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Title: a bad thing
Post by: PZA on July 20, 2010, 03:32:59 PM
where can i buy this stuff? there distribution seems a bit of a bad thing you cant even get stuff off the website?!
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: Havokflat on July 20, 2010, 04:47:00 PM
why would you want anything from them?
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: khe killah on July 20, 2010, 07:42:28 PM
why would you want anything from them?

+1 he's right you know... Why would you? Hav'nt you seen the negative ABT threads on here!? All there stuff is expensive and breaks easy...  :wacko:
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: Havokflat on July 20, 2010, 08:17:53 PM
both FF and Kunstform sell ABT product.
i'm sure one of them if not both will have
those seats.
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: Flatland-Cris on July 20, 2010, 08:23:02 PM
i think the seat is the only good thing they do the old white ones where good!
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: Havokflat on July 20, 2010, 08:29:29 PM
hmm... i did look and didnt see but ill loook again.........ps i just emailed matthias :P
FF has no ABT seats, in stock, but are you sure they've been released to shops?

i really don't think you'll have a rough time finding these, man.
maybe a little time ...
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: Pat on July 20, 2010, 08:41:27 PM
flatlandfuel is no longer a distributor of a bad thing products
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: robpossible on July 20, 2010, 09:21:35 PM
It's just a cover... The seat is just the same as all the other flatland seats. Make your own cover that says "A Bad Thing" and your set.
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: katobmx on July 20, 2010, 09:28:24 PM
flatlandfuel is no longer a distributor of a bad thing products
im not sure if they still exist period. IN one of the pictures of the lists qualifying riders Alex, Raph, nor Matthias had ABT listed as one of there sponsors  :huh:
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: Ultraman Zoffy on July 21, 2010, 01:32:06 AM
I actually want a pair of their rounded pegs for my back wheel, so good question PZA...  :beer:
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: faqe on July 21, 2010, 02:46:37 AM

where can i buy this stuff? there distribution seems a bit of a bad thing you cant even get stuff off the website?!

have u tried the koxx uk distribution? they got abt parts.

I actually want a pair of their rounded pegs for my back wheel, so good question PZA...  :beer:

there's a few online shop that still have the abt pegs..


the only stuff that is abt definitely sold out is the slim fit frame, i have been looking for it almost everywhere 7months ago and no luck finding one.
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: faqe on July 21, 2010, 03:21:20 AM
http://www.k-124.co.uk/ (http://www.k-124.co.uk/)

got few parts for my friend from them.they got all abt parts except the slim fit frame :(
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: Flatland-Cris on July 21, 2010, 07:38:39 PM
uk distrubution?? trying to find flatland stuff in uk is like looking for a chocolate needle in a warm barn.......is it even possible?! where do you shop......i certainly dont know any distributors im only riding flatland for a couple of months  :P  i think they might actually be trying to keep it a secret here but i got the world wide web  ^_^
i can second this the uk and flatland do not match unfortantly :(
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: faqe on July 22, 2010, 02:34:44 AM
khe parts  is not that hard to find in uk but if ur lookin for other bmx brand u gotta find it somewhere else.

i got some of my ares parts from bmxforce,french webshop and magicfruits n 059 from rasobmx,hungarian webshop.
i wish that japan is much more closer..damn those poly 059 pegs are nice!!
 
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: Netinterspac on July 22, 2010, 03:42:40 AM
khe parts  is not that hard to find in uk but if ur lookin for other bmx brand u gotta find it somewhere else.

i got some of my ares parts from bmxforce,french webshop and magicfruits n 059 from rasobmx,hungarian webshop.
i wish that japan is much more closer..damn those poly 059 pegs are nice!!
 

RasoBMX is Portuguese. ;)
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: Ultraman Zoffy on July 22, 2010, 10:19:52 AM
[url]http://www.k-124.co.uk/[/url] ([url]http://www.k-124.co.uk/[/url])

got few parts for my friend from them.they got all abt parts except the slim fit frame :(


How was the service ordering from the Koxx site? I saw this the other day and almost gave it a shot, but there wasn't a selection option to specify the "rounded" capped pegs, so I waited on it. Seemed odd to not have an options button for these...
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: faqe on July 22, 2010, 11:38:39 AM
khe parts  is not that hard to find in uk but if ur lookin for other bmx brand u gotta find it somewhere else.

i got some of my ares parts from bmxforce,french webshop and magicfruits n 059 from rasobmx,hungarian webshop.
i wish that japan is much more closer..damn those poly 059 pegs are nice!!
 


RasoBMX is Portuguese. ;)


yup, my mistake. Portuguese.   but i did buy few parts from hungarian bmx webshops though.


