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English => Flatland Media => Online Video Battles => Topic started by: ondo on April 28, 2010, 11:35:41 PM
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Intermediate: 16 riders
Iriez 1st place
Ultraman Zoffy 2nd place
jm 3rd place
Kevin@Kassel
raddad67 (Mark)
Ten
bese
Denny @ Göttingen
Quarterfinal results:
Ten vs jm
Ultraman Zoffy vs bese
Iriez vs Denny @ Göttingen
raddad67 (Mark) vs Kevin@Kassel
stopkaiross
ANDREWBMXFLATLAND4LIFE
VojtaB
Wouter van der Linde
Lurtz uruk
flatargento
flat kiwi uk
Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW)
Qualification results:
stopkaiross vs jm
Ten vs ANDREWBMXFLATLAND4LIFE
bese vs VojtaB
Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW) vs Ultraman Zoffy
flat kiwi uk vs Iriez
Denny @ Göttingen vs Wouter van der Linde
flatargento vs Kevin@Kassel
raddad67 (Mark) Lurtz uruk
Intermediate Judges
-That Joe Miller
-2flat2furious
-Ronny @ Kassel
-Ginman
-ondo
Some basic rules:
1)I announce the first battle between 2 riders. From the moment there is a 4 day limit for those two riders to film and send the video links via PM to me! This rule is just for fairness, it's nothing if you post it in the battle thread. When both riders have sent me links- I post them in the first and the last post of their group!
2)The video can be edited or unedited, but must be maximum 50 seconds long. When the first battle series in each group are over(8 battles), then the next round adds +20 seconds. So the lenght in series are:
- First 8 battles= 50 sec
- Quarterfinals= 1 min 10sec
- Semifinals= 1 min 30 sec
- Finals= 1min 50 sec
This is the maximum of video lenght- you don't have to fill it up compulsory.
3)The run can consist of combos or just tricks, but if edited, they should be with ride ins and outs.
4)For each battle your run must be different.
5)It is forbidden to use old, filmed videos before the competition.
New rules about the video lenght.
1)A subjective point, but I can "allow" the rider to finish his combo and do the ride out if it goes just <10 seconds more.
2)So then there is a question, which combo can be longer?
- The combo which starts not later than 20 seconds before the end of the run.
3) It is hard to tell, if the run is too long, because, it can really contain small tricks in the beggining and the long one combo is pressed in the end, to gain extra time. That will be not allowed too.
For example: If you got two combos: 26 and 32 seconds long. If you put them together in that order, then you get 58 sec and the combo did start 20 sec before the end(as mentioned before), but the main rule wich corrects it all: If your run is over time limit, it is allowed only then, IF THE LONGEST COMBO IS IN THE BEGINNING!
I'll check every video and I'll be critical about the use of extra time!
4)If the video contains title(something meaningful), the video can be longer as the title lenght
5) If the rider can pull a combo for all his given time in run, my judgement on the time allowed will be subjective and slightly positive on allowing using the extra time.
So what is the solution?
- First off, if some rules are disobeyed, I'll ask to correctly repost the video(if only the 4 day period is still active). If not, the rider can be disqualified.
- There is another solution. If you don't want to repost the video, you can still proceed with the battle, but if you surpass the time limit unpermitted, then the judges will take this seriously considering voting.
6)After both rider videos are posted or the 4day period is over- the judges watch the videos and vote. They send their votes and explanations to me via PM.
7)As votes from judges are collected, the winner of the battle is announced.
8 ) The winner countinues to fight in the finals(if they are). The looser fails. (There could be some additional battles later)
9)The next battle starts after the previous battle ends.
10)One battle will happen in each class simultaneously
11)Some changes into limits or structure can occur.
12) The winners will recieve prizes
13) If you are busy, please let me know I can arrange your battles. The list of those who are busy is in the signing up thread![/b]
Sponsors: flatlandfuel diversionTV
I'll try to get some more sponsors. If you know someone who would like to sponsor this competition, contact me!
final battle:
Ultraman Zoffy
Global-Flat Final Battle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPj55KSs-iw#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
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Iriez
Global Flat Int Final Round 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5lZw_FSMhs#lq-lq2-hq-vhq-hd)
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THE INTERMEDIATE BATTLES ARE OPEN! :mellow:
First qualification battle:
raddad67 (Mark)
Global-Flat Online Battles Round 3 Intermediate Class (http://vimeo.com/10645942)
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Lurtz uruk
Lurtz Uruk Qualification (beginner) (http://vimeo.com/10636083)
The poll is gonna be open till judges make the decision.
Judges can send the vote to me or just post it here.
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It is public now....
Mark
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Another hard one
vote goes to raddad67 (Mark)
Lurtz uruk- very smooth, but combos Mark showed I rated higher.
Althought, all respect to lurtz uruk, he didn't even re-film his run.
& Marks colour matched hat and bars :D
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style battles as well!
Mark's video has the in your face attitude, overdubs, and thunderclaps vs. Lurtz w/ the crystal clear optics and goose bumpy Massive Attack track.
Front wheel vs Back
Black vs. White - Just Kidding@!!!
I think Mark had harder tricks and combos though Lurtz did ride really smooth and confident.
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Very very close battle.
Going to have to give it to Rad Dad this round. The difficulty between the two runs was very close together. Half lash to lardyard and stepping through to stick b is no joke, but neither are rad dads messiahs and cliffhanger combos.
In the end I think the variety of Rad Dad's tricks won the round, but if Lurtz had thrown in something outside of rear wheel scuffing with the same degree of difficulty I might have given it to him. Rad Dad just had a higher volume of tricks with greater variation.
As I said though, VERY close battle.
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I think Mark had better style, variety, and a higher degree of trick difficulty.
Both were awesome videos though!
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You know, Im gonna have to give this one to the water tower.
His progressive yet altruistic stance suggests that no matter who goes thirsty during their sessions, he will always be present to be the provider. His massive stickman-ish static stance is the heart of oldschool while trying to entertain the new.
Oh, and yea, mark gets the edge. After watertower.
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vote goes to raddad67 (Mark)
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it's so dificult to vote for one of them! :huh:
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rad dad,there not in two different classes,? said beginner on the other rider?
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rad dad,there not in two different classes,? said beginner on the other rider?
don't mind that text, it just left there, i had to move him up to intermediate
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This was indeed close. My vote goes to RadDad, for me it was the greater number of combos with a slight edge in difficulty. Great job, both guys!
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Sort of wondering why the beginner group has already gone through several battles and intermediate is still chilling on its first one? Not implying that my video is anything worth speeding the process up for (because it isn't =), but weather is getting really weird out here in Vegas if I need to film any further. Probably have to film in my garage again like in my first clip... =(
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Sort of wondering why the beginner group has already gone through several battles and intermediate is still chilling on its first one? Not implying that my video is anything worth speeding the process up for (because it isn't =), but weather is getting really weird out here in Vegas if I need to film any further. Probably have to film in my garage again like in my first clip... =(
I think it's because Ginman hasn't been on to vote yet for the intermediate. But for the beginners, apparently the judges have nothing else to do today but rate battles ;D
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My vote goes to RadDad..
RadDad: has advanced tricks linked from basic tricks.. (cliffhanger, no-handed hang10)
Lurtz Uruk: has only basic tricks linked together..
i think this could have been a closer one if Lurtz did more advances on the backwheel like coasting or no handers..
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And guys, i'm really really sorry for the delay.. Been to a family vacation..
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Hrm...changed the topic to include the new riders, but no vids?
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Hrm...changed the topic to include the new riders, but no vids?
Waitin for the video to go public.
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raddad67 (Mark) wins Lurtz uruk (5:0)
next battle:
flatargento
Julian (http://vimeo.com/11025394)
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Kevin@Kassel
Global-Flat battle 1 (http://vimeo.com/11175866)
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My vote goes to Kevin. Higher degree of difficulty for sure mainly in the first two links.
Good showing by flatargento though, good stuff!
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my vote goes to Kevin
dfifficulty, smoothness. doing things I can't do. ;)
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Kevin gets the win here, might have to move him up next time Ondo. Flatargento love your controll. Great runs from both!
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That was sick; both guys! Makes me wanna go ride even though its raining
different countries, different languages, different continents, but the same rain here.
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Very good riding from both of these guys. :mellow:
Kevin your riding is very impressive.
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I voted for the little kid with the trendy clothes. Oh wait.... -_-
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my vote goes to kevin
more difficulty
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Thanks alot for all the positive comments.
But I am wondering about one thing. How old are you Flatargento? :D
You seem very young to me and you are already riding so good and do a 360° thats really great!
I love your steamroller-style!
But, yeah...Different continents but tomorrow it shall be raining here in Germany too (Now it's 22 pm but not raining) . :( Seems like I have to ride in the underground garage again.
I voted for the little kid with the trendy clothes. Oh wait....
:rolleyes: ;D
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Wow! Nice video Kevin, good job!! The first link was great!
Voted for Kevin on the poll too, and thanks for the battles.... I'm 19 years old :P
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That was a fantastic battle!!!! Both of you rode super good...and you both have really elegant style!
Kevin gets the edge in my opinion : )
Way to bring the competition!! :) Now im gonna have to go ride and work on a better link!!!
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deng!!
the Front wheel make me SICK!! SICK!!SICK!! SICK!!ICK!! SICK!!ICK!! SICK!! :angry:
both runs are great!cool style..
but my vote goes to Kevin@Kassel -overall,he's got more difficult stuff..
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You guys are lookin' fancy!
Kevin, those first two links were silk. :beer:
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no doubt both riders look good in style maybe should even be in the next class,but i am puzzled at the results favored in the wrong direction,not to take away from kevin,but i would go withflatargento,i think he had more difficult tricks!
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Kevin@Kassel wins flatargento (5:0)
next battle:
Denny @ Göttingen
Denny Battle Video #1 (http://vimeo.com/11117951)
vs
Wouter van der Linde
Wouter van der Linde Global-flat.com Online Battle (http://vimeo.com/11145691)
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Duh...duh ...duh duh....DENNY....DENNNYY.....DENNNYYYYYYY AND THE JETTTTSSSSS.
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Vote goes to Denny for higher difficulty.
Wouter, you gotta move the camera closer too man it's very difficult to see what you're doing.
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Great Videos!
Denny is way more faster then Wouter but Wouter seems to have a little bit more bike-control.
My Vote would go to Denny. Mainly because of his speed and Kickflips!
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That was a Grand Slam with extra bacon, Denny!
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i vote for denny, that barflip was a good one..
wouter is kind of short for some stuff like that against denny..
but you both are really sick!!!i hate you front wheel trix!!! ;D
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That was a Grand Slam with extra bacon, Denny!
So bad. I specifically did not do a denny's pun because it was too obvious :P Hence the elton instead.
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I wanted to one up you, but thats all I could think of ^_^
I don't know how you got Betty from Denny though ahah
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Denny's clip was great, and he's an obvious winner in this battle, but I have to say that his clip would've been good enough to smoke Bryan Huffman's Jomopro expert run I just watched on Vimeo. Just wondering if Wouter got a fair shake in this matchup? Not trying to start any static and DEFINITELY not trying to weed out good competition, but Denny's speed and control just didn't scream intermediate to me. It was like watching Wouter go up against Isiah Jordan or something... :huh:
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Denny's clip was great, and he's an obvious winner in this battle, but I have to say that his clip would've been good enough to smoke Bryan Huffman's Jomopro expert run I just watched on Vimeo. Just wondering if Wouter got a fair shake in this matchup? Not trying to start any static and DEFINITELY not trying to weed out good competition, but Denny's speed and control just didn't scream intermediate to me. It was like watching Wouter go up against Isiah Jordan or something... :huh:
#code response to your comment of denny's non-intermediate status
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Speed !== skill
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animal: c'mon man. Sing it either in your head or outloud. Tell me you cant fool YOURSELF into thinking that bennie sounds exactly denny ...and ps its bennie not betty ...LOL
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Denny's clip was great, and he's an obvious winner in this battle, but I have to say that his clip would've been good enough to smoke Bryan Huffman's Jomopro expert run I just watched on Vimeo. Just wondering if Wouter got a fair shake in this matchup? Not trying to start any static and DEFINITELY not trying to weed out good competition, but Denny's speed and control just didn't scream intermediate to me. It was like watching Wouter go up against Isiah Jordan or something... :huh:
Yeah, I dissagree. He is doing fairly basic tricks, but what makes it look advanced is the style and speed. They are both doing the same "class" tricks, Denny is just doing the better.
@Iriez- Either way, It's not relevant to the videos except for that the names end in the same syllable.
However, grand slam not only covers his name, but is also a compliment to his run. Plus it includes bacon, which is an automatic win. :mellow:
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I have no idea what you are talking about... o.o
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wow i just got pwnd by a speed devil hehehe!
Nice Denny you got me!
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Denny's clip was great, and he's an obvious winner in this battle, but I have to say that his clip would've been good enough to smoke Bryan Huffman's Jomopro expert run I just watched on Vimeo. Just wondering if Wouter got a fair shake in this matchup? Not trying to start any static and DEFINITELY not trying to weed out good competition, but Denny's speed and control just didn't scream intermediate to me. It was like watching Wouter go up against Isiah Jordan or something... :huh:
I thought Denny's edit should have been bumped up myself.
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The Intermediate class is blowing my mind. Its slowly becoming what the old expert was. The level of riding is MUCH higher than it was previously. The Final Battle will be insane if we are only in preliminary rounds. Great videos by everyone!
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Yeah, it does not seem like Intermediate to me :D
I think especially the gap between some of the riders is to high but we have to get it out :D
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WOW! my video is like a frickin punchline compared to that...
amazing riding denny!
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I think the gap would make more sense to me if there was only 3 ranks instead of the 4 the online battles have...
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WOW! my video is like a frickin punchline compared to that...
amazing riding denny!
You're a really smooth rider from the clips I've seen of you, so I wouldn't worry. My saying in contests: "If you can't match the big guns, then pull out the weird guns." Don't look at other riders' runs and think "I can't do those tricks, so I won't be able to hang in this comp". Look at them and then think about the tools (tricks =) you DO have and what you can do with them to be different and bring something new to the contest. Create with your strengths; don't worry about trying to make your riding into something it's not to attempt to hang with the masses. Something different and new in the context of your riding class (intermediate) is just as potent as something just being "new school". This contest isn't all about who can come closest to pulling off a semblance of a Matthias run... ;D
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WOW! my video is like a frickin punchline compared to that...
amazing riding denny!
You're a really smooth rider from the clips I've seen of you, so I wouldn't worry. My saying in contests: "If you can't match the big guns, then pull out the weird guns." Don't look at other riders' runs and think "I can't do those tricks, so I won't be able to hang in this comp". Look at them and then think about the tools (tricks =) you DO have and what you can do with them to be different and bring something new to the contest. Create with your strengths; don't worry about trying to make your riding into something it's not to attempt to hang with the masses. Something different and new in the context of your riding class (intermediate) is just as potent as something just being "new school". This contest isn't all about who can come closest to pulling off a semblance of a Matthias run... ;D
re-reading what I wrote, it does come off a little emo...it was more supposed to be like a jaw dropping reaction and compliment at once (we need some tex avery smilies!). But yeah, I love these battles, It's definitely not about winning, but a reason to pull out the camera and aim for some consistency.
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I would also say that you do not have to worry, stopkaiross :)
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Denny.
And yes, he should have been bumped up to expert in my opinion...
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Denny.
And yes, he should have been bumped up to expert in my opinion...
I think the jugdes need to see all the videos that send in if they are signed up at the right level..
because there is just a to big gap between some riders..
and thats not because im loosing now, in beginner class are the same things happening!
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Denny.
And yes, he should have been bumped up to expert in my opinion...
I dont really think so. But, if that is the case, then I think i should be bumped up too? My style isnt as smooth, but technically more difficult.
I agree that the contenders are harder. But c'mon, have you guys been watching the begginers? Some of those kids are killing me with style and tricks! Expert is WAY too advanced for me and denny as we cannot bring the amount of technically difficult variations with solid transitional tricks and 'big trick' finishers.
I believe that is what seperates the classes. Begginers rarely link, or when they do link its with basics. Intermediates link with more difficult tricks, but we arnt mastering the transitions into even more difficult tricksets with (sometimes) bomb outro's.
Animal: Ok, I'll let it slide, you've well justified your comedic platform for my sensibilities ; )
Also, I feel that the rate of progression im currently at, Im a viable contender in this class. If by the end of this contest I should be placed in the upper class...well, then wasnt that the entire point? WINNAR! = progression.
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Denny.
And yes, he should have been bumped up to expert in my opinion...
