right, I mis-understood....I thought you meant we should cut that out of the video.  My bad.  My apologies.

-Kev
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: ancientskool on July 03, 2007, 04:59:25 AM
Exactly.

I've said all along that Mathias's run ROCKED.  I simply provided what I thought was constructive criticism based on MY preferences.

I don't have a thing against his riding or anyone else who rides like him.  I simply said what I preffered.  I don't have a beef with anyone who disagrees and can still respect the amount of work and talent it takes to do something even if I prefer a different style.

Don't be annoyed...if you disagree just state why.  The insults aren't necessary.  :wub:

Kev:  No prob.  The VIDEO ROCKED as well.  A lot of us couldn't be having this conversation right now without it.  In fact, in another thread I pointed out that I noted the sponsors of the event and that I was going to try and show my appreciation for their support with support in kind with my dollars.  I should have thanked you as well, seeing how you did it without the benefit of promotion for a money making venture like the sponors.  For that I appologize.  :beer:


 :mellow:
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Kev on July 03, 2007, 05:24:53 AM
Kev:  No prob.  The VIDEO ROCKED as well.  A lot of us couldn't be having this conversation right now without it.  In fact, in another thread I pointed out that I noted the sponsors of the event and that I was going to try and show my appreciation for their support with support in kind with my dollars.  I should have thanked you as well, seeing how you did it without the benefit of promotion for a money making venture like the sponors.  For that I appologize.  :beer:


 :mellow:

Yeah, I remember reading that, and that is a great attitude....And I def. appreciate the kind words.  Cheers!  :beer:

-Kev
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: TJ Perry on July 03, 2007, 05:49:36 AM
Exactly.

I've said all along that Mathias's run ROCKED.  I simply provided what I thought was constructive criticism based on MY preferences.



Exactly. YOUR preferences.

You must really be out of touch with how hard some of the stuff these guys are doing to understand how difficult it is to get it dialed. The stuff most pros are doing are such.. tightly nit tricks that take so much practice in that one particular area of the bike that like, you just don't have time to learn to dial in some remotely different backwheel combo. It's just... hard man. I mean.. Raphael is the ONLY rider that I see now a days that went from rocking hardcore on the front, to completely obliterating the back wheel. That makes him one of my favorite riders DESPITE him telling me to shut my mouth ( :( ) So there's your variety for you.

Just the way you sound is like... completely knocking Matthias's stuff when I don't think you even have the slightest idea of how hard it is.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: ancientskool on July 03, 2007, 06:09:54 AM
You must really be out of touch with how hard some of the stuff these guys are doing to understand how difficult it is to get it dialed.


Not at all.  I sure would hope though that a guy who does nothing but front wheel tricks could do them better than a guy who spent time focusing on equally hard tricks in a variety of positions using different parts of the bike.  Hard is hard...whether you do it on a front or rear wheel.

I respect the work, love the tricks, I'd just like to see it taken to the next level where a guy could bust equally well on both wheels.  Or at least try. :)

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It's just... hard man. I mean.. Raphael is the ONLY rider that I see now a days that went from rocking hardcore on the front, to completely obliterating the back wheel. That makes him one of my favorite riders DESPITE him telling me to shut my mouth ( :( ) So there's your variety for you.

We're on the same page.  The ability shown in one of your "favorite riders" is what I really like.  I don't dislike front wheel tricks or LOVE back wheel tricks.  I'm just pushing for variety.  It's the spice of life, dontcha know?  ^_^
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: TJ Perry on July 03, 2007, 06:11:15 AM


We're on the same page.  The ability shown in one of your "favorite riders" is what I really like.  I don't dislike front wheel tricks or LOVE back wheel tricks.  I'm just pushing for variety.  It's the spice of life, dontcha know?  ^_^

Yeah, but... now he rides solely back wheel. It's kind of a catch 22.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: wookie on July 03, 2007, 06:27:57 AM
From what I saw on the video and have read here everybody needs to chill out a bit on the Terry/Matthias debate.  Those guys didn't seem to care who won and gave each other the utmost respect.  Everyone could learn a thing or two, and not just tricks, from them.  Its flatland, its a judged event, they both rocked.

brian
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: jffe on July 03, 2007, 07:06:07 AM
----Thanks to Global for the downloadable final pro battle, much appreciated. If Freecaster ponied up some $ for the prize, then bully to them too, but their video playback system sucks b*lls regardless. A Pro qualifier best-of would be great too, but that's up to the poor guy who had to drive there and back etc., thanks for posting the downloadable pro final though, good stuff.  -_-

jffe
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: D.Demo on July 03, 2007, 09:39:05 AM
ok i think i just shi*t myself!!!
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Stereolab on July 03, 2007, 05:47:24 PM
And you're pretty much telling me that all my hard work for no pay was repetative, which I super resent.  I worked while driving 30 hours back east in the midst and I think I did a great job for you guys....I said I'll have a compilation video as soon as humanly possibly while still working in all the traveling that I STILL have left to do.  A final battle is just what it says....A final battle...why would we cut anything out of the final battle vids....that's what the compilation is for....that you may not even get now.

