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English => Flatland Media => Online Video Battles => Topic started by: ondo on July 08, 2009, 09:19:42 PM

Title: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group. OVER. Winner- Luke
Post by: ondo on July 08, 2009, 09:19:42 PM
Experts:

Luke 1st
ondo 2nd
franflat 3rd
ivan-flaterOS 4th

Pinoski
spix
flaTTech
blind

misterpola
paved_paradise
Alexis
Ovidiu M (the_ripper)
Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW)
Koshtrik
råbe
kikouluasv

Some basic rules:
1)I announce the first battle between 2 riders. From the moment there is a 4 day limit for those two riders to film and send the video links via PM to me! This rule is just for fairness, it's nothing if you post it in the battle thread. When both riders have sent me links- I post them in the first and the last post of their group!
2)The video can be edited or unedited, but must be maximum 45 seconds long. When the first battle series in each group are over(8 battles), then the next round adds +15 seconds. So the lenght in series are:
- First 8 battles= 45 sec
- Quarterfinals= 1 min
- Semifinals= 1 min 15 sec
- Finals= 1min 30 sec
This is the maximum of video lenght- you don't have to fill it up compulsory.
3)The run can consist of combos or just tricks, but if edited, they should be with ride ins and outs.
4)For each battle your run must be different.
5)It is forbidden to use old, before filmed videos.
New rules about the video lenght.
1)A subjective point, but I can "allow" the rider to finish his combo and do the ride out if it goes just <10 seconds more.
2)So then there is a question, which combo can be longer?
- The combo which is started not later than 15 seconds before the end of the run.
3) It is hard to tell, if the run is too long, because, it can really contain small tricks in the beggining and the long one combo is pressed in the end, to gain extra time. That will be not allowed too.
For example: If you got two combos: 26 and 32 seconds long. If you put them together in that order, then you get 58 sec and the combo did start 15 sec before the end(as mentioned before), but the main rule wich corrects it all: If your run is over time limit, it is allowed only then, IF THE LONGEST COMBO IS IN THE BEGINNING!
I'll check every video and I'll be critical about the use of extra time!
4)If the video contains title(something meaningful), the video can be longer as the title lenght
5) If the rider can pull a combo for all his given time in run, my judgement on the time allowed will be subjective and slightly positive on allowing using the extra time.
So what is the solution?
- First off, if some rules are disobeyed, I'll ask to correctly repost the video(if only the 4 day period is still active). If not, the rider can be disqualified.
- There is another solution. If you don't want to repost the video, you can still proceed with the battle, but if you surpass the time limit unpermitted, then you'll recieve voting "fines".
For the time amount you overspend, you'll pay with votes.
<5 sec -10% votes
<10 sec -20%
<15 sec -30%
<20 sec -40%
and so on.
6)After both rider videos are posted or the 4day period is over- voting starts. Others watch both videos and vote.
7)Voting is active for 2days. The rider who recieves the most votes in 2days- winner.
8)You can vote just for one rider in a battle just once. Keep in mind it's subjective, but try to be objective a bit. Stick to these principles:
a) bike control
b) originality
c) difficulty
9)As voting has finished, the winner of the battle is announced.
10) The winner countinues to fight in the finals(if they are). The looser fails. (There could be some additional battles later)
11)The next battle starts after the previous battle ends.
12)Remember to check out all of the gruops and vote, because one battle will happen in each class simultaneously
13)Some changes into limits or structure can occur.
14) The winners will recieve prizes (not known for the moment)
15) Questions please in the main signing up thread!
16) If you are busy, please let me know I can arrange your battles. The list of those who are busy is in the signing up thread!


Congrats! Expert battles are over! Winner is Luke! In a close battle with votes 40 : 36.

1st Luke (2 khe tires)

2nd ondo (flat kings book)

3rd franflat (diversion dvd)

Thanks everyone for watching, voting and participating! This competition was much smoother than the previous.
Keep the battles going. Now it's final in the beginner group!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group
Post by: ondo on July 09, 2009, 02:27:17 AM
First battle:

Pinoski

vs

råbe

You got 4 days! When you have uploaded the video, send the link to me!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (Pinoski vs råbe)
Post by: ondo on July 11, 2009, 10:12:11 AM
A note:

If you want to battle in a particular period of time, then just send me a message and say in which battle you could enter. The maximum lenght of a battle is 6 days, often less.
Just send me a message and say in which battle you would like to be. For example after the count of days. That would fasten the things a lot and some would know when to check the forum.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (Pinoski vs råbe)
Post by: ondo on July 12, 2009, 10:09:47 AM
Attention!

If you want to participate in the next battle after the proceeding one, give me a message and you can film and send the link already!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (Pinoski vs råbe)
Post by: ondo on July 14, 2009, 08:48:18 AM
The limit has been expanded, but still pinoski takes an uncontested win!
If a rider takes an uncontested win, I will still post his video, so the battles won't become so private, he he.

His run:

Pinoski Global-Flat battle (http://vimeo.com/5587017)
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (Pinoski vs råbe)
Post by: ondo on July 14, 2009, 08:52:59 AM
Next battle:

Luke

vs

Koshtrik!


You have 4 days to send the link to me!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (Luke vs Koshtrik)
Post by: bmx4lif3 on July 15, 2009, 10:04:34 PM
blind is going to do pretty well in this comp!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (Luke vs Koshtrik)
Post by: AtlFlatCrew on July 16, 2009, 05:21:31 PM
you've got that right, dude's been riding... and very well for that matter.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (Luke vs Koshtrik)
Post by: ondo on July 17, 2009, 01:37:08 PM
Luke run

global flat online battle Luke Malone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mz1uq-2QBc#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)

Koshtrik run

battle2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehkwht_nAdk#ws-lq-lq2-hq)

Koshtriks run is 4 seconds too long. That means -10% of votes.

Voting is open!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Sagaris on July 17, 2009, 02:09:35 PM
Expert and Masters so far are looking roughly equal in terms of difficulty.  :P
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: h2otowntony on July 17, 2009, 04:27:34 PM
and these guys are expert!
Oh my f*cking god
Tough choice man
Props to their riding  :beer: :beer: :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: MIKE EVANS on July 17, 2009, 08:04:29 PM
Ondo, you stated that on the time limit, it would only be penalized if the longest combo was done last. This was not the case. Koshtriks longest combo was at the beginning. Not to mention, his foot hit the pedal on the ride out at 47 seconds. This thing is gonna be too close to be decided on a penalty. This would have been allowed in any contest. There was easily 2 seconds of riding around in there he could have taken out before submitting if known that two seconds would have been scrutinized so harshly.

Now I understand, rules are rules, and keeping that in mind, your own rules state that the over time would be allowed if the longest combo was done at the beginning of the run , which it WAS.

Finally, NO I DO NOT KNOW Koshtrik and if anything, Ive stated several times what a fan of Luke's riding I am. If anyone knows anything about my posts, its that I call it like I see it whether I know the person or not.

If Im wrong, then Im wrong, but I thought it at least deserved a second look.
-MIKE
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Luke on July 17, 2009, 08:12:26 PM
Well I had to re edit my vid or take a penalty and I decided to drop  a combo and include the ride in and ride out.I wish the time limit was a 1 minute    but oh well.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on July 17, 2009, 08:24:09 PM
Well I had to re edit my vid or take a penalty and I decided to drop  a combo and include the ride in and ride out.I wish the time limit was a 1 minute    but oh well.

If you'll get further, then you'll get it, he he.

To Back4Good: Thanks, for the opinion. Yes, the longest combo is at the begining, but still, he has 2 short combos in the middle. Which means, one of them could not be there, that's why the penalty. It doesn't matter if it was 1 or 2 secs of ride out, but there are 5! And anyway it doesn't matter, because the first penalty goes to passing 1-5 seconds, so it still gets -10%. I'm for Koshtrik, but the rules are rules.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: MIKE EVANS on July 18, 2009, 12:48:23 AM
Well I had to re edit my vid or take a penalty and I decided to drop  a combo and include the ride in and ride out.I wish the time limit was a 1 minute    but oh well.

If you'll get further, then you'll get it, he he.

To Back4Good: Thanks, for the opinion. Yes, the longest combo is at the begining, but still, he has 2 short combos in the middle. Which means, one of them could not be there, that's why the penalty. It doesn't matter if it was 1 or 2 secs of ride out, but there are 5! And anyway it doesn't matter, because the first penalty goes to passing 1-5 seconds, so it still gets -10%. I'm for Koshtrik, but the rules are rules.

Fair enough. :beer:
-MIKE
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: gtcesflat on July 18, 2009, 01:35:19 AM
These EXPERTS :huh: :huh: :huh: are very dialed. Another tough decision.  I am so glad I am not a Judge at comps.  There is a fine line between Master and Expert.  I think I am in the wrong class!!!!  PROPS to the both of you Flatlanders.  GOOD LUCK
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: tod miller on July 18, 2009, 08:43:20 PM
Wow, experts?  Great riding.  And Luke and his damn garage.  I'm just jealous.  Excellent riding from both!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: The Brown Sound on July 19, 2009, 05:40:50 AM
I'll still never figure out how Luke rides in that garage! It's even smaller in real life lmao (no offense bro, if anything props) Gotta give it up for my boy Luke! 413Flat4LifeNinja... :P On the real, Luke's riding is ridiculous. I can't even believe this is expert. Such a chill, nice, nice guy as well...
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (Alexis vs ivan-flaterOS)
Post by: ondo on July 19, 2009, 07:02:36 PM
A nice battle between both good riders. Luke takes the win! Votes 36 to 25! (Koshtrik recieved a penalty- 28*0,1=3 28-3=25)

Next battle:

Alexis

vs

ivan-flaterOS!


You have 4 days!

I'm sorry I changed the names. Because I forgat the rider who signed up already. My bad.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (Alexis vs ivan-flaterOS)
Post by: ondo on July 22, 2009, 08:10:19 AM
ivan-flaterOS run

Sonic Battle vid (http://www.vimeo.com/5620820)

Alexis run

Untitled (http://www.vimeo.com/5706992)

Voting is open!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: stvnlpsly on July 22, 2009, 03:42:26 PM
that was dope! both you guys rocked it! sonic is so fast and hard and alexis is nice smooth controlled!  i liked both! good luck guys!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: mare on July 22, 2009, 03:58:26 PM
remember the name SONIC  ;)
+ im affraid what u saw is just a warm up. real stuff to come hehe
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: blind on July 22, 2009, 05:29:08 PM
both videos good. nice spinning wheal chair in the first one
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Huko on July 22, 2009, 05:46:25 PM
Suppa Sonic!  :wub:  :beer: :beer:
great ride by both :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: havok on July 22, 2009, 06:12:58 PM
Damn, this one's tough.

great runs, guys. ;D
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: DaviD (dave0) on July 22, 2009, 06:18:28 PM
I don't like ivan's riding, makes me wanna puke  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ivan-flaterOS on July 22, 2009, 06:31:04 PM
I don't like ivan's riding, makes me wanna puke  :rolleyes:

Haha I ll take that as a compliment ;D
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Luke on July 22, 2009, 06:38:19 PM
remember the name SONIC  ;)
+ im affraid what u saw is just a warm up. real stuff to come hehe

It's only the first round so I would think everyone is being super conservative.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: stvnlpsly on July 22, 2009, 06:52:46 PM
remember the name SONIC  ;)
+ im affraid what u saw is just a warm up. real stuff to come hehe

It's only the first round so I would think everyone is being super conservative.

LOL, not me.  I only got so many tricks.  If I make it through Rnd 1 I need to learn some new tricks!!! LOL
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: DaviD (dave0) on July 22, 2009, 07:10:39 PM
remember the name SONIC  ;)
+ im affraid what u saw is just a warm up. real stuff to come hehe

It's only the first round so I would think everyone is being super conservative.

LOL, not me.  I only got so many tricks.  If I make it through Rnd 1 I need to learn some new tricks!!! LOL
haha im learning a few during the battles too  ^_^

dont be too conservative by mistake :D
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: MIKE EVANS on July 22, 2009, 07:13:24 PM
remember the name SONIC  ;)
+ im affraid what u saw is just a warm up. real stuff to come hehe

It's only the first round so I would think everyone is being super conservative.
I think the point was that Sonic wasnt exactly riding conservative and yet it was ONLY a warm up. Props to both of you guys. Another close run that I think is strictly coming down to style preference. Look forward to seeing more from both of you. You two are awesome.
-M
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: stvnlpsly on July 22, 2009, 07:53:15 PM
remember the name SONIC  ;)
+ im affraid what u saw is just a warm up. real stuff to come hehe

It's only the first round so I would think everyone is being super conservative.
I think the point was that Sonic wasnt exactly riding conservative and yet it was ONLY a warm up. Props to both of you guys. Another close run that I think is strictly coming down to style preference. Look forward to seeing more from both of you. You two are awesome.
-M

+1
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ivan-flaterOS on July 22, 2009, 10:47:46 PM
Im actually planning this to be my run at the gypsy games next month...so these are the most dield links I got...
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: blind on July 22, 2009, 11:55:17 PM
gotta give it to frenchy. nice spinning hiker,that flip out of the steam boat, more variety overall.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Rad255 on July 23, 2009, 12:27:39 AM
I can't even believe your spinning that fast Ivan. Props my friend, you should be competing more. Not only is it fast, it's so controlled. Your a monster.  :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: MIKE EVANS on July 23, 2009, 12:35:36 AM
I can't even believe your spinning that fast Ivan. Props my friend, you should be competing more. Not only is it fast, it's so controlled. Your a monster.  :beer:
+1 Reminded me of York Uno @ KOG2.
-M
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Ovidiu M. on July 23, 2009, 10:16:52 AM
Im actually planning this to be my run at the gypsy games next month...so these are the most dield links I got...
hope to bee there to i'm save some money for the trip Nice run !!!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on July 24, 2009, 08:34:10 AM
Congrats! ivan-flaterOS wins with votes 45 to 28!

