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Title: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: g-man on December 25, 2009, 04:49:52 AM
 I'm going to get flamed for this,, but I really hate looking at these on flat bikes(2 piece street style). I know function before fashion blah blah.

 Are people using them because they don't have the sweep options they would like to try out?
If that's the case, why aren't there more sweep options on flat designed bars.
The options are pretty much similar at F.F. for flat bars, 2up 2back,zero,3.5up3.5back blah blah.

I'm just bitter because I want 2up 5 back MTF T4's and not have to shell out the extra 30$ :P
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: TJ Perry on December 25, 2009, 06:17:12 AM
I had a pair that I got on closeout because I really didn't like how my OG bars felt or looked for that matter. I only ran them a short while before I switched over to Chase bars.

Most people are running 2 piece because a few pros (matthias and raph spring to mind) started running them. I refuse to believe everyone just migrated over to the bar section of dans comp at the same damn time on a whim.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: fxbrgflat on December 25, 2009, 08:02:08 AM
I agree with TJ. Trend whores are following whats done by a few because they dont know how to have their own style. I have run street style 2pc bars for flat before , but only because its what I was used to having. I like my OG bars by the way TJ , thanks again
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Flatism® on December 25, 2009, 10:25:31 AM
nah man, If I could of got hold a pair of Ronin Big E's then I would of rocked those, however no chance!
What else do you do...buy some overpriced, weak, wacky "flatland" bars...nah fook that!
Nothing feels better than a nice set of big juicy 2pc bars.
I dunno, they feel just there! Plus you can bunnyhop better with them.
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Paradoxium on December 25, 2009, 10:28:11 AM
To me all street bars are identicle clones. Ugly clones. They could make them like Suelo butt bars but with street specs and have decent looking bars. Sure the width, height, upsweep and backsweep are whats important, but is it impossible to make them like Suelo bars or St Martin angel bars with the same specs? They may update the retro design in 15 years or so.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: TJ Perry on December 25, 2009, 10:55:55 AM
Street bars are abundant, cheap, strong, tall, wide.  Its only been like a few months that the under 8" bars have pased out

It's been well over a year (the chase bars started popping up in europe this last summer, and the KGB's and other brands have been out even longer) and people have the option of buying a set of flat bars in 8 inch, and yet just now we're seeing the rush to the street style bars? Where were they when the only thing to ride taller were the KGB bars?

There are some dudes who have ridden two piece for as long as I can remember (PMA! stands out) so I don't think it really applies to them, yet I find it really funny that many dudes rocking Chase bars because they were the hip thing when they came out have now moved onto the two piece thing.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: tod miller on December 25, 2009, 01:09:56 PM
Well, back in my day...there were only 2 piece bars...before Forklifters.  So, if I was running 2 piece bars before Matthias and Raph were born, do I still get labeled a "trend whore"?   :P :rolleyes:

Silly topic.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: fxbrgflat on December 25, 2009, 01:57:07 PM
Well, back in my day...there were only 2 piece bars...before Forklifters.  So, if I was running 2 piece bars before Matthias and Raph were born, do I still get labeled a "trend whore"?   :P :rolleyes:

Silly topic.

@ tod :  it wasnt meant towards the older members of the  generation that didnt have options
and even stick to the old school set ups. i too learned and rode with 2 pc bars for a long time on a 21" frame. i moved on to mulit pc bars because of the function offered by  the lower cross bars.  im sure you remember the introduction of the original grave yard bars, and gt 4pc bars too.

im mainly refrring to new riders that assume a part is going to make them ride better because a few of the big name riders run them , sure it may make a few things easier or make for a better ride , but they arent doing it for the functionality ,only the fashion.

Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: tod miller on December 25, 2009, 02:09:37 PM
Well, back in my day...there were only 2 piece bars...before Forklifters.  So, if I was running 2 piece bars before Matthias and Raph were born, do I still get labeled a "trend whore"?   :P :rolleyes:

Silly topic.

@ tod :  it wasnt meant towards the older members of the  generation that didnt have options
and even stick to the old school set ups. i too learned and rode with 2 pc bars for a long time on a 21" frame. i moved on to mulit pc bars because of the function offered by  the lower cross bars.  im sure you remember the introduction of the original grave yard bars, and gt 4pc bars too.

im mainly refrring to new riders that assume a part is going to make them ride better because a few of the big name riders run them , sure it may make a few things easier or make for a better ride , but they arent doing it for the functionality ,only the fashion.



I here you man, I was just being silly myself. 

