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Title: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group OVER Winner- flaTTech
Post by: ondo on May 02, 2010, 09:07:33 AM
Expert: 12 riders

flaTTech 1st place

Theory 2nd place

bryan81 3rd place

AtlFlatCrew
Ginman
pine

Semifinal results:
AtlFlatCrew vs Theory
pine vs bryan81
Ginman vs flaTTech

MICHELE
Maxime Luchetti
HUCK
flatforever
Koshtrik
Jose Felix

Qualification results:
MICHELE vs Theory
Koshtrik vs AtlFlatCrew
bryan81 vs Maxime Luchetti
Jose Felix vs pine
flaTTech vs HUCK
Ginman vs flatforever

Expert Judges
-That Joe Miller
-2flat2furious
-franciscofromperu
-Ronny @ Kassel
-ondo

Some basic rules:

1)I announce the first battle between 2 riders. From the moment there is a 4 day limit for those two riders to film and send the video links via PM to me! This rule is just for fairness, it's nothing if you post it in the battle thread. When both riders have sent me links- I post them in the first and the last post of their group!
2)The video can be edited or unedited, but must be maximum 50 seconds long. When the first battle series in each group are over(8 battles), then the next round adds +20 seconds. So the lenght in series are:
- First 8 battles= 50 sec
- Quarterfinals= 1 min 10sec
- Semifinals= 1 min 30 sec
- Finals= 1min 50 sec
This is the maximum of video lenght- you don't have to fill it up compulsory.
3)The run can consist of combos or just tricks, but if edited, they should be with ride ins and outs.
4)For each battle your run must be different.
5)It is forbidden to use old, filmed videos before the competition.
New rules about the video lenght.
1)A subjective point, but I can "allow" the rider to finish his combo and do the ride out if it goes just <10 seconds more.
2)So then there is a question, which combo can be longer?
- The combo which starts not later than 20 seconds before the end of the run.
3) It is hard to tell, if the run is too long, because, it can really contain small tricks in the beggining and the long one combo is pressed in the end, to gain extra time. That will be not allowed too.
For example: If you got two combos: 26 and 32 seconds long. If you put them together in that order, then you get 58 sec and the combo did start 20 sec before the end(as mentioned before), but the main rule wich corrects it all: If your run is over time limit, it is allowed only then, IF THE LONGEST COMBO IS IN THE BEGINNING!
I'll check every video and I'll be critical about the use of extra time!
4)If the video contains title(something meaningful), the video can be longer as the title lenght
5) If the rider can pull a combo for all his given time in run, my judgement on the time allowed will be subjective and slightly positive on allowing using the extra time.
So what is the solution?
- First off, if some rules are disobeyed, I'll ask to correctly repost the video(if only the 4 day period is still active). If not, the rider can be disqualified.
- There is another solution. If you don't want to repost the video, you can still proceed with the battle, but if you surpass the time limit unpermitted, then the judges will take this seriously considering voting.
6)After both rider videos are posted or the 4day period is over- the judges watch the videos and vote. They send their votes and explanations to me via PM.
7)As votes from judges are collected, the winner of the battle is announced.
8 ) The winner countinues to fight in the finals(if they are). The looser fails. (There could be some additional battles later)
9)The next battle starts after the previous battle ends.
10)One battle will happen in each class simultaneously
11)Some changes into limits or structure can occur.
12) The winners will recieve prizes
13) If you are busy, please let me know I can arrange your battles. The list of those who are busy is in the signing up thread![/b]

Sponsors: flatlandfuel diversionTV

I'll try to get some more sponsors. If you know someone who would like to sponsor this competition, contact me!


THE FINAL BATTLE

Theory
Final Battle (http://vimeo.com/11913009)

vs

flaTTech
Untitled (http://vimeo.com/12191369)
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flatforever)
Post by: ondo on May 02, 2010, 09:12:43 AM
First expert battle!

Ginman
Ginman 1 (http://vimeo.com/11353385)

vs

flatforever
aoifjo (http://vimeo.com/11147222)
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flatforever)
Post by: ondo on May 02, 2010, 09:28:22 AM
respect to both riders. pulling things I want to do. huge speed from flatforever, but repeated inside peg turbines, could have done something else, and the run consisted of just turbines, of course difficulty on speed, turbine count and that nice lardyard.

Ginman- not so difficult with the scuffs and spins, but those few pivots are the bombs!

My vote goes to Ginman
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flatforever)
Post by: Kevin Brill @ Kassel on May 02, 2010, 09:44:02 AM
Great backwheel combo's from both! And a backwheel combo from ginman that could have nearly filled up the whole video :D It's impossible for me to even pump steamrollers that long !
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flatforever)
Post by: b_ron on May 02, 2010, 09:45:09 AM
battle of the backwheels

i vote for ginman
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flatforever)
Post by: That Joe Miller on May 02, 2010, 01:51:41 PM
Ginman gets this one mainly for the switches, both riders showed great control. Flatforever that save on the lardyard was Killer!
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flatforever)
Post by: Ginman on May 02, 2010, 03:32:30 PM
Hi flatforever,
You're a killer man!!! i love your inside megaspin turbines!!! you're SO SICK!!!
give me some tips, will you? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flatforever)
Post by: Paradoxium on May 02, 2010, 04:00:46 PM
You guys in expert are soooo good, I hope to be that good one day.  ;D :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flatforever)
Post by: kbong on May 02, 2010, 04:11:47 PM
my vote goes to ginman :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flatforever)
Post by: 2flat2furious on May 02, 2010, 08:43:38 PM
My vote goes to Ginman, but with a caveat. The tricks he did WERE more difficult compared to Flatforevers run, but if he goes up against someone with roughly equal difficulty the fact that he is riding crankless will be severely held against him when weighing my decision. Rear wheel tricks are much much easier without much weight to whip around or worrying about setting your pedals.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flatforever)
Post by: Iriez on May 02, 2010, 09:01:01 PM
I want to give it to flatforever since he used bassnectar (lol), but ginman's switches were more difficult. lol @ the save I thought you were gonna crash and burn for sure!

I didnt even notice the lack of cranks until tj pointed it out. Damn im stoned. I never looked at it from that viewpoint about the weight, but I suppose you are correct. My ufree is such a POS that I cannot get the slack right so I run zero slack and get pedal'd to the calf or heel every single time I try them lard yards.

I'll vote for you every time ginman if you can throw a gturn from the edge of the bottom bracket into every video : P
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flatforever)
Post by: Ultraman Zoffy on May 02, 2010, 09:06:54 PM
My vote goes to Ginman, but with a caveat. The tricks he did WERE more difficult compared to Flatforevers run, but if he goes up against someone with roughly equal difficulty the fact that he is riding crankless will be severely held against him when weighing my decision. Rear wheel tricks are much much easier without much weight to whip around or worrying about setting your pedals.

+1...  half the skill in working back wheel is factoring in where your cranks will be at any time. I probably could've learned dump trucks to stick b's in a fraction of the time bitd if I didn't need to figure out how to maintain the balance point while going around them. Ginman rips, but with his skill, I don't know what would've held him back from just learning the tricks with a regular setup..
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flatforever)
Post by: Ronny Engelmann @ Kassel on May 02, 2010, 09:16:52 PM
my vote goes to ginman
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flatforever)
Post by: franciscofromperu on May 02, 2010, 11:54:39 PM
My vote goes for ginman, the guys show us a very good control of the tricks on the backwheel, but the pivots, and i agree with ondo, are the best, good luck on the next round ginman.

Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: ondo on May 03, 2010, 12:23:26 AM
Ginman wins flatforever (5:0)
next battle:


flaTTech
Untitled (http://vimeo.com/11242820)

vs

HUCK
Lee Edwards - Online Flatland Battle #1 (http://vimeo.com/10937268)
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: Theory on May 03, 2010, 02:47:37 AM
These guys are all bringing it! Makes me want to re-do my video...
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: Havokflat on May 03, 2010, 02:51:45 AM
Great riding guys! ;D
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: Ultraman Zoffy on May 03, 2010, 03:01:33 AM
FlaTTech killed it for the win! Always dig watching his videos... he threw in a ton of variety in his run, and that last halflash back around to decade was a sick ender. Edwards rocked too, and I was especially feeling his video because it looks like he got stuck riding in his garage like I did for my clip. lol  Very good stuff, gentlemen.

BTW FlaTTech, I'm saving your clip to my iPod. It was too sick...  :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: Ginman on May 03, 2010, 04:45:44 AM
Hi Ondo, there they go about the crankless stuff again..
Dont they realize the trade-off of being crankless??
riding out of a lardwhip NEEDS cranks(generally..watch other vids to prove this).
landing from whoppers and decades NEEDS cranks too..
and many Pedaling/pedal Tricks are Sacrificed!

i think its just fair.

why don't you guys try removing your cranks to see for yourself if it makes
your stuff "easier"...
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: AtlFlatCrew on May 03, 2010, 04:57:54 AM
why don't you guys try removing your cranks to see for yourself if it makes
your stuff "easier"...

been at it for about a month now.. and yes all my tricks are much easier with a 12 pound scooter.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: Ginman on May 03, 2010, 05:03:43 AM
my vote goes to flattech..
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: Ginman on May 03, 2010, 05:10:30 AM
why don't you guys try removing your cranks to see for yourself if it makes
your stuff "easier"...

been at it for about a month now.. and yes all my tricks are much easier with a 12 pound scooter.

Oh, then what kind of tricks have you been doing then?
by the way, i still have to wait for June to buy some cranks,that's why i'm crankless right now..
deng!..hope i dont get kicked out of the battles yet till i can mount some cranks..whew!
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: ortho on May 03, 2010, 05:11:27 AM
why don't you guys try removing your cranks to see for yourself if it makes
your stuff "easier"...

been at it for about a month now.. and yes all my tricks are much easier with a 12 pound scooter.

Haha, i can vouch for this. Alexis is busting some wild crankless sh*t lately, like a kittten playing with a ball.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: franciscofromperu on May 03, 2010, 05:27:50 AM
my vote goes for flaTTech, he shows more flow in his sessions, huck show good tricks, but not much variations or changes, good luck in the next round  :ph34r:
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: 2flat2furious on May 03, 2010, 06:17:40 AM
why don't you guys try removing your cranks to see for yourself if it makes
your stuff "easier"...

I have and it does. I'm sorry but a bike without a drive train isn't a bike. If you can't put cranks on because you don't have the money then I'll be more than happy to ask around about getting you a set cheap, but if you are doing it out of choice then I don't really feel for you. Riding out of a lardyard does not require cranks at all, neither do the other tricks. You can do them both ways. However doing a whopper on a bike without cranks is stupid easy compared to a bike with cranks.

I'm sorry that you're offended by my position on this, but that's how I feel about it. If you can do those links WITh cranks, you would f*cking destroy expert class. think about it.

Anyway onto the current battle.

flattech pretty much just decimated Lee so my vote goes to flattech.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: animal1 on May 03, 2010, 06:51:10 AM
I 100% agree, Tj.  Crankless riders might as well slap a Razor sticker on their scooters or come up with a new name for their type of riding cos your definitely not riding flatland biCYCLES.
And yes I have tried crankless riding when my freecoaster broke and it is X10 easier.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: 2flat2furious on May 03, 2010, 08:55:46 AM
I 100% agree, Tj.  Crankless riders might as well slap a Razor sticker on their scooters or come up with a new name for their type of riding cos your definitely not riding flatland biCYCLES.
And yes I have tried crankless riding when my freecoaster broke and it is X10 easier.

That isn't the case here. He's not riding crankless for the sake of doing it like someone in bananapants here, he just has no other means of riding. However, as much as i WANT to count his tricks on the same level of difficulty, I just can't.

It sucks because it frustrates me knowing he could definitely do sh*t with cranks, but that's not what's in the video. :(
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: Iriez on May 03, 2010, 09:45:47 AM
And what about hybrid peg/bb setups?
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: animal1 on May 03, 2010, 09:57:59 AM
Same goes for them IMO.   With out an entire drivetrain you not only save huge amount of weight, but you eliminate the uneven weight distribution that goes along with having a drive train and you don't have to worry about dodging your cranks or pedal placement in a trick.
When people ride crankless it dilutes their skill level tremendously.
I understand not having the dough to get some cranks though.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: Nails on May 03, 2010, 10:08:47 AM
digging the bikes on the wall too :D

I think it looks silly having no cranks, but isn't it just a big weight reduction? How else does it take away from your riding?
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: ondo on May 03, 2010, 10:24:53 AM
Vote goes to flaTTech

Difficulty, short bomb combos, it's awesome.

Huck looks very smooth, but too slow(less links) in comparison with flaTTech.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: ondo on May 03, 2010, 10:26:50 AM
someone in bananapants here

who?  :rolleyes:


anyway, guys stop talking about it, it makes no sense. I know I'll have problems geting used to cranks, but I'll ride 5 times harder.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: Iriez on May 03, 2010, 11:41:06 AM
Same goes for them IMO.   With out an entire drivetrain you not only save huge amount of weight, but you eliminate the uneven weight distribution that goes along with having a drive train and you don't have to worry about dodging your cranks or pedal placement in a trick.
When people ride crankless it dilutes their skill level tremendously.
I understand not having the dough to get some cranks though.

A 9T rear cog w/ a lightweight chain and a 16T sprocket does not really equate to 'huge amount of weight' or massive 'uneven weight distribution'.

Crankless, yes. Hyrbrid setups, no.

IMO, its the difference between my ufree and my previous KHE reverse. THAT is the realistic difference of weight.

Are we to also criticize those who run 140mm cranks and lower aswell? Since they are smaller and lighter they obvious aide yes? Where is the stopping point? Define it.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: Ginman on May 03, 2010, 02:10:29 PM
man, I dont think there is a "stopping point"..

Flatland is Dynamic... Innovative... and it Evolves...
I think going crankless is also a part of it's evolution, i think ADAM PINTEK is the one who First rode Crankless and put Pegs on the BB instead.. :mellow: he does Original tricks (CASPER and PEG Juggler) out of his unique setup..

If there is bias in weight reduction, then would a 14lbs crankless bike be justified if his opponent is using a 14lbs normal bike?

oh well, for me its not an issue. It has advantages and disadvantes. so it is just fair..
...A cranless bike is NOT a scooter, scooters dont have a Frame, Seat, 20" tires, etc....

This issue is like the "zero offset bars/forks VS offset bars/forks"... -later on, people will accept and realize that it is just innovation,and it is a personal preference..

oh well, off we Go to the next battle... ;D
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: That Joe Miller on May 03, 2010, 02:18:47 PM
Vote goes to flaTTech on this one. Awesome riding from both guys! Huck, I had a Smooth feeling rush over me with that run, great stuff!
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: flaTTech on May 04, 2010, 01:38:08 AM
 Thanks all for the positive comments, and to Huck for the battle!  I really like your first link, great hangten to switch foot steam, nice stuff..