Next battle:

blind

vs

misterpola!


You have 4 days!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (blind vs misterpola)
Post by: raddad67 (Mark) on July 24, 2009, 02:28:49 PM
http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls  (http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls)
Updated.

Keep on Riding!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (blind vs misterpola)
Post by: blind on July 25, 2009, 12:18:34 AM
i dont think im going to have time to film ,i rode last night and didnt hit sh*t. frenchy is the only person that has a cam here and i can only get up with him on thur.plus working at a aqaurium the weekends during the summer i work open to close. ill see what i can do but i dont think ill be able to get anything togather.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (blind vs misterpola)
Post by: ondo on July 25, 2009, 01:01:58 AM
Ok, at least you warned me in time.

So, the battle changes:

misterpola

vs

franflat!


The time is 4 days from now!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (misterpola vs franflat)
Post by: blind on July 25, 2009, 03:13:07 AM
word
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (misterpola vs franflat)
Post by: Julian Matias on July 26, 2009, 04:44:58 PM
I think misterpola told you at the beggining of the comp that he won't be online this week because he is staying in paris.
But I'm not sure ondo, check your MP's cause I might be wrong.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (misterpola vs franflat)
Post by: ondo on July 26, 2009, 06:27:30 PM
I think misterpola told you at the beggining of the comp that he won't be online this week because he is staying in paris.
But I'm not sure ondo, check your MP's cause I might be wrong.

Yes, he's in paris. Everything is alright! I have his video already!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (misterpola vs franflat)
Post by: ondo on July 29, 2009, 09:09:05 AM
misterpola run

Global Flat Experts Video 1 (http://www.vimeo.com/5583215)

franflat run

franflat global battle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgBmoOB3DoQ#lq-lq2-hq)

The voting is open!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on July 31, 2009, 08:49:35 AM
The winner of this battle is franflat! Votes 45 to 38.

Next battle:

ondo

vs

Ovidiu M (the_ripper)!


You have 4 days.


Oh, yeah, it's business time.  :mellow:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Ovidiu M (the_ripper))
Post by: ondo on July 31, 2009, 08:52:20 AM
misterpola will be back from from France and he'll have a pleasant surprise :D
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Ovidiu M (the_ripper))
Post by: Ovidiu M. on July 31, 2009, 01:08:33 PM
yee ondo you will kick my ass  ^_^ ^_^ ^_^
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Ovidiu M (the_ripper))
Post by: ondo on July 31, 2009, 02:11:16 PM
yee ondo you will kick my ass  ^_^ ^_^ ^_^

I hope so.  ;D
But anyway, you can send the link to me. I won't watch it before I'll make mine vid. :D
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Ovidiu M (the_ripper))
Post by: SERGI8 on July 31, 2009, 02:35:06 PM
misterpola will be back from from France and he'll have a pleasant surprise :D

Could you please ( one of the 45 ppl who vote for franflat ) explain me why did you vote for him?

I mean, i can´t really understand this result.

Franflat: Yes you are good, but i don´t think that your run were actually better than pola´s run.

Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Ovidiu M (the_ripper))
Post by: franciscofromperu on July 31, 2009, 02:56:15 PM
misterpola will be back from from France and he'll have a pleasant surprise :D

Could you please ( one of the 45 ppl who vote for franflat ) explain me why did you vote for him?

I mean, i can´t really understand this result.

Franflat: Yes you are good, but i don´t think that your run were actually better than pola´s run.


well is not hard to explain, many more of my friends vote for me cause they're now how's good I can be, and this first vid is only a little part, I know about my mistake, I should upload a more stronger vid for my first battle, but if you read good the rules of ondo tells about  you can't repeat any combo in the next vids, so I prepared this simple vid for the first run,I didn't know about what kind of vid is going to upload misterpola, but whatever, so please wait until the next run for see my skillz and my runs on the front wheel.

cheers to you my firend
Franflat
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Ovidiu M (the_ripper))
Post by: ondo on July 31, 2009, 03:03:07 PM
misterpola will be back from from France and he'll have a pleasant surprise :D

Could you please ( one of the 45 ppl who vote for franflat ) explain me why did you vote for him?

I mean, i can´t really understand this result.

Franflat: Yes you are good, but i don´t think that your run were actually better than pola´s run.



My opinion:
Both of the runs were kinda simple. Misterpolas run was nice, liked the front wheel, but still nothing that I couldn't do. Don't want to argue or sound like a smartass, but I give credit to the rider who does something nice, what I can't do

Franflat run was all backwheel. It's hard to vote in these kind of battles. His combo seemed simple(I don't mean easy). Althought I don't ride backwheel that much, I tried to understand both trick difficulty and ---->
I voted for misterpola

Oh, and here you go, simple!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Ovidiu M (the_ripper))
Post by: SERGI8 on July 31, 2009, 03:06:33 PM
WTF!

 U can´t be subjetive. U´ve to judge by what U are seeing.

I´ll tell U again, yes you are good. But Polas run were better.

Anyway... My post was not against you fellow! Enjoy your victory!!

I´m still awaiting 44 answers  ;D
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Ovidiu M (the_ripper))
Post by: stvnlpsly on July 31, 2009, 08:56:32 PM
I think the whole point in having a Poll is so you DON'T see who voted for who.  That would take away from the whole objective.  People are entitled to their own opinion.  Maybe after the Battles are all over and done with some people will come out and let you know why they did or didn't vote for someone. 

A lot of it comes down to what viewers "saw" as cooler or looked more polished.  Also, I think there is obvious "friend voting" and "pity voting".  Do you need those people to explain their reasons too?  I don't.  Look at the last two rounds in Beginner.  Myself vs iluminati and Tickzta vs annija.  I am not being arrogant here, but anyone who watched those two battles based on the tricks would obviously vote for myself and trickzta.  Yet somehow, iluminati and annija got votes.  I am not by any means dogging either of you.  Keep riding and progressing. We are all beginners and this is friendly competition.  Don't take it so seriously Sergi8!!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Ovidiu M (the_ripper))
Post by: SERGI8 on July 31, 2009, 10:00:21 PM
Yes, you are right.

Sad but true... Maybe we should set a judge for next battles, as we did in our local online contest. That poll sistem do not work
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Ovidiu M (the_ripper))
Post by: ondo on July 31, 2009, 11:53:12 PM
Look at the last two rounds in Beginner.  Myself vs iluminati and Tickzta vs annija.  I am not being arrogant here, but anyone who watched those two battles based on the tricks would obviously vote for myself and trickzta.  Yet somehow, iluminati and annija got votes.

Yes, they are both my friends and really both of them couldn't win the battles for sure. But those few votes they got maybe for some other reasons, perhaps just for annija being a girl, he he. I checked the votes for those two battles, by not voting and I would vote just for my friends if they didn't get a single vote. But I didn't because I saw, that maybe others were voting like that, he :)

Sad but true... Maybe we should set a judge for next battles, as we did in our local online contest. That poll sistem do not work

I don't like the judge system. It would take away the participation of whole global-flat comunity.
The polls work. And I have never been really surprised about the battle results. Okay, I haven't always voted for the winner, but some of the battles were quite close in voting, as this one.
It's just for fun. (althought I'm stressed a bit, because I can't plan my runs :D )
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Ovidiu M (the_ripper))
Post by: Ricardo T. on August 01, 2009, 05:31:09 AM
misterpola will be back from from France and he'll have a pleasant surprise :D

Could you please ( one of the 45 ppl who vote for franflat ) explain me why did you vote for him?

I mean, i can´t really understand this result.

Franflat: Yes you are good, but i don´t think that your run were actually better than pola´s run.


well is not hard to explain, many more of my friends vote for me cause they're now how's good I can be, and this first vid is only a little part, I know about my mistake, I should upload a more stronger vid for my first battle, but if you read good the rules of ondo tells about  you can't repeat any combo in the next vids, so I prepared this simple vid for the first run,I didn't know about what kind of vid is going to upload misterpola, but whatever, so please wait until the next run for see my skillz and my runs on the front wheel.

cheers to you my firend
Franflat

I think its such a good thing you have so many friends that voted for you but clearly misterpola's run was way better.
Dont take it as an offence, but i really hope that your friends can keep voting for you during the contest, cause your riding isnt strong enough.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Ovidiu M (the_ripper))
Post by: Clash on August 01, 2009, 08:16:03 AM
Quote
I think its such a good thing you have so many friends that voted for you but clearly misterpola's run was way better.
Dont take it as an offence, but i really hope that your friends can keep voting for you during the contest, cause your riding isnt strong enough.


I have no friends here. I voted for Fran. I liked his run better simply because it was slow and clean. I am a sucker for scuffing tricks. Both riders performed very well!

Honestly I don't care who wins just keep posting videos guys.... and chicks!

Best of luck to everyone in progressing.

Clash
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Ovidiu M (the_ripper))
Post by: Paradoxium on August 01, 2009, 12:23:08 PM
I believe some are taking things a bit too serious here. This is an online battle. The public votes for their choice. No one can rightfully say your riding isn't strong enough.  Only short clips are allowed,  clearly not enough to see each riders full potential.


This battle was imo very close. Pola had a good front wheel run and Franflat had a good rear wheel run. I am friends with Franflat, but he received my vote not because we're friends, but because I was quite suprised to see his new back wheel routine, he practices alot and it shows.  I have seen some of his back wheel tricks, but he has really progressed over the last year. He has a stack of front wheel stuff you will see in the next vids. He messed up a bit in the end on the rideout, but didn't touch.


Misterpola is an amazing rider that needs some recognition. He has great skills at a really young age and makes all his own parts. Inspirational. I have spoken to Martin about him a while back to see if we can get him a bit of recognition or something. Online battles are not the end of the world. 
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Ovidiu M (the_ripper))
Post by: ondo on August 01, 2009, 08:08:55 PM
ondo run

global-flat.com round 2 battle- ondo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVxdrp7Z_vU#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)

Ovidiu M (the_ripper) run

Online Flatland Battle Ovidiu M. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEPM10Sy2uk#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)

The voting is open!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Moya-1 on August 01, 2009, 08:23:04 PM
ondo, seem like u want be like ronny... :wacko:
good stuff hahahha
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: dogzilla on August 01, 2009, 11:03:46 PM
wow these are both great
also i took me to views to notice you didnt have cranks ondo.   ;D

alright Im going to do it this way
ondo
+1 for turbine at start
+1 for pegwheelie thing with both feet
+1 for firehydrant into the cliffhanger
+1 for pegwheelie into hang five link
4 total

Ovidiu M
+1 for standing on handle bar
+1 for the backyard link
+1 for the ride out, that looked sweet
+1 for timemachine link
4 total

um.. crap


well Im going to vote for you ondo. Over all, your video gave me more of a wow,
but Ovidiu, that ride out from the backyard was really cool. 
I hope theres a tie so there can be a tie breaker so I can see more of both of you. ;D

Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Ovidiu M. on August 02, 2009, 02:10:45 AM
wow these are both great
also i took me to views to notice you didnt have cranks ondo.   ;D

alright Im going to do it this way
ondo
+1 for turbine at start
+1 for pegwheelie thing with both feet
+1 for firehydrant into the cliffhanger
+1 for pegwheelie into hang five link
4 total

Ovidiu M
+1 for standing on handle bar
+1 for the backyard link
+1 for the ride out, that looked sweet
+1 for timemachine link
4 total

um.. crap


well Im going to vote for you ondo. Over all, your video gave me more of a wow,
but Ovidiu, that ride out from the backyard was really cool. 
I hope theres a tie so there can be a tie breaker so I can see more of both of you. ;D




Thanks alot i know ondo is a bit more better than me :)) but i tryed 
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: TJ Perry on August 02, 2009, 12:09:29 PM



Thanks alot i know ondo is a bit more better than me :)) but i tryed 

No. He's not. You actually ride a bike. He doesn't.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on August 02, 2009, 12:46:16 PM



Thanks alot i know ondo is a bit more better than me :)) but i tryed  

No. He's not. You actually ride a bike. He doesn't.