I think the jugdes need to see all the videos that send in if they are signed up at the right level..
because there is just a to big gap between some riders..
and thats not because im loosing now, in beginner class are the same things happening!
It's going to happen in real contests too. Sometimes the hardest classes to judge are beginner and intermediate, because not everyone is quite on the same level. You can be "too good" and get bumped up so often times there is no real clear "winner". IF you are the winner, sometimes people say you're sandbagging and what not. Something to think about.
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You're a really smooth rider from the clips I've seen of you, so I wouldn't worry. My saying in contests: "If you can't match the big guns, then pull out the weird guns." Don't look at other riders' runs and think "I can't do those tricks, so I won't be able to hang in this comp". Look at them and then think about the tools (tricks =) you DO have and what you can do with them to be different and bring something new to the contest. Create with your strengths; don't worry about trying to make your riding into something it's not to attempt to hang with the masses. Something different and new in the context of your riding class (intermediate) is just as potent as something just being "new school". This contest isn't all about who can come closest to pulling off a semblance of a Matthias run... ;D
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well said sir :beer:
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yeah to be honest i think you should move up too Iriez, you are doing freaking x footed nose manual turbines and stuff!
Its crazy, and i like it alot, but not intermediate in my opinion!
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my vote goes to denny
more difficulty and longer combos.
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wow thats intermediate??
shooooot
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yeah to be honest i think you should move up too Iriez, you are doing freaking x footed nose manual turbines and stuff!
Its crazy, and i like it alot, but not intermediate in my opinion!
Maybe, but you ever watched me try steam rollers? Or half hikers? Or any backwheel? There are so many things that you guys are doing that blow me out of the water because I cant do it. Im not consistent. I cant 'balance' most of the tricks you see me do (like leo the brazillian does!) for very long. I watch my friends in the begginers section do things that I feel are personally *harder* than alot of what I do, even if they arnt linked in or out of techy things.
I just do what the other guy said and I bring out my wierd vs your style/speed. If i showed denny's vid vs my vid to anyone outside this forum, every single one would pick denny. Its all relevant.
Though If i link togeather what i've been trying, I believe that I could be bumped into expert. However, we are talking about things that have not happened yet, so doesnt that imply that I belong where I belong?
Also, of note:
Bradlandr74 wont intermediate last round with time machines, roparoni's, stickmans and a few other goodies.
Just about every single thing he did I can not. He won with technicality and difficulty, not style. So, what im saying is, while style has its own grade, its really only useful when you are comparing two riders doing the same trickset. Otherwise, its really worthless other than to be more enjoyable to watch (not judge.). I see mark doing a couple variations that are on the same level of technicality, along with a few others. I think benny's run was fantastic, but what did he do that deserves a bump? Crackpackers? I've seen atleast 8 consistent tricks by intermediates that equate to his crackpacker. Barflips? Same.
So, in short, I think he belongs right here : )
Though, we must all admit : There really is no way to answer this. We can only hope that the judges weigh their decisions rationally when determining whether a person should be bumped. There is always going to be a top and bottom of every bracket. And making less brackets (3 vs 4) will only serve to make those differences even more apparent.
Flatland is like any sport, with time comes faster progression. I see them kids doin crap way better than anyone ever could have when I was their age. This contest should follow that same pattern of progression. The begginers ARE going to get more competitive, aswell as the other classes as we all progress and define boundaries.
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I just do what the other guy said and I bring out my wierd vs your style/speed.
Though If i link togeather what i've been trying, I believe that I could be bumped into expert.
Bringing out the weird is how I managed to qualify higher then Nao Yoshida at a local contest in Yokohama bitd... the kid straight out rips, but I think the judges didn't know what to make of my tricks so they placed me in first after qualifiers.... haha
When I used to ride with Tsutomu Kitayama back then, he'd tell me that I belonged in expert at KOG contests, but I stayed in novice because I felt I didn't have the expert level of consistency I would've needed to stay competitive against the super fast young guys. I think that's the case with everyone; if someone rode perfectly and hit all their best stuff clean, they'd always seem to belong in the next class up. But hitting that stuff can some times be a 1 in 50 type thing that is just too hard to nail in a contest. However, since this is an online contest where everyone pulls everything "first" try on tape, some dudes need to just suck it up and move to the next bar. lol
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my vote goes to denny
and everyone who are talking about the skill levels and whatever, be just responsible for yourself, not the 1st place is the winner, the best progress is the prize. and yes, there will always be favourites in your class, which you would like to send up. Yes, I was thinking where to put denny, and choosed intermediates, I think I didn't go wrong with this one.
Come on, you have a clear goal, guys. Give your best to beat those favourites.
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Come on, you have a clear goal, guys. Give your best to beat those favourites.
That's it! And if something goes really wrong we have always the chance to make it better the next time (If there is one)
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Have to give my vote to Denny, but Man, both you guys are gettin' it! Keep it up Boys.
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Denny @ Göttingen wins Wouter van der Linde(5:0)
next battle:
flat kiwi uk
globalflat vid comp (http://vimeo.com/10730621)
vs
Iriez
GF Bat Round 3 (http://vimeo.com/11347621)
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This is hard. Hmm, flat kiwi- original cyclone, nice bw cliffhanger(bad that ride in isn't there,ride out really sketchy), and very cool bw jugglers.
Iriez- "nose manuals", original links, just the links seem too much similar- it's less dificulty.
Just by a tiny bit of dificulty..
my vote goes to Iriez
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Iriez gets my vote. Both guys were KILLIN' it! Flat kiwi's backwards cliff was SICK! Really could have gone either way, but degree of difficulty was my main deciding factor. Great Job guys!
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Iriez so smooth wow. nice nose manuals
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I love the way Iriez rides...cool tricks! You're progression is phenomenal. :beer:
Flat Kiwi has those backwards Jugglers dialed.
Very nice riding guys.
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Really great Nose wheelies, Iriez! and great switches also!
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Flatkiwi, nice jugglers, and Iriez, god you progress fast. Next year your in master class. ^_^
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thanks for props!
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my vote goes to iriez
good switches and front + rear tricks
like flat kiwi´s first boomerang trick :)
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deng!!
i could have vote for kiwi because BW hitchhikers are much difficult to learn(for me) becasue of the tricks that you should learn first to get it dialed (ride in and ride out)..
but his BW cliff hanger's entrance was questionable according to criteria..
i vote for Iriez... nice nose manuals, you're SICK!! ;D
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Iriez laid it down hard in that clip... he takes it this battle. Flat Kiwi had some nice stuff, but some of his stuff was kinda sketchy; the backward hikers were super clean, but the swivel stuff he was doing was a little too twitchy for me.
Just curious, but each session since I registered for this, I've been filming "stock footage" tricks to edit for the battles in advance because of my work schedule and the crazy Vegas wind/heat that is just around the corner. All different stuff of course, but I didn't know if this would be any sort of violation. I don't expect to make it out of the gate though ;D but I just never know when I'll have the time or opportunity to ride nowadays and I didn't want to hold things up in case I advance by needing to ask for extra time.
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yeee Iriez
xfooted nose manual gturns still blow me away
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Iriez laid it down hard in that clip... he takes it this battle. Flat Kiwi had some nice stuff, but some of his stuff was kinda sketchy; the backward hikers were super clean, but the swivel stuff he was doing was a little too twitchy for me.
Just curious, but each session since I registered for this, I've been filming "stock footage" tricks to edit for the battles in advance because of my work schedule and the crazy Vegas wind/heat that is just around the corner. All different stuff of course, but I didn't know if this would be any sort of violation. I don't expect to make it out of the gate though ;D but I just never know when I'll have the time or opportunity to ride nowadays and I didn't want to hold things up in case I advance by needing to ask for extra time.
That's no violation. It's only good if you film before and make things faster!
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With what's going down in the prelims, I'm kinda bummed I was forced to film in my garage for my clip because it was way too windy outside at the time... I think I handicapped myself. lol
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Iriez because god damn!
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Kiwi: Dude, you could have KILLED me had you just intro'd into SOMETHING, did those bw juggler's and linked out. Killed! Those bw jugglers IMO owned anything I did.
Then again, we all have our special trix right? :P (Yes, i know the video is repetitive...if I make it to the finals it wont be : )
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Iriez wins flat kiwi uk (5:0)
next battle:
Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW)
GlobalFlat (http://vimeo.com/10760734)
vs
Ultraman Zoffy
GF Round 3 Online Intermediate Prelim Battle edit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcB9uZvTD6Q#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
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Ultraman Zoffy just destroyed everything. High difficulty. Total win. My vote goes to him.
Kevin, good cliffhanger, could have done a turbine maybe or a bit spinning in the end. Your video has too much riding around, you have to save time!
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My vote goes to Ultraman Zoffy :rolleyes: :beer:
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My vote for Ultraman Zoffy, and I have to back up Ondo on this one, too much riding around Kevin, but your vid was still SICK!
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Ultraman zoffy got my vote...
indeed higher difficulty on the steam turbines..
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ZOFFY!
I love that first trick, hahah so good.
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My vote goes to Ultraman Zoffy :rolleyes: :beer:
Your riding is super smooth Kevin! The cliffhanger was butter... thank you for a nice battle. Thanks also for the compliments folks. I was worried about being stuck in the garage; it might not look like it, but those 2-inch expansion gaps running along the floor will straight kill you if you don't roll over them almost perpendicular. I love having a garage, but I hate those cracks with a passion (I cut out the part with me cursing and flipping off the cracks after they sucked me up out of the time machine =). I want to fill them in but apparently my house will fall down if I do. Or something like that.
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ZOFFY!
I love that first trick, hahah so good.
+1
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ZOFFY!
I love that first trick, hahah so good.
+1
I remember learning it after watching A Breed Apart bitd... but since I never heard a name for it, I took it upon myself to start calling it the "Pommel Whip" after, well, the pommel horse. Glad people dig it. I used to have variations from it (decades, etc.) but I took my back brake off to save the fingers on my right hand. Planning to footjam decade out of them once I actually learn those. ;D
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Zoffy gets my vote. That no footed tailwhip was awesome and had me laughing.
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my vote goes to ultraman zoffy
a lot of more tricks and a harder combo
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Great no footed tailwhip by Ultraman Zoffy, not an easy trick IMO, and would be awesome linked to a footjam decade like you are thinking! Entire run good stuff.. Everyone riding very good in the 3rd round!
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Ultraman Zoffy wins Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW) (5:0)
next battle:
bese
global flat video battles.BESE. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTYgiN9A0TY#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
vs
VojtaB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaqZkdHIdcI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaqZkdHIdcI)
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bese ftw.
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cant watch vojtaB´s video "sony entertaiment"...
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Bese gets my vote.
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Close, close battle... bese edges VojtaB out though with a few more tech things and small details going on during his tricks. Nice whiplash moves by VojtaB though, but there were lots of things he could've continued off of and extended that didn't happen. Nice showing guys.. :beer:
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Its great to see progression in all classes but the most of these riders are in the wrong classes why dont you just eliminate beginner and just have three large classes. b class is a joke its comprised of mostly intrmds. intermediates should compete in exp. I havent watched any master but that doesnt need comment. If there is going to be a b class there should be b class riders. Not I riders.
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cant watch vojtaB´s video "sony entertaiment"...
Same here. But Bese's Video was very nice
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my vote goes to Bese
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cant watch vojtaB´s video "sony entertaiment"...
you can't watch it at all?
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my vote goes to bese
really weak battle. close to beginner runs.
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Similiar styles, bese gets this one. More variations/higher degree of difficulty. Great job guys!
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my vote goes to bese
really weak battle. close to beginner runs.
Ondo you shouldn't said that sh*t about this battle, maybe for you is a weak battle but for these riders who are battleling for win, is a great battle¡¡¡ so please don't say anything like this is weak or not, this could desmotivate the riders¡¡¡ This is flatland¡¡¡ nothing weak¡¡¡nothing sad¡¡¡ everything is funny and great¡¡¡ :ph34r:
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my vote goes to bese
really weak battle. close to beginner runs.
Ondo you shouldn't said that sh*t about this battle, maybe for you is a weak battle but for these riders who are battleling for win, is a great battle¡¡¡ so please don't say anything like this is weak or not, this could desmotivate the riders¡¡¡ This is flatland¡¡¡ nothing weak¡¡¡nothing sad¡¡¡ everything is funny and great¡¡¡ :ph34r:
+1
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really weak battle. close to beginner runs.
will everyone please stop doing this?
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I'm having a hard time reading all of the attacks on people's skills on here... stating that maybe you feel someone is maybe in the wrong class is one thing, but calling out stuff as weak or laying into a person's style like Iriez did towards Alex is out of line given the informal fun vibe these online battles should be. These guys in every class are busting their ass to make these clips and contribute to this contest, but then someone comes along and craps on their efforts. Maybe Ondo could've worded his criticism better, and maybe Iriez should've entered the same class as Alex if he really felt he was at a superior level to him... all I know is, there's an extreme lack of tact in some of the stuff being said, and the criticism should really be kept constructive and positive. Bese and VojtaB, you guys got my respect for laying out your skills in public, and I'd be down to session with you boys anytime. Peace...
edit: Actually, Iriez said he dug Alex's style, so my bad on that... but to say you can learn someone's tricks in a matter of days and that they should be in a lower class is pretty rough commentary.
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edit: Actually, Iriez said he dug Alex's style, so my bad on that... but to say you can learn someone's tricks in a matter of days and that they should be in a lower class is pretty rough commentary.
ffs man it was a over exaggeration. How many times do I need to explain it? I edited the POS post. Drop it.
I f*cking wrote mad props for the guy so you would all understand that it was a misunderstanding. Yes, I felt him in the wrong class, but it was just a comparison gone wrong. I dont want to be a dick and critisize people's riding, thats whack.
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Alrighty then... back to the battles. :beer:
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really weak battle. close to beginner runs.
Oh man. Come on dude. Did you really just say that?
They're no where near beginner runs!
I've seen a bunch of comments like this from you in the previous battles too.
I think I'm gonna start makin fun of how you paint your legs black now.
Oh wait, what?! Those are pants???
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:beer: :beer: & :crash:
Then its :vodka: and :sleep: haha
Cheers, lets ride.
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I'm not reading these comments at all.
It's my judges criticism and it isn't disputable.
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bese wins VojtaB (5:0)
next battle:
Ten
Ten (http://vimeo.com/10764846)
vs
ANDREWBMXFLATLAND4LIFE
andrew parrish global-flat 3rd round online battle intermediate .wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYFkBCT1q84#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
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(a PM to TJ)
yea I know it was harsh, but I was somehow angry at myself how did I put them in intermediates at all.
I mean the next level of being positive here, is just to ignore comments like this. not start to attack back, I'm not reading that sh*t anymore.
so, it's best to keep those things for yourself, I failed doing that, so at least others could try not to react in such a way.
(aw, this is so sweet, need to post it there)
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Rolling style battle! Both smooth and good flow... Ten has a little more progression going on with the rolling style then Andrew right now, so he takes it. Ten, you have an awesome spot by the way; if that's your backyard spot, you're a lucky guy. ;D
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Great battle!
Ten has great smoothness(that halfpacker whip was fast and nice) and awesome spot :)
But I really respected andrews whole run combo, so my vote goes to ANDREWBMXFLATLAND4LIFE
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my vote goes to andrew
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one hell of a combo there andrew :beer:
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My vote goes to ten. I think the tricks he was doing were just plain more difficult.
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Andrew gets it, one combo with hiker,crackpacker, and halfpacker :mellow:
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My vote goes to Ten..
Andrew threw in one long combo..(nice!) :beer:
But Ten seemed to have more control over his bike, pumping, rolling, no-handed hang-10, whipping the frame, and turbine megaspin, that's just more difficult(for me).. :beer:
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My vote goes to Ten, man is smooth!
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ouu, damn 2:2 francisco gets the last vote
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is it hard to make these videos from your camera what software do peeps use and how do you put the music and words over it??
I use Sony Vegas 9 now. google for how to's
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my vote goes to bese
really weak battle. close to beginner runs.
close to beginner? this is exactly how intermediate level needs to be.. all those guys who do 100 steamroller turbines at 100 km/ph no thats intermediate..
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ouu, damn 2:2 francisco gets the last vote
let the crowd know francisco, so the last battle can start,
im hot for the next round (quarter finals)
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Really enjoyed this battle. Good luck to both of you.
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Thanks guys and great riding, andrew. :beer:
I have always wanted a homespot so I finally went for it when I started riding again. Saves $$$ on gas and tires. It's actually in the front yard, part of the driveway I claimed for myself. ^_^
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[edit for not derailing thread]
great runs. I would also give it ten but yeah, close goiod battle
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Closest battle so far for me. Ten gets the vote from me, but again, it was really close. Keep pushin' guys.