I myself, am riding the Inertia bars...so not trendy.  They were cheap, and I like that low crossbar and the fact that they are decently wide.  Pretty good bars I think, but they aren't flying off the shelves.

I just say this is a silly topic, because it seems to me that a lot of people are more concerned with what other people are doing all the time.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: fxbrgflat on December 25, 2009, 02:17:30 PM
i think its something were all guilty of at one time or another. in all honesty i miss 2pc bars because of the fact they are generally under $90 and pretty much sold everywhere , if anyone made a good strong (im learning all over again so i can be pretty hard on stuff) 2pc with a pretty low cross bar  under a $100 id ride them if they were in the right size. but until then im on the multiple pc
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Stubbleduck43 on December 25, 2009, 02:29:08 PM
Well, back in my day...there were only 2 piece bars...before Forklifters.  So, if I was running 2 piece bars before Matthias and Raph were born, do I still get labeled a "trend whore"?   :P :rolleyes:

Silly topic.


I hear ya man.  I used to rock those old GT perfomer and Dyno bars way back in the 1900's.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/Biagio/GTProPerfomerbars2ndgen.jpg)

(http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/dyno-pretzel-bars#)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/01/!Bhkj!!w!Wk~$(KGrHqEH-CMEsL!qp43,BLJujPw2Q!~~_3.JPG)

I need to come down to A town and ride with yall.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Stubbleduck43 on December 25, 2009, 02:44:27 PM
I used to dream about having these Woody Itson bars.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/01/!BhmweTQCGk~$(KGrHqYOKiwEsnp6WgBBBLJ7sYM1L!~~_35.JPG)
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: fxbrgflat on December 25, 2009, 03:24:32 PM
if they made these at say 8.25" high and 26-27" wide and 6* bs  minus the wrapping cross bar they'd be perfect. love the height of that cross bar
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: g-man on December 25, 2009, 03:35:26 PM
 I rode Redline Forklifter's as my 1st name brand bars and kneesavers's after that "bitd".

 I just hate the look of big street bars, and I was thinkin about the Mattias thing but didn't want to throw it out there even though I believe that's why lots of people on here are buying them.

I do wish that modern kneesaver designs had better backsweep options. I like the Chase bars
but I'm leary of the upsweep, and when dropping big $$$ you really want to feel confident about the purchase.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: mare on December 25, 2009, 04:07:47 PM
all i have to say about this topic is : im gonna get me 2pc bars (custom made with specs. i want) just cause i like the way they look. and i love to ride a bmx bike not some strange thing wich looks like  some sort of bmx, but its all bended and sh*t.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: tod miller on December 25, 2009, 04:27:10 PM
I rode Redline Forklifter's as my 1st name brand bars and kneesavers's after that "bitd".

 I just hate the look of big street bars, and I was thinkin about the Mattias thing but didn't want to throw it out there even though I believe that's why lots of people on here are buying them.

I do wish that modern kneesaver designs had better backsweep options. I like the Chase bars
but I'm leary of the upsweep, and when dropping big $$$ you really want to feel confident about the purchase.


You mean, these are ugly?  I think there fully functional.

(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae236/todborndead/moellerthumb-225x150.png)
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: g-man on December 25, 2009, 04:34:06 PM
Most of us here buy specific frames that have lots of built in clearance,, it just doesn't make sense to me to throw on big bulky in the way bars.