Not again, uh.

ondo, seem like u want be like ronny... :wacko:
good stuff hahahha

I'm not that kind of rider, but yeah, looked pretty similar.
I love this vid. This looks so fast. :D
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Aeons of Flat on August 02, 2009, 12:49:35 PM
this isn't happening, pm ondo if you have a problem with him not here
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: TJ Perry on August 02, 2009, 11:01:04 PM
If he can openly criticize other riders riding in these threads and others, I see no reason why he is exempt from the same treatment.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on August 02, 2009, 11:09:35 PM
If he can openly criticize other riders riding in these threads and others, I see no reason why he is exempt from the same treatment.

Feel free to do it!  :wub:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Talisayflat on August 03, 2009, 04:43:27 PM
i had fun reading your arguments  :wacko: maybe when you see each other you hug  ;D

nice riding on both riders. your both very good ;D
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: pawnshopmike on August 03, 2009, 07:36:32 PM



Thanks alot i know ondo is a bit more better than me :)) but i tryed 

No. He's not. You actually ride a bike. He doesn't.

Sorry Ondo. Ovidiu M got my vote for this reason. I don't have a problem with people riding crankless in general. Do what makes you happy. But TJ is correct, it's not a bike without them. Scooters should compete with other scooters and bikes with bikes.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on August 03, 2009, 07:59:55 PM



Thanks alot i know ondo is a bit more better than me :)) but i tryed  

No. He's not. You actually ride a bike. He doesn't.

Sorry Ondo. Ovidiu M got my vote for this reason. I don't have a problem with people riding crankless in general. Do what makes you happy. But TJ is correct, it's not a bike without them. Scooters should compete with other scooters and bikes with bikes.

TJ's words go even against his words about bias in competition.
I know that Ovidiu got few votes, just because I'm crankless. That is really not fair. Don't judge me or my choice, judge my riding. And if you can't stick with it, don't vote at all.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: stvnlpsly on August 03, 2009, 08:06:24 PM



Thanks alot i know ondo is a bit more better than me :)) but i tryed 

No. He's not. You actually ride a bike. He doesn't.

Sorry Ondo. Ovidiu M got my vote for this reason. I don't have a problem with people riding crankless in general. Do what makes you happy. But TJ is correct, it's not a bike without them. Scooters should compete with other scooters and bikes with bikes.

TJ's words go even against his words about bias in competition.
I know that Ovidiu got few votes, just because I'm crankless. That is really not fair. Don't judge me or my choice, judge my riding. And if you can't stick with it, don't vote at all.

Well, based on your riding you have to base it on being crankless.  Those backwheel spins you do with both feet on the pegs... if you had cranks it would be WAY harder.  I rode crankless for 4 days this month while waiting for a BB and hikers and steamrollers spun around in like a 'synch!

So based on RIDING not choice... Ovidiu just had more difficult tricks based on this.  Sorry, your riding is good Ondo... no doubt!  But... your choice of crankless is going to have to come with criticism and the consequences of guys like me and TJ calling it a scooter.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on August 03, 2009, 08:06:33 PM
The winner of this battle is ondo! Votes 39 to 17.

Next battle:

spix

vs

Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW)


You have 4 days!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on August 03, 2009, 08:12:34 PM
Well, based on your riding you have to base it on being crankless.  Those backwheel spins you do with both feet on the pegs... if you had cranks it would be WAY harder.  I rode crankless for 4 days this month while waiting for a BB and hikers and steamrollers spun around in like a 'synch!

So based on RIDING not choice... Ovidiu just had more difficult tricks based on this.  Sorry, your riding is good Ondo... no doubt!  But... your choice of crankless is going to have to come with criticism and the consequences of guys like me and TJ calling it a scooter.

Not everything is easier crankless.

Ok, I'm already used to this criticism, but voting against me, just because you have the idea, that something is way harder with cranks, hah, that's even funny.
But I'm allright. I'll do some crazy sh*t with my scooter.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: spix on August 03, 2009, 10:09:00 PM
yeah! can't wait to go out tomorrow:)
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: alex@H on August 03, 2009, 10:28:39 PM
nevertheless you are the winner, ondo. that means, that only a small amount of the voters have a problem with the crankless sh*t.. (or had other reasons to vote for ovidiu m, who rode really good!). maybe there will be someone who beats you, with some pedal stuff like pedal hang5  ;) but until now, i dont see a reason to "vote against you" just because of riding crankless- your riding is very beautiful, keep it on and do your own style
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: TJ Perry on August 03, 2009, 10:44:09 PM

TJ's words go even against his words about bias in competition.
I know that Ovidiu got few votes, just because I'm crankless. That is really not fair. Don't judge me or my choice, judge my riding. And if you can't stick with it, don't vote at all.

No, it doesn't go against my words. what you pulled in your run without cranks wasn't hard at all. I've never seen you do anything that could be considered just as hard without cranks as it is with cranks. It's a f*cking scooter. It's not a bike. You do not ride a bike. You ride a scooter. Since you are not riding a bike, I don't see how you shouldn't be disqualified from any contest you enter in because it isn't a bike, it's a scooter.

And to top it all off, you're an arrogant prick who has to talk down to everyone who posts a video of their riding. It's disgusting.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: Clash on August 03, 2009, 11:05:24 PM
Ondo I had not noticed you were riding crank-less.  I have to agree with others that a bike without cranks is a "scooter."   

The above begs to ask the question..... Why do you ride crank-less?  I am sure this has been covered but I am new and missed it. 

Clash
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: SFV_BOY on August 03, 2009, 11:18:58 PM
dood ondo just get a pair of those 110mm cranks lol...but seriously get em :P
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: Clash on August 03, 2009, 11:40:18 PM
dood ondo just get a pair of those 110mm cranks lol...but seriously get em :P

Don't forget a sprocket, chain, and pedals..... I hope I don't need to mention a BB.  :rolleyes:

Clash
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on August 04, 2009, 12:14:53 AM

No, it doesn't go against my words. what you pulled in your run without cranks wasn't hard at all. I've never seen you do anything that could be considered just as hard without cranks as it is with cranks. It's a f*cking scooter. It's not a bike. You do not ride a bike. You ride a scooter. Since you are not riding a bike, I don't see how you shouldn't be disqualified from any contest you enter in because it isn't a bike, it's a scooter.

And to top it all off, you're an arrogant prick who has to talk down to everyone who posts a video of their riding. It's disgusting.

Oh no, you have seen- whiplashes! They are just as hard without cranks as with them or even harder!
And don't even f*ck, I've done 8 whiplashes both with cranks and without, so I know better.
Have you riden crankless TJ? And if yes, for how long?

When the first disqualification will come, then I'll think about it.


And I don't understand your view. That's the same as JFos. I asked him- please, show me my criticism, and the only thing I had said, was that others are overestimating about guys riding. And that's it!?? f*cking flame on.
Stop puting people in small frames of your view.


Why do you ride crank-less?


I broke my BB bearings, so I took cranks off and then I started to like riding without them. When I was riding with cranks I watched strange at those who didn't have them. And probably with the same criticism, but then I tried for myself.
Type "crankless" in the search and you'll probably find my arguments.


dood ondo just get a pair of those 110mm cranks lol...but seriously get em :P

Pff, it's just symbolical.


Come on, f*ck it, it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: flatwax81 on August 04, 2009, 01:17:24 AM
Okay a scooter does not have a top tube nor does a flatland frame have a large platform in the center of it. Most scooters have small wheels. How many flatland scooter riders are out there? Now that is underground.  Although in terms of flatland, cranks are essential for specfic tricks and can add a degree of difficulty to others. Riding crankless does not create a scooter the only thing in common with a scooter that it would have is too push off for initial motion. I would say that riding crankless is more of a handicap more then anything else. If your a purest you might disagree with this but there is a clear difference between a scooter and bicycle even if the bike is crankless. Less weight, more space can make tricks easier in alot of cases. This is an online competition that basically cost nothing to anyone involved in it, so if you lose its not the end of the world. There are many judges that vote and there  is no guarantee that there will not be bias involved in votes.  As far as rules go they are posted on the front page so everyone knows whats going on. There are no rules against crankless riding. This is my feeling about the "scooter" issue. Im just happy to battle and try to push my riding to higher levels.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: b_ron on August 04, 2009, 01:26:05 AM
Okay a scooter does not have a top tube nor does a flatland frame have a large platform in the center of it. Most scooters have small wheels. How many flatland scooter riders are out there? Now that is underground.  Although in terms of flatland, cranks are essential for specfic tricks and can add a degree of difficulty to others. Riding crankless does not create a scooter the only thing in common with a scooter that it would have is too push off for initial motion. I would say that riding crankless is more of a handicap more then anything else. If your a purest you might disagree with this but there is a clear difference between a scooter and bicycle even if the bike is crankless. Less weight, more space can make tricks easier in alot of cases. This is an online competition that basically cost nothing to anyone involved in it, so if you lose its not the end of the world. There are many judges that vote and there  is no guarantee that there will not be bias involved in votes.  As far as rules go they are posted on the front page so everyone knows whats going on. There are no rules against crankless riding. This is my feeling about the "scooter" issue. Im just happy to battle and try to push my riding to higher levels.

i think thats why they call it a "scooter". not like an actual razor scooter or w/e
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: Clash on August 04, 2009, 01:33:39 AM
Okay a scooter does not have a top tube nor does a flatland frame have a large platform in the center of it. Most scooters have small wheels. How many flatland scooter riders are out there? Now that is underground.  Although in terms of flatland, cranks are essential for specfic tricks and can add a degree of difficulty to others. Riding crankless does not create a scooter the only thing in common with a scooter that it would have is too push off for initial motion. I would say that riding crankless is more of a handicap more then anything else. If your a purest you might disagree with this but there is a clear difference between a scooter and bicycle even if the bike is crankless. Less weight, more space can make tricks easier in alot of cases. This is an online competition that basically cost nothing to anyone involved in it, so if you lose its not the end of the world. There are many judges that vote and there  is no guarantee that there will not be bias involved in votes.  As far as rules go they are posted on the front page so everyone knows whats going on. There are no rules against crankless riding. This is my feeling about the "scooter" issue. Im just happy to battle and try to push my riding to higher levels.

Well "scooter" may be a harsh exaggeration...... maybe.  My argument is not in trick difficulty with or without cranks.  I was and still am stating that in my opinion a bicycle without cranks is not a traditional bicycle.  A large portion of sports have multiple classes to keep everyone happy.  Perhaps a "crankless" class would satisfy everyone, who knows that could lead to a vintage class, super stock class, ans so on.  Just a thought, either way I enjoy the online battles.

Clash  
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: SFV_BOY on August 04, 2009, 02:19:03 AM
dood ondo just get a pair of those 110mm cranks lol...but seriously get em :P

Pff, it's just symbolical.


Come on, f*ck it, it doesn't matter.

i dont really mind it but im just sayin those cranks would be perfect for u! its like there not even there! and u can still pedal..... well kinda
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: spix on August 04, 2009, 06:23:33 PM
damn! why do i have to get a puncture everytime i try to ride in front of a camera..
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Ovidiu M (the_ripper))
Post by: misterpola on August 04, 2009, 06:25:05 PM
well is not hard to explain, many more of my friends vote for me cause they're now how's good I can be, and this first vid is only a little part, I know about my mistake, I should upload a more stronger vid for my first battle, but if you read good the rules of ondo tells about  you can't repeat any combo in the next vids, so I prepared this simple vid for the first run,I didn't know about what kind of vid is going to upload misterpola, but whatever, so please wait until the next run for see my skillz and my runs on the front wheel.

cheers to you my firend
Franflat
[/quote]

ok, i think i´ve read enough.
friends judging tricks that you didn´t pull on the video.
omfg
good luck in this contest

Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: stvnlpsly on August 05, 2009, 11:20:37 AM
Ondo, I'm not hating on you... And I didn't vote "against you" I vote for the other guy based on my personal opinion of whose run I believed was harder/better. Big difference.  If it were you vs me I'd have voted for you, based on difficulty of runs, but given similar runs/tricks the guy with cranks will always get my vote.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: MIKE EVANS on August 05, 2009, 06:54:19 PM
Friends voting for friends. Come on guys, its not a popularity contest. Voting on what you know someone can do, based on what they did. LAME. If we were gonna do that, why even have the battles? Just about everyone on here has already posted riding vids. So we have a clue of what just about everyone on here can do. If this is the case, I can go thru the media section and go ahead and pick out the winners without the battles ever happening. Ondo tried to put something together that was positive with this and select few are ruining it. From this kind of crap. To obvious sandbaggers. Get it together guys. And the few of you who are tainting this know who you are. Lets keep this fun and positive.
-MIKE
BTW Misterpola, you are an awesome rider. I really like your style and you have got some sick skills. I DID vote for you.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: SERGI8 on August 05, 2009, 07:14:40 PM
WORD!  :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: Clash on August 05, 2009, 08:43:15 PM
Friends voting for friends. Come on guys, its not a popularity contest. Voting on what you know someone can do, based on what they did. LAME.

I agree!