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Thanks guys and great riding, andrew. :beer:
I have always wanted a homespot so I finally went for it when I started riding again. Saves $$$ on gas and tires. It's actually in the front yard, part of the driveway I claimed for myself. ^_^
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thanks 4 the battle ten,good riding,just riding 4 myself with my old style riding,still having fun with it at 40 yrs old,i figure i try to enter this to keep me motovated,im never on global,just watch it mostly,peace out everybody
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is it hard to make these videos from your camera what software do peeps use and how do you put the music and words over it??
I use Sony Vegas 9 now. google for how to's
vegas :beer:
still using 7, only when i use my pc instead of my macbook
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My vote goes to ten, good stuff from the two competitors but the rollin style was nice.
good luck
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is it hard to make these videos from your camera what software do peeps use and how do you put the music and words over it??
I use Sony Vegas 9 now. google for how to's
vegas :beer:
still using 7, only when i use my pc instead of my macbook
Werd. I use vegas 9 aswell....easiest and most efficient video editing software out there. I've tried pretty much all of the major ones (adobe premier, final cut, etc etc).
Anyone needs software let me know. Im a pirate and I dont give a damn.
Though i got mad love for andrew's combo, I would have to give the edge to ten for the extra degree of difficulty. Man, if i was matched up with him i woulda got spanked! Nice half packers
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I keep it real with Windows Movie Maker! (Real wack, that is... =)
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Ten wins ANDREWBMXFLATLAND4LIFE (3:2)
next battle:
stopkaiross
stopkaiross Global-flat 3rd online battle: Intermediate Round 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F5CyFYlDLg#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
vs
jm
untitled (http://vimeo.com/11286833)
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Go Jim!
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my vote goes to jm
@jm can you send me the song via email?
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@Ronny, sure -_-
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Man this is insanely close, but I'm going to have to give it to Jm. His forward rolling stuff is a bit harder than the tricks that Kaiross is doing, but kaiross's one footed pedal manual held for that long was pretty f*cking tight.
So yeah, vote goes to Jm, by the skin of his teeth.
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I agree that this was close. My vote goes to Jm solely for the one-handed ridein switch steam to hiker. Great stuff!
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Another super nice rolling battle... you guys were so smooth I thought I was watching figure skating for a minute. lol j/k Link wise, both Kai and jm were doing about the same amount of tricks, but the slight nod goes to jm in terms of difficulty with the front wheel rolling lines he pulled. Good job fellas!
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My vote goes to jm, nice job for both of you guys.
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stopkaiross, you have the most interesting music choices
lovin the "talk to the hand" hang5
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YAY my battle happened!
Thanks everyone for the nice words! Jm's run was great and clearly deserved the win.
I love the battles!
stopkaiross, you have the most interesting music choices
I aim for smiles ;D
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I would have to go with Jims edit...tricks are harder and he linked them.
Stopkaiross...I love where you're riding is going...the pedal manual is the sh*t. I also love that you ride with some speed.
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Quarterfinals are shaping up to look really interesting... can't wait to see everyone's new clips! I'm hoping to film one or two last tricks this weekend, but I'm stuck doing a bunch of work related stuff all day Saturday and errands Sunday so not sure if I'll have time... :P
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stopkaiross' music sounded like the circus! deng.. ;D ;D ;D
nice pedal wheelie..
my vote goes got to Jm, longer and smoother rolling stuff...
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yeah thats what makes most other runs look pretty wack the creeping pace, sometimes you almost think they gonna come to a stop and fall over before the next trick it gets so slo....w :P
I don't think they look wack, just different. I've seen a riding buddy come to almost a complete stop during a Hang-Nothing...that takes some serious bike control to pull off.
I'm just a speed demon myself, so I like the way tricks look at speed...but both styles have there merit.
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Thank goodness Tod called me to remind me that Quater Finals were going to happen shorly. I went out to ride yesterday and did my filming. Pretty stoked that I am pulling new combos it seems almost every time I get a chance to ride. I am happy either way the battles go because I am making progression and that's what up!
Great riding by Everyone in the battles. I have been away from home for awhile so its been extremly hard to keep up. Thank Goodness Ortho stepped up and has been helping with the Battle Blog. If you have not been able to keep up with the battles here in the fast moving threads. Be sure to check out the Battle Blog. We have been working very hard to keep it updated and its so easy to see what's happening in the battles.
You can click the results link by class
you can click videos from the Entire class (Thanks Ortho for that suggestion)
If you want the most up todate info..you need to keep checking the threads. The Battle Blog is a way to Archive the event so you can view battles with out weeding through messages.
http://global-flatbattles.blogspot.com/]
[url]http://global-flatbattles.blogspot.com/ (http://[url)[/url]
Keep on Riding!
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so what are the next battles?
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my vote goes to jm
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jm wins stopkaiross (5:0)
1st quarterfinal battle:
raddad67 (Mark)
vs
Kevin@Kassel
You have 4 days to send the videos in!
Run limit is 1min 10sec!
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These Battles take my personal progression to another level. There are times I say to my self..What in the world am I going to do now?!?! I have pulled the hardest link I can do. Some how some way, the pressure and the excitment keeps pushing me to try things I didn't know I can do. ONdo has my video already. I filmed on Thurday..good thing too because I would not be able to film in the next 4 days.
I really liked Verticalsmiles Idea of all the finialist given a time frame like 1 week to get their next video in and that way the momentum will not drag. Its been very fast paced this time because all of the video were in hand already.
Keep on Riding!
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These Battles take my personal progression to another level. There are times I say to my self..What in the world am I going to do now?!?! I have pulled the hardest link I can do. Some how some way, the pressure and the excitment keeps pushing me to try things I didn't know I can do. ONdo has my video already. I filmed on Thurday..good thing too because I would not be able to film in the next 4 days.
I really liked Verticalsmiles Idea of all the finialist given a time frame like 1 week to get their next video in and that way the momentum will not drag. Its been very fast paced this time because all of the video were in hand already.
Keep on Riding!
I can't even overlook the whole thought of how the battles have inspired and made progression to others, me including.
About the finalists- we could make some other battles, for the 3rd place for sure. And maybe a few day pause for the finalists.
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rad dad glad to see you progressed so much.
keep riding
sakis
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Good luck Raddad and Kevin!
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thanks for the votes, guys and also the opportunity to make a better video. I'm on it!
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let the quarterfinals begin...!! more time more tricks :beer:
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Nice video's guys!!! :) jm's run was crazy good and smooth. About the progression....its just the video, not really the battles. If you film regularly with that same 'I really gotta f*cking land this link!' it provides the same progression (for me).
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Nice video's guys!!! :) jm's run was crazy good and smooth. About the progression....its just the video, not really the battles. If you film regularly with that same 'I really gotta f*cking land this link!' it provides the same progression (for me).
This is true... I never started really filming myself riding on a semi-regular basis until I registered for the battles, and it's changed my ability to focus during sessions for the better; mostly due to me actually having a plan of something specific I want to do during the session as opposed to my usual "flail about for a few hours" approach. It's fun, but also requires planning and limits me in some ways... can't go out when the wind kicks up because my tripod will go flying, and haven't figured out how to catch rolling stuff with no one around to pan the camera (my attempts so far have the camera so far back that I can't even see what I'm doing). Pralex said a while back there's almost an art to it, and he was right. -_-
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Nice video's guys!!! :) jm's run was crazy good and smooth. About the progression....its just the video, not really the battles. If you film regularly with that same 'I really gotta f*cking land this link!' it provides the same progression (for me).
But here, there is also the point that you have to show others what you can do. Little bit more motivating, in my opinion.
Today I did all my filming in one session. Already uploaded it and send it to Ondo, so today we are having our first quarter-finals battle :)
I am already nervous :rolleyes:
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1st quarterfinal battle:
raddad67 (Mark)
This is a private video on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/11544610)
vs
Kevin@Kassel
Kevin Brill Global Flat Battle 2 Intermediate (http://vimeo.com/11597562)
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do others can watch marks video?
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I thought Ronny was riding master class hehehe ;D
Good work guys! :beer:
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Great riding Kevin! Lots of Variety, Back wheel and front wheel. I really got to keep working on my crackpacker...your looked very smooth.
Props!!
Keep on Riding!
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I thought Ronny was riding master class hehehe ;D
Good work guys! :beer:
same here :P
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Raddad and Kevin went at it hard in this one! Nice videos, and a total contrast in styles (which is always good). It's a tough one, but I give it to Kevin by a very slight edge for variety. Props to Raddad for that last combo though, especially with that cliff thrown in at the end! However, I will say that although Kevin did an awesome job, some of the combos were also slightly repetitive; something to look out for as you advance, Kev. Great opening battle for the quarters, guys!
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Thanks for the comment about my last link. That was a TOTALLY NEW combonation for me. That was the very first time I ever tried it as well. I was pretty stoked on that. Cliff to Steam is another new one for me. I have only pulled it about 4 times now. One handed hang 5 to Messhia is one I have never did on film before. I just recenly started trying those. Hitchiker was very interesting to me. I am not sure If I have ever did one that way on film or not. I didn't do my normal ride out. As I was watching it back I was like WOW that is so much different from my very first one..hahahaha
I am stoked on the personal progression. Kevin definatly had a TON of variety. I basicly laid every thing on the ground I left nothing back. Its all the best combos I can do...many of the for the first time.
Keep on Riding!
Mark
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Hey everyone if you didn't already know a Blog has been created to help support our Online Battles
http://global-flatbattles.blogspot.com/ (http://global-flatbattles.blogspot.com/)
We have divided up the work and I will be updating for the Intermediate Class. I just added a new share feature so you can share your battles with friends and family on your facebook or twitter pages quickly.
Big Props to
Ortho
Nesquik
Jm
Gezzah
for helping out and taking charge of a class to keep updated!
Let me know if there is anything that is not correct or needs adjusting.
Keep on Riding!!
Mark
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I am stoked on the personal progression. Kevin definatly had a TON of variety. I basicly laid every thing on the ground I left nothing back. Its all the best combos I can do...many of the for the first time.
Keep on Riding!
Mark
I give the edge to Kevin, mark ....im super stoked on your progress, I thought the 3rd link was my favorite, and your starting to get very smooth : )
Either way, I got ALOT of work to do if I want to beat kevin in future vids (and make it past my next battle...IF)
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I am stoked on the personal progression. Kevin definatly had a TON of variety. I basicly laid every thing on the ground I left nothing back. Its all the best combos I can do...many of the for the first time.
Haha, don't ask me about this :/
I have learned the pivot from zero to this point in 3-4 days with endless repetation, this battles are sure giving me the extra motivation I needed. I had been at a point where I could not get further but it seems like I finally got over this and I am very gratefull for the video battles. It's the best thing that could happen for my motivation :)
But if I am not progressing like sh*t again till the next battles I won't have anything new to show. I think that is also one of the differences beetwen intermediate and master class. A greater Arsenal of tricks comes with the time and I honestly don't have that much of quality tricks to fill up the 1.50 minutes in the finals (IF i even reach it what I doubt).
So it's all a question of progression, if I have a chance to move on.
You had a great video raddad I'm, very excited about the results of the judges!
At the end of this I think I am making my 1-year video where I started riding seriously But I am a bit late, maybe its already 1-2 monts over the time. Are you guys interested or would it be a waste of time?
ride on and stay positive! I'm going to school!
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At the end of this I think I am making my 1-year video where I started riding seriously But I am a bit late, maybe its already 1-2 monts over the time. Are you guys interested or would it be a waste of time?
ride on and stay positive! I'm going to school!
Do it.
I was thinking about doing a 2 year video myself : ) That will happen in 5 months or so.
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Raddad, good work!! so far you have the fastest progression that i noticed here in the OBs...
you dialed a couple new tricks/links in such a short time!.. :beer:
both you guys did advanced stuff, but my vote goes to kevin, did some technical stuff in there..the jumps/switches and the turbines... :beer: :beer:
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Hey Kevin whats the name of the song? :huh:
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I have to give this one to Kevin...though I think he should be riding in Expert. Just my opinion.
Rad Dad has had remarkable progression with these battles. :beer:
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Hey Kevin whats the name of the song? :huh:
I'm sorry but I dont know :(
I got it from Ronny in a mix of Uffie's Pop the Glock and made it to 8 minutes or so. But if you want I can send it to you tomorrow evening via icq.
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difficult but my vote goes to kevin
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vote goes to kevin awesome run. definately to experts next time(that's a compliment too)
Mark, good run too. But I don't know why I feel irritated because you seem left footed, but you spin as you were right footed. i watch and it just feels wrong :D WHY?
sorry, this isn't serious. just my thoughts.
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I've tried to give this a lot of thought, as this battle may be as close as it gets. my vote goes to Raddad, with the vast contrast in styles it came down to the variety of tricks and I give Raddad the edge by the slightest of margins. Kevin you are amazing Dude, and your progression shows how hard you've been working. Great job to both guys!
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Another vote to kevin here.
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Kevin@Kassel wins raddad67 (Mark) (4:1)
next battle:
Iriez
vs
Denny @ Göttingen
You have 4 days to send the videos.
Run limit is 1min 10sec
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Kevin@Kassel wins raddad67 (Mark) (4:1)
next battle:
Iriez
vs
Denny @ Göttingen
You have 4 days to send the videos.
Run limit is 1min 10sec
Darn... I was hoping to battle one of these boys myself in the quarters! ;D This one is going to be hype for sure...
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Thanks for all the cool comments. Good luck to the remaining competitors.
Keep on Riding!
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Thanks for all the cool comments. Good luck to the remaining competitors.
Keep on Riding!
I'm thinking we'll probably end up sessioning together some day, raddad, and I'm going to insist that you hang-5 past me and slap me five. lol Peace
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That would be very cool. Team Ultra Rad!!
Keep on Ridng!
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Haha, oh man denny's gonna murder me. : ) :beer:
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no, not really
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no, not really
Why, did you break a leg? :P
I havnt landed anything I want to put in my video's for almost 6 days running. My consistency is off, my body hates me, my bike keeps breaking and by tomorrow I will be on my 3rd hub in 1 week(axle breaks), im not adjusting to my new setup....
Add that I've taken 7 Imodium AD's and I still cant keep down a cup of water (thanks IBS..great timing). No water/food - no riding. Im really frustrated.
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no, not really
Why, did you break a leg? :P
I havnt landed anything I want to put in my video's for almost 6 days running. My consistency is off, my body hates me, my bike keeps breaking and by tomorrow I will be on my 3rd hub in 1 week(axle breaks), im not adjusting to my new setup....
Add that I've taken 7 Imodium AD's and I still cant keep down a cup of water (thanks IBS..great timing). No water/food - no riding. Im really frustrated.
Maybe Ondo can postpone your battle? Sounds like you're having a pretty rough go of things right now... I just found out from my urgent care visit yesterday that I "strained my abdomen" apparently. :angry: luckily I have a video together already, but in the off chance I advance (unlikely, given who's left? lol), not sure when I'll be able to film again. I did work on the tricks already and know I can do them, but nothing on tape yet. "Strained abdomen" = old a*s man.
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no, not really
Why, did you break a leg? :P
I havnt landed anything I want to put in my video's for almost 6 days running. My consistency is off, my body hates me, my bike keeps breaking and by tomorrow I will be on my 3rd hub in 1 week(axle breaks), im not adjusting to my new setup....
Add that I've taken 7 Imodium AD's and I still cant keep down a cup of water (thanks IBS..great timing). No water/food - no riding. Im really frustrated.
Maybe Ondo can postpone your battle? Sounds like you're having a pretty rough go of things right now... I just found out from my urgent care visit yesterday that I "strained my abdomen" apparently. :angry: luckily I have a video together already, but in the off chance I advance (unlikely, given who's left? lol), not sure when I'll be able to film again. I did work on the tricks already and know I can do them, but nothing on tape yet. "Strained abdomen" = old a*s man.
Its ok...sh*t happens (in my case, literally lols). All i really need is one solid day and I could probably put something together. I've got 2 or so more days ...so I'll hope they are without too many complications. I dont want to be an exception to anything.
Sorry to hear man, internal injuries blow :( I've never even heard of a strained abdomen before. You must be twistin hard!!!
My stomach is seeming to settle, though im so dehydrated i feel like utter sh*te (dehydration == migraines). Im gonna relax, hydrate, eat and try to get a sesh in.
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dang guys, sorry to hear all that, take good care!