I like those kind of bars on street bikes, but it makes no sense(to me) to put them on a metro or a R.I.P etc.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: g-man on December 25, 2009, 04:39:55 PM
all i have to say about this topic is : im gonna get me 2pc bars (custom made with specs. i want) just cause i like the way they look. and i love to ride a bmx bike not some strange thing wich looks like  some sort of bmx, but its all bended and sh*t.
4 piece bars have been ridden since the early/mid 80's, so they have a legitimate place in bmx
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: That Joe Miller on December 25, 2009, 05:07:49 PM
I have been running the same pair of Poverty 2pc Bars since 2004. I got them @ the time because they had sweep and were 19.95 !
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Paris13 on December 25, 2009, 05:54:57 PM
I ride 2 piece bars because i'm tired to bent all my  low crossbar flatland specific bars. Street bars are cheaper, stronger, higher, low weight and they have more option of sweep. Sound perfect for me...
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: jerr6 on December 25, 2009, 07:16:02 PM
isnt everything trendy at one piont?
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: katobmx on December 25, 2009, 07:22:50 PM
isnt everything trendy at one piont?
+1
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: laughingmonkey on December 25, 2009, 08:51:01 PM
I posted about this about a month ago and I got slammed for calling it a trend. I came to the same conclusion that Matthias and some other pros have something to do with it.
Right now, I've gotten back into sweep on bars.  I started with KGB electros then Quamen Q bars, both with no sweep.  I couldn't deal with the wrist cramps. Then I got caramel 3's which felt amazing.  I didn't plan on changing them, but I found a used set of custom brickhouse bars with 5 degrees back and 3 upsweep that I had to try. I think I finally found the perfect bars for me. 
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: katobmx on December 25, 2009, 09:09:44 PM
I think the real question is why does flatland need 8-pc bars etc. Speaking of  Matthias look at the switches he and Micheal Sommer do on the front wheel with some street bars too me that just throw the whole "you need more room " idea out the window. why pay double the money for bars that have similiar geometry to street bars when you can't even utilize the flatland design in your riding. See thats the problem we don't need all these gimicky bendy parts to do the tricks we do especially people below the pro level.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: laughingmonkey on December 25, 2009, 09:13:50 PM
where can one buy the sepy bars?
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: JUGGARNAUT on December 25, 2009, 09:17:51 PM
Some of my bikes have 2 pc and some are 4 pc. I like both for diff reasons.Tod ,was right though,all we used to have was 2 pc,then Redline and Haro came along.Kato,I agree with 1/2 of your post too. ;D
Ride what ya like,forget all this "trend" crap ,do what you want.IT'S FREESTYLE!!!!
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: katobmx on December 25, 2009, 09:23:26 PM
Some of my bikes have 2 pc and some are 4 pc. I like both for diff reasons.Tod ,was right though,all we used to have was 2 pc,then Redline and Haro came along.Kato,I agree with 1/2 of your post too. ;D
Ride what ya like,forget all this "trend" crap ,do what you want.IT'S FREESTYLE!!!!
1/2 haha OOH OOH which half  ;D
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: JUGGARNAUT on December 25, 2009, 09:26:20 PM
I think the real question is why does flatland need 8-pc bars etc. Speaking of  Matthias look at the switches he and Micheal Sommer do on the front wheel with some street bars too me that just throw the whole "you need more room " idea out the window. why pay double the money for bars that have similiar geometry to street bars when you can't even utilize the flatland design in your riding.
this part actually ;D
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: katobmx on December 25, 2009, 09:50:00 PM
thanks  :mellow:
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Pat on December 25, 2009, 09:58:47 PM
well i think what the deal is is, sure pretty much anything can be done on taller/less roomy street bars, but it is much easier to do with bars with more clearance, such as 8 piece bars. if your pro like sommer or those others guys, you dont need the extra room, but for noobs like me it really helps  :mellow:
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: TJ Perry on December 25, 2009, 10:28:18 PM
where can one buy the sepy bars?

I would rock these in an instant.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: random-dude on December 25, 2009, 11:26:46 PM
I don't care what other people ride.

I used to.

But then I got over it.

I eventually figured out that me ranting at fashion kids about function is a waste of time.  I'm old, they're young, and in some of their minds that means my opinion is redundant, no matter how much sense it makes.  If Hoang Tran can barspin 28" bars, then there's nothing wrong with 28" bars; and no amount of me explaining the geometry and mechanics of how a barspin works is going to get any of them to cut anything off their bars... well, not until Mr. Next-Big-Thing shows up with a set of 24 inch bars and starts a new trend.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: jm on December 26, 2009, 02:31:23 AM
2 piece flatland bars aren't really trendy at all; they look like the other 95% of bmx bars out there.
It's part of mainstreaming the "look" of flatland in my opinion.

The tricks are starting to stand out more than the bikes. I support that! Personally, I'm starting to get burned out on the look of super flashy, over designed, meticulously color-coordinated bikes.   To me it's like a chef with neon-lit knives. too much...

Blades cut, bikes ride.
2 piece is straight to the point.

Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: g-man on December 26, 2009, 02:46:29 AM
Hey, if you dont need the clearance because your skills are that honed thats cool.

This post wasn't about hating on 2 piece in general,,, it was about BIG 2piece bars where the U in the bar is so wide that you bang up your legs on it. Like I said Big 2 piece bars look dumb on skinny frames with lots of clearance.

It has nothing to do with over design or flashyness because to me a kneesaver 4 piece design if very functional to my riding ability.

Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Aeons of Flat on December 26, 2009, 02:47:28 AM
I am just about to switch over to some heartbreaker bars for a change, anyone know much on them?
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: TJ Perry on December 26, 2009, 06:11:34 AM
All of the pro arguments for the two piece design are the same ones that Nev used to make about Ronin bars. Not saying that's a bad thing, it's just funny that it has come full circle. Again. And again.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: lamehead on December 26, 2009, 06:30:46 AM
Switched from 4pc to 2pc b/c my wrists weer killing me from riding street. 2 pc have a little more flex in them (or thats what i think) so I switched. I haven't had as many wrist problems since then, that was 2006.

I probably will switch to big bars soon to see if that helps me with back issues (I do go to a chriopracter). I haven't switched yet b/c I really despise wide crossbars.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: EZChris on December 26, 2009, 04:15:24 PM
A good few years ago when Fly Bikes were putting out flat stuff still under the Flybikes name they made an AWESOME 2pc flatland bar.


Perfect backsweep, and the bends were tight so there was still lots of room.

wish someone would remake those!
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: lamehead on December 26, 2009, 04:53:21 PM
you mean the suelo bars that are actually 2pc? Those are the ones I am running.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: EZChris on December 26, 2009, 06:09:35 PM
you mean the suelo bars that are actually 2pc? Those are the ones I am running.

They might be the same bar I guess, but the ones I had were under the FlyBikes brand - I cant remember if they called them Gomez bars (as it was the same time he was on the time) or Suelo bars.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Furball on December 26, 2009, 06:20:48 PM
you mean the suelo bars that are actually 2pc? Those are the ones I am running.


They might be the same bar I guess, but the ones I had were under the FlyBikes brand - I cant remember if they called them Gomez bars (as it was the same time he was on the time) or Suelo bars.

The name of those bars are Fly Bikes "Suelo Alto" (alto = high), and Fly Bikes "Suelo Bajo" (bajo = low).

(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3375/flybikessueloaltotopand.jpg)

7.5" (Suelo Alto), 6.7" (Suelo Bajo), 5° backsweep, 0°upsweep.

Fly Bikes Suelo Alto
http://www.global-flat.com/parts/part/480 (http://www.global-flat.com/parts/part/480)


Fly Bikes Suelo Alto & Bajo
http://www.global-flat.com/parts/part/493 (http://www.global-flat.com/parts/part/493)
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Rad255 on December 26, 2009, 06:21:46 PM
I love the feel of four piece bars. I've been riding Animal Bob bars since forever. I've changed back and forth between other bars just to try them, but I just love the feel of four piece bars. I cut a inch off each side and they're money. I'm psyched to try Chad Degroot's Deco bars when they come out, 2 piece with a four piece feel supposedly.

Back on topic. Two piece bars are awesome just because I can go over to Dan's and buy them for usually a third or half the price of any flatland specific bar. Not only that but they're also one of the few parts that you can get from your "regular" bmx friends hahaha.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: katobmx on December 26, 2009, 07:02:42 PM
oh and I'd like to add anybody can ride and buy what you want. I don't have to tell you that haha ^_^
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Ultraman Zoffy on December 26, 2009, 07:18:58 PM
So do folks running 2 piece bars have to defend themselves now due to this thread? I'm currently running 7.5" Shadow Anti-Sweep bars that I found online for $40. I looked them up because most "flatland" bars at that height were easily $30 to $50 bucks more and in most cases heavier. I wanted to try out the taller bars, and I also thought I'd go back to 2-piece to see if it helped problems with my elbows that I started having. I say "go back" because 5 or so years ago I swore by 2-piece bars in the form of Odyssey Milk Bars. I'd have liked to find some old Ronin bars instead of the Shadow's, but no luck with that, so now I'm running "street" bars. And they feel pretty nice btw.

What I don't get is would it even be called out as a "trend" if the 2 piece bars in question were put out by a flatland company and labeled "flatland bars"? Why care so much about "street" or "flatland" anyways? Maybe the real issue is how threads like this are indicative of how flatland has seperated itself so far from bmx in general that "non-flatland" companies want very little to do with it? All I know is that if I show up to a jam or session with my setup and I get funky vibes for it, then I'll get my "f*ck you's" out of the way early by posting them here.  ;D
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Gensanity on December 26, 2009, 08:02:10 PM
I think 2 piece bar popularity also rose along w/ the recent release of more simple, straight tube frames.  I'm sure pros had some influence on them too.

But as much as I hate on some trends if you think about it, honestly, nothing would ever progress and change if it weren't for trends.  Everything would just stay the same.
If people really were getting 2 piece bars for the need of something bigger maybe this would influence flat companies to make taller/wider bars as well.

I wonder if there are any pure street riders that ride flat bars...

Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: TJ Perry on December 26, 2009, 08:13:13 PM
I never said it was bad or anything, I just think it's funny that once pros started running 2 piece bars everyone fell in line and the two piece bar set ups started popping up again. Just an odd coink-e-dink.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: ancientskool on December 26, 2009, 08:20:14 PM
I don't think it's a coincidence either.  If people want to run 2 pieces, then that's cool with me.

I just don't understand why you'd want to, unless it's just a price/availability thing, and I'm pretty sure the "pros" aren't doing it for this reason.

 4 piece bars stay our of the way of knees a lot easier than 2 piece.  The wide bottoms of 2 pieces really do get in the way a lot of times.

Maybe it's that people don't want street/ramp/dirt riders to look at them funny, and figure it's easier to do with a straight tube bike and 2 piece bars. :lol
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: EZChris on December 26, 2009, 08:54:54 PM
Furbalz post


Yup those are the ones. Well done. They rode quite well indeed.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: kabirun on December 26, 2009, 09:15:54 PM
I had a pair that I got on closeout because I really didn't like how my OG bars felt or looked for that matter. I only ran them a short while before I switched over to Chase bars.

Most people are running 2 piece because a few pros (matthias and raph spring to mind) started running them. I refuse to believe everyone just migrated over to the bar section of dans comp at the same damn time on a whim.

i had too many bars, including some of the most pimpish multipiece ones. but none of these bars have ever given me the same feeling as the 2-piece dragonfly daytonas. I wish they made a new lighter version of them. my motives are pure.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: katobmx on December 26, 2009, 09:25:57 PM
I never said it was bad or anything, I just think it's funny that once pros started running 2 piece bars everyone fell in line and the two piece bar set ups started popping up again. Just an odd coink-e-dink.
yah i dont think u meant any harm.  Your one of the people that started riding 2-pc bars not too long ago  ^_^. i wish i had some change to buy some 2-pc bars myself.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Luis Elías on December 26, 2009, 09:38:31 PM
I never said it was bad or anything, I just think it's funny that once pros started running 2 piece bars everyone fell in line and the two piece bar set ups started popping up again. Just an odd coink-e-dink.


I agree with you in this one  :rolleyes:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Sportinlife/bike056-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Sportinlife/bike057-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Sportinlife/l_0d15725fc9874b72a047ce724c270cba.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Sportinlife/bike060-1.jpg)
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: SNOOP on December 26, 2009, 10:00:20 PM
For what its worth the Kunfu pics are almost if not a year old, i own that white wheel now and have had it for..man 7/8 months now.

I say run what you want. Some builds just scream throw some 2 pieces on, while some just want to find out if they like sweep or type of flavor there sweep should be. Sure the pro's rock 2 piece bars and what not...But maybe thats more so on a level of " look..were gonna do it on the basic of the basic of looking equipment. Get the vision out there to these kids that it is possible to practice,learn, and build a good base of tricks...WITHOUT having the most baller FLATLAND SPECIFIC bike in the world." It bothers me..that..It bothers you guys what someone else rides, or there logic behind why they ride it. If you likem rockem..If not..dont. Ive said it before and ill say it again..who gives a f*ck.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Luis Elías on December 26, 2009, 10:03:10 PM
If you likem rockem..If not..dont. Ive said it before and ill say it again..who gives a f*ck.

Yep  :beer:
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: katobmx on December 26, 2009, 10:09:03 PM
. Get the vision out there to these kids that it is possible to practice,learn, and build a good base of tricks...WITHOUT having the most baller FLATLAND SPECIFIC bike in the world."
Most people with the most baller bikes are people with money ima kid and broke hahaha. Moat people that are frame whorin etc have real jobs and therefore have the money to do so, and I'm not knockin them. But, I do understand that the Post your bikes thread is a huge deterant for newbies that are rollin aroound on a next or mongoose.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: SNOOP on December 26, 2009, 10:14:20 PM
Should be an initiative to get out..Get your job/hussle on. I had "baller" status bikes when i was young..through lots of hard work and dedication to MY "sport." Younguns..Your the ones with all the time on your hands, but it is up to YOU to make the best..of your time.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: TJ Perry on December 26, 2009, 11:09:54 PM
I never said it was bad or anything, I just think it's funny that once pros started running 2 piece bars everyone fell in line and the two piece bar set ups started popping up again. Just an odd coink-e-dink.


I agree with you in this one  :rolleyes:



You do realize that I ran those before matthias, raph, or the vast majority of the dudes running them now right, and that I put them on my bike last winter and the trend started over the summer until now... Right?