 Zoffy, glad you mentioned you put the clip on your Ipod,  probably the first clip of mine on an Ipod,  ha!  I've never seen anyone do that halflash to reverse boom to footjam brakeless decade before, so I'm claiming that one!   Although I would guess someone has done it before..
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: Ronny Engelmann @ Kassel on May 04, 2010, 09:02:22 AM
my vote goes to flattech

much more variety
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Jose Felix vs pine)
Post by: ondo on May 04, 2010, 09:23:15 AM
flaTTech wins HUCK (5:0)
next battle:


Jose Felix
jose.mp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23kqCmhqapw#lq-lq2-hq-vhq-hd)

vs

pine
online battle 1 (http://vimeo.com/10691566)
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Jose Felix vs pine)
Post by: b_ron on May 04, 2010, 10:33:39 AM
gaaahhh touch!

i prefer the sweet sound of the tires making love to the concrete than any music in videos  :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Jose Felix vs pine)
Post by: Iriez on May 04, 2010, 10:41:22 AM
gaaahhh touch!

i prefer the sweet sound of the tires making love to the concrete than any music in videos  :beer:

Well, if we remove the entire 2nd clip where he touches, I'll still give pine the round. The first link killed jose's run. Oh, and the random spanish throughout the vid was incredibly annoying IMO. Put some latino music to it or some sh*t hah :P
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Jose Felix vs pine)
Post by: Aeons of Flat on May 04, 2010, 11:37:32 AM
I think the spanish was great, especial the meow meow meow and his last name is felix
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Jose Felix vs pine)
Post by: jm on May 04, 2010, 04:30:36 PM
pine for the win, but next time, no touches man!
(without counting the last link with the touch, he still won imo)
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Jose Felix vs pine)
Post by: 2flat2furious on May 04, 2010, 05:26:24 PM
Pine. That pedal turbined thing was awesome. Loving it.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Jose Felix vs pine)
Post by: b_ron on May 04, 2010, 06:44:35 PM
that peg wheelie to hang5 transition is something i always wanted to try... once i get peg wheelies down
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Jose Felix vs pine)
Post by: franciscofromperu on May 04, 2010, 07:07:14 PM
My vote goes to pine, nice first rutine, the no hand spining and the pedal wheelie turbine was awesome, but props to jose felix for the song, very funny jeje.
I want to se more of you on the next round pine, but try to don't touch the floor.
good vid
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Jose Felix vs pine)
Post by: katobmx on May 04, 2010, 11:00:56 PM
should pine be in master? :huh: just wondering.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Jose Felix vs pine)
Post by: ivan-flaterOS on May 04, 2010, 11:09:32 PM
He is sick....but no...thats expert -_-
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Jose Felix vs pine)
Post by: Ultraman Zoffy on May 05, 2010, 04:17:37 AM
Pine takes it on the strength of that first combo; that touch at the end though was a dammit moment because that was a sick combo going. Jose, wth was up with your cameraman? I swear I thought he was singing a spanish version of Mr. Robotto or something... haha
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Jose Felix vs pine)
Post by: Ronny Engelmann @ Kassel on May 05, 2010, 09:15:55 AM
my vote goes to pine
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Jose Felix vs pine)
Post by: ondo on May 05, 2010, 01:12:46 PM
voted for pine
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Jose Felix vs pine)
Post by: That Joe Miller on May 05, 2010, 03:16:13 PM
I give my vote to pine, both guys did really well though. Good stuff!
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (bryan81 vs Maxime Luchetti)
Post by: ondo on May 05, 2010, 04:30:06 PM
pine wins Jose Felix (5:0)
next battle:


bryan81
pats (http://vimeo.com/11296166)

vs

Maxime Luchetti
Battle round 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb1tv-jdvNI#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (bryan81 vs Maxime Luchetti)
Post by: 2flat2furious on May 05, 2010, 04:51:48 PM
Vote goes to Bryan81. Both riders had about the same degree of difficulty, but Bryan had a higher degree of variety.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (bryan81 vs Maxime Luchetti)
Post by: That Joe Miller on May 05, 2010, 05:06:12 PM
Vote goes to Bryan81. Both riders had about the same degree of difficulty, but Bryan had a higher degree of variety.

Same here, Brian81 gets mine as well. Great riding from both, keep Killin' it guys.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (bryan81 vs Maxime Luchetti)
Post by: franciscofromperu on May 05, 2010, 07:32:19 PM
It's difficult, cause the both made a really good videos, bryan81 shows some cliffhangers and hitch hickers, but maxime show a pumpin' hitch hicker and a good crackpacker...
you too guys do a really nice job, but this time my vote goes to maxime luchetti, he shows a good combinations, I hope you do a better job in the next round
props for bryan and maxime.

Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (bryan81 vs Maxime Luchetti)
Post by: Maxime L on May 05, 2010, 08:03:26 PM
Quote
I hope you do a better job in the next round

I'll do more than my best in my next battle, if I have one  ;D
Cliffanger, back wheel link, and fire are coming really fast
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (bryan81 vs Maxime Luchetti)
Post by: b_ron on May 05, 2010, 09:53:04 PM
hmm. this is a close one but bryan81 does have more variety
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (bryan81 vs Maxime Luchetti)
Post by: Iriez on May 06, 2010, 01:18:00 AM
Vote goes to Bryan81. Both riders had about the same degree of difficulty, but Bryan had a higher degree of variety.

Couldn't have said it better +1
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: HUCK on May 06, 2010, 05:04:09 AM

[/quote]

Anyway onto the current battle.

flattech pretty much just decimated Lee so my vote goes to flattech.
[/quote]

Decimated? Really? Decimate means to destroy or kill in whole or partly. So I got decimated with 2 decade variations, a cool ride-out and lardyards? C'mon! More like I got beat out by variety! Kind of like the Ucchie and Trevor battle, wouldn't you say? 
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: katobmx on May 06, 2010, 05:12:22 AM


Anyway onto the current battle.

flattech pretty much just decimated Lee so my vote goes to flattech.
[/quote]

Decimated? Really? Decimate means to destroy or kill in whole or partly. So I got decimated with 2 decade variations, a cool ride-out and lardyards? C'mon! More like I got beat out by variety! Kind of like the Ucchie and Trevor battle, wouldn't you say? 
[/quote] ^_^
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (bryan81 vs Maxime Luchetti)
Post by: ondo on May 06, 2010, 08:30:23 AM
hard, hard, hard.

bryan has more variety, but maxime does more spinning combos, which means higher difficulty. also speed and smoothness +

vote goes to Maxime Luchetti
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (bryan81 vs Maxime Luchetti)
Post by: Ultraman Zoffy on May 06, 2010, 08:44:14 AM
Wow... not really sure which way this one falls definitively... super nice flow from both guys. Variety really does seem to be the most noticeable difference, so in that regard, bryan takes it by a hair. Maxime, I DL'd your run on my hard drive... I was really digging your style. Peace...
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (flaTTech vs HUCK)
Post by: 2flat2furious on May 06, 2010, 09:05:43 AM

Decimated? Really? Decimate means to destroy or kill in whole or partly. So I got decimated with 2 decade variations, a cool ride-out and lardyards? C'mon! More like I got beat out by variety! Kind of like the Ucchie and Trevor battle, wouldn't you say?  

Wow.

You lost because his tricks were harder, he had more originality, and he had a greater degree of variety. His last trick was more difficult and original than either of your links.

Instead of getting upset and sh*tting on the guy's riding like you're doing now, how about you gain a realistic perspective of how difficult his tricks are and then after you do that you can brush them off like they're nothing; just like you're doing now and you did with.. let's see... the Trevor Ucchie battle, wouldn't you say?
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (bryan81 vs Maxime Luchetti)
Post by: Theory on May 06, 2010, 12:19:40 PM
2:2! Looks like Ronny is the final deciding factor here, exciting!
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (bryan81 vs Maxime Luchetti)
Post by: ondo on May 06, 2010, 09:23:54 PM
Did anyone actually read this whole thing? Ha Ha!