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Ended up being a good session. Im still cramping like a mofo, but managed to tune it out for a few hours. I'll make sure to not abuse myself tonight like I always do. :beer:
I think I got a 1/3rd of the time needed for the entry. Lets hope for consistency tomorrow!
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Ended up being a good session. Im still cramping like a mofo, but managed to tune it out for a few hours. I'll make sure to not abuse myself tonight like I always do. :beer:
I think I got a 1/3rd of the time needed for the entry. Lets hope for consistency tomorrow!
Sorry to hear about your bad situation. I know your problem :< I havn't been able to ride since sunday because my foot hurt sooo much even during walk just because i have to stand on the edge of my peg for this f*ckn pivot :D I guess I can't even ride today so that I can last longer tomorrow when I am riding with Ronny again.
I hope you are getting better, Iriez! Don't give up :P
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Let's get it on! I'm dying to see this battle because I know both of you will be throwing out (or up, depending on how you guys are feeling health wise =P) some crazy sh*te!
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Iriez
Round.3.Int.Quarter Final run (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEWZ2E7UebM#lq-lq2-hq-vhq-hd)
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Denny @ Göttingen
Denny Battle Video #2 (http://vimeo.com/11713680)
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I love your riding man. I'll give you my vote here, and in the polls.
Loved the karl cruiser to cross handed steam transition, that was bomb. The flow was way above mine, though I've only recently started working on all them linking tricks ; )
PS- 90% of all material I learned in the past 2 weeks. 25% in the past 2 days. Im trying to bring all the NEW in.
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iriez
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my vote to Iriez, but this was close as most the other battles. Keep pushin' guys!
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my vote goes to iriez
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my vote goes to iriez
You could be a good judge Ronny!
You choose to vote for Iriez, and not for your friend, i like that
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Iriez dropped the hammer down on this one for the win... the line at :34 secs. flowed really nice. Denny had a good run as well, and now has me on the lookout for anyone with an @ symbol in their forum name when it comes to the battles. ;D
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Two different styles, its hard to judge but I will vote Iriez because he's bringing new tricks.
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Man....denny...you are going to murder me in the next comp with flow and style with your progression. Either u progress faster than anyone I know or u was holding back on that first run :p
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my vote goes to iriez
Could? He is a judge :p
Ronny...thank u for non preferential judging :)
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gratulation iriez.
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or u was holding back on that first run :p
don't understand
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or u was holding back on that first run :p
don't understand
didn't do your hardest tricks.
he thinks that you are better than the videos show, it's a compliment :)
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ah... hmmm yes than he was right.
he spent more time for filming than me do's... so this is the result...
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you guys really raised the bar with these videos, I'm totally impressed! please bury me gently, ok? heh
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impressed!
:mellow:
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I think I cant participate any longer in the battles, guys.
Last sunday as I filmed the video I recognized a strong pain in my foot. After the session I couldn't even walk without pain. I think it came through the massive use of my foot while I learned the pivot....
Well, I havn't been able to ride the whole week and wednesday when I was riding with ronny I couldnt even make megaspins anymore. My foot won't get better. I don't think that it will be better when the next round starts...
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you guys really raised the bar with these videos, I'm totally impressed! please bury me gently, ok? heh
Haha... whatever JM. You kill it; I'm getting buried first! ;D
Kevin: That totally sucks... I'm pretty sure we were all looking forward to your riding in the future rounds. At the same time, if your foot is really hurting that bad, priority should be to get it checked out properly. I remember riding with a sprained ankle because I was young and didn't know better, and it gave me problems for years instead of months if I'd have dealt with it properly. Hope it does heal in time so you can continue, but if not, you've got my respect for sure with what you've shown so far. Peace!
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you guys really raised the bar with these videos, I'm totally impressed! please bury me gently, ok? heh
Haha... whatever JM. You kill it; I'm getting buried first! ;D
Kevin: That totally sucks... I'm pretty sure we were all looking forward to your riding in the future rounds. At the same time, if your foot is really hurting that bad, priority should be to get it checked out properly. I remember riding with a sprained ankle because I was young and didn't know better, and it gave me problems for years instead of months if I'd have dealt with it properly. Hope it does heal in time so you can continue, but if not, you've got my respect for sure with what you've shown so far. Peace!
video sent. get well soon Kevin! sorry to hear about the foot, that's a bummer.
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if kevin really cant competete anymore, maybe i could replace him? would this be possible?
only if kevin don't object. (wenn du nichts dagegen hast!)
ondo??
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That would be really unfair to the other people who got knocked out. Why should you get a second chance and they don't. Gnome sayin?
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That would be really unfair to the other people who got knocked out. Why should you get a second chance and they don't. Gnome sayin?
Word... nothing against you at all, Denny, but a second chance wouldn't be fair. It'd be up to Ondo to figure out how to deal with the odd number left with Kevin out of the running. I guess a 3 way battle, or something like Top Chef (yeah, my lady makes me watch it... =), where someone gets voted out and the other 2 advance?
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if kevin really cant competete anymore, maybe i could replace him? would this be possible?
only if kevin don't object. (wenn du nichts dagegen hast!)
ondo??
I would like to elect myself to replace Kevin...but only if denny does not object. :p
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ok... so i dont care anymore
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no replacing! denny you sound sad. :D
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Iriez wins Denny @ Göttingen (5:0)
next battle:
Ultraman Zoffy
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bese
You have 4 days!
Run limit is 1min 10sec!
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Video will be sent momentarily... I've been so busy at work with commencement ceremonies and student orientations that I didn't really get a chance to film anything organized, so the random bits I have will have to do...
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Yeah, I don't think that it would be fair either, Denny. But Ondo also said no. So...Daddy has spoken :D
I think I am going to wait if it get's any better this week. But even if it will get better so much that I am able to ride than I am thrown back a whole week... Guess I have to ride even more to make this up if its going to be better. I just stood up (man, I HATE to sleep so long!) and it nearly didnt hurt during my walk to the bathroom... let's hope the best
Gut luck Zoffy and bese!
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TIMES UP :p
VIIIIDEEEEOOOO BATTTLLLLEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111!!!!111!!!11!!1! .............2
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TIMES UP :p
VIIIIDEEEEOOOO BATTTLLLLEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111!!!!111!!!11!!1! .............2
Dude, my video has been done for a while now... lol
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Iriez wins Denny @ Göttingen (5:0)
next battle:
Ultraman Zoffy
Global-Flat Intermediate Quarter Final Battle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70gc8cVKpC8#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
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bese
global flat battles.quarter finals.intermediate.BESE. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H7rpDSzE38#lq-lq2-hq)
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sorry guys, I'm busy a bit
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GOOD MATCH!
I had to watch both a few times to make notations. But I feel that zoffy has more technical difficulty overall. bese IMO had a better flow to his control, where zoffy controlled with stops, pivots, scuffs, breaks, etc.
The styles were completely different in that perspective, and very similar in the others.
I love seeing the new stuff : )
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Had to vote Ultrman here, and I think a move to expert next time. bese, awesome flow and control, keep pushin'
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And you guys said, that I am to good for intermediate? ;)
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I'm going with Zoffy on this one, nice runs guys!
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Yeah Zoffy gets my vote.
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very nice video zoffy!!! your braketricks kill me..hehe ;D when you started ride??
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Wow it seems the whole intermediate group has stepped up! Great riding. Love to watch other styles of riding.
If you have not checked it out. YOu can view Battles on the Battle Blog as well. There are 5 of us keeping this updated through the week.
http://global-flatbattles.blogspot.com/ (http://global-flatbattles.blogspot.com/)
If you click the Intemediate Video link
http://global-flatbattles.blogspot.com/search/label/Intermediate%20battle (http://global-flatbattles.blogspot.com/search/label/Intermediate%20battle)
You will get all the videos that have been submitted so far if you want to re watch or catch up on what you missed.
Keep on Riding!
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my vote goes to zoffy
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And you guys said, that I am to good for intermediate? ;)
I think the top 5 should move to expert and likely half of the class by the time the next battles start.
STAKES IS HIGH!
-De la.
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And you guys said, that I am to good for intermediate? ;)
I think the top 5 should move to expert and likely half of the class by the time the next battles start.
STAKES IS HIGH!
-De la.
I took 2nd place in round 2. I have made progression since then but still not even close to the same level as this group. I have always said I would move to the expert class after at least winning the class I have been riding in or linking hitchhiker to crackpacker. The riding level this time is UP there. Thats great because it keeps pushing everyone a bit harder. We encourage each other and that is perfect!
Keep on Riding!
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very nice video zoffy!!! your braketricks kill me..hehe ;D when you started ride??
Thanks Bese and all the bros for the props! I liked your clip a lot, Bese... you've got a really smooth quality about your tricks and you're definitely going to kill it in a short amount of time with the direction your riding is going. I also envy you for being skinny and limber like I was when I was younger... I'm just a big mass of old now. ;D
As far as when I started to ride freestyle bikes... embarrassingly enough, when I was in junior high school (circa 1986). Quit all throughout high school (when you typically progress your fastest) because the industry died and I couldn't get parts. Came back to the game first year in college, and been going sporadically (but non-stop) ever since.
It may sound cheesy, but it's really an honor for me to even be competing against you all on here at this point in my life. I seriously only get to ride one day out of the week for 3 to 4 hours if I'm lucky, and my progression is almost null and void (until, hopefully, when I can lay out a concrete spot in my backyard and session at will =). Everything I'm throwing into these clips is stuff I've managed to maintain as a "base level" for myself over the years with the meager amount of riding I get in nowadays. Luckily, I've built up enough of a trick library over the years that I can mix and match things on the fly; my tricks are literally freestyled together every time out. I've got nothing but admiration for you all and the directions you're all taking your riding, and I'm glad I still have a place amongst you guys with my old/weird "brake" style. lol
Also, for Joe (or anyone else) to mention that I should be in expert is a huge compliment to hear and I'm really thankful for that. :beer:
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ah, i only get 4 hours per two weeks. especially with finals nearing and project due dates approaching, i don't have time to ride
but once summer hits, i'm riding everyday ;D
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de la soul is dead
Tell that to my friend who opened for them a few months back.
PS - KRS One is much longer 'dead' than de la.
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^You must not be up on your hiphop..KRS is alive..and knockin phony rappers out the game as we speak.
Nice riding Zoffy and bese..Very different, but yet somewhat similar runs. Good sh*t, vote goes to zoffy...Love this flatland sh*t, even tho i cant feel my f*ckn fingers at the moment.
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^You must not be up on your hiphop..KRS is alive..and knockin phony rappers out the game as we speak.
Nice riding Zoffy and bese..Very different, but yet somewhat similar runs. Good sh*t, vote goes to zoffy...Love this flatland sh*t, even tho i cant feel my f*ckn fingers at the moment.
Yea, and my previous statement still stands. Tell that to my friend who opened for de la a few months back. They are still alive, and they are still "knockin phony rappers out the game as we speak".
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^You must not be up on your hiphop..KRS is alive..and knockin phony rappers out the game as we speak.
Nice riding Zoffy and bese..Very different, but yet somewhat similar runs. Good sh*t, vote goes to zoffy...Love this flatland sh*t, even tho i cant feel my f*ckn fingers at the moment.
Yea, and my previous statement still stands. Tell that to my friend who opened for de la a few months back. They are still alive, and they are still "knockin phony rappers out the game as we speak".
your age is slight mitigation.......but you should check back catalogues.........great music is timeless
Yea def. I been listening to hip-hop since about 93 so I don't got a age excuse. I didn't expect a album ref so I took the statement literally. The point is that neither are current trends or bring new progression....they are both dead to the label. However both still tour and rap so they are equally alive and kicking.
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I vote for zoffy. really great links!
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Ultraman Zoffy wins bese (5:0)
next battle:
Ten
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jm
You have 4days!
Run limit is 1min 10sec
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there hasnt been any progression for 10 years!!! and if there has its been progressing downwards, fast.........only great LPs you get these days are from the old crews!
&if you need a new album......your best bet is to go backward in time and find stuff you missed!
right now im checking pharoahe monch's stuff he did with organized konfusion.......real underground & real critically acl.....from one of the tightest rappers..i get excited when i discover great stuff i missed much much more than anything new......
I literally had a thousand underground albums so if u want suggestions I'm happy to provide. However I'm born and raised in los Angeles so 80% of my influence is west coast.
Pharoe monch was crazy dope back in the day. Along with rakim, the licks, tribe, de la, krs, binary star, etc. All them early 90's cats.
Yea zoffy ftw!!!!
I'm on borrowed parts atm and no breaks. Should be a interesting next battle :) stoke I got another round to adjust.
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there hasnt been any progression for 10 years!!! and if there has its been progressing downwards, fast.........only great LPs you get these days are from the old crews!
&if you need a new album......your best bet is to go backward in time and find stuff you missed!
right now im checking pharoahe monch's stuff he did with organized konfusion.......real underground & real critically acl.....from one of the tightest rappers..i get excited when i discover great stuff i missed much much more than anything new......
I literally had a thousand underground albums so if u want suggestions I'm happy to provide. However I'm born and raised in los Angeles so 80% of my influence is west coast.
Pharoe monch was crazy dope back in the day. Along with rakim, the licks, tribe, de la, krs, binary star, etc. All them early 90's cats.
Yea zoffy ftw!!!!
I'm on borrowed parts atm and no breaks. Should be a interesting next battle :) stoke I got another round to adjust.
Thanks Iriez, and yeah, the early 90's was a period I'd nominate as the golden age of hip hop... I had cases and cases full of cassette singles (remember those? haha) and we used to watch Yo MTV raps religiously to steal dance moves for upcoming battles. Good times...
Oh, and Ten vs. JM is going to be off the chain! Both of you guys are so smooth... good luck guys!
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was out of town this weekend and saw that I'm up, very excited! best of luck Ten, your riding and your spot are both pretty dope. this is gonna be a good one.
cheers
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(Ten vs jm) Ooooh the tension
best of luck! ;D
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(Ten vs jm) Ooooh the tension
best of luck! ;D
ooo the Ten-sion ^_^
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(Ten vs jm) Ooooh the tension
best of luck! ;D
ooo the Ten-sion ^_^
Gulp!
Jim, your clips never disappoint. Cheers. :beer:
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(Ten vs jm) Ooooh the tension
best of luck! ;D
ooo the Ten-sion ^_^
Gulp!
Jim, your clips never disappoint. Cheers. :beer:
thanks man, I appreciate that! Have you finished your video yet?
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I'm working on my last 20secs, i'll have it in today.
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Sweeeetttt. Post post!
I haunt gotten any film in all this time. I been riding borrowed cracked forks and brakeless. Learning my links brakeless has been quite humbling.
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Dang, Iriez... hope it all works out for you! Borrowed and brakeless is tough...
Spent a couple of hours in my garage working on a combination I'm planning to throw in the next round; 40+ tries to only hit the 2nd half of the complete line ONCE after dumping the ride in for it because I couldn't fit the whole sequence into my garage (without running into a lawnmower or garbage can). Too windy to try it outside in Vegas my last few days off... I'm gonna get blown away in the semis, but it'll all have been worth it to get this bastard on video. lol
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ah the pressure of time. well, I think however this battle turns out I'll keep filming. I still haven't gotten to "the best" stuff...not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. These battles are very motivating and humbling; bringing out all the drive and neurotic thoughts lol.
good luck guys
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Zoffy would battle you if Kevin dropped out... (if you get paired up with Kevin that is)
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I dunno. In fact I havn't been able to ride since the last video...Not a single session... But of course I am hoping, that I can move on.
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I dunno. In fact I havn't been able to ride since the last video...Not a single session... But of course I am hoping, that I can move on.
Will you be able to ride in the next 3-4 days? If not, then you wont have time to make a video. If so, then go for it :)
Soz bout the problems.
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jm/ten ...you guys were done filming yesterday or the day before right? Where's ondo at.
ok, both videos are up. i'm so ready to get this thing going lol. best of luck ten
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Ultraman Zoffy wins bese (5:0)
next battle:
Ten
Ten Quarter Finals (http://vimeo.com/12047386)
vs
jm
jm: global-flat intermediate comp: 3.2 (http://vimeo.com/12003248)
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ill go for ten...after so many year of hibernation, he's back on his desk to do his homework... :ph34r:
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Have to go with Ten on this one. Greater degree of difficulty and variety.
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Both Ten and Jm rocked it out! I loved the brakeless style battle in this one, but I have to ask: Ten's run (or at least 1/2 to 3/4 of it) was exactly the same as his Battle #7 run against Andrew a little while ago (the Hang 5 to Messiah and the halfpacker/backpacker line were identical). I had to go back and watch it to make sure, but it pretty much was. How are we (or I guess the judges) accounting for that? Jm's run was a little similar to previous ones as well, but had more of a difference to his past tricks then Ten's I felt...