Like I said, go back to buying the latest and greatest, kind of like how when everyone else started doing it, you traded in your shiny new Chase bars for what you're running now... which I'm sure will change at the first sign of shifting fashions.

edit: Ah yes pot calling the kettle black haha

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m207/eliasbiker/P1060352.jpg)

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m207/eliasbiker/P1060283.jpg)
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Pralex on December 26, 2009, 11:26:00 PM
I never said it was bad or anything, I just think it's funny that once pros started running 2 piece bars everyone fell in line and the two piece bar set ups started popping up again. Just an odd coink-e-dink.

I agree with you in this one  :rolleyes:

Ooooooh, you got TJ good.  He probably had no idea that he ran 2 piece bars until you pointed it out.  Kudos.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: random-dude on December 26, 2009, 11:48:14 PM
So...

what you guys are saying is that by choosing to ride flat on a full on street ride with straight tubes and big barz I'm actually being trendy?
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: TJ Perry on December 26, 2009, 11:49:48 PM
So...

what you guys are saying is that by choosing to ride flat on a full on street ride with straight tubes and big barz I'm actually being trendy?


I dunno what pro has the prettiest bike right now in flat that rides a street frame?
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: flem on December 27, 2009, 12:12:41 AM

 If you likem rockem..If not..dont. Ive said it before and ill say it again..who gives a f*ck.

+10
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: random-dude on December 27, 2009, 12:13:20 AM

I dunno what pro has the prettiest bike right now in flat that rides a street frame?

Only one I've heard of is James Smith.  He rides for WTP but isn't on their pro team.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Adam DiClaudio/Austin Flat Crew on December 27, 2009, 12:21:03 AM
2 piece street style bars are good for:

A. having a really high crossbar to make it a little easier to step over.

B. getting your knees banged up on bar tubes sticking out from the stem in an outward direction rather than upward. (while your loving plastic man combos)

C. giving your arthritis an extra jump start for future years of your life. (While typing push together the insides of your wrists and keep typing)

D. confusing the street riders at contests when they mistakenly pick up the wrong bike.

E. looking a little more like the Genre of BMX riders who are doing well in exposure. (If we don't have alien looking flatland bars maybe we'll look more...well... not like aliens)

Just being silly... I'm sure it will fade away when some big name rider switches it up again.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: ancientskool on December 27, 2009, 12:44:23 AM
Everyone should switch to 2 piece now and get rid of the old trendy bars.

I'll help things out a bit...I'll buy a pair of Chase bars (hardly used, I'm sure) off of anyone wanting to go to 2 piece, since everyone knows you need 2 piece to do the latest tricks.

OKAY?
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Luis Elías on December 27, 2009, 02:34:25 AM
I never said it was bad or anything, I just think it's funny that once pros started running 2 piece bars everyone fell in line and the two piece bar set ups started popping up again. Just an odd coink-e-dink.

I agree with you in this one  :rolleyes:


You do realize that I ran those before matthias, raph, or the vast majority of the dudes running them now right, and that I put them on my bike last winter and the trend started over the summer until now... Right?


LIE! Matthias had 2 piece bars before you. Then you got them...with the same light blue girps  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: TJ Perry on December 27, 2009, 03:08:02 AM
LIE! Matthias had 2 piece bars before you. Then you got them...with the same light blue girps  :rolleyes:

What? The first time I saw him on two piece bars was around the time of that matthias and adam 1.5 video, which came out at the end of summer I believe. You're literally like the last person on earth who should be making the accusation that I somehow copy that dude.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: SFV_BOY on December 27, 2009, 03:23:36 AM
LIE! Matthias had 2 piece bars before you. Then you got them...with the same light blue girps  :rolleyes:

What? The first time I saw him on two piece bars was around the time of that matthias and adam 1.5 video, which came out at the end of summer I believe. You're literally like the last person on earth who should be making the accusation that I somehow copy that dude.

not taking sides or anything but matthias did have his 2-piece bars be4 that... he was rockin em on his blue slim fit proto...

but i think this topics kinda dumb.... sooo peace! ima go ride!
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: jazzman on December 27, 2009, 03:29:34 AM
LIE! Matthias had 2 piece bars before you. Then you got them...with the same light blue girps  :rolleyes:

What? The first time I saw him on two piece bars was around the time of that matthias and adam 1.5 video, which came out at the end of summer I believe. You're literally like the last person on earth who should be making the accusation that I somehow copy that dude.
I tried street bars for awhile... first off, they look stupid with a high seatpost, and for me the sweep was too much!  The ares bars look fun, or even the fly bars... but I love the bars I am riding and will continue riding them!