I read a half. :)
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (bryan81 vs Maxime Luchetti)
Post by: franciscofromperu on May 06, 2010, 09:32:54 PM
Hey guys, what's up?? this is a friendly forum, not for having problems with each rider that we dismissed.
If you want to fight, I invite everyone for take some time to battle in the fight club, but here we only need to support to all the competitors and don't criticism their rutines or if they're win or lose, please, expend your time riding and getting better or if you don't like watch tv, listen music or hang out with your friends, but don't waste your time doing st**id things in the forum, specially in the battler thread cause no one wants to read a lot of bullsh*** in this competition, is somebody is angry with another rider, let him know via pm or msn or the way what you want, but not here please.
so this is for everyone who wants to hanging here and writing st***id stuff

thanks
Francisco
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (bryan81 vs Maxime Luchetti)
Post by: Ronny Engelmann @ Kassel on May 06, 2010, 09:33:22 PM
my vote goes to bryan81
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Koshtrik vs AtlFlatCrew)
Post by: ondo on May 06, 2010, 09:47:14 PM
bryan81 wins Maxime Luchetti (3:2)
next battle:


Koshtrik
battle to global-flat.com (http://vimeo.com/10734175)

vs

AtlFlatCrew
Online Battle Round 1 (http://vimeo.com/11306406)
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Koshtrik vs AtlFlatCrew)
Post by: Ronny Engelmann @ Kassel on May 06, 2010, 09:52:49 PM
my vote goes to koshtrik
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Koshtrik vs AtlFlatCrew)
Post by: 2flat2furious on May 06, 2010, 10:49:46 PM
koshtrik for me too. Good stuff by the both of you though.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Koshtrik vs AtlFlatCrew)
Post by: That Joe Miller on May 07, 2010, 12:25:04 AM
My vote goes to ATLFlatcew, this was one of the most difficult decisions though. Great riding both guys.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Koshtrik vs AtlFlatCrew)
Post by: flaTTech on May 07, 2010, 12:33:28 AM
Hey guys, what's up?? this is a friendly forum, not for having problems with each rider that we dismissed.
If you want to fight, I invite everyone for take some time to battle in the fight club, but here we only need to support to all the competitors and don't criticism their rutines or if they're win or lose, please, expend your time riding and getting better or if you don't like watch tv, listen music or hang out with your friends, but don't waste your time doing st**id things in the forum, specially in the battler thread cause no one wants to read a lot of bullsh*** in this competition, is somebody is angry with another rider, let him know via pm or msn or the way what you want, but not here please.
so this is for everyone who wants to hanging here and writing st***id stuff



thanks
Francisco



Agree, I deleted my post about the subject..  And for the record I don't have a problem with anyone!
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Koshtrik vs AtlFlatCrew)
Post by: franciscofromperu on May 07, 2010, 02:37:00 AM
My vote goes to AtlFlatCrew, good combinations, good stuff, and the barflips and hitch spin are damn good, good job for koshtrick, really nice stuff for you.
good luck for you guys.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Koshtrik vs AtlFlatCrew)
Post by: b_ron on May 07, 2010, 02:50:47 AM
ah like both

cant decide on this one
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Koshtrik vs AtlFlatCrew)
Post by: HUCK on May 07, 2010, 04:54:36 AM
Hey guys, what's up?? this is a friendly forum, not for having problems with each rider that we dismissed.
If you want to fight, I invite everyone for take some time to battle in the fight club, but here we only need to support to all the competitors and don't criticism their rutines or if they're win or lose, please, expend your time riding and getting better or if you don't like watch tv, listen music or hang out with your friends, but don't waste your time doing st**id things in the forum, specially in the battler thread cause no one wants to read a lot of bullsh*** in this competition, is somebody is angry with another rider, let him know via pm or msn or the way what you want, but not here please.
so this is for everyone who wants to hanging here and writing st***id stuff



thanks
Francisco



Agree, I deleted my post about the subject..  And for the record I don't have a problem with anyone!

Hey flaTTech, sorry bro, I didn't intend for any of this to be a personal attack on you. You rode really good and deserved to win. I was merely trying to point out another personal attack on me by TJ. Or better yet, just a bad choice of words on his part. An un-biased judge would never have said another rider was decimated. Personal opinions like that shouldn't be tolerated. Thats my point I was trying to make. But since TJ has this ongoing agenda to bash me I shouldn't be surprised. Later, Huck
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Koshtrik vs AtlFlatCrew)
Post by: 2flat2furious on May 07, 2010, 06:07:52 AM
But since TJ has this ongoing agenda to bash me I shouldn't be surprised. Later, Huck

I really don't actually.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Koshtrik vs AtlFlatCrew)
Post by: HUCK on May 07, 2010, 06:11:17 AM
But since TJ has this ongoing agenda to bash me I shouldn't be surprised. Later, Huck

I really don't actually.

That's good to know.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Koshtrik vs AtlFlatCrew)
Post by: Iriez on May 07, 2010, 07:14:17 AM
Ok.

Huck, TJ, Zoffy, stankypus (sorry dont know how to spell it LOL), its group hug time :beginner:

Difficult call.....but I liked flatcrew's sesh better.

Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Koshtrik vs AtlFlatCrew)
Post by: ondo on May 07, 2010, 08:32:48 AM
my vote goes to AtlFlatCrew

hard decision, had to watch both videos like 3 times
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (MICHELE vs Theory)
Post by: ondo on May 07, 2010, 08:37:32 AM
tlFlatCrew wins Koshtrik (3:2)
next battle:


MICHELE
global-flat battle (http://vimeo.com/10618488)

vs

Theory
Online Battle Round 3 - Mark Kuhlmann (http://vimeo.com/10646961)
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (MICHELE vs Theory)
Post by: 2flat2furious on May 07, 2010, 08:51:59 AM
Theory gets my vote. Hang 5 to halfpacker whip x hiker and pivot out is sick!

Man that was almost a perfectly even matched battle though. Great riding from both of you.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (MICHELE vs Theory)
Post by: Ronny Engelmann @ Kassel on May 07, 2010, 09:17:25 AM
my vote goes to theory

as tj said before this link helped him to win
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (MICHELE vs Theory)
Post by: b_ron on May 07, 2010, 11:36:01 AM
jack johnson  :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (MICHELE vs Theory)
Post by: That Joe Miller on May 07, 2010, 01:39:38 PM
My vote goes to Theory by the slightest of margins. Both guys runs gave me that James White type of feel. Awesome riding guys.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (MICHELE vs Theory)
Post by: Ginman on May 07, 2010, 01:44:45 PM
X-footed stuff VS whopper...
DENG!! my heads' gonna BLOW!!! very good skills!!
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (MICHELE vs Theory)
Post by: 2flat2furious on May 07, 2010, 05:46:13 PM
jack johnson  :beer:

this almost made me vote for the other guy. UGH.  :angry:




jokes
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (MICHELE vs Theory)
Post by: franciscofromperu on May 07, 2010, 07:56:49 PM
My vote goes to theory, great battle for you guys, this time looks like a growed level in expert, congrats to everyone for his battle and we want to see the other round.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (MICHELE vs Theory)
Post by: animal1 on May 07, 2010, 07:57:42 PM

this almost made me vote for the other guy. UGH.  :angry:


Really though, I mute the videos before pressing play because I think it subconsciously sways my vote.  A lot of you guys listen to bad music  :wub:

I voted for theory.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (MICHELE vs Theory)
Post by: Theory on May 07, 2010, 09:19:34 PM
I woke up this morning and saw my name was called up and got really nervous. I'm not used to filming/judging like this. I than watched Michelle's video and immediately thought "man this guy is good!". Awesome riding Michelle!

Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (MICHELE vs Theory)
Post by: MICHELE on May 07, 2010, 10:08:31 PM
thanks.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (MICHELE vs Theory)
Post by: ondo on May 07, 2010, 10:25:06 PM
my vote goes to theory


Really though, I mute the videos before pressing play because I think it subconsciously sways my vote.  A lot of you guys listen to bad music  :wub:

I voted for theory.