I'm not trying to start anything because I totally respect both guys' riding, and it's not my place to say because I'm not a judge (I know who my vote is leaning towards based on these clips), but like TJ mentioned in another battle thread, I thought we weren't supposed to repeat tricks exactly like we threw them down in previous rounds? I guess my stake in it is that I've been challenging myself a lot to try not to repeat stuff and keep it fresh (or at least build up or off of previous rounds tricks), and I'd like to see more new stuff from everyone.
edit: My vote goes to JM btw! The super steam and the fact that a lot of Ten's run was recycled won the day... Ten, I want your spot and I want your backpacker skills! lol
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Ten
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Jm what the heck did you do at 7 seconds to make your back wheel kind of stall like that?
yeah, I just don't touch the seat. There's a sweet spot where it will just hover there for a second on it's own. I tried not to repeat stuff in this video...for example in my backwheel line this time I start it by pumping one handed...but I prolly should have done a bit better :). At the end of the day, I'm totally stoked I entered, this thing has kicked my riding up a notch and I'm very thankful for that.
props Ten.
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'its not my place to say but i did' ^_^ just flippin say it loud this guy cheated and youre PISSED OFF!!! HAHAHA
Actually, I'm not, and I don't feel like it would've been "cheating" to do it... but if you're able to get a laugh off of thinking I am and that I do, knock yourself out. lol
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I really laughed out at the intro from you, jm :D
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Jm what the heck did you do at 7 seconds to make your back wheel kind of stall like that? I was trying to see if you grabbed it somehow but it's kind of tough to see cuz' it's dark. [edit] Watched it again, guess it just kind of hovered on it's own for a second, looked really weird first time I saw it like some jedi mind trick lol :beer:
Beautiful runs by both guys! I can't say who's was better/harder but I kinda thought jm's was more original. He was obviously trying to push the envelope with that last one lol, that was awesome!
He was carving to the right and the bike was going to the left. There is a pendulum effect where the opposite rotation will balance out the opposing spin velocity. Had the bike had more velocity than jm standing on the pegs, it would have continued to rotate until he was in a crossfooted elbow glide (or on his face haha).
I go for ten on this one for more control and variations = higher difficulty
jm: what song is that? The original is on my top ten of all time, and as a dubstep version should be #1 :) :) :beer: :beer: PS - keep that intro man, its hilarious. I love the stupid sh*t we do while we ride :) Even if its just skarin birdies.
N/m on the song. Zeds dead (nights in white satin remix). Dope...grabbin all his mixes :)
Ten: NICE JUGGLERS!!! Keep em comin, your going to be whipping those like nobody soon.
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'its not my place to say but i did' ^_^ just flippin say it loud this guy cheated and youre PISSED OFF!!! HAHAHA
Actually, I'm not, and I don't feel like it would've been "cheating" to do it... but if you're able to get a laugh off of thinking I am and that I do, knock yourself out. lol
Hah! I was thinking the same thing. Like "huh? Wait, no really...he REALLY Wasnt. really really."
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great runs from both of you!
super steams are too fncking cool looking!
seems like a lot of weight shifting in that split second,
of going into it from a regular steam. Very nice!
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hey maybe he got no more tricks and youre not in this group are you? leave him be :P
who cares who wins anyway ... :ph34r:
Actually, I, uh, am in his group... and even though we're not all cutthroat about this contest, I'd think its sort of disrespectful to all the competitors who put their effort into filming for the battles to imply that winning shouldn't matter or that they shouldn't care. We're all pretty much rooting for eachother, and whoever comes out on top deserves to be stoked about it. I'm cool with your sense of humor though; you should check out the battle bails video thread in the media section. Last I checked, Ondo and Iriez are in a tie for what they managed to do to their nuts while filming... ;D
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winning and bieng the top/best/rich/greedy/bitching is in your culture
Dude, I wasn't even try to blow up on you like this was fight club and you're obviously on a completely different train of thought then I am on this thread, so I'll squash it on my end by quoting this^ from you and pointing out that there's folks from all around the globe that entered the battles and the organizer of these battles isn't from my "culture", so you bashing my "culture" mMistaking culture for country, maybe?) for being die hard about "bieng" the "top/best/rich/greedy/bitching" doesn't make any sense. :huh: You keep posting, and I'll keep laughing. :rolleyes:
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this bickering is totally unrelated to the thread and is only taking away from the battles
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i did vote for the cheater but only cos of his cool music and rocky intro ^_^
how did I cheat? thanks for the vote tho :P
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just to clear up the confusion, Zoffy's reference to re using tricks was not about me mate. :)
cheers
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just to clear up the confusion, Zoffy's reference to re using tricks was not about me mate. :)
cheers
oh ok maybe im drunk :P
Can you please refrain from spamming our battle thread? There's appropriate places to post jokes(or whatever you've got) in Open Talk.
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nice riding guys!..
my vote goes to ten (judging from this Run alone)..
more difficulty form ten's run..
but if the rules "no exactly repeated runs" apply, then i guess jm would get the edge on this one..
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my vote goes to jm
because ten's first 2 combos are exactly the same like in the first video.
jim, the first links were so smooth
that last ride out was hilarious :P
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Ten is a nice number 1 & 0, a variety without a doubt...vote goes to JM, not repeating.
N
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my vote goes to jm
because ten's first 2 combos are exactly the same like in the first video.
jim, the first links were so smooth
that last ride out was hilarious :P
hmm... now i question if all of the judges watch the older videos to see if they repeat or not
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my vote goes to jm
ten does some stuff from older video
i like the first juggler combo :mellow:
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my vote goes to jm
ten does some stuff from older video
i like the first juggler combo :mellow:
I dont think repetition rules should apply until expert class. The bottom portion of this class usually has a limited tricktionary, or at the very least a limited trictionary in the higher degree of difficulty. they can only throw down so much (hell, even I can only throw down so much).
I think it should be a expert/master rule, and that you should judge beginner/intermediate based on the riding submitted and not on the past.
its like saying Mattias doesnt deserve to win because he repeats all his tricks. At his level, repeating those tricks at that difficulty displays his consistency. At a beg/int video battle level, I think it equates to the same.
Hopefully it was PZA that deleted his own posts. He was trollin hard.
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when it was the same combo..it would be possible to change a lil bit on it.
but that was not the point for my decision because i know what you mean and repeating tricks on intermediate level isnt a important point. i only wanted to say it. jm repeat tricks too.
not because of repeating but for the tricks i give it to jm.
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my vote goes to jm
ten does some stuff from older video
i like the first juggler combo :mellow:
I dont think repetition rules should apply until expert class. The bottom portion of this class usually has a limited tricktionary, or at the very least a limited trictionary in the higher degree of difficulty. they can only throw down so much (hell, even I can only throw down so much).
I think it should be a expert/master rule, and that you should judge beginner/intermediate based on the riding submitted and not on the past.
its like saying Mattias doesnt deserve to win because he repeats all his tricks. At his level, repeating those tricks at that difficulty displays his consistency. At a beg/int video battle level, I think it equates to the same.
I think the Matthias example, and with that the comparison to a "live" contest in general, isn't a good one because we're talking about a video contest where everyone has days to prepare what they're going to do. Consistency is huge in a live contest because of the pressure to hit hard moves within a small time frame; in a video contest where everyone has days/weeks to prepare a clip, consistency isn't really an issue because by the time we see the video, everything is landed on the "first" try.
I was on the fence about the rule when I first read a discussion about it in one of the other battles, but in the end I agree with it because of the contest format we're dealing with. Obviously, the expectation to do a COMPLETELY different run without repeating ANY single trick would be impossible (like saying "no hang 5's in the next video because you did it in a combo the last time"). I think the expectation is more along the lines of building off the previous runs, linking things in different orders, or (especially for beginners) extending/rolling their single tricks further or doing them smoother (and possibly doing different rideouts?).
I'll leave the official interpretation of it to the judges, but I know I've been stressing (in a good, motivated way of course. lol) trying to think of different combos/sequences and how I could build off things for each round because that's what I thought we were supposed to do? Not having the pressure to do that would be nice, but I don't think any of us would be as motivated to progress as much as I keep reading in the posts. People seem stoked on how motivated they are after entering, and some of that has to come from the repeat rule making them think differently about their riding. I think it'd be harsh to apply it to beginners too seriously (maybe more a bonus if they vary things, but no penalty if they don't?). But from what I've seen in intermediates, expert, and master, skill levels seem high enough for it to seem reasonable to vary things up each run, even if it's on a small level.
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I think the intermediate level which I see on this round allows riders to change something.
And I know Ten can land something awesome, it's just my personal judges view on this- every next run must show a progression, as the opponent gets better, you won't withstand with the tricks you got.
about the repeating, ok, the rule is for beginners, but the intermediates..well I don't know.
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I think if you repeat tricks again in your second run, and by tricks I mean general concepts from link to link etc jugglers vs doing spinning jugglers, then you shouldn't be "scored" as high as the other rider who brings something entirely new to the table.
If this is about progression, there's no other way to look at it.
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Guys, it's all good. I am happy how this battle rolled out despite my small bag of tricks and creeping progression. Props to Jim for laying out a whole new spread of tight combos. Going up against him is a great way to end my battles for this round. I'll be back in future rounds. Goodluck to the all the finalists. Cheers. :beer:
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Guys, everything's good. I am happy how this battle rolled out despite my small bag of tricks and creeping progression. Props to Jim for laying out a whole new spread of tight combos. Going up against him is a great way to end my battles for this round. I'll be back in future rounds. Goodluck to the all the finalists. Cheers. :beer:
that's a great attitude. nothing personal!
by the way man, the result isn't clear yet! It's 2:2 now. Last vote from Joe!
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so if you are in these battles, each new vid has to be without repetition of any links in previous battles?..
How unique do the links have to be?
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so if you are in these battles, each new vid has to be without repetition of any links in previous battles?..
How unique do the links have to be?
Ideally they should be as unique as possible. Not sure why that's confusing for some.
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so if you are in these battles, each new vid has to be without repetition of any links in previous battles?..
How unique do the links have to be?
eh, you can repeat links, but not all the combo. repeating something lowers it's value in my point of view.
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I just remember that somewhere was noted (long time ago) that for intermediate this rule will be less demanding, but since its video battles where you have a lot of tries and time to progress I guess its reasonable.
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Correct me if Im wrong, but
to make it clearer:
1st run: You did a Double Juggler.. and 1 steam turbine..
so on the 2nd run: You do a tripple juggler.. and 3 steam turbines..
or you can change the ride in and ride outs of the combos within your Run..
*this is what it means to "tweak" up a bit your combos so they are not identical to the 1st one.
this way it is clear a progression..
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Correct me if Im wrong, but
to make it clearer:
1st run: You did a Double Juggler.. and 1 steam turbine..
so on the 2nd run: You do a tripple juggler.. and 3 steam turbines..
or you can change the ride in and ride outs of the combos within your Run..
*this is what it means to "tweak" up a bit your combos so they are not identical to the 1st one.
this way it is clear a progression..
This is how I've been interpreting it... for example, if Ten dropped additional backpacker whips in, it wouldn't have been exactly the same combo because to keep the speed and balance going to extend the combo out (I'd think) would be a clear progression on what he did previously. It seems like it'd be a little too much to call people on this rule if it's on a trick-for-trick basis like saying Ten can't do backpackers at all because he used them already...
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This is how I've been interpreting it... for example, if Ten dropped additional backpacker whips in, it wouldn't have been exactly the same combo because to keep the speed and balance going to extend the combo out (I'd think) would be a clear progression on what he did previously. It seems like it'd be a little too much to call people on this rule if it's on a trick-for-trick basis like saying Ten can't do backpackers at all because he used them already...
quite my thoughts.
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My vote to jm, this was really close, but as has been stated a lot of repeats for ten, both guys KILLED it though, great riding guys!
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jm wins Ten (3:2)
first semifinal battle:
Kevin@Kassel
vs
Iriez
You have 4 days!
Run limit is 1min 30sec!
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thank you for voting!
great battle Ten, awesome riding by you
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Great battle JM and Ten! Congrats on the win, JM :beer:
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Cool. Glad that's all sorted. I didn't realize it was that 'loose' ...the idea of tacking on more and having it called the same bugged me.
I should have video late tonight I just been lagging on editing.
Kevin please let us know how things are coming along. We would all rather know sooner than later so we can handle these finals ASAP.
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yeah...I tried to ride today but my foot still sucked so hard that it was not possible...Even if I am able to ride tomorrow I dont know what to show. I havn't been able to learn new stuff since my last video because I havnt been riding a single day...Well but I will give it another try tomorrow...Let's see how it turns out
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Ah soz. Hope it works out tomorrow. If not, there's always gonna be another battle! : )
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Awesome. Shot a 30 second clip the other day and deleted it today before i went riding. you know, 'cleaned up the trash' on my SD card....ffs.
that was lame. T'was the best link i had landed yet, with a buncha other stuff thrown in the mix. Well, atleast animal got to see it.
I've done that before too.... SUCKS. lol I'm pretty paranoid nowadays about checking up on my camera to make sure everything's queued up right after I hit something.
Haven't ridden for the past 2 weeks... wind in Vegas keeps shutting me down on my days off! When if finally chills out, I'm either at work or beat down from work. Pfft. Everything is in my head, but haven't had a chance to really work it out... good luck with the battle Kev and Iriez!
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Awesome. Shot a 30 second clip the other day and deleted it today before i went riding. you know, 'cleaned up the trash' on my SD card....ffs.
that was lame. T'was the best link i had landed yet, with a buncha other stuff thrown in the mix. Well, atleast animal got to see it.
I've done it 2 times with the battle videos. :D
On the 2nd round and now at this one, last battle. Pulled a combo, I was so happy, wanted to check it out and automatically pressed erase - ok :D damn, but I was like whatever and landed it soon.
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Yea imma just do it again today but man that was lame.
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In my first battle, I accidently deleted my entire edit and had to use alternate clips from my filming. I feel ya.
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I keep 2 or 3 tapes with me when I go out so when I land something, I mark it as landed and change tapes JUST IN CASE.
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So, I guess this is it. I would have been like Ondo because I have currently no cranks :rolleyes:
But plus the sh*tload of other depressing things that are happening at the moment in my life I cant ride. It's just too much pain. As soon as I start riding and the pain comes I lose control over my foot.
If I am not allowed to participate with my previous Video, I have to quit. But I would lose either way.. yeah well... let's hope theres no borderline depression coming up :D
...srsly...gosh -.-*
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oh, sorry to hear that. everything will go up..
so, Iriez, film something nice, so you can take the win, you can't get it without a video :P
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Sorry about all the stuff you've got going on, Kevin. Really though, if your foot is giving you that much trouble, make sure to get it checked out asap if you can; it sounds pretty bad. And what happened to your cranks?
Rather then Iriez waste his footage and tricks in an uncontested win video, would a 3-way final be better at this point? If he landed some good stuff, I'd rather he be able to put it to use in a battle against me and JM then just showing it arbitrarily. Let me know what you think, bros. Kevin owes us a comeback video too once he gets everything straightened out. :beer:
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Sorry about all the stuff you've got going on, Kevin. Really though, if your foot is giving you that much trouble, make sure to get it checked out asap if you can; it sounds pretty bad. And what happened to your cranks?
Rather then Iriez waste his footage and tricks in an uncontested win video, would a 3-way final be better at this point? If he landed some good stuff, I'd rather he be able to put it to use in a battle against me and JM then just showing it arbitrarily. Let me know what you think, bros. Kevin owes us a comeback video too once he gets everything straightened out. :beer:
This is precisely what I had recommended on the prior page. I see no reason to waste a video and all reason instead to do a 3 way battle. I don't have enough video for a full battle anyways so it makes sense to just start the finals today.
I cannot think of any reason not to. If this were master then that extra round would be fun to see what variety we come out with....but at this level arnt we all just all just trying to land our few links the way we want it? 2 rounds more is just going to be 80% of the stuff we will have done in semi.
If ondo can't agree then I'm just going to post my best link as my vid and save the garbage for the finals. Either way I think it would be more fun and competitive as a 3 way.
If there is objection, perhaps we can overcome that by extending the time limit? Im still in favor of 4 days but I feel I've had more time than you guys for filming (even if I haunt put it to good use lol)
Kevin: sorry your body is being difficult. Rest it and it will tighten back up!:p the next time we battle it will be for expert :) I'm sure you'll be spinning as fast and as long as ronny :) I look forward to it and I'm sorry bout the foot.