Clash
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: raddad67 (Mark) on August 07, 2009, 02:24:12 AM
http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls (http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls)

Back from Voodoo and took a quick break from editing video. Sheet is now Updated...Be sure to check ou the Brakets You can see how thing are playing out. If you forgot what the battle looked like you can click the name and their video will play.

Keep on Riding!!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: ondo on August 08, 2009, 08:51:18 AM
spix takes an uncontested win!

Enjoy his video:


Global-flat.com Battle Expert class round 1 - spix vs Kevin (http://vimeo.com/5980730)

Next battle:

paved_paradise

vs

flaTTech


You have 4 days!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (paved_paradise vs flaTTech)
Post by: raddad67 (Mark) on August 08, 2009, 02:30:16 PM
http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls (http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls)

Updated!

Ondo is leading the Expert Class by 2 points.

ondo    329
ivan-flaterOS    327
franflat    320
Luke    313
Pinoski    271
spix    271
misterpola    204
Alexis    187
Koshtrik    182
Ovidiu M (the_ripper)    168
Rabe    0
Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW)    0
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: misterpola on August 10, 2009, 01:53:36 AM
Friends voting for friends. Come on guys, its not a popularity contest. Voting on what you know someone can do, based on what they did. LAME. If we were gonna do that, why even have the battles? Just about everyone on here has already posted riding vids. So we have a clue of what just about everyone on here can do. If this is the case, I can go thru the media section and go ahead and pick out the winners without the battles ever happening. Ondo tried to put something together that was positive with this and select few are ruining it. From this kind of crap. To obvious sandbaggers. Get it together guys. And the few of you who are tainting this know who you are. Lets keep this fun and positive.
-MIKE
BTW Misterpola, you are an awesome rider. I really like your style and you have got some sick skills. I DID vote for you.
thanks for the kind words!
I hope he's got TONS of friends, because what he did is not correct, and i've got a LOT of friends who doesn't like those kinds of actitudes. And as it seems that what's shown on the video is not the main thing to judge, maybe my friends will have those actitudes in count at voting time
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (paved_paradise vs flaTTech)
Post by: flatargento on August 10, 2009, 01:58:31 AM
 :beer: :beer:  :beer: :beer: :beer:
Take it easy guys, it's just a contest for fun.































PS: I will destroy him.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: Paradoxium on August 10, 2009, 02:10:58 AM
maybe my friends will have those actitudes in count at voting time

I will destroy him.


I'd like to remind you guys that you are about to do exactly what you are criticising others of doing.



Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: misterpola on August 10, 2009, 02:22:18 AM
maybe my friends will have those actitudes in count at voting time

I will destroy him.


I'd like to remind you guys that you are about to do exactly what you are criticising others of doing.




I know, but anyways i'm out of this contest already, so I do not care.
And he does not deserve to be in this contest. Not anymore.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: MIKE EVANS on August 10, 2009, 03:03:25 AM
maybe my friends will have those actitudes in count at voting time

I will destroy him.


I'd like to remind you guys that you are about to do exactly what you are criticising others of doing.




I know, but anyways i'm out of this contest already, so I do not care.
And he does not deserve to be in this contest. Not anymore.
I hate to be like this. But Misterpola deserved to advance. The fact that the other guy OPENLY admitted HIS FRIENDS voted for him due to what they have seen him do and not based on his run, he should be disqualified. Its Bullsh*t. You all are absolutely correct, this was supposed to be fun, and Ondo tried to do something so great. There are rules to be followed as far as the runs, and those are enforced. There should be a rule against what the other guy openly admitted to as well. I was already getting a little salty from a couple of the attitudes in other battles, unfortunately this will make my final decision for me to no longer participate in these. Niether as a judge nor as a competitor. I wish luck to all the remaining participants and Im sorry that a couple people are ruining what was supposed to be simple fun and friendly competition to motivate progression. Its a fu*$ing shame.
PS. Ive NEVER met Misterpola, I have based my opinion SOLELY on his abilities.
-MIKE
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: MIKE EVANS on August 10, 2009, 03:05:41 AM
maybe my friends will have those actitudes in count at voting time

I will destroy him.


I'd like to remind you guys that you are about to do exactly what you are criticising others of doing.




I dont think you need to remind them Karl. Ive never disagreed with anything you said, but dont fault these guys for being a little salty over something so blatantly WRONG.
-MIKE
BTW, I do have a feeling this thing is gonna correct itself. NOBODY likes what happened and Ive a sneaky suspicion that the ONLY votes he will receive the next time will be from his friends. Even if his competitor is doing curb endos and I-hops.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: misterpola on August 10, 2009, 03:11:19 AM
maybe my friends will have those actitudes in count at voting time

I will destroy him.


I'd like to remind you guys that you are about to do exactly what you are criticising others of doing.




I know, but anyways i'm out of this contest already, so I do not care.
And he does not deserve to be in this contest. Not anymore.
I hate to be like this. But Misterpola deserved to advance. The fact that the other guy OPENLY admitted HIS FRIENDS voted for him due to what they have seen him do and not based on his run, he should be disqualified. Its Bullsh*t. You all are absolutely correct, this was supposed to be fun, and Ondo tried to do something so great. There are rules to be followed as far as the runs, and those are enforced. There should be a rule against what the other guy openly admitted to as well. I was already getting a little salty from a couple of the attitudes in other battles, unfortunately this will make my final decision for me to no longer participate in these. Niether as a judge nor as a competitor. I wish luck to all the remaining participants and Im sorry that a couple people are ruining what was supposed to be simple fun and friendly competition to motivate progression. Its a fu*$ing shame.
PS. Ive NEVER met Misterpola, I have based my opinion SOLELY on his abilities.
-MIKE
:beer:
And i don't even think those friends were real at all. It's easy to create account on this forum.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (paved_paradise vs flaTTech)
Post by: flatargento on August 10, 2009, 03:24:52 AM
Yeah, we didnt like what franflat did, misterpola is like my brother... and in the last contest i even voted against him when he battled moya... he knows it and he is okay with it.


i cant understand why franflat did what he did, this was supposed to be for fun.

anyways, im off to ride again.

i suggest to stop posting about this, so we dont ruin anything. have fun and ride hardcore everyone.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (paved_paradise vs flaTTech)
Post by: Paradoxium on August 10, 2009, 03:42:23 AM
i suggest to stop posting about this, so we dont ruin anything. have fun and ride hardcore everyone.

I agree. Stop hating on people and not ruin the battles. Every single rider most likely has a friend or 2 that voted based on that, but as I've said before, we can only hope it evens out.
This issue has come up in the other battles, just read through them.

Most votes will be based on the skill in the vid anyway.

Misterpola may be back in, we'll see what eventuates.  :mellow:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (paved_paradise vs flaTTech)
Post by: MIKE EVANS on August 10, 2009, 05:24:54 AM
i suggest to stop posting about this, so we dont ruin anything. have fun and ride hardcore everyone.

I agree. Stop hating on people and not ruin the battles. Every single rider most likely has a friend or 2 that voted based on that, but as I've said before, we can only hope it evens out.
This issue has come up in the other battles, just read through them.

Most votes will be based on the skill in the vid anyway.

Misterpola may be back in, we'll see what eventuates.  :mellow:
This will be my last post on the subject. I agree with you guys whole-heartedly. Im still recuperating fromsurgery so unfortunately I have a little too much time on my hands. Its not that it happened that bugged me, as Im sure it does just like Karl said. It was the fact that Franflat so ARROGANTLY posted on here straight telling that that was what happened. If Misterpola had lost and I didnt know why and just assumed Franflat had friends voting, I wouldnt have posted a word. It was his blatant arrogance in the matter that pissed me off. I DEFINATELY wasnt hating on his riding. I liked his run, I just liked Mosterpola's better. It was his arrogance not his skills that did it.
Peace out,
-MIKE
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (paved_paradise vs flaTTech)
Post by: Paradoxium on August 10, 2009, 07:02:18 AM
Its not that it happened that bugged me, as Im sure it does just like Karl said. It was the fact that Franflat so ARROGANTLY posted on here straight telling that that was what happened. If Misterpola had lost and I didnt know why and just assumed Franflat had friends voting, I wouldnt have posted a word. It was his blatant arrogance in the matter that pissed me off. I DEFINATELY wasnt hating on his riding. I liked his run, I just liked Mosterpola's better. It was his arrogance not his skills that did it.
Peace out,
-MIKE

Its more of a misunderstanding than arrogance. He wouldn't deliberately rub someones nose into it. He is a peaceful guy and the upsets were completely unintentional, believe me.
Its very common for people speaking English as a second language to be mistaken about their sentences and people getting the wrong message.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (paved_paradise vs flaTTech)
Post by: ondo on August 10, 2009, 10:05:30 AM
Anyway I red what you guys were talking about. Franflat isn't guilty about this. He isn't responsible for his friends.
The only thing the "haters" can do is not vote at all in a battle where Franflat participates. :D
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Kevin @Mülheim Ruhr (NRW))
Post by: franciscofromperu on August 10, 2009, 06:50:10 PM
maybe my friends will have those actitudes in count at voting time

I will destroy him.


I'd like to remind you guys that you are about to do exactly what you are criticising others of doing.




I know, but anyways i'm out of this contest already, so I do not care.
And he does not deserve to be in this contest. Not anymore.
I hate to be like this. But Misterpola deserved to advance. The fact that the other guy OPENLY admitted HIS FRIENDS voted for him due to what they have seen him do and not based on his run, he should be disqualified. Its Bullsh*t. You all are absolutely correct, this was supposed to be fun, and Ondo tried to do something so great. There are rules to be followed as far as the runs, and those are enforced. There should be a rule against what the other guy openly admitted to as well. I was already getting a little salty from a couple of the attitudes in other battles, unfortunately this will make my final decision for me to no longer participate in these. Niether as a judge nor as a competitor. I wish luck to all the remaining participants and Im sorry that a couple people are ruining what was supposed to be simple fun and friendly competition to motivate progression. Its a fu*$ing shame.
PS. Ive NEVER met Misterpola, I have based my opinion SOLELY on his abilities.
-MIKE
:beer:
And i don't even think those friends were real at all. It's easy to create account on this forum.

jaja, puedo ver que estas totalmente molesto por el hecho de que quedaste descalificado, pero te digo algo de manera personal, mira en youtube y puedes ver muchos de mis videos, tu solo eres un niño engreido que estas molesto por el puuesto en el que has quedado, pero no me sorprende, solo te digo que hablas con otro flatlander de esta comunidad y definitivamente, es un concurso de votos, pero en fin, solo hay que ver los resultados de los campeonatos latinoamericanos y dime tu desde que nosotros los peruanos participamos en el extranjero ocupamos los primeros lugares, eso quiere decir que el nivel es bueno, y por favor ya paren con todo esto de tratar de descalificarme y decir que deberian de sacarme de competencia, si salgo es porque alguien es mejor que yo y nada mas. es todo lo que tengo que decir asi que misterpola, flatargento y los demas paren con esto que lo unico que estan haciendo es criticar a otro compañero del foro y esto es una comunidad, asi como hay que saber ganar hay que saber perder, y parece que misterpola no es un buen perdedor.

well for the english spokens, please stop with this, I can't be angry about this, cause for me this is not offensive, but, please the people who is mad with me, let me know that in a PM not in the frum, why you try to hide yourselves behind the nicknames??
please guys, this is a open battle, not a gossip girl series extension or a CSI chapter when the investigators try to find the answer of who I can won, misterpola another thing, the people voted for me cause they like my style of riding, and this guys lare not vote for you, the part of i got many friends is only a joke, but this maybe affects your sensible heart, what ever, I don't try to make you understand anything in this, but only one thing, you're out of competition, accept that.
try to do the best in other time, I want to compite against you again, but not in a online contest, in a real contest, in a contest with a floor and judges and know you in person, and please when we meet, tell me this words again, cause I can't understand your attitude.

that's all

Franflat
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (paved_paradise vs flaTTech)
Post by: franciscofromperu on August 10, 2009, 07:28:43 PM
so my last words are: is kiss my a*s time!!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (paved_paradise vs flaTTech)
Post by: Paved Paradise on August 10, 2009, 10:23:48 PM
guess i gotta get something today or my vids I took last week just riding.
last day tommarow?
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (paved_paradise vs flaTTech)
Post by: ondo on August 10, 2009, 10:25:19 PM
This makes me want to see a off online battle between both of them. Like 3 min time. :D
Oh, f*ck it, have fun.

guess i gotta get something today or my vids I took last week just riding.
last day tommarow?