I agree on that subconcious mind. i was thinking about the no music rule, but I thought, that it would be just better if we had just cool videos with music..
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (MICHELE vs Theory)
Post by: ondo on May 07, 2010, 11:43:39 PM
Theory wins MICHELE (5:0)
first quarterfinal battle:

Ginman

vs

flaTTech

You have 4 days!
Video limit is 1min 10sec!


since we have just 12 riders here, then after the qualification, the quarterfinals(semifinals) start. After these only 3 riders proceed and meet in a 3 person battle at the final.

Attention- the time limit is 1min 10 sec like as it would be for a quarterfinal not a semifinal.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: flaTTech on May 08, 2010, 11:33:11 PM
I’m up already,  wow this round is going really fast, sending in first vid in advance and the new judging process making it fly! Just watched Ginman’s first battle to kinda size up the competition..  Awesome riding, spinning like a tornado!  This may be the last vid I have to do for this round…   :P

Everyone riding really well!



It’s all good Huck, I really didn’t take it personal, and believe me I really don’t have a problem with anyone, including you..  I’m sorry about posting something that included you and then deleting it, not cool, but deleting it was for the best..  I’ll send you a PM about the concept of the post.  I stayed out of the whole Trevor VS. Uchie thread, and was upset that our video battles were being used in comparison, to justify controversial contest results..  This topic doesn’t belong in these battles..  I doubt TJ really has an actual agenda to bash you, his words were a little harsh though..  You may possibly think I had an agenda to bash you if you got to read my post before I deleted it,  but I can promise that I do not..  One things for certain, I did not down your riding, as I said before I thought your riding was great and especially liked your first link..   Keep it up Huck! :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: Ginman on May 09, 2010, 05:20:11 AM
same here flattech! ;D
i know u have a lot of hidden stuff still waiting to show.. ;D
cheers!  :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: Iriez on May 09, 2010, 12:45:38 PM
Holy eff what a close battle.

Seriously...Of all the sh*t i saw, i MUST say.....

I was completely intrigued by your neighbor mowing his lawn and I didnt watch a single link from theory.

But i'll give it to you : P
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: Theory on May 09, 2010, 02:17:02 PM
Holy eff what a close battle.

Seriously...Of all the sh*t i saw, i MUST say.....

I was completely intrigued by your neighbor mowing his lawn and I didnt watch a single link from theory.

But i'll give it to you : P

I was wondering if someone would notice that! None of my immediate neighbors seem to show any interest in the riding. They are however polite enough about it and have even moved their cars out of the way (I'm sure it was to protect th cars more so than move them out o the way for my riding...)
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: ondo on May 11, 2010, 07:45:45 AM
next battle:

Ginman
Chino RUN 2 (http://vimeo.com/11618700)

vs

flaTTech

Untitled (http://vimeo.com/11634923)
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: Iriez on May 11, 2010, 08:05:25 AM
OoOooOOOoO!!

Holy hell crazy battles : ) I will give the edge to flattech because he showed a comparable amount of backwheel skill with much less foot/scuff control. I think it makes for a more difficult stabilization. Add in the fact he used pretty lights and libra has decided :P
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: ondo on May 11, 2010, 08:21:14 AM
my vote goes to flaTTech

lot of variety, difficulty, good backwheel control, one large combo and that last link was the bomb.

ginman, great run too, few links I need to learn from you :D the pivots and scuffing was a bit too much, althought it showed some consistency.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: 2flat2furious on May 11, 2010, 09:23:02 AM
Man, I think this is the toughest battle I've had to judge yet.

I have to go with flattech not because of difficulty or variety, but because of originality. The last link is what sealed the deal for me.

Gin, you have those stubbleducks on lockdown and your style is on point. Props to both of you.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: kbong on May 11, 2010, 12:59:13 PM
MY VOTE GOES TO GINMAN

flatteach has no advanced spinning trix and has no hard switches except the decade"....
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: kbong on May 11, 2010, 01:01:59 PM
my vote goes to ginman

flatteach has no advanced spinning trix and has no hard switches except the decade"....
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: 2flat2furious on May 11, 2010, 05:29:46 PM
MY VOTE GOES TO GINMAN

flatteach has no advanced spinning trix and has no hard switches except the decade"....

Spinning tricks are not hard at all. Controlled rolling is more difficult than spinning in almost any trick I can think of.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: franciscofromperu on May 11, 2010, 07:42:42 PM
Wow, these battle is really great, you guys showed all your skills, and very nice combos, but I give my vote to ginman, great riding, and the fluid of his middle combo was great, flattech show a lot of rolling control and good switches.
props to you guys and good job
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: Ginman on May 12, 2010, 05:00:37 AM
thank you franciscofromperu  :beer: :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: oldairport on May 12, 2010, 05:38:01 AM
both of them got really sick combos.. flattech is more on smooth style consistent also but ginman rocks also.. the spins.. like a whirlpool..

im more on speed than smoothie style.

my vote goes to ginman.. cheers! time to drink 3 kegs of beer.   ;D :beer: :beer: :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: Flatgod on May 12, 2010, 06:00:11 AM
MY VOTE GOES TO GINMAN

flatteach has no advanced spinning trix and has no hard switches except the decade"....

Spinning tricks are not hard at all. Controlled rolling is more difficult than spinning in almost any trick I can think of.

Agreed. Most people don't seem to realize this. They must just think "Hey lookie, he spins faster so he must be better!" - so wrong.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: ondo on May 12, 2010, 12:07:56 PM
hey, judges. vote.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: Theory on May 12, 2010, 12:23:32 PM
Ondo,

Maybe you can edit the title to read "voting active" once the videos are submitted? That way the judges can see that they need to vote.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: Ronny Engelmann @ Kassel on May 12, 2010, 01:08:01 PM
my vote goes to flattech
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: Ginman on May 12, 2010, 02:39:00 PM
great battle flattech  ;D
i managed to learn some links within the OB but wasn't ripe yet to show..
thanks for the motivation...
super smooth run man, suuper smooth... keep it up  -_-

and now for some beery saturday nights... cheers! ;D :beer: :beer: :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: That Joe Miller on May 12, 2010, 03:41:53 PM
My vote goes to flattech, great riding from both guys.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Ginman vs flaTTech)
Post by: ondo on May 12, 2010, 05:24:01 PM
ginman awesome runs anyway, would like to see more of you. crankless, bro heh
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (pine vs bryan81)
Post by: ondo on May 12, 2010, 05:26:36 PM


flaTTech wins Ginman (4:1)
next battle:

pine

vs

bryan81

You have 4 days to send the videos in!
Run limit is 1min 10sec
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (pine vs bryan81)
Post by: flaTTech on May 13, 2010, 02:08:20 AM
great battle flattech  ;D
i managed to learn some links within the OB but wasn't ripe yet to show..
thanks for the motivation...
super smooth run man, suuper smooth... keep it up  -_-

and now for some beery saturday nights... cheers! ;D :beer: :beer: :beer:


 I agree Ginman, really great battle !  Glad these battles are motivating you and many others to push for some progression in their riding..  I know it motivates me, gets me on missions to get harder more creative links done and on video..

 Thanks for the props, and I have to say your run was amazing!  So much good stuff, and those very difficult pivots..  We both won this battle if our mission was to get some really good runs in, and make it very difficult for the judges!