I think there was a picture of Matt D riding his bike with street bars because I am sure his chase bars had broken... IDK?
I think from observing this forum, TJ did have street trendy bars before the trend was hip.  But I really do not care... it is a bike.

 :beer:
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: TJ Perry on December 27, 2009, 03:33:03 AM
not taking sides or anything but matthias did have his 2-piece bars be4 that... he was rockin em on his blue slim fit proto...


If that's the case than it's news to me. I couldn't get the Chase bars through the shop I order parts at so I got those easterns on closeout since they didn't have much sweep compared to most street bars and were 8 inches high.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Luis Elías on December 27, 2009, 03:38:57 AM
LIE! Matthias had 2 piece bars before you. Then you got them...with the same light blue girps  :rolleyes:


What? The first time I saw him on two piece bars was around the time of that matthias and adam 1.5 video, which came out at the end of summer I believe. You're literally like the last person on earth who should be making the accusation that I somehow copy that dude.


not taking sides or anything but matthias did have his 2-piece bars be4 that... he was rockin em on his blue slim fit proto...

but i think this topics kinda dumb.... sooo peace! ima go ride!


You mean this?  :rolleyes:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Sportinlife/bike035.jpg)

(http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23840.0;attach=18141;image)
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: TJ Perry on December 27, 2009, 03:45:17 AM

You mean this?  :rolleyes:

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Sportinlife/bike035.jpg[/url])

([url]http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23840.0;attach=18141;image[/url])


Like I said, I hadn't seen him running 2 piece bars until later in the summer. Everything else was those OG bars, the chase bars, or those weird ABT bars he and Uuchie rode.

I wasn't riding like him. I wasn't doing his tricks. I wasn't riding even a remotely similar set up aside from the seat which I cut for trying whiplashes, and the bars which I had no idea that he was running. If you're going to call me a clone then you should just come right out and say it, because I have about 4 years worth of video footage to back myself up with where as you have a very expensive unridden bike with little to no wear on it.

Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Luis Elías on December 27, 2009, 03:51:11 AM
Yeah, whatever. You said you hadn't seen that bike...that's pretty much unbelievable considering that you have almost 4000 posts on this site. Give up dude, you did copy him.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: TJ Perry on December 27, 2009, 03:54:52 AM
Yeah, whatever. You said you hadn't seen that bike...that's pretty much unbelievable considering that you have almost 4000 posts on this site. Give up dude, you did copy him.

I hadn't. I have no reason or desire to copy him. Unlike you, I don't have to make myself feel better with new parts to make up for my lack of tricks on a bike. I actually go ride and progress.

I can sling sh*t all day with you old man and at the end of the day all you'll have is your pretty spotless bike and no tricks and I'll have my tricks and the confidence in knowing I didn't need to buy my way into getting them.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: moose on December 27, 2009, 04:19:15 AM
knowing I didn't need to buy my way into getting them.
:huh:  you can do this????   that's way easier than practicing :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: TJ Perry on December 27, 2009, 04:20:55 AM
:huh:  you can do this????   that's way easier than practicing :rolleyes:


Well quite a few people on here seem to think so.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: katobmx on December 27, 2009, 04:49:38 AM
TJ your builds really made me like the KunFu  :mellow:. you guys are like little kids though. TJ aren't you in your 20 Luis in his 30's  ^_^. It's the internet you dont have to explain yourself hahahaha
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: thestraw on December 27, 2009, 04:52:43 AM
funny how mathias didn't have two piece bars until he met dane earlier this year...
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: TJ Perry on December 27, 2009, 06:04:40 AM
funny how mathias didn't have two piece bars until he met dane earlier this year...

Dane is a stylecat. He makes norse look good.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: JUGGARNAUT on December 27, 2009, 06:05:08 AM
G, it's officially over! Jesus........I ride 1pc on my Choppers .C'mon guys??????????
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Luis Elías on December 27, 2009, 06:23:12 AM
Yeah, whatever. You said you hadn't seen that bike...that's pretty much unbelievable considering that you have almost 4000 posts on this site. Give up dude, you did copy him.

I hadn't. I have no reason or desire to copy him. Unlike you, I don't have to make myself feel better with new parts to make up for my lack of tricks on a bike. I actually go ride and progress.

I can sling sh*t all day with you old man and at the end of the day all you'll have is your pretty spotless bike and no tricks and I'll have my tricks and the confidence in knowing I didn't need to buy my way into getting them.