[url]http://www.k-124.co.uk/[/url] ([url]http://www.k-124.co.uk/[/url])

got few parts for my friend from them.they got all abt parts except the slim fit frame :(


How was the service ordering from the Koxx site? I saw this the other day and almost gave it a shot, but there wasn't a selection option to specify the "rounded" capped pegs, so I waited on it. Seemed odd to not have an options button for these...


just email them, they did reply quickly for my frame enquiry last time.
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: das-owal on July 23, 2010, 12:40:42 AM
Try Kunstform! http://www.kunstform.org/de/?osCsid=8f5b577f41131b09e72c0f792dc25ec6 (http://www.kunstform.org/de/?osCsid=8f5b577f41131b09e72c0f792dc25ec6)
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: K-124 on October 22, 2010, 11:27:25 PM
Hi,

Please contact us at info@k-124.com for ordering parts in europe.
We have a stock in France and in Taiwan.
We can keep back some parts in France or for our UK distributor if we don't have some stock in France.

thanks !
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: comay on October 22, 2010, 11:36:06 PM
sonntyo-.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbBt1WOvAJ4#)
it is a very bad thing
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: K-124 on October 25, 2010, 05:24:39 PM

Our first frame.
not designed for this kind of riding.
After so many try, what can I say?

The new slimfit has been designed for newschool flatland riding.


Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: rick macdonald on October 25, 2010, 05:29:17 PM
Whoppers are brutal on ANY frame...for sure.
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: Revig on October 26, 2010, 01:06:03 AM
I actually want a pair of their rounded pegs for my back wheel, so good question PZA...  :beer:

Advice : just avoid these pegs, after some months of bails on them (and this is something that happens a lot of time, it's "normal" I suppose) you may not be able to change your tire if you got a puncture in the rear wheel coz you won't be able to unscrew the cap (and this is not "normal" I suppose) .

2 succesive reasons for that :
1.
the hole in the cap where you put the allen key will be blocked with all the alloy that will go inside just after some bails on it. One preventive solution for that problem is to enlarge the edges of the allen hole by drilling a little bit with a 10 mm drill. But that won't cover you with the second problem that will follow inevitably :

2.
after a normal use of the bike (with normal and regular bails as we can see on that video when the peg hits on the ground again and again (http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?topic=40969.msg355437#msg355437)), the cap will settle in the peg and litterally these two parts will make one piece : the thread of the cap will slide gradually on the thread of the peg and it will be impossible to unscrew the cap from the peg with your allen key. Probably because that's a soft 6061 T6 aluminium body..
Then, the three solutions for that unavoidable problem for a real user of a flatland bike (who is not sponsored and able to change often his pegs) are :
. drill perpendicularly the body of the peg in order to put an iron bar (or something similar) on it to get a lever,
. or you drill the cap in order to fit directly a socket inside the peg (then you get a big hole and no more rounded cap),
. or you cut the peg at the end in order to fit directly a socket inside the peg (then you get a big hole, short pegs and no more rounded caps).
My friend only had a saw and not a drill machine so he choose the last solution and then he gets short pegs now (!!)..
Just imagine the situation if your spot is 30 minutes far from your home and you don't have a saw in your bag (like everybody I suppose)
But at least maybe it's cool because that's possibly the new trend for now  ^_^ (http://alexjumelin.blogspot.com/2010/10/new-bike-style.html)

It's a shame that A Bad Thing choose to not test the pegs in the long term, these problems could have been detected if that has been the case..
The only good thing on these bad pegs is the possibility to put on them the ingenious chain tensioner "TRY-ALL CNC Snail Cam" (concept used for longtime in the trial bikes) which allow to tend the chain with the hand by turning a little bit the peg before tightening it, that seems very smart, hope there is a testing time at the moment.
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: MING on October 26, 2010, 07:59:38 PM
I had the forks for 7 months they fractured on both sides one side has a big crack.You can see the metal has tiny air bubbles along the taper on the inside edge of the forks.  Im not a heavy person nor rider. Its ashame because the design and shape are awesome.
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: Wouter van der Linde on October 26, 2010, 08:02:40 PM

Our first frame.
not designed for this kind of riding.
After so many try, what can I say?

The new slimfit has been designed for newschool flatland riding.