Cheers Ginman  :beer: :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (pine vs bryan81)
Post by: Theory on May 16, 2010, 07:18:16 PM
4 Days are almost up, can't wait to see!
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (pine vs bryan81)
Post by: Ginman on May 18, 2010, 12:09:07 PM
WE WANT THE NEXT BATTLE!! :wacko:
WE WANT THE NEXT BATTLE!! :wacko:
WEEEEeeeeeeeEEEEEeeeeEE!!! :wacko:
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory)
Post by: ondo on May 18, 2010, 03:04:57 PM
bryan81 wins pine(5:0) uncontested
his run
Untitled (http://www.vimeo.com/11777830)
next battle:

AtlFlatCrew

vs

Theory

You have 4 days to send the videos in!
Run limit is 1min 10sec
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory)
Post by: Iriez on May 18, 2010, 11:39:40 PM
Ahhh!!! I been going nuts wanting to see another battle and bryan gets the easy win!! argggg!!!! :P

I kinda like that song.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory)
Post by: animal1 on May 19, 2010, 05:01:37 AM
My thoughts exactly Iriez.  My thoughts exactly....  :huh:
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory)
Post by: b_ron on May 19, 2010, 05:05:03 AM
i dont like these uncontested wins
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory)
Post by: pine on May 19, 2010, 05:22:44 AM
gasp is it to late for me i was away from global-flat for a long long time now..... my computer was messing up    ????????  i'm sorrrryyyy!!!!!  dam
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory)
Post by: That Joe Miller on May 19, 2010, 05:40:17 AM
i dont like these uncontested wins

Me either! that's one aspect that needs investigated.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory)
Post by: Iriez on May 19, 2010, 09:23:16 PM
gasp is it to late for me i was away from global-flat for a long long time now..... my computer was messing up    ????????  i'm sorrrryyyy!!!!!  dam

Part of being in the contest is commitment and respect for the other rider. He is taking alot of his personal time to film expecting the other rider is doing the same. For someone in this day and age to say they could not find a computer to log into to post "hey my pc is broke is it alright if I'm a day late?" Is entirely unacceptable and disrespectful to every participant.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory)
Post by: 2flat2furious on May 20, 2010, 02:22:56 AM
Everyone should just battle videos ready to go. Film as much as possible, get your sh*t in order, and then post them all to Ondo so you can do rapid fire battling.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory)
Post by: Ultraman Zoffy on May 20, 2010, 03:11:00 AM
Everyone should just battle videos ready to go. Film as much as possible, get your sh*t in order, and then post them all to Ondo so you can do rapid fire battling.

This is what I've been doing mostly because I only get in one session a week if I'm lucky; film in advance or knock out a planned link when ever you have some free time and just put the clip together with the accumulated footy if you move on. And if you don't, f*ck it, post it up in the media section because we'd all love to see it anyways..
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory)
Post by: bryan81 on May 20, 2010, 05:23:03 AM
gasp is it to late for me i was away from global-flat for a long long time now..... my computer was messing up    ????????  i'm sorrrryyyy!!!!!  dam

Part of being in the contest is commitment and respect for the other rider. He is taking alot of his personal time to film expecting the other rider is doing the same. For someone in this day and age to say they could not find a computer to log into to post "hey my pc is broke is it alright if I'm a day late?" Is entirely unacceptable and disrespectful to every participant.

your right dude, im a full time day worker and i can ride only at night, i am so excited when i saw my name to be battle with pine that has so many hard combos and i think that he's better than me, and that keeps me motivated.. im so disappointed when i saw the result.. i hope this will not happen again on the battles to come..
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory)
Post by: Iriez on May 20, 2010, 06:25:35 AM
gasp is it to late for me i was away from global-flat for a long long time now..... my computer was messing up    ????????  i'm sorrrryyyy!!!!!  dam

Part of being in the contest is commitment and respect for the other rider. He is taking alot of his personal time to film expecting the other rider is doing the same. For someone in this day and age to say they could not find a computer to log into to post "hey my pc is broke is it alright if I'm a day late?" Is entirely unacceptable and disrespectful to every participant.

your right dude, im a full time day worker and i can ride only at night, i am so excited when i saw my name to be battle with pine that has so many hard combos and i think that he's better than me, and that keeps me motivated.. im so disappointed when i saw the result.. i hope this will not happen again on the battles to come..


I propose that users who do not contribute their entry be violently beat with wiffle bats and bannanas tied to strings that become bannana nunchucks.

Anyone want to buy me a flight ticket? I'll happily do the deed. Im rael good with nunchucks n stuff.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: ondo on May 20, 2010, 12:13:30 PM
bryan81 wins pine(5:0) uncontested
next battle:

AtlFlatCrew
global-flat battle round 2 (http://www.vimeo.com/11787805)

vs

Theory
Online Battle: Expert Video #2 (http://vimeo.com/11680324)
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: Iriez on May 20, 2010, 01:18:37 PM
Gonna vote for AtlFlatCrew, though your lash to half packer was mean Theory!

Alexis: Can you explain what you did at 58 seconds? I frankly cannot figure it out. It looks crazy cool regardless of what it is!! :)
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: Ronny Engelmann @ Kassel on May 20, 2010, 01:28:45 PM
my vote goes totheory
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: That Joe Miller on May 20, 2010, 02:50:46 PM
Have to go with ATL with this one. Mark, Lovin' the flow Bro!
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: 2flat2furious on May 20, 2010, 07:02:07 PM
Iriez and Joe, can you explain to me why you decided to vote for Alexis? While his run was good, his difficulty just wasn't up to par with theory's at all. The x footed hiker to halfpacker, then whip BEHIND the back to x hiker is serious serious difficulty.

my vote goes to theory btw.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: franciscofromperu on May 20, 2010, 08:09:02 PM
My vote goes to AtlFlatCrew, nice run for both of you.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: AtlFlatCrew on May 20, 2010, 08:17:03 PM
can you guys please stop voting for me.. i really don't want to win another battle i don't deserve to win and i really don't want to have to film more videos.. thank you.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: Ultraman Zoffy on May 20, 2010, 09:54:37 PM
Theory! The link with the "converted" halfpacker (an inside to outside carve) was sweet and the cross-footed action also ruled. Atl ripped it too, but Theory had some subtle stuff going on that was pretty tough when you think about it...
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: Iriez on May 20, 2010, 11:27:37 PM
can you guys please stop voting for me.. i really don't want to win another battle i don't deserve to win and i really don't want to have to film more videos.. thank you.

"Excuse me ladies....can you please stop throwing yourselves @ me? I'm really not that good looking and my d is really sore."
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: ivan-flaterOS on May 20, 2010, 11:32:58 PM
can you guys please stop voting for me.. i really don't want to win another battle i don't deserve to win and i really don't want to have to film more videos.. thank you.

"Excuse me ladies....can you please stop throwing yourselves @ me? I'm really not that good looking and my d is really sore."

Nice one ;D
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: Theory on May 21, 2010, 12:28:29 AM
Thanks guys for the kind words. I get anxious when my videos are up, it feels weird putting yourself out there for everyone to judge.

Alexis your killing it man! I hope we meet again at Dayton and than we'll see what happens there ;)
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: Iriez on May 21, 2010, 09:05:29 AM
Iriez and Joe, can you explain to me why you decided to vote for Alexis? While his run was good, his difficulty just wasn't up to par with theory's at all. The x footed hiker to halfpacker, then whip BEHIND the back to x hiker is serious serious difficulty.

my vote goes to theory btw.

The reason I voted for him is because I thought those were regular hitchikers, not xfooted. Seriously....theory really needs to improve upon his camera angles so I can tell whats going on. I totally didnt even catch that mix the first time. Its *definitely* much much much more difficult than anything alexis threw down. I summed it up as follows:

Alexis
steam hitch barflip
peg spins time mach
one handed steam turbines to boomerang
rear peg switch to crossfooted
steam barflip to cross, barflip invert back to reg, steam barflip nice rideout

Theory
long hitch to half boomerang rideout
long xfoot hitch to whip halfpacker, backwards hitch to xfoot hitch

Its not complete, but the small sum leans heavily towards theory when you take the last link into consideration.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: Moya-1 on May 21, 2010, 10:01:51 AM
I dont understand theory riding.
First combo jump from halfpaker seems to dificult.
Then xfoot hitchhiker n halpaker to xfoothitthiker that seems easy.