You have ~1,5 days.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (paved_paradise vs flaTTech)
Post by: misterpola on August 10, 2009, 11:17:23 PM
so my last words are: is kiss my a*s time!!
Yo acepto si pierdo, pero si pierdo de buena manera. Es mas, cuando me entere que perdi no se me cruzo por la cabeza en ningun momento venir al foro a discutir, pero cuando Vos mismo dijiste que tus amigos te votaron porque ellos saben que andas bien, ahi me parecio que algo andaba mal porque eso no es lo que se debe juzgar en un torneo. Deben juzgarte por lo que mostraste en el video. Y este no es un torneo de votos. Es un torneo de habilidades.
De mas esta decir que no estoy conforme con el resultado, y sigo pensando lo mismo que antes.
Y yo no soy ningun niño engreido. Vos sos un arrogante.
No hay ninguna necesidad de que alardees con el nivel de riding que hay en Peru. Ya sabemos y hemos visto que tienen un excelente nivel, pero eso no tiene nada que ver con lo que estamos hablando.

I'll accept my loss, but only if it's fair. When I saw I lost, I didn't have the intention to start this on the forum, but when I saw that you said that your friends voted for you because they know "how good you are" I realised that something was wrong, because that's not the thing to judge on a competition. You should be judged for what you show on your video. And this isn't a voting competition. It's a skills competition.
Anyway, it's obvious that i'm not happy with the results, and i'm still thinking the same as I did before.
And i'm not a cocky boy, You are an arrogant boy.
There's no need to boast about the level of riding you have in peru. We all know and have seen that you've got an excellent level of riding there, but that's got nothing to do with what we're talking about right now.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Ovidiu M (the_ripper))
Post by: flatargento on August 10, 2009, 11:22:24 PM
well is not hard to explain, many more of my friends vote for me cause they're now how's good I can be

Vs.

another thing, the people voted for me cause they like my style of riding

 :huh:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (paved_paradise vs flaTTech)
Post by: Paved Paradise on August 12, 2009, 12:12:02 AM
vid is being uploaded to vimeo right now. Not my best, but its something in time.  :beer:
Im making a video for flatmedia section later this week. if anyone wants to comment on my riding feel free, since I havnt fimed in years or shown anyone else my riding. Need some motivation :ph34r:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: elchapin210 on August 12, 2009, 12:51:42 AM
The winner of this battle is franflat! Votes 45 to 38.

Next battle:

ondo

vs

Ovidiu M (the_ripper)!


You have 4 days.


Oh, yeah, it's business time.  :mellow:

how did misterpola lose to the other guy? the voting is totally unjustified
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (paved_paradise vs flaTTech)
Post by: ondo on August 12, 2009, 08:16:23 AM
paved_paradise run

globalflat expert battle 1 (http://vimeo.com/6057991)

flaTTech run

Global-Flat Round2 Expert Battle 1 (http://www.vimeo.com/6061336)

The voting is open!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on August 12, 2009, 08:20:45 AM
Great riding by both of you. Hah, Justin, that's my song! :D
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: DaviD (dave0) on August 12, 2009, 07:06:10 PM
is flattech riding in the middle of a tornado?  ^_^
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: katobmx on August 12, 2009, 11:31:54 PM
flattech was throwin down. hot dame!!!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: mistergaby on August 13, 2009, 02:25:52 AM
franflat: se noto desde peru a china que vos no podrias nunca haber ganado la batalla con misterpola. Hiciste pruebas de iniciante. Mas alla de que tus amigos te vean andar aca no se juzga eso, creo yo, con ese concepto te puedo decir que lo veo a misterpola y anda muhco mas de lo que anda en ese video. Igual cada uno hace lo que quiere. Si yo estaria en tu lugar me daria verguenza no reconocer que andubiste pesimo (en el video, que es lo que se juzga) y  sino decile a tus amigo que vean mejor porque juzgaron como el culo.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Paradoxium on August 13, 2009, 07:14:11 AM
Great riding by Paved and Flattech!  :mellow:



franflat: se noto desde peru a china que vos no podrias nunca haber ganado la batalla con misterpola. Hiciste pruebas de iniciante. Mas alla de que tus amigos te vean andar aca no se juzga eso, creo yo, con ese concepto te puedo decir que lo veo a misterpola y anda muhco mas de lo que anda en ese video. Igual cada uno hace lo que quiere. Si yo estaria en tu lugar me daria verguenza no reconocer que andubiste pesimo (en el video, que es lo que se juzga) y  sino decile a tus amigo que vean mejor porque juzgaron como el culo.


De primero, por que todas las cuentas nuevo.
Gente, por favor pare hablar de esto. Ok Fran recibido votos de amigos, pero ambos flateros sea muy bueno. Es Franflat mierda? No. Definativamente no. Porque de todo gente que dice cosas mal del batalla, yo hablar con Ondo de una segundo oportunidad para misterpola, pero el dice no porque todo otra gente pudo pedir iguales. Yo tengo hablar de este con Ondo, Franflat y misterpola, pero este es un online batalla de flat, nada mas. Debemos aceptar los resultados. Perdon, pero este caso es cerrado. Misterpola es muy bueno y conseguira otra oportunidad en las batallas siguientes.
Paz a todos!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Aeons of Flat on August 14, 2009, 07:38:38 AM
your lessons in action
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on August 14, 2009, 09:10:18 AM
flaTTech is the winner! With votes 47 to 4.

Last 1 round battle:

blind

vs

kikouluasv


You have 4 days!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (blind vs kikouluasv)
Post by: Paved Paradise on August 14, 2009, 06:32:02 PM
wow... 4 votes.

anyways congrats on the win flattech.
 
love the smooth riding keep it up.

peaz

Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (blind vs kikouluasv)
Post by: flaTTech on August 14, 2009, 10:30:36 PM
wow... 4 votes.

anyways congrats on the win flattech.
 
love the smooth riding keep it up.

peaz



Thanks, I really enjoyed your riding too,  don't let the vote count bother you, I agree with ondo and Paradoxium, great riding in both runs!  Looking forward to seeing a vid of you in the media section, It would be great if everyone involved in the battles posted some footage from there battle filming sessions..

flattech was throwin down. hot dame!!!

Thanks, I'm really glad you liked the run!

is flattech riding in the middle of a tornado?  ^_^

LOL, I'm really glad you noticed this, and posted it!  I don't think I've rode once this year without it being at least somewhat windy..  On this day a storm was coming in when I was filming and arrived about five minutes after that second combo was pulled(not quite a tornado, but it felt like it when I was riding, lol)..  Also had crazy amounts of rain and cooler weather so far this year..  Seems like summer just started a few days ago with some warmer weather..



Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (blind vs kikouluasv)
Post by: Paved Paradise on August 15, 2009, 07:38:52 AM
thanks for that man. Yea Ill be making something or try might as well. Everyones so great these days and progressing so fast. Just more motivation to ride this battle thing helped me session better also which was nice. It sucks riding alone all the time now and living in vermont, but Ill still represent either way I mean Gabe does. Oh and its great to have some music back again xD
ride hard guys. and keep having Fun ^_^
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: misterpola on August 16, 2009, 12:46:59 AM
It's only the first round so I would think everyone is being super conservative.
yeah, but that's not a problem, because now you can vote someone for something he didn't show on the video, and no one is going to do anything against it!!!!  :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Luke on August 16, 2009, 12:57:50 AM
It's only the first round so I would think everyone is being super conservative.
yeah, but that's not a problem, because now you can vote someone for something he didn't show on the video, and no one is going to do anything against it!!!!  :beer:

seems like some of the fun of the contest is lost  :crash:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: misterpola on August 16, 2009, 01:19:01 AM
It's only the first round so I would think everyone is being super conservative.
yeah, but that's not a problem, because now you can vote someone for something he didn't show on the video, and no one is going to do anything against it!!!!  :beer:

seems like some of the fun of the contest is lost  :crash:

yeah, but we have some injustice to fill that empty space
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (blind vs kikouluasv)
Post by: kikouluasv on August 17, 2009, 05:30:56 PM
I broke my knee on saturday during a jam party, so i can't do the battle, im sorry ondo and good luck to everyone.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (blind vs kikouluasv)
Post by: Luke on August 17, 2009, 08:38:35 PM
I broke my knee on saturday during a jam party, so i can't do the battle, im sorry ondo and good luck to everyone.

bummer, sorry to hear that.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (blind vs kikouluasv)
Post by: ondo on August 17, 2009, 09:50:12 PM
I still need blind's video to give him the victory. Earn it, he he.
Sorry to hear about the knee. One thing is always on my mind- never drink carbonated water or sodas. Carbon dioxide will weaken your bones. That's why nowadays everybody breakes them a lot.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (blind vs kikouluasv)
Post by: ondo on August 17, 2009, 10:04:42 PM
I have to warn you guys in advance.

I'll be away from 21st to 24th august.
I'm going to Estonia, to Extreme Battle. I hope I'll get lucky enough in real battles too(just kidding, no battle format there) :D
So, everything will be paused then, that includes time limits. But I would be grateful if the videos could be sent already.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (blind vs kikouluasv)
Post by: blind on August 18, 2009, 02:15:30 AM
I still need blind's video to give him the victory. Earn it, he he.
Sorry to hear about the knee. One thing is always on my mind- never drink carbonated water or sodas. Carbon dioxide will weaken your bones. That's why nowadays everybody breakes them a lot.


well here is my video. I started practicing  this link during the filming of the first battles hoping there would be another contest. It took a lot of practice and all 4 days of filming to hit it but here it is. I hope none of you get hurt tring this at home. and ondo if these tricks are to hard for this class and u think im sand bagging ill get bumped up a class next contest if u think i should. DSCI0166 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kClKe-xFB84#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (blind vs kikouluasv)
Post by: ondo on August 18, 2009, 09:29:16 AM
He he, Ok. Blind takes an uncontested win!
Enjoy his little video!

DSCI0166 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kClKe-xFB84#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)

1st quarterfinal battle:

ondo

vs

pinoski


The time limit is 1 min!
You have 4 days!


edit: I changed luke vs spix into this battle!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (Luke vs spix)
Post by: Luke on August 18, 2009, 06:21:21 PM
I will not be able to film until this weekend, so I hope you can put the next two riders up or wait till after the weekend.  I will have it ready by Sunday night. Thanks, Luke
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Pinoski)
Post by: spix on August 19, 2009, 10:07:17 PM
what happened?
did ondo change the battle?
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Pinoski)
Post by: ondo on August 19, 2009, 10:11:28 PM
what happened?
did ondo change the battle?

Yeah, Luke is busy now.
And anyway I'll be away from about 21-24. Pinoski will be away till then too, so expert battles are kinda paused already.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Pinoski)
Post by: Luke on August 20, 2009, 04:32:49 AM
 I was able to record tonight so I can upload my video anytime to keep things moving.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Pinoski)
Post by: raddad67 (Mark) on August 21, 2009, 03:37:20 AM
Big thanks to Roy for letting me know about Open Office

http://www.openoffice.org/ (http://www.openoffice.org/)

If you don't have Excel on your pc and you want to see all the stats that have been kept. Get a free copy of openoffice. I just talked with Jake and it worked just fine for him.

http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls (http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls)

Here are the Top 3 in Points for the Expert Class

1st flaTTech 360
2nd ondo 329
3rd ivan-flaterOS 327

Its going to take many votes to catch up with flaTTech. There are going to be some great battles happening!

Keep on Riding!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Pinoski)
Post by: ondo on August 23, 2009, 10:13:50 PM
I will try to film my run tomorrow. If not, then I'll ask myself for another day.

Don't wait for your battle and then just say that you can't ride. Send the video as soon as you can!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Pinoski)
Post by: ondo on August 25, 2009, 08:32:01 AM
Ok, I know that I'm a jerk since I know I'll get a uncontested win. :D
My short video:

battle 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-xvN3KL7nY#normal)

2nd quarterfinal battle:

spix

vs

Luke


You have 4 days!
Run limit is 1 min.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Luke)
Post by: TJ Perry on August 26, 2009, 11:54:51 PM
Someone saw bronson.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Luke)
Post by: ondo on August 26, 2009, 11:59:09 PM
Someone saw bronson.

what's with that movie?
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Luke)
Post by: raddad67 (Mark) on August 27, 2009, 04:35:16 AM
http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls (http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls)

Ondo is now in the lead with 600 points after the Uncontested win.

Keep on Riding!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (spix vs Luke)
Post by: ondo on August 28, 2009, 11:46:04 PM
spix run

global-flat.com online battle - spix vs Luke (http://vimeo.com/6318702)

Luke run

Luke Malone global flat online battle round two (http://www.vimeo.com/6191222)
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on August 28, 2009, 11:51:11 PM
Great links from both of you! Nice!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: spix on August 29, 2009, 12:15:07 AM
wow nice video luke!
great combos! i liked the decade!

i had the most crazy video shooting ever... i had so much fun just trying new stuff in front of the camera.. the stuff you see in my video are brand new tricks from today, never pulled them before (except for the last link). this is why everything is so sketchy:) i have gotten close to 4 whiplashes but i never landed them properly...

what i'm trying to say is, i had the session of the summer today, and i can only thank ondo for it, because this battle motivated me more than anything in a while. so regardless of the outcome, i win:)
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: misterpola on August 29, 2009, 01:05:58 AM
awesome! excellent level from both of you
this is gonna be hard to judge
congratulations to spix and luke!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Luke on August 29, 2009, 02:33:42 PM
wow nice video luke!
great combos! i liked the decade!

i had the most crazy video shooting ever... i had so much fun just trying new stuff in front of the camera.. the stuff you see in my video are brand new tricks from today, never pulled them before (except for the last link). this is why everything is so sketchy:) i have gotten close to 4 whiplashes but i never landed them properly...

what i'm trying to say is, i had the session of the summer today, and i can only thank ondo for it, because this battle motivated me more than anything in a while. so regardless of the outcome, i win:)

Great riding spix, I've never been able to get a new trick or link on tape the first day. You definetly have a great attitude for riding. Thanks to everyone else for the positive comments on our runs.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Paradoxium on August 30, 2009, 01:54:10 PM
Damn, you guys are all good.  :mellow:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: tod miller on August 30, 2009, 06:07:19 PM
Damn, you guys are all good.  :mellow:

+1

This was a hard one for me to decide.  