Nice, I wish more company's where that honest as yours.
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: JAY1WM on October 26, 2010, 08:48:25 PM
uk distrubution?? trying to find flatland stuff in uk is like looking for a chocolate needle in a warm barn.......is it even possible?! where do you shop......i certainly dont know any distributors im only riding flatland for a couple of months  :P  i think they might actually be trying to keep it a secret here but i got the world wide web  ^_^

i can second this the uk and flatland do not match unfortantly :(


http://www.extremesponsors.com/k124uk/index.html?allp=&allv=1 (http://www.extremesponsors.com/k124uk/index.html?allp=&allv=1)
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: K-124 on October 27, 2010, 03:48:24 PM

Hi Guys,

Concering the pegs I have added a big chamfer on the pegs but it seems that it is not enough.
I can drill them for sure :-)

Concerning the forks, we have changed the process.
The last productions are really stronger than the first one.
We are testing the new V3 version (check Matthias blog) and hope that it will be again better.

We are a young company in flatland we try to do our best and to improve the parts at each productions.

Thank you for your feedbacks and reports.
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: out~riding on October 27, 2010, 06:47:44 PM
There is a thought:
When you make a new production of a part, for example the forks, can you stamp a number 3 or something like that so people can distinguish which version it is?
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: Ken NJ on November 12, 2010, 04:35:19 PM
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Tailwhip to 1/2 cracker

Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: byke on November 12, 2010, 04:59:11 PM

Hi Guys,

Concering the pegs I have added a big chamfer on the pegs but it seems that it is not enough.
I can drill them for sure :-)

Concerning the forks, we have changed the process.
The last productions are really stronger than the first one.
We are testing the new V3 version (check Matthias blog) and hope that it will be again better.

We are a young company in flatland we try to do our best and to improve the parts at each productions.

Thank you for your feedbacks and reports.

I also believe you are a well established brand (K-124) that has dealt in bikes for many years.
However your flaunting of EU rules regarding warranty and responsibility has been duly noted on this forum numerous times with a high amount of very unhappy customers, and while you may not have designed certain products to withstand certain styles of riding as you claim ... you still have a responsibility to ensure safety and make sure that any warranties based on the 6month - 2 year period under eu law is met.

I have never bought "A bad thing" product and based on many of the stories on here never will either. Personally I hope your company folds soon, as customers are not here to work as prototype testers simply because you havent got your sh*t together.

I can promise you one thing though, and that is if a fellow member does have another warranty issue regarding poor workmanship and piss poor design, if they ask me for help I will guide them through all the legal process for free to ensure that your company is held accountable to the fullest through both french and EU laws.
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: Ken NJ on November 12, 2010, 08:03:42 PM
I actually liked the forks but same for me, they cracked in 7 month or so and I'm only 5'8, 150lbs..  I went through Alot of headache trying to get warrantied to no avail.. I would have put them back on too..
 And I was telling my brother that he should start looking at new frames cause I knew that it's getting colder outside and he was going to break his abt frame soon..here we are now less than a week later and snap! In fairness he was riding this frame for more than 2 years after getting it from A fellow gf'r
I'd be lying if I said "I hate to say I told u so"..
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: Ken NJ on November 13, 2010, 03:15:50 AM
booyah!  ^_^ ;D
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: JUGGARNAUT on November 13, 2010, 04:42:34 AM
HOLY sh*t KEN!
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: metalbmxer on November 13, 2010, 09:01:59 AM
dont u know u have to prewarm those frames if its cold out!
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: katobmx on November 13, 2010, 07:50:00 PM
booyah!  ^_^ ;D

sucks that you lost all those stickers dude. I'm sorry
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: Ken NJ on November 13, 2010, 10:58:35 PM
haha!  it's all good.. that's the price of being hardcore :mellow:
Title: Re: a bad thing
Post by: das-owal on August 05, 2013, 05:55:09 PM

after a normal use of the bike (with normal and regular bails as we can see on that video when the peg hits on the ground again and again (http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?topic=40969.msg355437#msg355437)), the cap will settle in the peg and litterally these two parts will make one piece : the thread of the cap will slide gradually on the thread of the peg and it will be impossible to unscrew the cap from the peg with your allen key. Probably because that's a soft 6061 T6 aluminium body..
Then, the three solutions for that unavoidable problem for a real user of a flatland bike (who is not sponsored and able to change often his pegs) are :
. drill perpendicularly the body of the peg in order to put an iron bar (or something similar) on it to get a lever,
. or you drill the cap in order to fit directly a socket inside the peg (then you get a big hole and no more rounded cap),
. or you cut the peg at the end in order to fit directly a socket inside the peg (then you get a big hole, short pegs and no more rounded caps).

[/quote]Like in every case when you have a thread you should use some grease bevore tigthening it... I rode my AbT Pegs for two years and still have them here. They have other problems - yes - but you dont have to cut them of if you installed them properly!