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Sorry about all the stuff you've got going on, Kevin. Really though, if your foot is giving you that much trouble, make sure to get it checked out asap if you can; it sounds pretty bad. And what happened to your cranks?
Rather then Iriez waste his footage and tricks in an uncontested win video, would a 3-way final be better at this point? If he landed some good stuff, I'd rather he be able to put it to use in a battle against me and JM then just showing it arbitrarily. Let me know what you think, bros. Kevin owes us a comeback video too once he gets everything straightened out. :beer:
Jeah, I am going to see a doctor the next time I have time... My sprocket broke at my ride home and st. martin isnt producing the fitting sprocket to the old hollo flat anymore... So I bought new cranks and unfortanately the only sprocket that would fit my momentary chain and freecoaster is the english sprocket...it has not arrived yet :/ And I think it will break very soon...
thanks for the good wishes i will follow your battles!
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guys, ask jim if he wants the 3 way final. if he agrees, I have no problems with that.
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guys, ask jim if he wants the 3 way final. if he agrees, I have no problems with that.
I'm totally ok with a 3 way.
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guys, ask jim if he wants the 3 way final. if he agrees, I have no problems with that.
I'm totally ok with a 3 way.
That was entirely inappropriate.
As to the video battle however, f*ckING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been having SO much fun riding the last few days. This should be GREAT!!!! :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:
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final battle:
jm
vs
Ultraman Zoffy
vs
Iriez
You have 7 days!
Run limit is 1min 40sec!
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guys, ask jim if he wants the 3 way final. if he agrees, I have no problems with that.
I'm totally ok with a 3 way.
So things got a little out of hand at the McDuff house last night...ha, ha! :beer:
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guys, ask jim if he wants the 3 way final. if he agrees, I have no problems with that.
I'm totally ok with a 3 way.
So things got a little out of hand at the McDuff house last night...ha, ha! :beer:
lol
keep it clean, guys. I'm ok with a 3 way final battle. good luck Iriez and Ultraman Zoffy!
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guys, ask jim if he wants the 3 way final. if he agrees, I have no problems with that.
I'm totally ok with a 3 way.
So things got a little out of hand at the McDuff house last night...ha, ha! :beer:
HAHAHA :beer:
We both went the same way with that one lol
7 days? Awesome.....I should be able to learn 2 new tricks then.
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one week huh. it's going to be a long week. if I learn even one new trick, as long as it's a good one I will be very pleased.
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Me and animal have been hitting the ground hardddddd every single day. If I lose I could care less.....I'm progressing at maniac speeds. I'm so incredibly pleased with my riding and so stoked on the concept of flatland.
The spot we ride at is amazing. Long beach is dubbed 'the most bicycle friendly city in the world' ...I'm going to make a video of all the people we meet. Some are Hella cool and some are retarded funny. I even pickup girls ;)
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Me and animal have been hitting the ground hardddddd every single day. If I lose I could care less.....I'm progressing at maniac speeds. I'm so incredibly pleased with my riding and so stoked on the concept of flatland.
The spot we ride at is amazing. Long beach is dubbed 'the most bicycle friendly city in the world' ...I'm going to make a video of all the people we meet. Some are Hella cool and some are retarded funny. I even pickup girls ;)
woooow. that's sounds inspirational man. good luck!
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My video is already done... :rolleyes: Pressures off to hit things, but I'm probably going to try to reshoot 2 tricks to try and get a better camera angle on them. Good luck guys!
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My video is already done... :rolleyes: Pressures off to hit things, but I'm probably going to try to reshoot 2 tricks to try and get a better camera angle on them. Good luck guys!
NICE!!!! I planned on doing a video tongiht, but not the final...just the 'last 4-5 days' type vid. As usual i spent too much time dicking around and geting hammered so I didnt get it finished. :P
But I did get this awesomeness:
Khe Hub Slips - I eat crap - lolcopters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAaTSQqP5wY#lq-lq2-hq-vhq-hd)
Yep. Know how I been posting bout mad problems? Yea, add another to that list. I've regreased it, been talking to Jesse P tonight bout his experiences too, and I dont see any solutions. I would think I would want the inside of the shell where the clutch engages to be sticky or as frictional as possible....but im not a bmx engineer :)
So no pedaling for me. Its like im riding crankless with pegs or something. Sa'll good, i got lots of lnks i dont need to pedal : )
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My video is already done... :rolleyes: Pressures off to hit things, but I'm probably going to try to reshoot 2 tricks to try and get a better camera angle on them. Good luck guys!
NICE!!!! I planned on doing a video tongiht, but not the final...just the 'last 4-5 days' type vid. As usual i spent too much time dicking around and geting hammered so I didnt get it finished. :P
But I did get this awesomeness:
Khe Hub Slips - I eat crap - lolcopters ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAaTSQqP5wY#lq-lq2-hq-vhq-hd[/url])
Yep. Know how I been posting bout mad problems? Yea, add another to that list. I've regreased it, been talking to Jesse P tonight bout his experiences too, and I dont see any solutions. I would think I would want the inside of the shell where the clutch engages to be sticky or as frictional as possible....but im not a bmx engineer :)
So no pedaling for me. Its like im riding crankless with pegs or something. Sa'll good, i got lots of lnks i dont need to pedal : )
Haha, Your bike seems to be gradually disintegrating, Iriez... first the brake, now the cranks? Pegless coming up next! lol
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do you guys both have completed videos?
*My life has been beyond hectic lately and will continue this week as we close on a house and move across town. I'm not interested in trying to win right now, and seriously doubt that I'll have the time to put out a video I'm proud of...this week :) . I say if everyone's cool with it, you two just go ahead and battle for the win. I've got everything out of this competition that I hoped to get already; motivation, ideas, progress, and confidence. Sorry to bail out, but seriously, this is the most hectic time of my life right now. I simply have to focus on other things this week. I hope that ya'll understand.
cheers
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do you guys both have completed videos?
*My life has been beyond hectic lately and will continue this week as we close on a house and move across town. I'm not interested in trying to win right now, and seriously doubt that I'll have the time to put out a video I'm proud of...this week :) . I say if everyone's cool with it, you two just go ahead and battle for the win. I've got everything out of this competition that I hoped to get already; motivation, ideas, progress, and confidence. Sorry to bail out, but seriously, this is the most hectic time of my life right now. I simply have to focus on other things this week. I hope that ya'll understand.
cheers
Wow JM, congrats on the new house! I guess I'm cool with it (I was really looking forward to all 3 of us in it because of the big contrast in our riding styles though.. =( I suppose it's up to Iriez and Ondo then.
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yeah, I mean, if it's not OK I'll just go out one night and film a session. That's not what I wanted to do for a battle; I wanted to do things that I haven't done before. Once I'm moved, I will continue right where I left off and do a nice edit without time constraints.
anyhoo...let me know either way. I'm totally willing to do whatever is best, I just can't develop anything new this week.
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yeah, I mean, if it's not OK I'll just go out one night and film a session. That's not what I wanted to do for a battle; I wanted to do things that I haven't done before. Once I'm moved, I will continue right where I left off and do a nice edit without time constraints.
anyhoo...let me know either way. I'm totally willing to do whatever is best, I just can't develop anything new this week.
I was hoping for you to film but considering the circumstances it would be the most convenient time to bail as I'm sure zoffy will bring it to the plate :)
Ills let ya off the hook with one condition: you must still film a video battle next week that you are proud of. Seeing every one of us progress and push in real time has been a awesome experience and really some pretty cool data :) I can finally sense how quickly my peers progress. Animal is intermediate level now and he's getting better literally and visibly by the day.....and I've felt the same myself.
And it was front wheel...hub....rim...forks....brakes....and my Chase bars got slightly bent forward on the left grip so my stem is at a slight angle to offset it. I despise living leverage in any part of my bike. So yeh now my back is toast.
Luckily I have good friends and rode cracked champagne forks with a bent dropout to boot with a spare front for the past week lol :) friend is bringing a primo n4fl for me today and got oydyssey zero forks the day before.....so its coming back together.
Grats on the house! Bought my first place last year. Flatland don't pay no bills but I do it more than I work lol.
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yeah, I mean, if it's not OK I'll just go out one night and film a session. That's not what I wanted to do for a battle; I wanted to do things that I haven't done before. Once I'm moved, I will continue right where I left off and do a nice edit without time constraints.
anyhoo...let me know either way. I'm totally willing to do whatever is best, I just can't develop anything new this week.
I was hoping for you to film but considering the circumstances it would be the most convenient time to bail as I'm sure zoffy will bring it to the plate :)
Ills let ya off the hook with one condition: you must still film a video battle next week that you are proud of. Seeing every one of us progress and push in real time has been a awesome experience and really some pretty cool data :) I can finally sense how quickly my peers progress. Animal is intermediate level now and he's getting better literally and visibly by the day.....and I've felt the same myself.
And it was front wheel...hub....rim...forks....brakes....and my Chase bars got slightly bent forward on the left grip so my stem is at a slight angle to offset it. I despise living leverage in any part of my bike. So yeh now my back is toast.
Luckily I have good friends and rode cracked champagne forks with a bent dropout to boot with a spare front for the past week lol :) friend is bringing a primo n4fl for me today and got oydyssey zero forks the day before.....so its coming back together. Either way being forced to go brakeless has been the best situation for my riding. I'm doing everything I was before with some transitions I thought would take months to learn without brakes! :) also it taught me that my riding is benefited from learning stuff like turbines and transitions over using brakes. It's made my riding faster and usually smoother if I'm not twitchy lol.
Grats on the house! Bought my first place last year. Flatland don't pay no bills but I do it more than I work lol.
are you this much of an asshole in real life? i'm just so sick of your ego and condescending attitude. it's finally pissed me off. please don't tell me what to do, my life is on my own terms. this is not a great time for jokes or whatever it is you were trying to accomplish with that. anyways, I'm out, carry on.
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easy shmeasy guys
If Iriez and Zoffy agree, then it's ok. Jim takes the 3rd place.
But for both of you, everything still happening..
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yeah, I mean, if it's not OK I'll just go out one night and film a session. That's not what I wanted to do for a battle; I wanted to do things that I haven't done before. Once I'm moved, I will continue right where I left off and do a nice edit without time constraints.
anyhoo...let me know either way. I'm totally willing to do whatever is best, I just can't develop anything new this week.
I was hoping for you to film but considering the circumstances it would be the most convenient time to bail as I'm sure zoffy will bring it to the plate :)
Ills let ya off the hook with one condition: you must still film a video battle next week that you are proud of. Seeing every one of us progress and push in real time has been a awesome experience and really some pretty cool data :) I can finally sense how quickly my peers progress. Animal is intermediate level now and he's getting better literally and visibly by the day.....and I've felt the same myself.
And it was front wheel...hub....rim...forks....brakes....and my Chase bars got slightly bent forward on the left grip so my stem is at a slight angle to offset it. I despise living leverage in any part of my bike. So yeh now my back is toast.
Luckily I have good friends and rode cracked champagne forks with a bent dropout to boot with a spare front for the past week lol :) friend is bringing a primo n4fl for me today and got oydyssey zero forks the day before.....so its coming back together. Either way being forced to go brakeless has been the best situation for my riding. I'm doing everything I was before with some transitions I thought would take months to learn without brakes! :) also it taught me that my riding is benefited from learning stuff like turbines and transitions over using brakes. It's made my riding faster and usually smoother if I'm not twitchy lol.
Grats on the house! Bought my first place last year. Flatland don't pay no bills but I do it more than I work lol.
are you this much of an asshole in real life? i'm just so sick of your ego and condescending attitude. it's finally pissed me off. please don't tell me what to do, my life is on my own terms. this is not a great time for jokes or whatever it is you were trying to accomplish with that. anyways, I'm out, carry on.
EDIT - jm apologized and this wall of txt was unneccessary.
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I think it was all a misunderstanding, gentlemen... I think what Iriez meant was we're all looking forward to a sick edit from you, JM, once your life is less hectic. I know I'm waiting to see you float that superman steam all the way across the parking lot in your next clip! (with a cape, dude... =). I didn't initially see anything wrong with what Iriez said, but apologies if you took something different from it. Again, I figure one day I'd hope to session with you all at some jam or event, so no funky vibes lurking around would be nice.
BTW.. you guys both kill it, and I kinda feel like the dark horse in the mix, so if anything, I was just hoping to be able to hang with your guys' riding level as opposed to winning anything! lol
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gah. I re-read the post, I think I over reacted, so I appologize for the name calling. this is a stressful time for me, so if I misunderstood the post, that was my bad.
sorry for the drama, I'll step out for awhile and cool off. i don't deserve it, but thank you for the compliments. best of luck guys, I'll catch ya next round.
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gah. I re-read the post, I think I over reacted, so I appologize for the name calling. this is a stressful time for me, so if I misunderstood the post, that was my bad.
sorry for the drama, I'll step out for awhile and cool off. i don't deserve it, but thank you for the compliments. best of luck guys, I'll catch ya next round.
some days just ain't so easy. ;D
i too await that super-steam across the parking lot.
we're all with you dude. :beer: :beer:
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gah. I re-read the post, I think I over reacted, so I appologize for the name calling. this is a stressful time for me, so if I misunderstood the post, that was my bad.
sorry for the drama, I'll step out for awhile and cool off. i don't deserve it, but thank you for the compliments. best of luck guys, I'll catch ya next round.
Cool. Thank you for understanding. I dont want any level of negativity with ANY riders unless they are total jerks, then I just want to avoid them. :beer:
I hope to meet every person I've ever seen ride from this forum and I hope to show everyone that im nothing but a guy that likes to ride and have a sh*tload of fun. My goal in life is to laugh. Seriously. Everything to me is funny. If i can sesh with you guys, throw some sh*t down, and share some laughs? Then as far as im concerned life is as good as it will ever be.
Lalo is the same way I think. He's like the less condescending version of me (meaning on the internet he doesnt come across as a douche like i do) and just likes to hang out, ride, and laugh.
EDIT - I have aspergers. This explains my inability to understand my condescending behavior. Im sorry...i *really* dont intend to act superior.
Zoffy, Im getting my replacement hub today...im going to lace it tonight and ride tomorrow. I rode all day yesterday trying to learn a new transition that I want to be in my run. Its going to make it slightly repetitive but I feel both methods of this link are very worth posting. I should be able to nail it and have the video ready tomorrow night (i do late night/early morning editing lol) as I think I have everything else I want on video.
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good luck! :beer:
and yes, no negativity. I'll keep it positive or not at all from now on.
if I ever get motivated enough to strengthen my core to avoid the horrible pain that the superman steam causes, I'll definitely film some long glides, heck, I'd like to see what it looks like too! haha
Grats on the house! Bought my first place last year. Flatland don't pay no bills but I do it more than I work lol.
same here, I ride more than work as well (lol) and thank you. you would not believe how long and stressful this move has become.
cheers
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Permission to submit a 1:56 final battle edit? I filmed and edited it a while back around the premise that final battle clips were 1:50, and I'm decently satisfied with it as is (won't be enough to win, but won't be too much of an embarrassment I think... lol). I won't have any time to refilm for better angles or shorter footy because the forecast for my next day off is calling for 110 degree Vegas heat (and I'm working a freshmen orientation for half the day anyways). Let me know, Ondo!
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Permission to submit a 1:56 final battle edit? I filmed and edited it a while back around the premise that final battle clips were 1:50, and I'm decently satisfied with it as is (won't be enough to win, but won't be too much of an embarrassment I think... lol). I won't have any time to refilm for better angles or shorter footy because the forecast for my next day off is calling for 110 degree Vegas heat (and I'm working a freshmen orientation for half the day anyways). Let me know, Ondo!
hey, I think I made a mistake somewhere. It should be 1:50sec videos, I don't know why I posted 1.40.
Iriez and Zoffy, the final run limit is 1min 50sec,
sorry for the mistake.
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Just a heads up folks... I tacked on a close-up clip at the end of my video of a trick that I do during my run because I won't have a chance to reshoot and the camera angle/distance was sort of bad. The video is a tiny bit longer because of it, but I put a note in the video to not count the last section as part of my run.
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Just a heads up folks... I tacked on a close-up clip at the end of my video of a trick that I do during my run because I won't have a chance to reshoot and the camera angle/distance was sort of bad. The video is a tiny bit longer because of it, but I put a note in the video to not count the last section as part of my run.