I think Luke doesn't ever see the sun light and hides in that cave of his all day.  I mean this as a compliment.   :mellow: :ph34r:

Oh, and Spix...congrats on hitting those links for the first time.  Great job!!!!  Awesome, I know you are stoked!  :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: MIKE EVANS on August 30, 2009, 08:52:56 PM
Spix, Ive just got to say, you have impressed the Hell out of me. From the first battles til now show awesome progression. Your first battle vid you ever did, (I think was against TJ) was good, but that wasnt very long ago and you have really got some good new stuff. ;D :beer: :beer:
-MIKE
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: spix on August 30, 2009, 11:36:26 PM
Spix, Ive just got to say, you have impressed the Hell out of me. From the first battles til now show awesome progression. Your first battle vid you ever did, (I think was against TJ) was good, but that wasnt very long ago and you have really got some good new stuff. ;D :beer: :beer:
-MIKE


thanks mike! yes, my first ever battle vid was the one against tj.. well i don't think i have progressed a lot, but these battles motivate me like nothing else.. i push myself to do new stuff all the time and it is a lot of fun:) i already have some new tricks for the next round of battles:)
my progression is slow compared to other riders but i don't mind.. i really like the feeling of getting closer to the ideas i have in my head..
thanks for the positive comments :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: blind on August 31, 2009, 02:32:07 AM
luke u win on music alone. out to get me? so sick.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on August 31, 2009, 01:35:44 PM
Luke wins this battle! Votes 48 : 18.

Next battle:

ivan-flaterOS

vs

flaTTech


You have 4 days!
Time limit 1 min!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ivan-flaterOS vs flaTTech)
Post by: raddad67 (Mark) on August 31, 2009, 02:06:07 PM
http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls (http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls)

Updated!

Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ivan-flaterOS vs flaTTech)
Post by: spix on August 31, 2009, 06:25:06 PM
congrats Luke! rock on!
i'm going out to ride now:)
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ivan-flaterOS vs flaTTech)
Post by: ondo on September 04, 2009, 11:04:00 PM
ivan-flaterOS run

Sonic in battle 2 (http://www.vimeo.com/6345716)

flaTTech run

Global-Flat Expert Round 2 Quarter Finals (http://www.vimeo.com/6435978)
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on September 04, 2009, 11:11:16 PM
Wow, at last some action. And a pretty tough choice.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: MIKE EVANS on September 04, 2009, 11:23:36 PM
Good runs guys. Nice from both of you, but Holy sh*t. Ivan That was some sick riding. If you advance, I cant wait to see what tops that!
Props to both of you,
-MIKE
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: tod miller on September 05, 2009, 09:14:27 PM
Hot damn, some more action!  First off, awesome riding by both of you guys...this battle is going to be a hard one to judge.

Ivan...that last trick was awesome!  Love your fast, loose style.  Riding with power and authority!

FlaTTech.  Amazing links!  You got those tricks dialed in, and look extra polished. What's the G-Turn variation called?  Double G-Turn?  G-Turn in, G-Turn out.  Love it.

Ondo, can I vote for both? Ha, ha.  
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Paved Paradise on September 05, 2009, 09:16:55 PM
 :beer: sick riding guys! keeps me so pumped.
Ivan man I like your riding alot, keep it up man
and that last one handed breakless decade wha wha :ph34r:
Jeff keep progressing man stuff looks good.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Maxandre on September 06, 2009, 11:42:52 AM
Amazing riding guys!!!

what's the song of your vid ivan??

keep rockin like this!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Paradoxium on September 06, 2009, 02:33:48 PM
Both those vids were off the charts, gee you guys sure make it hard to vote. Damn.  Ivan is the fastest progressor I've seen and Flattech has a massive trick list. Both so dialled.  :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ivan-flaterOS on September 06, 2009, 05:58:45 PM
Hey guys!
Thanks for the great comments,it really keeps me motivated.Great video flaTTech,lookin good :mellow:
The song in my vid.... The Glitch Mob-Boreta Bubblin in the Cut
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on September 07, 2009, 06:40:31 AM
ivan-flaterOS wins! Votes 36 : 14

Next battle:

blind

vs

franflat


You have 4 days
Run limit is 1 min
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (blind vs franflat)
Post by: raddad67 (Mark) on September 07, 2009, 07:53:19 AM
http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls (http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls)

Updated.


Here is a qucik over veiw Recap

Ivan is at the Top of the Expert Leader Board with 655 points
Luke is not far behind with 654 points

They Both will be facing off in Battle #14

History

Very interesting when you look at the numbers because in Prelim

Ivan recieved 45 votes
Luke recieve 36 votes

Quater finals

Ivan recieved 36 votes
Luke recieved 48 votes

By the numbers that are both evenly matched. This will no doubt be a very close match. Good luck to you both!!

Ondo will either face Blind or Franflat.

I love watching how all this plays out.

I provided the Brackets for your easy viewing pleasure. Click the above link to get all the stats and info.

Keep on Riding!!

Mark
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (blind vs franflat)
Post by: flaTTech on September 07, 2009, 05:08:33 PM
Thanks for all the great comments for both of us!  tod.borndead, really glad you commented on that g-turn, it's a crazy difficult trick and I was wondering if anyone really noticed it..  I don't know what it would be called but it is a carved nosewheelie turbined into a g-turn..  My ultimate goal would be to get it going foward again after rolling backwards(No kicks just turbine), but that next step makes it almost impossible without a kick to get it going foward again..

I'm trying to keep the progression going as hard as I can Justin.  These battles were a fun way to push myself, although I didn't get most of the stuff done thats in my head, ha!  My goal for these battles was every trick I submitted was going to be new for me or at least pushed one step further..  Considering I originaly signed up mainly to keep everyone in the battles, I'm happy how it pushed me some..

Paradoxium, I'm glad people appreciate my wide range of riding, my riding is ALL over the place.. This does make it more difficult to really push certain styles or tricks to that next level were certain tricks would really stand out.  I would like ALOT more time then 45 sec. and 1 min. lol!

Glad you liked my run Ivan..  You are a beast on that bike, Insane!  Against your run if I at least made people think about who they were going to vote for, then I did good..  And I got some votes, so at least I made people think some.. I was happy about my brakeless rolaid and then I saw you open with one from back peg, instantly thought damn that beats mine, lol!

It has been fun.. Thanks ondo for running these, raddad67 for the cool excel sheets, and paved_paradise and ivan-flaterOS for the battles!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (blind vs franflat)
Post by: raddad67 (Mark) on September 07, 2009, 11:18:20 PM
http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls (http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls)

Last night when I was making the update I was comparing stats. I was thinking it would be cool if I could type a 2 names in and the spread sheet would give me stats. Thats exacly what I have been working on all day today.

For those who don't already know...YOU TUBE can teach you a ton of stuff. Everthing I have put into this sheet I have learned from You Tube these past few months. Any how you don't even have to type in names you can use a drop down list and do a rider comparision. It works only for the class that your looking at. I don't see much of a need to compare class to class as of yet. Anyhow here is what I basicly typed out last night generated by the spred sheet....NIFFTY!


Keep on Riding!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (blind vs franflat)
Post by: ondo on September 07, 2009, 11:24:55 PM
hah, getting real naughty with excel
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (blind vs franflat)
Post by: blind on September 10, 2009, 02:07:23 AM
hello im at an internet cafe on a small island in mexico at the moment. no real way I can film anything.wish I could if u need to move along with the contest I understand. will be back in the states on friday.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (blind vs franflat)
Post by: ondo on September 10, 2009, 08:49:02 AM
Uh, wow. I won't put any other battles now, because this is the last quarterfinal battle.
Oh well.

franflat takes an uncontested win!

Here is his video:

franflat quartefinals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjaPeQB6HyU#ws-normal)

1st semifinal battle:

Luke

vs

ivan-flaterOS


Time limit is 4 days!
Run limit is 1min 15sec!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (Luke vs ivan-flaterOS)
Post by: ivan-flaterOS on September 10, 2009, 10:46:09 AM
Damn...I just made a videao like a week ago hehe didnt have time to think of something new...but I"ll give it a go :P
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (Luke vs ivan-flaterOS)
Post by: MIKE EVANS on September 10, 2009, 11:17:47 AM
Damn...I just made a videao like a week ago hehe didnt have time to think of something new...but I"ll give it a go :P
Dont sweat it bro. Personally I have no doubt you will come up with a winner. You have got some awesome skills.
-MIKE
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (Luke vs ivan-flaterOS)
Post by: Luke on September 10, 2009, 12:19:14 PM
Ondo sorry but there is no way my video will be ready in 4 days, today is thursday and I hope to be able to film on sunday.

Dont sweat it bro. Personally I have no doubt you will come up with a winner. You have got some awesome skills.
-MIKE

Mike thanks for the vote of confidence :angry:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (Luke vs ivan-flaterOS)
Post by: raddad67 (Mark) on September 10, 2009, 12:47:36 PM
http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls (http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls)

Updated with newstats.

Welcome to the Expert Semi Final Battles!!

Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (Luke vs ivan-flaterOS)
Post by: ivan-flaterOS on September 10, 2009, 01:24:29 PM
Ondo sorry but there is no way my video will be ready in 4 days, today is thursday and I hope to be able to film on sunday.

I have the same problem right now...could we get more time to film this?
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (Luke vs ivan-flaterOS)
Post by: ondo on September 10, 2009, 02:53:24 PM
Is the weekend so busy? Film it on sunday, post it on monday.
An extra day of course. Later let's see if you need more.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (Luke vs ivan-flaterOS)
Post by: Luke on September 10, 2009, 03:13:57 PM
Ok sounds good Ondo.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (Luke vs ivan-flaterOS)
Post by: raddad67 (Mark) on September 12, 2009, 03:53:57 AM
http://www.bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.htm (http://www.bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.htm)

Web Link is working again!!!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (Luke vs ivan-flaterOS)
Post by: ondo on September 14, 2009, 05:25:57 PM
Luke run

Global Flat semifinal flatland battle run Luke Malone (http://www.vimeo.com/6563557)

ivan-flaterOS run

Sonic spinning (http://www.vimeo.com/6570829)
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on September 14, 2009, 05:28:58 PM
For those who are wondering why Ivan sent this simple video, a message to me:

"Hey ondo...heres my video...I didnt really have time to come up with new tricks or to ride in general so I just made short little video....better then nothing hehe so I dont expect to win ;D "

Anyway, Luke, great riding!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Pralex on September 14, 2009, 07:20:25 PM
Longest combo award goes to Luke, goddamn!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Wouter van der Linde on September 14, 2009, 08:22:01 PM
Fastest spinning combo goes to ivan
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: tod miller on September 15, 2009, 07:29:33 AM
Does anyone even know who this Luke guy is...he's like a mad scientist working in his lab, and never sees the light of day.   ;D :beer:

Ivan...you spin fast bro, don't know how you don't get dizzy. 

Awesome riding from both of you guys...
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on September 16, 2009, 06:53:34 PM
Luke is one of the finalists! Votes 46 : 8

Next battle for the final:

ondo

vs

franflat

4 days!
Run limit 1min 15sec
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs franflat )
Post by: ondo on September 16, 2009, 06:55:16 PM
O yeah, I have my links almost filmed already.

The battle for the 3rd will be next and the battle for 1st afterwards.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs franflat )
Post by: ondo on September 18, 2009, 12:41:12 AM
! Listen up !

Got the prize list! Keep you guys motivated, he he
The prizes are less for the lower groups, because we had to create the 4th group and also I didn't get additional sponsors, but hey, maybe next time. I don't know where is the dvd's and books from, but tires are from KHE! Thanks! Props to martin who got all this!

