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English => Flatland Media => Topic started by: flatario on June 19, 2010, 08:18:12 PM
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPJftqvpBn0&playnext_from=TL&videos=wKIBq-vagWQ&feature=sub[/youtube]
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I feel like moto sasaki took my virginity. After I saw his vid nothing will be the same :rolleyes:
Although this vid is very good too :P
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I feel like moto sasaki took my virginity. After I saw his vid nothing will be the same :rolleyes:
Although this vid is very good too :P
yeah i feel the same :P
thanks lord im not a judge, is a awesome video too nice original style... :beer:
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Very original rider and sick tricks but I think it would be even better if he put a little more variety in his run with some front wheel action.
I'm waiting until he does that step over without laying the bike on the ground. That will be sick.
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Incredible video. Martti's contest is turning out to be the best thing in the history of ever.
I think Moto is in the lead; however it comes down to how the videos are judged. If Takahiro's video were to place higher, I would have no problem with it. Tons of originality, style, control, and sheer entertainment value.
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And to people who think "style" shouldn't be considered in contests, this video is some evidence of why I disagree. He absolutely OWNS that bike and those tricks. It's more impressive to me than if someone were tentative and sketchy while doing the same stuff.
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And to people who think "style" shouldn't be considered in contests, this video is some evidence of why I disagree.
Then this is why you shouldn't judge.
If you have the tricks dialed enough to pull this consistently your style is going to emerge naturally anyway. The reason style isn't judged is because its personal preference.
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why are the finals or whatever of ground tactics all 3 minute unedited filled with crazy combos?
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OMG
backwheel ftw :D
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why are the finals or whatever of ground tactics all 3 minute unedited filled with crazy combos?
because thats what martti asked for.
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And to people who think "style" shouldn't be considered in contests, this video is some evidence of why I disagree.
Then this is why you shouldn't judge.
If you have the tricks dialed enough to pull this consistently your style is going to emerge naturally anyway. The reason style isn't judged is because its personal preference.
I just don't agree. In baseball, there's consensus as to who has the best swing. In acting, there's consensus as to who can deliver their lines the best. In figure skating, there's consensus as to who has the best form. I just don't think flatland's any different.
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I just don't agree. In baseball, there's consensus as to who has the best swing. In acting, there's consensus as to who can deliver their lines the best. In figure skating, there's consensus as to who has the best form. I just don't think flatland's any different.
You don't have to think flatland is any different. However, if I do one of Motos tricks flawlessly, and Moto does one of his tricks flawlessly, our styles are going to be vastly different. So who is better there?
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I just don't agree. In baseball, there's consensus as to who has the best swing. In acting, there's consensus as to who can deliver their lines the best. In figure skating, there's consensus as to who has the best form. I just don't think flatland's any different.
You don't have to think flatland is any different. However, if I do one of Motos tricks flawlessly, and Moto does one of his tricks flawlessly, our styles are going to be vastly different. So who is better there?
We'd know when we watched it. If you were to duplicate Moto's link, you both would score about a million points under Chad's old scoring system (although I think I saw some deductions for scuffing there)...but that's just not how I think flatland should be judged.
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I just don't agree. In baseball, there's consensus as to who has the best swing. In acting, there's consensus as to who can deliver their lines the best. In figure skating, there's consensus as to who has the best form. I just don't think flatland's any different.
You don't have to think flatland is any different. However, if I do one of Motos tricks flawlessly, and Moto does one of his tricks flawlessly, our styles are going to be vastly different. So who is better there?
maybe he should have said, form, instead of style.
in baseball you don't win for having the best swing; it has nothing to do
with who goes home the winner. maybe skating is similar, because if Tj and Moto
did the same run and both were 'flawless', then wouldn't smoothness/form account
for a little if all other things were equal?
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I just don't agree. In baseball, there's consensus as to who has the best swing. In acting, there's consensus as to who can deliver their lines the best. In figure skating, there's consensus as to who has the best form. I just don't think flatland's any different.
You don't have to think flatland is any different. However, if I do one of Motos tricks flawlessly, and Moto does one of his tricks flawlessly, our styles are going to be vastly different. So who is better there?
maybe he should have said, form, instead of style.
in baseball you don't win for having the best swing; it has nothing to do
with who goes home the winner. maybe skating is similar, because if Tj and Moto
did the same run and both were 'flawless', then wouldn't smoothness/form account
for a little if all other things were equal?
That's a fair point...but just as the baseball players with the best swings often have the best batting averages (and therefore do help their teams win), the riders with the best style (or form, or whatever) often are more likely to hit their tricks, in addition to making them look better.
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That's a fair point...but just as the baseball players with the best swings often have the best batting averages (and therefore do help their teams win), the riders with the best style (or form, or whatever) often are more likely to hit their tricks, in addition to making them look better.
Now you are judging in hypotheticals.
What is the "best" style?
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that was sick!!!! :mellow: -_- -_-
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Style/form: Either you got it or don't...but powerful to encompass and be. Those who know their craft inside out, its part and parcel to their expression and being. A simple gesture becomes amped.
Skills/Tech/Form = Style. YOU GOT TO EARN TO BURN IT!
N
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That's a fair point...but just as the baseball players with the best swings often have the best batting averages (and therefore do help their teams win), the riders with the best style (or form, or whatever) often are more likely to hit their tricks, in addition to making them look better.
Now you are judging in hypotheticals.
What is the "best" style?
It IS all hypothetical. Let's say for the sake of argument Shintaro is the smoothest pro right now...someone might come along tomorrow that's twice as smooth. But obviously there's something to be said for fast riding (a la Marcos de Jesus), and own-the-bike riding (a la Pete Brandt), and who knows how many other styles. That "style" is often a main thing people take from watching them ride. It matters. Sure it's subjective, but in the end you have to trust that the judges know what "looked the best."
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I wonder how hard that rideout at 1:36 is. That is soooo bad ass.
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Sure it's subjective, but in the end you have to trust that the judges know what "looked the best."
I don't trust judges to pick out a clear winner based on consistency alone let alone something as subjective as style. I've seen so many stupid f*cking decisions by judges in the last few years that adding another category they can shelter their idiotic opinions/biases in just seems highly counter productive.
Not all judges are idiots, just saying some I've seen and sat with are.
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I just watched this video like ten times in a row.
this rider is amazing at his tricks. verry consistant
verry difficult style of trick / link I see. verry fast also
I realley liked this video alot.
the speed of his tricks are amazing
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He really brought the heat it seems with this edit. I dont really remember seeing edits like ive seen from these ground tactics entries.Its really raw.
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pza do you even ride? Seems like you just try to attack tj instead lol
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oh i don't care what you say to tj, im sure he doesn't need me "helping" him.
It just hurts me so bad that I waste few seconds of my life pressing on the "new" button next to a thread just to see something posting bullsh*t about tj\any other person.
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*sighs*
Stop ruining good threads people. This goes to everyone. If you have nothing good to contribute, don't post it.
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*sighs*
Stop ruining good threads people. This goes to everyone. If you have nothing good to contribute, don't post it.
Sometimes I just need to take a break from all this god damn sunshine and rainbow nonsense pouring out of my ass Karl; why you gotta hate?
:P