Nah, dont worry about it. I'll make my vid atleast 1:56 to offset anything :P I got a crapload of video, even if it isnt all just me busting sh*t. Im happy to make sure we have a equal experience.
jm: I have a real estate license, and have purchased and helped friends/family refinance. Sometimes I think that process is one of the most stressful processes of your life. When you/me get older, we will realize that its better to just hire someone and pay them more to *handle everything* for you instead of doing a crapton of work yourself. Trust me, a proper attorney of estate can accomplish alot without your designation : )
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Just a heads up folks... I tacked on a close-up clip at the end of my video of a trick that I do during my run because I won't have a chance to reshoot and the camera angle/distance was sort of bad. The video is a tiny bit longer because of it, but I put a note in the video to not count the last section as part of my run.
Nah, dont worry about it. I'll make my vid atleast 1:56 to offset anything :P I got a crapload of video, even if it isnt all just me busting sh*t. Im happy to make sure we have a equal experience.
jm: I have a real estate license, and have purchased and helped friends/family refinance. Sometimes I think that process is one of the most stressful processes of your life. When you/me get older, we will realize that its better to just hire someone and pay them more to *handle everything* for you instead of doing a crapton of work yourself. Trust me, a proper attorney of estate can accomplish alot without your designation : )
Hey Iriez, let me know when your vid is ready to go. Since mine is done already, I wouldn't mind getting the battle going sooner if you wanted to. Peace!
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Just a heads up folks... I tacked on a close-up clip at the end of my video of a trick that I do during my run because I won't have a chance to reshoot and the camera angle/distance was sort of bad. The video is a tiny bit longer because of it, but I put a note in the video to not count the last section as part of my run.
Nah, dont worry about it. I'll make my vid atleast 1:56 to offset anything :P I got a crapload of video, even if it isnt all just me busting sh*t. Im happy to make sure we have a equal experience.
jm: I have a real estate license, and have purchased and helped friends/family refinance. Sometimes I think that process is one of the most stressful processes of your life. When you/me get older, we will realize that its better to just hire someone and pay them more to *handle everything* for you instead of doing a crapton of work yourself. Trust me, a proper attorney of estate can accomplish alot without your designation : )
Hey Iriez, let me know when your vid is ready to go. Since mine is done already, I wouldn't mind getting the battle going sooner if you wanted to. Peace!
I had planned on submitting it tonight, however I did not pull the last link I've been working on today.
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Nailed it :)
Editing video. gonna take a few hours i have a lot of trash to sort through.
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Word up, Iriez! Got your pm... fell asleep like an idiot at 8:00pm and woke up again at 1:23am; now I'm trying to fall back asleep... lol I'll send my clip to Ondo so that I can hurry up and get my a*s whipped in the battle! haha
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Word up, Iriez! Got your pm... fell asleep like an idiot at 8:00pm and woke up again at 1:23am; now I'm trying to fall back asleep... lol I'll send my clip to Ondo so that I can hurry up and get my a*s whipped in the battle! haha
Its 4:30 am and im like 80% done editing and im yawing big time. I think im gonna crash and just wake upa nd finish the rest. Seriosuly....i have been riding so much and so hard that im starting to think its unhealthy, ontop of the fat that I ate sh*t 50 billion times yesterday and today ugh. So tonight i need the rest k? You'll get the vid tomrrow :)
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final battle:
Ultraman Zoffy
Global-Flat Final Battle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPj55KSs-iw#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
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Iriez
Global Flat Int Final Round 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5lZw_FSMhs#lq-lq2-hq-vhq-hd)
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HAHAHA f*ck YEAH! I knew you didn't delete that sh*t! Iriez fukkin threw doooowwwn. Got my vote!
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haha...yea man...when i was editing and i saw it i was like wtfff? I didnt delete it!?!? haha :)
Zoffy that was a awesome video. I loved to see the new stuff from you. That scuff pivot/snap rideout @ 34 seconds was awesome...i enjoy little things like that in flatland. Being able to just snap in our out of certain tricks with style and flow. It means alot to me.
I messed around with whatever it is called that you did at 1:33 ...tough trick!! :)
Oh, and if no one got it the last part was "Invisible dirt trails"...my hub is completely effed and I was pedaling forward without the clutch engaging.I hit a big imaginary dirt jump and did a barspin, lol. I was SOOO happy I finally landed it. The 2-3 attempts right before that I nailed the trick...but did stupid foot taps.
Sorry, im a weirdo and excited :P
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gah. taking a break from packing to check this out. very frustrating not being in this battle...
you guys tore it up! i'm totally motivated by these videos to get back on it HARD next week. see ya in expert class next time!
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Iriez is like Alex Jumeilin now haha.
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I'm voting for Iriez with a caveat.
Good tricks, but I've never seen someone so f*cking arrogant as you. Lay off the booze and self promotion and stick to your tricks. I liked you better when you actually carried yourself with a bit of humility.
I have a new Banger ok tryin to stick that kills the majority of current flatland Bangers that have been landed.
Just. Shut. Up.
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Raised to 50/50. (cool if this was the real outcome).
I liked I's vid for what it is: HIM(Ireiz) + Brakeless
Watched both vid twice.
UZ gets ma vote: Ultraman Zoffy gots the Flow, liked the end part the most...slight experimentation within a tight surrounding.
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This is off shoot: But Dan Henning keeps popping in ma mind...Its like an LSD Flashback(net sarcasm ;D). I don't even know this rider but for some reason I keep thinking about his riding style. Dude has got immense flow(bits of "Kung Fu" Riding style), and that's all I know.
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wooo finals!
diggin that squeaker barflip zoffy. props to you being able to make all of the deadlines under limiting conditions over there :beer: (i'd actually toast if i had a brew in my hand)
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I'm voting for Iriez with a caveat.
I liked you better when you actually carried yourself with a bit of humility.
iries got my vote..
UZ, that weird rideout you've got looks cool..nice work man!
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I would have to vote for Ultraman. He seemed to have more variety. He seemed to me to have mastery over different skills.
Am I off base?
TJ, aren't the judges supposed to give justification as to why they vote for a person? Curious as to why you thought Iriez won?
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First things first... Iriez, your video was dope as all hell and totally reflects the work you said you were putting into it! There's still votes out, but we can sort of see where it's going... I don't really like to comment or talk about my riding much, and I tried to put stuff up against the nose wheelie onslaught I saw coming, but I guess it trumped all my cards! I've got my thoughts on the videos, but I'll leave it in the judges hands now... this whole experience has got me motivated, but I'm bummed because the 100+ heat finally arrived in Vegas (90+ at night! wtf!), so riding and progressing is going to be sparse for a while. Bo from So Cal just rolled into town though and hit me up for a session, so at least I've finally got someone to ride with. I'll keep an eye out for when Iriez is announced the winner ;D
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First things first... Iriez, your video was dope as all hell and totally reflects the work you said you were putting into it! There's still votes out, but we can sort of see where it's going... I don't really like to comment or talk about my riding much, and I tried to put stuff up against the nose wheelie onslaught I saw coming, but I guess it trumped all my cards! I've got my thoughts on the videos, but I'll leave it in the judges hands now... this whole experience has got me motivated, but I'm bummed because the 100+ heat finally arrived in Vegas (90+ at night! wtf!), so riding and progressing is going to be sparse for a while. Bo from So Cal just rolled into town though and hit me up for a session, so at least I've finally got someone to ride with. I'll keep an eye out for when Iriez is announced the winner ;D
What are ya...France now? You just going to throw up the white flag? I think your video holds up well.
Have a great session with Bo!
No offense to the Frenchies. -_-
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I would have to vote for Ultraman. He seemed to have more variety. He seemed to me to have mastery over different skills.
Am I off base?
TJ, aren't the judges supposed to give justification as to why they vote for a person? Curious as to why you thought Iriez won?
Ah my bad.
I think that Iriez beat him out slightly on difficulty. That's not to say what Ultra did wasn't hard because it was, there were just a few things that I thought Iriez did was slightly more difficult. Both repeated tricks and Ultra did have a little more variety, I just thought Iriez's difficulty was a little higher. Not by a ton, but enough to put him over the edge.
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First things first... Iriez, your video was dope as all hell and totally reflects the work you said you were putting into it! There's still votes out, but we can sort of see where it's going... I don't really like to comment or talk about my riding much, and I tried to put stuff up against the nose wheelie onslaught I saw coming, but I guess it trumped all my cards! I've got my thoughts on the videos, but I'll leave it in the judges hands now... this whole experience has got me motivated, but I'm bummed because the 100+ heat finally arrived in Vegas (90+ at night! wtf!), so riding and progressing is going to be sparse for a while. Bo from So Cal just rolled into town though and hit me up for a session, so at least I've finally got someone to ride with. I'll keep an eye out for when Iriez is announced the winner ;D
Zoffy,
Thank you for the appraisal. I felt this contest to be incredibly close due to the different riding styles we exhibit. I thought some of your links were very consistent and executed with not only flowing style, but with technically difficult tricks on some.
Either way, the proper attitude is what tod recommended. I've seen alot of hockey series end up being won by the team that lost the first 2 games :) It happens all the time man, its all random appropriation. Maybe the next 3 will go to you :)
PS - Bo is a great guy. We rode every other day for the past month or so. Im very happy that you are local and that he and you will have someone new to ride with :) I told him the day before he left that the next time we see each other we will be pulling crazy sh*t....I pray this is true :)
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really hard decision. the more I think, the harder it gets.
a lot of variety versus few hard links, but overall variety scored higher in my view. it's similar to the expert final battle, zoffy landed so much different things, it's just difficulty itself.
zoffy had awesome bike control, iriez looked a bit too sketchy and lacked a good finish at the end of links..
my vote goes to ultraman zoffy
great battle!
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really hard decision. the more I think, the harder it gets.
a lot of variety versus few hard links, but overall variety scored higher in my view. it's similar to the expert final battle, zoffy landed so much different things, it's just difficulty itself.
zoffy had awesome bike control, iriez looked a bit too sketchy and lacked a good finish at the end of links..
my vote goes to ultraman zoffy
great battle!
I completely agree with this entire statement except for one part: Variety/style
I watched zoffy's entire run and I saw a equal amount of repetition to my run. We both knew our strong points and we both displayed them. For zoffy, it was mccircles, steams and pinky sqeaks. For me, it was xfooted pedal gturns into mcircles. We both displayed a very similar amount of repetition.
'sketchy' is subjective and related to style. Do you know why i was sketchy? Because 2 of my links I combined 3 different trick sets into one single shot. My attempt was to show that I was a consistent rider that can pull a variety of tricks in one frame shot, instead of 'one clips'.
Either way, im very vocal that 'style' is too subjective to be used as a contest judgement tool. A trick landed is a trick landed. The trick is just as difficult whether you land it with style or sketchy. The process equates to the same amount of difficulty.
Please note I am not objecting your judgement, just trying to share my viewpoints. Please disregard anything that comes across as negative. I really do think that zoffy had a crazy run and that this is very hard to judge as we both threw down some intense and progressive (for us :P ) flatland!! :beer: :beer:
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I don't want to talk about it much, I can just say, it's just like gimnastics not football/soccer, where you score the goal no matter what, it's still a goal. but gimnastics need the execution.. it creates difficulty
and about the consistency- you can just show it, landing the trick perfectly smooth. and after that, there's just the thought: "f*ck, that guy can do that banger few times in a row"
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I don't want to talk about it much, I can just say, it's just like gimnastics not football/soccer, where you score the goal no matter what, it's still a goal. but gimnastics need the execution.. it creates difficulty
Hrm, I wrote a entire post agreeing with you then I realized something:
Gymnastic's actually submit a 'run' to judges and then execute. They receive points based upon whether or not they execute a specific 'run'.
Is that not exactly flatland? We set out to execute a link, and we pull it. We may be judged on style subjectively, but the fact is in the *world olympic judging standards* its a point system based on execution....NOT....style. You either pull your run and get approrpriated a score, or you fail and get judged based on your failed run. I feel this is entirely relevant to our current system.
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The only time you can bring up "sketch" is when two riders pull identical runs and tricks and one clearly does it better than the other. Otherwise this is a flawed outlook on judging and will consistently manifest biased results.
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The only time you can bring up "sketch" is when two riders pull identical runs and tricks and one clearly does it better than the other. Otherwise this is a flawed outlook on judging and will consistently manifest biased results.
Precisely. I think me and you have expressed this opinion several times from different viewpoints.
I posted somewhere that the only way to cohesively appropriate a accurate flatland judgement is to determine a average point based system on the entire tricktionary of flatland, with 'freestyle' based tricks added in subjectively. This would be a lengthy process....but much less lengthy than what is currently used in world olympic sports. If you think these 'ranking' point systems used in the olympics is not crazy crazy well thought through, then you've not watched the judging system :)
Take the floor routine: each contestant submits their floor plan. The tricks on the floor plan are already accounted for rating in the pre-determined 'difficulty' factors. It is then up to the participant to execute said floor plan to the best of their ability.
The point is: The olympics is about showing consistency of skill over 'one moment' captured bangers. Their rating system is based on live professional level replica of skill. I feel that flatland could be judged according to this same concept. The opposite viewpoint is that we should just 'freestyle' and not judge based on static routines.
I would say to that: does not *every single flatlander* live to 'bust a combo' ? We all analyze what tricks we want to do in concession with other tricks. Really...that IS flatland.
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really hard decision. the more I think, the harder it gets.
a lot of variety versus few hard links, but overall variety scored higher in my view. it's similar to the expert final battle, zoffy landed so much different things, it's just difficulty itself.
zoffy had awesome bike control, iriez looked a bit too sketchy and lacked a good finish at the end of links..
my vote goes to ultraman zoffy
great battle!
I completely agree with this entire statement except for one part: Variety/style
I watched zoffy's entire run and I saw a equal amount of repetition to my run. We both knew our strong points and we both displayed them. For zoffy, it was mccircles, steams and pinky sqeaks. For me, it was xfooted pedal gturns into mcircles. We both displayed a very similar amount of repetition.
I was sort of hoping that throwing in a hiker, small whiplash link, and dumptruck to stick b would show that I was comfortable outside of my mccircles, steams, pinkys, and turbiney stuff, but maybe I used that stuff too much anyways? Not sure... I kind of feel like I threw those in and it got looked at like I tossed some front wheel hops in and called it variety! haha.. that stuff took a few tries for me to do I'll have you all know! In any case, I get to see Bo throw down his crazy rolaid links in a few hours, and that's always dope stuff. Hope this all gets sorted out before too much gnarly stuff gets said on the forum again. ;D
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really hard decision. the more I think, the harder it gets.
a lot of variety versus few hard links, but overall variety scored higher in my view. it's similar to the expert final battle, zoffy landed so much different things, it's just difficulty itself.
zoffy had awesome bike control, iriez looked a bit too sketchy and lacked a good finish at the end of links..
my vote goes to ultraman zoffy
great battle!
I completely agree with this entire statement except for one part: Variety/style
I watched zoffy's entire run and I saw a equal amount of repetition to my run. We both knew our strong points and we both displayed them. For zoffy, it was mccircles, steams and pinky sqeaks. For me, it was xfooted pedal gturns into mcircles. We both displayed a very similar amount of repetition.
I was sort of hoping that throwing in a hiker, small whiplash link, and dumptruck to stick b would show that I was comfortable outside of my mccircles, steams, pinkys, and turbiney stuff, but maybe I used that stuff too much anyways? Not sure... I kind of feel like I threw those in and it got looked at like I tossed some front wheel hops in and called it variety! haha.. that stuff took a few tries for me to do I'll have you all know! In any case, I get to see Bo throw down his crazy rolaid links in a few hours, and that's always dope stuff. Hope this all gets sorted out before too much gnarly stuff gets said on the forum again. ;D
Oh Nah man. Absolutely you displayed progressive skill. You threw down really dope sh*t outside of what I've seen you do. I was just pointing out that when it came to repetition we had a equal amount. I thought that considering that its not a viable form of differentation that should be used for judgement. I think exactly what u pointed out is what should be a base for judgement.
In this platform and skill level mostly everyone has seen what we can do. It's the crap we pull that we couldn't before that I feel really emphasizes the point of this contest...progression and marketing of this sport.
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bloody hell its like listening to a bunch of girls talking bout mobile phones or handbags on here sometimes :P
I am not expressing any negativity. I am constructively critisizing a topic that other judges agree with me upon. I believe the issue should be settled for the next round of battles so that the judges are all of the same consensus. I dont believe anything I say or do should persuade any judge to judge differently in regards to this final.
Clear?
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I forgot to put my stickman in my vid lol. I worked on my other video last night its a crap ton of quality. Not specifically flatland but good times. :)
That's cool, I'm all for process after all that's where conceptualism comes into being but we also have keep the Battles(the outcome/manifestation) on track.