Master
1st Place: 2 tires
2nd Flat Kings Book
3rd Diversion DVD

Expert
1st Place: 2 tires
2nd Flat Kings Book
3rd Diversion DVD

Intermediate
1st Place: 1 tire
2nd Flat Kings Book
3rd Diversion DVD

Beginner
1st Place: 1 Tire
2nd Place: Diversion DVD
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs franflat )
Post by: ondo on September 18, 2009, 03:46:57 PM
ondo run

global-flat.com semifinal battle- ondo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EybRulL9fNo#normal)

franflat run

Franflat semifinals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV1rxs9ig0w#ws-normal)
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on September 18, 2009, 03:49:21 PM
Oh, damn. This is gonna be great! I was so happy to pull that last link, so I was dancing.
Nice run franflat!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ivan-flaterOS on September 18, 2009, 03:53:33 PM
Amazing stuff ondo :beer:
And a great run franflat :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Talisayflat on September 18, 2009, 04:52:43 PM
ondo vs luke on finals! wow!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on September 18, 2009, 07:28:12 PM
And I hope that this time, franflat, your friends aren't voting for you
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: franciscofromperu on September 18, 2009, 07:46:15 PM
Hi Ondo, don't care about this, I think we made a nice vids, and the public can judge this for the different links in our vids.
I like the start of your vid, i want to put 3 combos but I can't cause i never can make a little combo.
I wish you the best too Ondo

Kind regards
Franflat
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: misterpola on September 18, 2009, 08:04:10 PM
And I hope that this time, franflat, your friends aren't voting for you
Hey guys, I'm new in this, but both of you are amazing, wish the best for us guys.
Really nice combos, Ondo the last link was amazing.
Franflat the jump of the halfpacker looks great

Jeremias

too late...
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: flatargento on September 18, 2009, 08:08:14 PM
And I hope that this time, franflat, your friends aren't voting for you
Hey guys, I'm new in this, but both of you are amazing, wish the best for us guys.
Really nice combos, Ondo the last link was amazing.
Franflat the jump of the halfpacker looks great

Jeremias

too late...

Im dissapointed again -.-   ... Anyway! Good luck to both of you guys. I just voted...  :ph34r:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on September 18, 2009, 08:38:16 PM
Hi Ondo, don't care about this, I think we made a nice vids, and the public can judge this for the different links in our vids.
I like the start of your vid, i want to put 3 combos but I can't cause i never can make a little combo.
I wish you the best too Ondo

Kind regards
Franflat

Yeah, that's cool.  :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: misterpola on September 18, 2009, 09:30:58 PM
(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5381/franflat.png)

ok, that's enough. Who do you think he voted for?
I've got only one word to say: DISQUALIFICATION

I hope you're happy franflat, for ruining this competition.

And i want everybody to see that I WAS RIGHT
He cheated.

f*cking loser
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on September 18, 2009, 10:43:28 PM
Ondo, please forgive for my mistake, i usually stay in my laptop always connected, and is my costume answer the post inmediatelly, this my mistake.

Ok, I understand this.

I don't know his mail is like this, he doesn't have too much in this, but what is the problem for me with this? is his option to put the email addres that he likes for this.

But I don't understand this. This is the thing you must explain!

Why does "he" has your e-mail address?

I didn't get 21 votes, maybe I can get 100.

100 would be too suspicious. I'll check the voting later, I got it.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on September 18, 2009, 11:01:15 PM
as misterpola said: is he such a huge fan of you to have e-mail as your nickname :D
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: misterpola on September 18, 2009, 11:20:44 PM
Ok, let's see what do you have to say about this.
You say that the following email adress does not belongs to you: franflatperu@yahoo.com , it belongs to your friend
I wrote from the new account of Jeremias, I don't know his mail is like this, he doesn't have too much in this, but what is the problem for me with this? is his option to put the email addres that he likes for this.


Let's check it out.
1º, go to yahoo.com, and click "i forgot my passowrd" than follow instructions, as seen in this pictures:

(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9886/yahoo1.png)

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/479/yahoo2y.png)

(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6518/yahoo5.png)

Oups, it asks us for an alternate email... let's try with mine (which obviously is not the correct one)
Look what happens:

(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3444/yahoo6.png)

Now, let's try with franflat's email:

nope ondo, he doesn't has my mail addres, my mail addres is the next:
francisco.lindo@gmail.com
flatciscoperu@hotmail.com


(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5835/yahoo3.png)

(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/4554/yahoo4.png)

Magically, no error message.

Sooooo, your friend uses your name to create his account, AND uses your email as an alternate mail?

what a huge coincidence man
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on September 18, 2009, 11:23:55 PM


WOW.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: Bomber Moran on September 18, 2009, 11:44:20 PM
I really dont want to be involved with this, but I think misterpola has a point.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: That Joe Miller on September 19, 2009, 12:12:04 AM
BUSTED!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: flatsteez on September 19, 2009, 01:17:51 AM
So anyways.
I am making it public. I had to give it to ondo super smooth bro. I can't wait to see your next vid.
Fran flat was amazing to but just not as good.


P.s. get some cranks. ;D :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: joshs. on September 19, 2009, 02:19:35 AM
So anyways.
I am making it public. I had to give it to ondo super smooth bro. I can't wait to see your next vid.
Fran flat was amazing to but just not as good.


P.s. get some cranks. ;D :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:


+1
that trick at 52 sec was awesome! my fav! but you lose a few points becuz of no crank. :P
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: flatsteez on September 19, 2009, 02:33:48 AM
So anyways.
I am making it public. I had to give it to ondo super smooth bro. I can't wait to see your next vid.
Fran flat was amazing to but just not as good.


P.s. get some cranks. ;D :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:


+1
that trick at 52 sec was awesome! my fav! but you lose a few points becuz of no crank. :P


Right.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: SERGI8 on September 19, 2009, 03:02:16 AM
very nice run ondo. Love the wiplashes  :beer: :beer: :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: fedee_flat on September 20, 2009, 05:45:35 AM
I want to apologize to the community about this mistake, I'm visited the house of jeremias, his full name is Francisco Jeremias Lazuri Barrientos,  his a big friend of me, and he knows everything about flat for me, but when I saw the post of Ondo, saying something about the last post of Misterpolla, I wrote from the new account of Jeremias, I don't know his mail is like this, he doesn't have too much in this, but what is the problem for me with this? is his option to put the email addres that he likes for this.
When I saw my reply and looked the author was his account, I erase this, and enter to my account for wrote something to ondo, maybe this can be very confussed but this is the true, if I create a looot of accounts, I didn't get 21 votes, maybe I can get 100. so Ondo, please forgive for my mistake, i usually stay in my laptop always connected, and is my costume answer the post inmediatelly, this my mistake.
for other way, misterpola, you hate me a lot, you are a big fan of me, this post don't be in the page for more than one minute I think and you can copy and paste??
wow men, you're the person was martin looks.

And by the way, call me f*cking looser?? are you insane little piece of sh*t??
Can you tell me when is the contest in Argentina for kick your fuc**ng ass in the bike and kick your as**ole face in front of?
start to think the weight of your words.
Mocoso hijo de p**a. te voy a partir la madre
anda a escuchar reggaeton
venite a argentina para el contest y en la primera que lo toques al misterpola a vos te voy a agarrar yo , te quiero ver en mi pais pudriendola y ahi vemos quien le parte la madre a quien ;)

ondo !! you have win bro!!
you ride is exelent

greetings

fede
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: misterpola on September 20, 2009, 06:51:32 AM
easy guys, i just checked that I have proofs to say he cheated, but I also have proofs to say he didn't. Forget about this.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on September 20, 2009, 08:14:22 AM
that trick at 52 sec was awesome! my fav! but you lose a few points becuz of no crank. :P

That's ok to loose few points for that. I got them over 9000. :D
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: DaviD (dave0) on September 20, 2009, 05:04:18 PM
Ondo you naab get cranks  ^_^.

with that being said, despite crankless your stuff are way harder than franflats... so i actually must vote for you  :angry:


 :wub:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!)
Post by: ondo on September 20, 2009, 05:57:11 PM
ondo is the second finalist!

Battle for the 3rd place!

franflat

vs

ivan-flaterOS

You have 4 days! If you need more- just say.

Run limit is 1min 30 sec!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (franflat vs ivan-flaterOS)
Post by: MIKE EVANS on September 20, 2009, 09:08:00 PM
Though Im highly opposed to riding with no cranks due to the fact that I dont consider it a bike without them, I just want to point out something about Ondos choice of no cranks. For every trick that he has that is easier without cranks, there is a trick he will NEVER be able to do without cranks. No pedalling deathtrucks. No Pedalling mega spins. None of the combos of these tricks.

There are tons of tricks that he will NEVER be able to do, so in the end he is only limiting himself. So let him ride with no cranks, you dont have to respect his choice, but just let it go. Its been beaten to death already. He rides crankless, he has no intentions on getting cranks regardless of how much crap he gets about it. Lets just put the whole crankless issue to bed already.

Nice runs from both guys. I did vote for Ondo, and I want it on record that it had NOTHING to do with the Franflat controversy. I legitimately just liked Ondos run better. Good luck in the finals Ondo. Sonic, lets see some of that magic in this battle for third now. LOL Good luck to you as well Franflat. Id like to see you mix it up between front and backwheel again like in your second run.

-MIKE
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (franflat vs ivan-flaterOS)
Post by: ondo on September 20, 2009, 10:54:38 PM
Though Im highly opposed to riding with no cranks due to the fact that I dont consider it a bike without them, I just want to point out something about Ondos choice of no cranks. For every trick that he has that is easier without cranks, there is a trick he will NEVER be able to do without cranks. No pedalling deathtrucks. No Pedalling mega spins. None of the combos of these tricks.

There are tons of tricks that he will NEVER be able to do, so in the end he is only limiting himself. So let him ride with no cranks, you dont have to respect his choice, but just let it go. Its been beaten to death already. He rides crankless, he has no intentions on getting cranks regardless of how much crap he gets about it. Lets just put the whole crankless issue to bed already.

No nose manuals. That's the best trick I really miss. :D But instead I'll learn back peg nose manual- it's sick.
I like this limiting in some way. Love to make things simpler in life.
I still don't know, maybe I'll put them on someday.

Anyway, thanks.

Oh, forgot: ondo won with votes 49 : 33.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (franflat vs ivan-flaterOS)
Post by: dogzilla on September 21, 2009, 01:12:10 AM
Ondo I rode without cranks for a while, and my old bike still doesn't have a pair.  You should set up a 3rd pair of pegs. ^_^  I ghetto rigged mine to my axel with the screws from my crank arms.  This one doesn't even have a seat anymore but I still ride it just as much as my other bike with cranks and everything. ;D
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5287/noname3l.jpg)
Awesome run by the way.   :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (franflat vs ivan-flaterOS)
Post by: ondo on September 21, 2009, 07:49:39 AM
Ondo I rode without cranks for a while, and my old bike still doesn't have a pair.  You should set up a 3rd pair of pegs. ^_^  I ghetto rigged mine to my axel with the screws from my crank arms.  This one doesn't even have a seat anymore but I still ride it just as much as my other bike with cranks and everything. ;D

Awesome run by the way.   :beer:

Yea, I was thinking to put pegs too.
Thanks!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (franflat vs ivan-flaterOS)
Post by: dogzilla on September 22, 2009, 02:02:29 AM
I'm not sure how you'd set them up.  My bikes old so it still has the cups for the berrings.  all i did was screw the cups together with out the berrings so it wouldn't roll then just screwed them to the end of the axles.  If you can figure it out they're pretty fun to roll around on.  Right now I only have the axle to stand on since I had to put my pegs back on my other bike.  I don't see why people have problems with people who don't like to ride with cranks.  Its just stupid if you ask me.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (franflat vs ivan-flaterOS)
Post by: raddad67 (Mark) on September 23, 2009, 01:43:03 AM
Check out the Final Battle Line Up. Strickly talking from the Stats...it could go either way.

Experts Class. Please send in your photo for your trading cards. I will be the expert class next. Beginner and Intermediate are done!! WHooaaaa

Get all the stats and a TON of trading cards from the speadsheet.

Excel File
http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls (http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls)

Web Page
http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.htm (http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.htm)

Keep on Riding!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (franflat vs ivan-flaterOS)
Post by: raddad67 (Mark) on September 23, 2009, 07:06:04 AM
About Halfway through Expert Class

Excel File
http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls (http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls)

Web Page
http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.htm (http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.htm)

Its definatly eaier than the first few..hahha
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (franflat vs ivan-flaterOS)
Post by: ondo on September 27, 2009, 10:02:47 PM
Mixed news:
bad- ivan-flaterOS couldn't fix his bike, so he can't post anything.
good- franflat takes a uncontested victory!

Franflat gets 3rd place! Congrats!

His video:

franflat battle for third or fourth place (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNgEJ7iNAXo#ws-normal)

Final battle:

ondo

vs

Luke

4 days!
run limit 1min 30sec
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Luke) final!
Post by: raddad67 (Mark) on September 27, 2009, 11:50:43 PM
Excel File
http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls (http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.xls)

Web Page
http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.htm (http://bmxfreestyler.com/globalflabattles.htm)


Spread Sheet is now updated.