Old man? Geez I'm 24! And I'm not talking about tricks, I'm talking about you copying Matthias' bars and grips. But hey, I'm just having fun here  ^_^. I just laught at the fact that you think you're never wrong.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: TJ Perry on December 27, 2009, 06:29:05 AM
And I'm laughing at the fact that you think you have the clout to accuse me of pretty much anything regarding copying or trend whoring.

Go shop for brake levers and put some purpose back into your life. Yours has a scratch that I know is just making you CRAZY right now.  :wub:
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Luis Elías on December 27, 2009, 06:31:39 AM
And I'm laughing at the fact that you think you have the clout to accuse me of pretty much anything regarding copying or trend whoring.

Go shop for brake levers and put some purpose back into your life. Yours has a scratch that I know is just making you CRAZY right now.  :wub:

LOL  ^_^
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Esteban Leon on December 27, 2009, 06:51:14 AM
I just have to say that Elias is right... once a pro does something the followers go and do it, thats something that cant happen, I heard once "let your originality define your individuality" so I think it should be applied at any aspect of our lifestyle...
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: TGK on December 27, 2009, 07:53:27 AM
(;,
How do you "buy" flatland?

I don't understand?


This is one reason that flat will always inspire me to ride, because it CAN NOT be bought, it HAS TO BE earned.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: TGK on December 27, 2009, 07:55:26 AM
That question was directed towards TJ.  Sorry,
=)
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Pat on December 27, 2009, 08:02:46 AM
Luis Elias that was some of the most successful attempts at trolling i have ever seen  :mellow:

^^spelling and grammar?  ;D

Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Pat on December 27, 2009, 08:04:27 AM
im not gonna lie i was very entertained by reading this  -_- please dont take this to pm's
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: katobmx on December 27, 2009, 08:09:06 AM
im not gonna lie i was very entertained by reading this  -_- please dont take this to pm's
can't a couple have some privacy geez
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: TJ Perry on December 27, 2009, 08:16:11 AM
(;,
How do you "buy" flatland?

I don't understand?


This is one reason that flat will always inspire me to ride, because it CAN NOT be bought, it HAS TO BE earned.

That's pretty much my point. A pretty bike doesn't make anyone a good rider however I see plenty of people trying to buy their way through to new tricks and skills. Homeboy here hasn't quite learned that.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: TGK on December 27, 2009, 08:32:02 AM
I can see your point TJ, and for the record I have had some of the best, most consistent , progressive sessions with my bike sounding like it is a piece of glass about to shatter.  I am sure there are several on here as well. 


 There comes a point where no matter what you ride as long as it is functional (to your riding ) that parts,colors, and everything else is swept of the table , and thrown out the window, and the only 2 things left at  the end of the day are the rider and the tricks. 


Luis, if you use this mind set next time you head out for a session, it just may help(?)


Take care, and keep riding and progressing
=)
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: mare on December 27, 2009, 10:55:23 AM
and all that sh*t just because smn asked why ppl r running 2pc bars on flat bikes? man i just cant believe what is going on here... ppl go out and ride your bikes and leave all that debates for some jams or contest where u can talk about all that face to face :beer:
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: EZChris on December 27, 2009, 12:29:32 PM
I love how this turnt from a slightly intellectual, observational discussion on the current trends to the standard TJ defending himself thing.


I think alot of people are scared of the word "trend" - people see it as a derogatory word whereas at times all it is, is a word to describe current similarities in a market or demographic.

Saying the word "trend" round here is like shouting bomb in an airport I swear.
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: kunstform?! on December 27, 2009, 12:37:52 PM
This was the beginning of the new 2piece trend...but for shure 2piece allways was there...

http://freedombmx.de/cgi-bin/adframe/artikel/article.html?ADFRAME_MCMS_ID=16207&id=1234268616622141757017085 (http://freedombmx.de/cgi-bin/adframe/artikel/article.html?ADFRAME_MCMS_ID=16207&id=1234268616622141757017085)
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Furball on December 27, 2009, 12:57:45 PM
G, it's officially over! Jesus........I ride 1pc on my Choppers .C'mon guys??????????
Trend whore! :wacko:
Title: Re: 2 piece bar trend over yet??
Post by: Nails on December 27, 2009, 01:55:51 PM
Im pretty sure that almost everyone buys for functinality. My logic says that if someone rides a certain set of bars, then there must be a reason that they like them. If somone rides a lot of back wheel and I want to learn to ride back wheel then I might look at their bars and buy some.
You are only buying them because because the pros are riding them, but its not a fasion statement. If anything is a subtle form of comercalism.

Whats the point of sponsoring anyone if noone is going to look at them and buy your parts?