Thanks.

-Kev

Please, please, PLEASE don't ever play the martyr, making sure to tell everyone HOW MUCH YOU DO FOR BMX and how underappreciated you are

because, speaking only for myself, I've had about enough of that over the last five years and two flatland message boards

just my two cents
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Kev on July 03, 2007, 11:18:50 PM
And you're pretty much telling me that all my hard work for no pay was repetative, which I super resent.  I worked while driving 30 hours back east in the midst and I think I did a great job for you guys....I said I'll have a compilation video as soon as humanly possibly while still working in all the traveling that I STILL have left to do.  A final battle is just what it says....A final battle...why would we cut anything out of the final battle vids....that's what the compilation is for....that you may not even get now.

Thanks.

-Kev

Please, please, PLEASE don't ever play the martyr, making sure to tell everyone HOW MUCH YOU DO FOR BMX and how underappreciated you are

because, speaking only for myself, I've had about enough of that over the last five years and two flatland message boards

just my two cents

F.U.C.K YOU, I told him I mis-understood him.  I would have never said that had I not mis-understood the situation, which if you would have continued to read instead of just hitting the quote button, you would know. 

And actually, since you mention it, this was my first comp I've ever been to period, and the first comp I did coverage of obviously, and it was hard damn work...I was never asking for anything from anyone...I normally am proud to do something like this for the flat community, except the fact that I know there are people like you running around this forum.  Keep in mind....you don't ****in know me, so don't talk to me like you do.

-Kev
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: The BYKE Project on July 04, 2007, 01:14:42 AM
Yo Kev, did we ever meet this past weekend?  did you ever come by our tent to introduce yourself?  Can't recall.  And thanks for all of the coverage you did for this event.  This is probably the most coverage any one person has done for any flatland event.  Great job. 
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: ASC on July 04, 2007, 01:50:00 AM
Hi Kev,

From us fellow volunteers to another, congratulations for all your efforts and hard work.
We did not have a problem viewing the footage, it worked fine on our MACBOOK.
Plug, Plug.lol...or as our "ASC General" likes to say HA!

If anything the VooDoo Jam is one of the most inspiring from all the International pro/am comps out there, we can't imagine how awesome this event must have been live. Most of us are Street BMXers, Free Riders and Skateboarders, just seeing the vibes flowing from the short footage, is enough to make us appreciate all that is Flatland. COOL!

Cheers to everyone who participated and especially the Events Organizers and all the Great Riders,

From all the ASC Riders.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Stereolab on July 04, 2007, 08:39:19 PM

F.U.C.K YOU, I told him I mis-understood him.  I would have never said that had I not mis-understood the situation, which if you would have continued to read instead of just hitting the quote button, you would know. 

And actually, since you mention it, this was my first comp I've ever been to period, and the first comp I did coverage of obviously, and it was hard damn work...I was never asking for anything from anyone...I normally am proud to do something like this for the flat community, except the fact that I know there are people like you running around this forum.  Keep in mind....you don't ****in know me, so don't talk to me like you do.

-Kev

Wow, stay classy.
Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: bhuffman on July 05, 2007, 02:40:48 PM
Full results on bmxonline....

Title: Re: Voodoo Jam 2007: Final Pro Battle
Post by: Kev on July 05, 2007, 03:58:07 PM
Yo Kev, did we ever meet this past weekend?  did you ever come by our tent to introduce yourself?  Can't recall.  And thanks for all of the coverage you did for this event.  This is probably the most coverage any one person has done for any flatland event.  Great job. 

Man, I kept tryin to come by, but everytime I made it over you looked really involved or busy with something, so I figured I would just come back...!  I think I said Hi a couple times, but don't think we got formally introduced, however, I could also be forgetting since I met soooo many people.  What's the next comp you will be attending? 

And good work with all you're support at Voodoo.  You guys do an awesome job and thanks for your kind words about the coverage, I really had one of the best times of my life in New Orleans and can't wait for next year.

-Kev