You may want to post the vid in Flatland Media Section or General Topic. :mellow:
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my vote goes to iriez for higher difficulty and more variations.
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my vote goes to iriez for higher difficulty and more variations.
(http://www.xbins.org/iriez/OMGZ_I_WINNAR.jpg)
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My vote to Ultaman Zoffy, thought he showed variety, and he didn't have so much just empty time. Iriez has some seriously hard stuff happening, just too little variety and too much riding aroung filling space. No offense. Both guys are KILLIN" it!
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I'm disappointed no one was stoked on the last link. its was extremely progressive for me and I dedicated a mammoth amount of time to learn it for this final. I really want to know if anyone has seen a xfoot pedal gturn hop to opposite peg no scuff in any turning trick. It was vastly more difficult than anything I've ever pulled and entirely original....and brakeless to boot.
I saw Hiro doing this except he didn't cross his feet, which doesn't really matter for that trick.
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My vote to Ultaman Zoffy, thought he showed variety, and he didn't have so much just empty time. Iriez has some seriously hard stuff happening, just too little variety and too much riding aroung filling space. No offense. Both guys are KILLIN" it!
This.
Iriez, we know you have more tricks...and I know you were trying to show your consistency with doing tricks back to back...but for these online battles, you should just throw it down. Use that time to the fullest!
BTW, your progression is awesome.
Just trying to give you some constructive criticism, not trying to flame you. I know you are capable of filling that time up with trick after trick.
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I guess I owe it to everyone to do a post-battle commentary of some sort? lol
My general take on this is that it was sort of like final exams at school: I studied as much as I had time to do, took the test, and earned a couple of votes, but Iriez lived in the library and put in the extra time it took to get an A against my A-. I'm pretty self-conscious about my riding, and I really don't like talking about it much, but apparently Iriez digs his riding a whole lot! (^_^) It was sort of uncomfortable to me to have to read that his brake broke and have it pointed out continuously that "hey, notice I did all my tricks brakeless!" because I couldn't have done that sort of thing in the amount of time I have to ride each week, and I knew he'd get a big difficulty nod because of it. Winning wasn't anything I thought I'd come close to doing, but it obviously meant a lot to my competitor, so for that, I'm stoked for him. I guess my thinking was that even though it was pretty stacked against me and my meager tricks, I at least wanted to go down showing that I have a decent library of tricks that I can do, but ultimately I think that became the problem: I was up against a guy who mastered one really cool concept and variations of it, and it definitely looks better then anything I had time to hit as a combo ride in for these clips (I had some stuff planned but couldn't make it happen over the weekends I rode). My only real take on it is that Iriez has a lot of dope skill and can learn fast, but hopefully he'll branch away from the nollie ride-ins and really get into the other stuff flatland has to offer. When that happens, I'm sure we'll see his true madness shine through on a 20 inch!
In closing, Iriez, you're still a loser because at the end of the day, you eat triscuits voluntarily. Wheat Thins for life, son!
Thanks everyone for the fun times! Ondo, thanks for your effort and for dealing with all the crazy competitors and their drama. (clap clap clap). Bo was telling me about some comp that might be coming up in Ohio some time this year, so if it isn't close to my wedding and I can save up, hopefully I'll get to high-5 you all in person! Peace out!
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I'm disappointed no one was stoked on the last link. its was extremely progressive for me and I dedicated a mammoth amount of time to learn it for this final. I really want to know if anyone has seen a xfoot pedal gturn hop to opposite peg no scuff in any turning trick. It was vastly more difficult than anything I've ever pulled and entirely original....and brakeless to boot.
I saw Hiro doing this except he didn't cross his feet, which doesn't really matter for that trick.
Since it 'dont really matter' for that trick why can I do then with no xfoot super easy? It's a completely different trick. I've seen no names do gturns into mccircles, half hikers, you name it.
You should understand that my weight is 'below' the bike frames toptube...its all on that left pedal and on the opposite side of where I transition. When going from regular you are going from above the top tube. Going down is simple. Using a turbine to throw yourself up and over is not.
I've already done them completely xfooted no scuff with my pedals horizontal and my weight over and centered. It was in my first round video.
In order to do it the last way you literally have to try to hop whip the half lash...otherwise u don't pop up enough to center your weight over the bars to float the transition.
All I can say is you are wrong in this matter and if you try it you will see why. And thanks for responding to my post that I put a ton of time, care, and emotion into responding after taking a sh*t on me. I'm glad you are so empathetical about people other than yourself who are suffering.
Joe: I thought my run was about 107 seconds with all the between taken out? I would have sped those parts forward but I was in a hurry to finish the edit since ondo was going to sleep. I wasn't just 'riding around' I was taking a quick circle breather to hit the next trick lol
Zoffy,
That was a very close battle. Infact it was gore vs bush status! U got the popular vote bro!!!! =) looks like we will be doing this again soon in expert!
I think your post was spot on except for one thing: I cared about winning just not anywhere near as much as u implied. I probably would have been more happy to see u win as u seemed to feel the underdog. I was more excited about showing and seeing progression. Because of my assburgers (lol) I don't know if my constructive criticism sounded like complaining....but it wasn't....on any front. Infact I'm planning on giving back in my own way once these Comps wrap up. Should be fun :)
I have been putting a lot of effort on variation tricks so that I can start to piece my tricks together on a broader spectrum. I don't just do gtursn lol but on a contest front I have to put in the most technicality that i can cauz u have such flow and consistency that I do not with longer links.
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All I can say is you are wrong in this matter and if you try it you will see why. And thanks for responding to my post that I put a ton of time, care, and emotion into responding after taking a sh*t on me. I'm glad you are so empathetical about people other than yourself who are suffering.
You aren't suffering. You've become an arrogant sh*t and I've watched you turn into this over the past few months ever since you got over the thing you were actually "suffering" from.
Go ahead and think that I'm wrong, you're just stroking your own ego on this. I've seen people do it before. I have no reason to make this up. Stop trying to explain the trick to me like I'm an idiot. I know how this trick works because I tinkered with it a long time ago when I first learned inside stuff on the pedal like that. I know how the motions work.
You put in a long thoughtful post, then you go and say how weak terry's whopper how to video was. You acted like you could do better. you acted like you knew what that trick was about when you can't even do it. You're just pouring out little alligator tears so that people feel bad for you or something. If you have any ounce of genuine self reflection going on, you'll stop talking about yourself so damn much.
Christ almighty I was hoping Zoffy would pound you into the ground to give you a little humility so you'd stop acting like you're the best thing since sliced bread but sadly that didn't happen.
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All I can say is you are wrong in this matter and if you try it you will see why. And thanks for responding to my post that I put a ton of time, care, and emotion into responding after taking a sh*t on me. I'm glad you are so empathetical about people other than yourself who are suffering.
You aren't suffering. You've become an arrogant sh*t and I've watched you turn into this over the past few months ever since you got over the thing you were actually "suffering" from.
Go ahead and think that I'm wrong, you're just stroking your own ego on this. I've seen people do it before. I have no reason to make this up. Stop trying to explain the trick to me like I'm an idiot. I know how this trick works because I tinkered with it a long time ago when I first learned inside stuff on the pedal like that. I know how the motions work.
You put in a long thoughtful post, then you go and say how weak terry's whopper how to video was. You acted like you could do better. you acted like you knew what that trick was about when you can't even do it. You're just pouring out little alligator tears so that people feel bad for you or something. If you have any ounce of genuine self reflection going on, you'll stop talking about yourself so damn much.
Christ almighty I was hoping Zoffy would pound you into the ground to give you a little humility so you'd stop acting like you're the best thing since sliced bread but sadly that didn't happen.
Since I respect your opinion even though I dont respect you (your smart, just a arrogant douche), I will correct all my posts to remove the aspects that you feel are not humble. It is not my will or my intentions to be arrogant or an asshole. I've been very VERY frustrated in the past few months because as I am able to literate my thoughts and feelings more clearly lately, it has forced me to 'come out of my shell'. Im very socially inverted when it comes to 'new' environments, but as i warm up to them I tend to show all of my flaws.
The problem is that you guys see me as a comprehensive person, where you need to understand that no matter how hard I try, my lack of ability to comprehend social/emotional context in alot of ways prevents me from being able to determine whether or not my actions could be concluded as 'arrogant' or 'douchey' or 'assholish'.
I understand that you dont believe me. The sad thing is that this has been ground breaking to my life. I've spent the last few days as a zombie because I have had so much sadness and depression about this diagnosis. It explains alot about the problems I have had throughout my life. Literally explains them. I have always done things so inappropriately and I always thought that I just "f*cked up" and had a moment. This diagnosis and the comprehension of the flaws explains *by definition* why i do what I do. It all makes sense now.....and I cannot NOT cry thinking about it. Its so incredibly emotionally frustrating for me and all you are thinking about is how much of a asshole I am.
I had a hour conversation with my mom yesterday about it, and she said that I have been exhibiting my symptoms more predominantly lately. I explained to her that I've been *happier* in the past few months than I have been in a while, despite suffering much hardship. The happier I am, the more vocal I am. The happier I am, the more 'out of the shell' I am, the happier I am, the more I rant and ramble and type/say stuff. Its not just the internet....I exhibit this strongly in real life too....it just took a actual diagnosis and comprehension to understand what I was doing that I never understood before. That and the fact that I am actually proud of my riding makes me more vocal on the subject. This is why you see it more now and not before.
'new' places i hold back on. 'familiar' places i do not. Im extremely inappropriate when around family...but they know me for my flaws and laugh along at my inappropriate jokes instead of negatively reinforcing their opinions like you have Tj. You really are a asshole and you proved it with this and the conversation on aim. I will make a post about it in open talk so that you can see what a douche you really are.
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As I said before, you were not like this 6 months ago, or a year ago. Aspergers is something you have for most of your life and then learn to deal with. It's not something that hits you in your late twenties. If you really had aspergers you wouldn't have held back when that cop stopped you last year. You wouldn't have been fine for months on end talking to me and others. You had plenty of humility up until maybe the last couple of months then boom, all of a sudden you start going on and on about how many bangers you have and how good you are, yet you don't have a problem conversing about anything else? I didn't know you could just get aspergers for JUST riding.
I doubt you'll surprise anyone with how much of a "douche" I am. Good luck with that though.
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Me and animal have been hitting the ground hardddddd every single day. If I lose I could care less.....I'm progressing at maniac speeds. I'm so incredibly pleased with my riding and so stoked on the concept of flatland.
The spot we ride at is amazing. Long beach is dubbed 'the most bicycle friendly city in the world' ...I'm going to make a video of all the people we meet. Some are Hella cool and some are retarded funny. I even pickup girls ;)
woooow. that's sounds inspirational man. good luck!
As im going through and editing all of my posts to remove anything that I believe could be taken out of my intended context, I just wanted to post this and say "This is what I intend, and here is someone who read the intent correctly"
EDIT - Went through entire thread and deleted/removed all the inappropriate posts to the best of my abilities.
Thank you ondo for being a really nice and positive person. Im going to post less so that I do not display my inabilities so harshly. Its affecting me very strongly to learn that what I do comes across so negatively.
Tj: You obviously did not read my post. Try again as I explained exactly what you just asked. You did the same thing on AIM...you've completely ignored that I've continually addressed the subject. You appear to have a inability to understand my conclusions. Im done talking about it with you, or at the least in this thread. The issue should be closed (along with the topic) as the competition is now over.
EDIT - I opened the issue in the appropriate forum: fight club. Good job on claiming that you are better than every other person on this board. Get over yourself. Atleast I can admit im screwed up and continually make mistakes, where you are just god.
Thank you everyone who participated, it was especially humbling to see so much good riding from everyone. I hope that you can share some media in the near future jm as I want to see more from you :) :beer:
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thanks man. no worries; I'll be hard at it making a new edit once I get settled in my new pad here. I'm in the process of developing "my own" style and look forward to putting in the time to make it happen.
One thing bugs me about all these recent posts, Iriez, so I'm just gonna say it--almost daily you say things you later say you shouldn't have said, just couldn't help it. Maybe try reading the posts again a few times before posting up? idk, I'm not trying to judge or knock you down, I'm offering something constructive. It just seems weird to say something totally egotistical, for example, and then come back and reference it basically saying "see what I did there, something is wrong with me". imo, if you are aware of it you can control it. Trust me, I have issues too.
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One thing bugs me about all these recent posts, Iriez, so I'm just gonna say it--almost daily you say things you later say you shouldn't have said, just couldn't help it. Maybe try reading the posts again a few times before posting up? idk, I'm not trying to judge or knock you down, I'm offering something constructive. It just seems weird to say something totally egotistical, for example, and then come back and reference it basically saying "see what I did there, something is wrong with me". imo, if you are aware of it you can control it. Trust me, I have issues too.
^ This is pretty much where I got the impression of "Wow, this guy really wants to win..." lol After a while it was like watching someone on the campaign trail for votes.
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hahaha hmm seems to me like neither of you really was bothered about winning......MUCH! anyway was there a reason to be so bothered about it apart from its the american way what was the prize???
Free trip to England to drink tea with PZA! Put the kettle on...
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zoffy had more variety there for sure.
while iriez had a little more dificulty but less tricks.
i vote zoffy cause it looks on the video he spended much more time learning more tricks.
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zoffy had more variety there for sure.
while iriez had a little more dificulty but less tricks.
i vote zoffy cause it looks on the video he spended much more time learning more tricks.
Thanks for the vote, 13.5! :beer:
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Great riding guys! :beer:
My vote would lean more towards Zoffy as well, a lot more variety. :mellow:
It's just too bad there's so much drama and dribble to cycle through in this thread, thank God for the scroll wheel on my mouse.
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More tricks more variety. Zoffy!
Both were great though.
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SO theres sponsors but no prizes?! so what are the sponsors for then just to promote it? not even a sticker haha tight gets
You know already, the big prize is Motivation & Progression...nothing wrong with getting a trinket or token that will not outlast Riding/Self Development.
FOCUS: ON WITH THE BATTLES!
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SO theres sponsors but no prizes?! so what are the sponsors for then just to promote it? not even a sticker haha tight gets
Team McDuff will have a prize for the winner of each class.
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SO theres sponsors but no prizes?! so what are the sponsors for then just to promote it? not even a sticker haha tight gets
check your info.
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im f*ckin tryin! but you awkward f*ckers are making hard work of it iz there or isnt there? f*ck me
chill bro
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hey jm do yuo know how mad i get when you tell me to chill?
chill
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-> fight club
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Iriez 1st place
Ultraman Zoffy 2nd place
jm 3rd place
CONGRATS!
Iriez, next round to the experts, win those, then to the masters, and a another win there.. :D
I will make the prize list soon! don't have time now.
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Iriez 1st place
Ultraman Zoffy 2nd place
jm 3rd place
CONGRATS!
Iriez, next round to the experts, win those, then to the masters, and a another win there.. :D
I will make the prize list soon! don't have time now.
Thanks ondo. I'm going to try my best but masters might never happen if you guys continue to progress at your rate. I'll never catch up....but maybe some of u might quit :p either way ask me in a few years lol
I wanted to thank everyone. I won't be around much on these boards. I've a severe difficulty to cope with and this whole internet thing I've found to be quite a negative catalyst for my flaws. I've done enough damage to the way I'm perceived....hopefully time and therapy will help me bring it back around. Hope everyone enjoyed the pic.....its ONLY purpose was to make fun of myself at my expense to make you guys laugh. Like most of the stupid sh*t I do that's taken a different way.
Hindsight is a beautiful thing.....wish I had a time machine....
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good stuff guys
congrats to iriez, zoffy, and jm
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Big congrats to Iriez, JM & Ultraman Zoffy!!! :mellow:
Iriez I hope you can work out your demons. :beer:
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Huge accomplishment Iriez! These guys were no joke. Don't let this internet stuff get you down. I personally try not to judge people to harshly based on the stuff they say on the internet because it's so easy for things to come out wrong or to just rattle things off the top of your head like you're thinking out loud, and say stuff you don't quite mean.. internet's just a weird way to communicate, there's no face-to-face, it's all very much in your head and sometimes things that normally would get filtered out slip through. In real life people don't dissect every single damn thing you say like it's a chess match. Anyway stay cool and keep riding! :beer:
[edit] "In real life people don't dissect every single damn thing you say like it's a chess match" Not a slam on anyone btw, we all do this at times, it's hard not to when you have those words laid out like an all you can eat buffet. It's just usually not worth it really.
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congrats to everyone!!!!!!!!!
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Great round guys! Congrats to JM, Iriez, and Ultraman Zoffy. Cheers :beer: