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Title: Headset race install HELP
Post by: ollie on October 06, 2009, 06:47:38 PM
Hi!

      I run my integrated headset without a headset cup/race at the bottom and I think that's because my headset plays a lot, and if a tighten it my bars can't spin at all.
      
      I have a Khe Tanaka 2007 and a Khe Paris 1 frame. However my bearing at the bottom doesn't hit the bottom of the fork, because the tanaka has a little pyramid form and it holds it, that's why i thought i don't need that race.

     I asked Pat to inform me what's wrong and he was really helpful. He said I need that race but only a bike shop can install it... Yeah I tried and it seems this needs unbelievable power to force it to the bottom!

So two questions: Do I really need that cup, and can I install it at home?


Thanks for your input!
Title: Re: Headset race install HELP
Post by: Paradoxium on October 07, 2009, 12:13:03 AM
You need that cup (fork race). Sometimes the race wont go on without a little filing. It needs to be tight, but not so tight it needs a press to install.


(http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00JMYQpcdqnHkLM/Electroplated-Diamond-Hand-File-BF-C20-.jpg)
Title: Re: Headset race install HELP
Post by: Levi on October 07, 2009, 09:09:46 AM
I allways use the tube from our vacuum cleaner to get those races on. fits nicely over the steerer tube  ;D

Don't tell my GF  :wub:
Title: Re: Headset race install HELP
Post by: ollie on October 07, 2009, 01:02:56 PM
I allways use the tube from our vacuum cleaner to get those races on. fits nicely over the steerer tube  ;D

Don't tell my GF  :wub:


haha! awesome idea! thanks
Title: Re: Headset race install HELP
Post by: Evil_Lincoln on October 29, 2009, 08:40:34 PM
The Eastern headset on flatlandfuel has a race that's split.  You can put it on and remove it with your bare hands.  Cane Creek also has split races with some of their headsets. 
Title: Re: Headset race install HELP
Post by: Stubbleduck43 on October 29, 2009, 11:42:14 PM
Here's what I do when installing bearing races on forks.  I just put the race on and get a 1 1/8 bearing cup and turn it upside down where the part of the cup that goes into a regular headtube is sitting directly on the race.  Then just tap it down with a hammer a few times on one side and tap down on the other side.  It seems to work well.
Title: Re: Headset race install HELP
Post by: Evil_Lincoln on October 29, 2009, 11:51:33 PM
Just found this at Dans Comp...

http://www.danscomp.com/309202.php?cat=PARTS (http://www.danscomp.com/309202.php?cat=PARTS)

No tools, no pounding, no screwing up your vacuum cleaner attachments!  :beer:
Title: Re: Headset race install HELP
Post by: TOflat on December 08, 2009, 06:09:47 PM
The Eastern headset on flatlandfuel has a race that's split.  You can put it on and remove it with your bare hands.  Cane Creek also has split races with some of their headsets. 

A split race is a flawed design. Once is edges out when you have it down, the circular race is no longer a circle. It is transformed very wuickly into an oval with a flat spot which doesnt center your bottom set of bearings correctly.

Get a big tube and smash it.
Title: Re: Headset race install HELP
Post by: oldmanjoe on January 20, 2011, 12:24:38 AM
There is a special tool for this.

My LBS sees me enough so I asked him to do it, and he did it for me in 2 min, for free. I think I owe him a beer or something.
Title: Re: Headset race install HELP
Post by: jawn on July 24, 2011, 10:31:39 AM
If the headset is sealed, just cut a slit in the race, then it can be fit and removed without any force whatsoever
Title: Re: Headset race install HELP
Post by: pwh4130 on November 02, 2011, 10:32:16 PM
Guys, don't forget grease when you install.