Good riding Atl but Theory is better i think
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: 2flat2furious on May 21, 2010, 10:07:27 AM
I already spoke with him about the camera angles. I think he's more than aware how unclear that video was since I spoke to him and I think it'll be taken care of later.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: Iriez on May 21, 2010, 10:29:22 AM
Then xfoot hitchhiker n halpaker to xfoothitthiker that seems easy.

Sweet. Then I think you should start doing more of those. Some tricks that are easy for some are very difficult for *most*. If thats something your naturally acclimated to, then by all means do alot of it...because its a *great* trickset.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: DaviD (dave0) on May 21, 2010, 02:03:22 PM
I go for Theory, while alexis' run was smooth and stylish, Theory's stuff are more technical
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: misterpola on May 21, 2010, 05:11:22 PM
Then xfoot hitchhiker n halpaker to xfoothitthiker that seems easy.

Sweet. Then I think you should start doing more of those. Some tricks that are easy for some are very difficult for *most*. If thats something your naturally acclimated to, then by all means do alot of it...because its a *great* trickset.
I think he meant that Theory makes it look easy. And he does  :P
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: ondo on May 22, 2010, 08:52:45 AM
sh*t, i have the last vote. I'll vote later today, don't have time now
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: ondo on May 23, 2010, 07:56:32 PM
my vote goes to theory

can you guys please stop voting for me.. i really don't want to win another battle i don't deserve to win and i really don't want to have to film more videos.. thank you.

-1
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (AtlFlatCrew vs Theory) voting active
Post by: AtlFlatCrew on May 23, 2010, 08:04:36 PM
my vote goes to theory

can you guys please stop voting for me.. i really don't want to win another battle i don't deserve to win and i really don't want to have to film more videos.. thank you.

-1

i just don't think i should have advanced this far already and i don't see how people are still voting for me when its obvious Mark's run is way beyond mine.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech vs bryan81) final battle
Post by: ondo on May 23, 2010, 08:11:05 PM
Theory wins AtlFlatCrew (3:2)

THE FINAL
3 riders in the final battle:

Theory
vs
flaTTech
vs
bryan81

You have 10 days!
Run limit is 1min 40sec


Guys, you have 10 days. I hope it's enough to fill the 1min 40sec (!) long final run with some dope sh*t!

Good luck guys!

Judges. Please suggest a voting system for judging a 3 rider battle. Two ideas:

1) Vote for 2 riders. The one who gets most, wins, 2nd most votes- second place ..

2) Each judge gives 3 points to the best rider, 2 points to the 2nd best, 1 point for the 3rd.

Suggestions welcome!
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech vs bryan81) final battle
Post by: Ultraman Zoffy on May 23, 2010, 08:23:39 PM
Three way throw down!! You guys all rip, and I wish you all the best of luck, but as a fan I gotta root for flaTTech, the dude who at any minute I'm expecting to pull off his hat, take off a wig, lose the glasses, and actually be Kevin Jones in disguise making a contest comeback. haha
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech vs bryan81) final battle
Post by: flaTTech on May 25, 2010, 03:46:57 AM
Three way throw down!! You guys all rip, and I wish you all the best of luck, but as a fan I gotta root for flaTTech, the dude who at any minute I'm expecting to pull off his hat, take off a wig, lose the glasses, and actually be Kevin Jones in disguise making a contest comeback. haha

LOL  ^_^   This made my day, what a great compliment!


Good luck to Theory and bryan81, I'm looking forward to seeing some more great riding from you guys in the expert finals!
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech vs bryan81) final battle
Post by: Theory on May 25, 2010, 12:38:05 PM
Good luck to Theory and bryan81, I'm looking forward to seeing some more great riding from you guys in the expert finals!

Not that you guys need it but good luck to you both as well!

I spent over 2 hours last night doing a marathon session on one combo and couldn't hit it before slicing some skin off my hand. I feel like I got hit by a truck today after 3 days of camping and than last nights session.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech vs bryan81) final battle
Post by: Iriez on May 25, 2010, 10:48:44 PM
Good luck to Theory and bryan81, I'm looking forward to seeing some more great riding from you guys in the expert finals!

Not that you guys need it but good luck to you both as well!

I spent over 2 hours last night doing a marathon session on one combo and couldn't hit it before slicing some skin off my hand. I feel like I got hit by a truck today after 3 days of camping and than last nights session.

I've had a few 5-6 hour 'one link' marathon in this comp so far. Most of them were FAIL.

I know what u mean about the truck. I feel that way almost daily.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech vs bryan81) final battle
Post by: Theory on May 31, 2010, 02:07:26 PM
Video submitted for now. I doubt I'll have any time to redo or edit any of it.

I want to give a heads up that some shots may not be as clear in this video. The reason a couple links may not be as clear as preferred is I am using a standard digital camera (not video camera). I bought a tripod which has helped with the angles however some of my links require me to start further away due to my longer straight rolling style.

I have to admit, this battle experience has been soemthing I haven't ever expereinced before. It really does push the riders to push themselves and progress. I need a couple weeks to rest up and get back in shape since I've jammed my right ankle and rolled my left ankle trying to film this stuff.

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech vs bryan81) final battle
Post by: Iriez on May 31, 2010, 10:14:50 PM
I started wearing a ankle brace because of this comp. Even then the right side of my front is so bruised on a constant basis that every step is beautiful misery.

I'm so grateful for the experience. I started a 6 pack goal when this comp started. I'm getting crazy in shape :)
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech vs bryan81) final battle
Post by: Havokflat on June 01, 2010, 05:38:49 PM
beautiful misery.

Nice
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech vs bryan81) final battle
Post by: flaTTech on June 01, 2010, 05:56:17 PM
 I woke up on Friday feeling like I got hit by a truck, and then I had to actually go drive a truck to take a commercial drivers liscense test.. Had to do this because my job requirements had been changed.. This is in addition to all of our other resposibilities, in electronics and communications.. More work with less.. Oh yeah, I passed.  :mellow:  Maybe I should change my name to flaTTruck.. ha!

 Yeah, I know what you guys mean about the marathon sessions for hours, I've had some stuff I really wanted to get done without any luck yet.  These battles really do help people push for progression and new tricks and combos..

 Sorry to hear about the ankle injuries.  I'm bruised up and sore, but nothing to bad..
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech vs bryan81) final battle
Post by: ondo on June 03, 2010, 07:01:11 PM
bryan asked for one extra day, but he will be a bit late. Others can re-edit their videos and send in if they like.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech vs bryan81) final battle
Post by: Theory on June 04, 2010, 03:53:00 PM
Is there a new due date?

Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech vs bryan81) final battle
Post by: ondo on June 04, 2010, 04:01:27 PM
Is there a new due date?



till this evening. exactly 3 hours left from this moment.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech vs bryan81) final battle
Post by: Theory on June 04, 2010, 04:26:19 PM
Does that mean Bryan has submitted his video or he has 3 hours left to submit?
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech vs bryan81) final battle
Post by: ondo on June 04, 2010, 04:39:41 PM
Does that mean Bryan has submitted his video or he has 3 hours left to submit?

he has 3 hours to submit.. everyone having different problems uh..
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech vs bryan81) final battle
Post by: Theory on June 04, 2010, 04:57:21 PM
No problems for me. I was just curious on the status of the battle.

It's poured rain here the past couple of days so I couldn't re-film anything and edit my video if I wanted to.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech) voting active
Post by: ondo on June 04, 2010, 08:18:24 PM
THE FINAL BATTLE

Theory
Final Battle (http://vimeo.com/11913009)

vs

flaTTech
Untitled (http://vimeo.com/12191369)
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech) voting active
Post by: ondo on June 04, 2010, 08:21:48 PM
bryan couldn't send his video in time, so bryan81 takes the 3rd place! congrats!

now, voting goes the same as always.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech) voting active
Post by: Ultraman Zoffy on June 04, 2010, 08:44:18 PM
What a battle! I'm at work so I shouldn't even be watching the clips, but f*ck it. lol  Theory's hiker combos were super smooth, and nailing the x-foot juggler was dope. I also really liked the cross footed ride in flip thing to steamroller... however, FlaTTech was really tech and nailed a lot of tough tricks in his run and I think he takes it for the title. Brakeless smith was looking good FlaTTech! Now off to the Master class with you! You're the man... ;D
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech) voting active
Post by: b_ron on June 04, 2010, 11:13:28 PM
wooaah, flattech  :beer:

tons of stuff going on there. good stuff
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech) voting active
Post by: 2flat2furious on June 05, 2010, 12:07:14 AM
Going to have to go with flattech. Theory's stuff was really f*cking hard (x footed hiker jugglers are no joke), but flattech was all over the bike. Flattech was lagging behind in difficulty slightly, but his variety edged him over.

Great battle guys, one of the best yet.
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech) voting active
Post by: ondo on June 05, 2010, 12:18:14 AM
great battle. the difficulty level was similar, but Jeff took it, because of variety, that adds the difficulty.

Mark had awesome links, the x footed juggler in a straight line - that is hard!

both showed a lot of new things, that's super.

my vote goes to flattech
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech) voting active
Post by: animal1 on June 05, 2010, 01:36:59 AM
Flattech fuggin kills it!
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech) voting active
Post by: Iriez on June 05, 2010, 02:03:13 AM
omggggg flattech you murdered that backwheel link! I was like 'whens it gonna stop' and then you switch foots? Wtfff??? Goddamn your good man :) Watching you ride makes me think of me...we use alot of similar tricks/variations for our links, except you do them much much better than me :P

I also think that recently finding dubstep is one of the main reasons for my progression. Its pumped up vibe has allowed me to ride at the very least a hour or two longer each day, and enjoy my riding.

+99 for BROSTEP.

Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech) voting active
Post by: franciscofromperu on June 05, 2010, 04:08:01 PM
My vote goes for flattech, theory, really good run, nice combinations in the front wheel, I love how you enter to steamroller wih the switch foot, but flattech shows a lot of effort with tricks in the front and backwheel. congrats guys.

Francisco
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech) voting active
Post by: Theory on June 05, 2010, 04:13:12 PM
Congrats on the Win flaTTech, that backwheel really put the nail in my coffin!
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech) voting active
Post by: Ronny Engelmann @ Kassel on June 06, 2010, 11:04:46 AM
my vote goes to flattech

Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech) voting active
Post by: flaTTech on June 07, 2010, 01:08:03 AM
 Thanks for all of the nice comments!  I learned alot of stuff for this last battle,  including the brakeless smith, from the pedals switch whiplash back to the pedals, switchfoot icecream to stick b, opposite whiplash to hangfive, the 360 on the pegs to peg wheelie, and just the way I combined some stuff..   

 Theory, your run was great!  Very difficult tricks,  I really like that ending link..  I watch your riding and can think of some super long crazy hard combos you could put together with the tricks in that vid!  I'm guessing that is what you were trying in those super long sessions that made you feel like you got hit by a truck! 

  I can't believe how fast this round went compared to the 2nd round.  Thanks ondo for organizing these things, to all the judges that have to make the tough decisions, to the sponsors, and most importantly to ALL the riders in every class for pushing there limits trying new things and sharing their vids with the world!

 It was an honor to battle Huck, Ginman, and Theory.  Thanks guys !  :beer:  It gave me some good motivation..

 I'm off to the Masters !   :mellow:
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech) voting active
Post by: Theory on June 07, 2010, 01:34:37 AM
Theory, your run was great!  Very difficult tricks,  I really like that ending link..  I watch your riding and can think of some super long crazy hard combos you could put together with the tricks in that vid!  I'm guessing that is what you were trying in those super long sessions that made you feel like you got hit by a truck! 


I know what you mean. Once I am more skilled I plan on combining a lot of the tricks I learned into some better combo's, they will flow together very nicely!

I can honestly say that about 90% of the landed combo's you guys saw in my videos were the first times that I had ever landed those combo's/links. Due to the way the battles were run I found I had to come up with a new link and try and hit that and than move on to the next one before I could truly expand on what I learned.

Now I have the whole summer to put some really fun stuff together ;)

Thanks for all the opinions guys. I actually learned what I should and shouldn't be doing in terms of riding to make it better.

I'm not sure if I'll battle or not again but we'll see what time brings!

It was a pleasure flaTTech, enjoy the Master's!
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech) voting active
Post by: Ultraman Zoffy on June 07, 2010, 01:42:16 AM
FlaTTech, I mean, Mr. Jones, you can remove your hat, glasses, wig, and fake 'stache now. The jig is up...  ;D
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech) voting active
Post by: flaTTech on June 07, 2010, 02:09:41 AM
 Yeah Theory, it looks to me like you have a plan with your riding.  I keep seeing that awesome halfpacker to Xfooted Hiker and then directly going into jugglers etc.  Just to let you know I wasn't saying anything negative about what you did submit.  Infact I think that some of your switches and links were more difficult then some of mine. 


 Zoffy, I promise if I win masters I will remove the disguise and reveal my real identity  ;D

 
 Honestly, I don't expect to do so well in masters..  :P
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech) voting active
Post by: Theory on June 07, 2010, 02:33:42 AM
Yeah Theory, it looks to me like you have a plan with your riding.  I keep seeing that awesome halfpacker to Xfooted Hiker and then directly going into jugglers etc.  Just to let you know I wasn't saying anything negative about what you did submit.  Infact I think that some of your switches and links were more difficult then some of mine. 


That's exactly the direction I want to take it. As you've seen I have a few links out of the the x-footed hiker which bring me back into a half packers, then I want to repeat the whole backpacker to x-footed hiker process, sort of like a x-footed hiker "around the world" style :)... One Day...
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech) voting active
Post by: flaTTech on June 07, 2010, 02:52:48 AM
 Exactly what I was thinking, I just went with etc. because I didn't want to let your whole plan out of the bag.  lol  Don't forget to juggle that X-footed hiker before that great switch foot steam switch into halfpacker (I really like that one!)  Keep having fun, and you will get your dream links!  I think I need a better plan of tricks to focus on, I end up going in to many different directions..  HaHa

 Anyways, I hope to see tons more great stuff from you on vid or maybe some time in person.  :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech) voting active
Post by: Theory on June 07, 2010, 02:55:05 AM
Anyways, I hope to see tons more great stuff from you on vid or maybe some time in person.  :beer:


Same to you, cheers  :beer: !
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group (Theory vs flaTTech) voting active
Post by: That Joe Miller on June 07, 2010, 09:00:29 PM
I vote flaTTech, solely based on variety. Mark, your tricks were a little harder, but like TJ said flaT was all over the bike. Great job, both of you. Mark, that beer's waiting!
Title: Re: ROUND3 battle: EXPERT group OVER Winner- flaTTech
Post by: ondo on June 08, 2010, 09:58:15 AM
flaTTech 1st place

Theory 2nd place

bryan81 3rd place

CONGRATS!


Prize list soon!

Really awesome battles, I wish I stayed in experts hah :D