Keep on Riding!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (ondo vs Luke) final!
Post by: ondo on October 01, 2009, 12:06:03 PM
ondo run

global-flat.com round 2 final battle- ondo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZuUhdeWrMc#normal)

Luke run

Global Flat Expert Final Battle Luke Malone (http://vimeo.com/6842968)
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: ondo on October 01, 2009, 12:09:10 PM
sorry for the far away camera, just didn't want to go out of frames!

x footed juggler ftw
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: Moya-1 on October 01, 2009, 12:15:28 PM
amazing ondo
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: raddad67 (Mark) on October 01, 2009, 01:36:08 PM
O my gosh...This is going to be hard...I can't vote yet. WoW I need to watch them both again when I get home from work. WOW. This is going to be a very very close battle!!

Keep on Riding!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: Nails on October 01, 2009, 01:43:47 PM
Ondo whats the song playing in your video? I liked it heaps!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: ondo on October 01, 2009, 01:58:31 PM
Ondo whats the song playing in your video? I liked it heaps!

José González - Down The Line
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: Gensanity on October 01, 2009, 03:02:35 PM
hard vote

double boomerang is sweeeeeeeeet  :P
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: flatargento on October 01, 2009, 03:30:32 PM
My vote goes to Luke, very smooth and long combos.

Ondo, you really surprised me... f*ck, add some cranks and you will be one day a top rider for sure! I'm looking forward seeing more stuff from you  :mellow:.
I've rode crankless for one year (But not because I wanted to  :angry:), and believe me... Using cranks it's even easier... Congratulations on your fast progress.

Excellent riding from both sides, it's was very hard for me to vote.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: *Fo* on October 01, 2009, 03:43:20 PM
wow ondo!!! that was really sick and professional... i reaaaaally love your style!  :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: Talisayflat on October 01, 2009, 03:48:45 PM
wow! great riders!  voted ;D
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: alex@H on October 01, 2009, 04:04:57 PM
wow, this is a close one! great rinding by both of you
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: Bomber Moran on October 01, 2009, 04:25:56 PM
A very hard decision. This will be tough.. ^_^

15-15 at time of this post..
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: stopkaiross on October 01, 2009, 04:49:33 PM
*claps* awesome!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: Mark McGrade on October 01, 2009, 05:07:00 PM
Holy crap guys AWESOME!!!!
I'm leaning a little bit more towards Luke....very smooooooth!  :mellow:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: tod miller on October 01, 2009, 05:16:24 PM
I'm giving this one to Luke because he finally made it out of the garage and got some fresh air. :rolleyes: :P

But seriously...Ondo...nice progression!  I can really see that you have that drive to learn.

And Luke always has smooth as butter combos...he just looks polished.

Close battle here...

Good luck to the both of you. :beer: ;D
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: Koshtrik on October 01, 2009, 07:30:39 PM
Yeah !
It's action)
Clap to both
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: misterpola on October 01, 2009, 07:54:53 PM
ondo you progressed a lot since the beginning of this batlles
And luke, always so clean and smooth

This is going to be hard
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: ondo on October 01, 2009, 09:24:27 PM
Thanks guys.
I'm proud already that you think it's hard to vote between me and Luke.
That's right..Almost all the stuff I learned during this battle round.
The last 2 battles really got me motivated! Of course with a bit of frustration..

Ohh yeah, I'm in lead!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: spix on October 01, 2009, 09:33:47 PM
wow great videos by both of you!
ondo you really suprised me, amazing progression! keep on!
and luke, the backwards rolling combo was really nice, i'm learning backwards rolling right now :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: ondo on October 01, 2009, 09:37:35 PM
I can't stop laughing about my "pedaling" at the end.
That's for haters :D
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: Talisayflat on October 01, 2009, 09:43:27 PM
good job in pissing the haters  haha:wacko:
to each his own :mellow:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: Paradoxium on October 02, 2009, 12:48:50 AM
Ondo and Luke, congrats, you guys are both sooo good and I can't believe how much you've progressed since starting this competition Ondo.  :mellow:  :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: DaviD (dave0) on October 02, 2009, 01:37:07 AM
My vote goes for ondo, even without cranks what he does is sh*t hard  ^_^

luke does ride pretty smooth, but a few backwheel drops here and there kinda mess up the perfect smoothness  :P

crazy ass spinning that ondo did is hard to hang on to  -_-
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: Luke on October 02, 2009, 02:58:34 AM
Thanks for the mostly positive comments guys, It was fun being able to participate with out really ever needing to leave the house. I don't get to ride outside very often because I have a family and all the responsibilities that go along with that so that's the reason for the garage vids.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: tod miller on October 02, 2009, 04:11:20 AM
Thanks for the mostly positive comments guys, It was fun being able to participate with out really ever needing to leave the house. I don't get to ride outside very often because I have a family and all the responsibilities that go along with that so that's the reason for the garage vids.

Hey, props to you for not only your riding, but learning and knowing how to "juggle" all those things in life. 

I made a few comments about your garage riding...but I hope you know that I was only kiddin' around.  Hope you didn't take it the wrong way!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: ondo on October 02, 2009, 09:31:28 AM
I hope I'm the only one having problems watching my video @ youtube. Anyway, here is vimeo:

global-flat.com round 2 final battle-ondo (http://vimeo.com/6847705)
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: flatlandpercy on October 02, 2009, 09:46:47 AM
WOA!  You guys are nuts.
I had to watch both videos quite a few times to
get the right vote in.
Ondo, that x-footed juggler is HARD!
Luke, double boomerang YES!
good job you two.  you have both inspired me :)
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: Mareks From Riga on October 02, 2009, 11:37:43 AM
I vote for Luke.
Why?
Beacuse I know how rides Ondo and when I will see how Ondo ride with cranks I will Vote for U.

Ondo that was the best video what i am seen.  And i think you need -10 votes for crankless
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: Luke on October 02, 2009, 12:14:40 PM
you tube
global flat expert final battle luke malone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARoQzCmPfLY#normal)
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: Sagaris on October 02, 2009, 03:53:23 PM
Man, this is close!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: Wouter van der Linde on October 02, 2009, 10:09:40 PM
those turbining hitchhikers are so sexy luke!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: raddad67 (Mark) on October 03, 2009, 12:02:44 AM
Here is a Stat that I just noticed

Highest Personal Votes during a Battle in Expert Class goes to Ondo with 49 Votes
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: ondo on October 03, 2009, 12:12:31 PM
Congrats! Expert battles are over! Winner is Luke! In a close battle with votes 40 : 36.

1st Luke (2 khe tires)

2nd ondo (flat kings book)

3rd franflat (diversion dvd)

Thanks everyone for watching, voting and participating! This competition was much smoother than the previous.
Keep the battles going. Now it's final in the beginner group!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group. OVER. Winner- Luke
Post by: ANDREWBMXFLATLAND4LIFE on October 03, 2009, 01:03:25 PM
congrats on your run luke,it was a tough battle for everyone
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group. OVER. Winner- Luke
Post by: dreamcatcher on October 03, 2009, 03:56:46 PM
Nice
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group. OVER. Winner- Luke
Post by: flaTTech on October 03, 2009, 04:57:13 PM
What a great way to end the Round 2 final expert battles, great runs from both of you!  And such a close vote too..

Congrats to Luke for getting to that 1st place position! 

And also to everyone else who submitted some amazing riding in there battle runs!
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group. OVER. Winner- Luke
Post by: Luke on October 03, 2009, 06:39:28 PM
Thanks to everyone that voted and for all the expert riders that competed. All the riders had awesome videos and I know it's very hard to vote because of all the different styles and tricks.

Ondo you really impressed me a lot with your final video :beer: :beer:  and props for organizing the whole contest.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group. OVER. Winner- Luke
Post by: raddad67 (Mark) on October 03, 2009, 07:50:54 PM
Here are some cool stats

Expert class has the most vote participation      
Luke is at the top of the leader board with 1319 points      
Luke has a 186 point lead over 2nd place rider ondo         
Highest Personal Votes goes to Ondo with 49 in Semi Final Battle
Luke had a total of 170 Votes

The Global-Flat online battles Rule!

Keep on Riding!!

Mark
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group. OVER. Winner- Luke
Post by: raddad67 (Mark) on October 03, 2009, 08:22:22 PM
The Next 4
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group. OVER. Winner- Luke
Post by: raddad67 (Mark) on October 03, 2009, 08:23:59 PM
Next 4
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group. OVER. Winner- Luke
Post by: raddad67 (Mark) on October 03, 2009, 08:26:33 PM
last 4. This is the Entier Collection of the Expert Class!

Keep on Riding!!!

Mark
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group. OVER. Winner- Luke
Post by: Koshtrik on October 03, 2009, 09:47:38 PM
wait for next battle :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group. OVER. Winner- Luke
Post by: ondo on October 03, 2009, 10:43:36 PM
Ondo you really impressed me a lot with your final video :beer: :beer:  and props for organizing the whole contest.

Thanks! I felt really punished when watched your video :D
Well, I really did my best!
Wait for the next one! 1st place goes to masters hahaha! busted! :D
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group. OVER. Winner- Luke
Post by: SurfonFlatland on October 04, 2009, 12:46:16 AM
The final results are confusing.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group. OVER. Winner- Luke
Post by: ondo on October 04, 2009, 08:33:59 AM
The final results are confusing.

in what way?
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group. OVER. Winner- Luke
Post by: Nails on October 04, 2009, 10:52:31 AM
congrats both of you :D I liked both your videos a lot! I love the online battles, maybe I'll enter one once I get some more tricks dialed :D
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: SurfonFlatland on October 04, 2009, 10:24:08 PM
The final results are confusing.

in what way?

Because every single one of your links was cleaner, more difficult, you had more control over your tricks, and you never held one too long.
All in all, your stuff was much more difficult.  I want to know what standards were used in the voting process for some.  A few reasons why some should not be allowed to vote:

I vote for Luke.
Why?
Beacuse I know how rides Ondo and when I will see how Ondo ride with cranks I will Vote for U.Ondo ride with cranks I will Vote for U.

Ondo that was the best video what i am seen.  And i think you need -10 votes for crankless

You are f*cking kidding right?

I'm giving this one to Luke because he finally made it out of the garage and got some fresh air. :rolleyes: :P



Because he got out of the garage, despite Ondo having harder tricks, you vote for him?


Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: ondo on October 05, 2009, 07:18:15 AM

Because every single one of your links was cleaner, more difficult, you had more control over your tricks, and you never held one too long.
All in all, your stuff was much more difficult.  I want to know what standards were used in the voting process for some.  A few reasons why some should not be allowed to vote:

I vote for Luke.
Why?
Beacuse I know how rides Ondo and when I will see how Ondo ride with cranks I will Vote for U.Ondo ride with cranks I will Vote for U.

Ondo that was the best video what i am seen.  And i think you need -10 votes for crankless

Well, he's my friend and anyway he liked Luke's run. And yeah, he's saying: crankless easy bla bla.

And about the smoothness, I think Luke really has it. He has dialed it all. Although I can be just as smooth just doing opposite whiplashes to hang 5.   :P
Some things were harder, some not.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group. OVER. Winner- Luke
Post by: SurfonFlatland on October 05, 2009, 06:25:43 PM
Your tricks were harder, period.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group (voting active!) final!
Post by: tod miller on October 05, 2009, 06:47:24 PM
The final results are confusing.

in what way?

Because every single one of your links was cleaner, more difficult, you had more control over your tricks, and you never held one too long.
All in all, your stuff was much more difficult.  I want to know what standards were used in the voting process for some.  A few reasons why some should not be allowed to vote:

I vote for Luke.
Why?
Beacuse I know how rides Ondo and when I will see how Ondo ride with cranks I will Vote for U.Ondo ride with cranks I will Vote for U.

Ondo that was the best video what i am seen.  And i think you need -10 votes for crankless

You are f*cking kidding right?

I'm giving this one to Luke because he finally made it out of the garage and got some fresh air. :rolleyes: :P



Because he got out of the garage, despite Ondo having harder tricks, you vote for him?




It was a joke.  Hence, the rolleyes and tongue sticking out of face thingie.  I even followed it with "In all seriousness".    I wouldn't vote on someone just because they got out of the garage...just like I don't hold it against Ondo for riding crankless.

And why would you be so insulting as the ask why some people are allowed to vote?   "Old school thinking" isn't killing flat...elitist attitudes are.  To me, the beauty of these online battles are that everyone can vote.  These battles are very DYI and are inclusive to everyday people/riders.  It takes all kinds...

And I feel flatland is a very subjective matter...some people like a smooth, stylish run more than hard tricks.   I enjoyed BOTH of their videos...for different reasons.  They both killed it!  Ondo has progressed so much, and hits really difficult tricks.  Luke, at least to me, has a very polished a dialed approach to his riding.  He makes it look easy and smooth.

Don't want to argue...just wanted you to know that I was joking.
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group. OVER. Winner- Luke
Post by: tod miller on October 05, 2009, 06:50:26 PM
Thanks Ondo for doing these battles.  You might have lost this round of battles...but I think it's pretty obvious how much you have progressed, and how much motivation these battles have given you...so in the end, you still win! :beer:
Title: Re: ROUND2 battle: EXPERT group. OVER. Winner- Luke
Post by: Talisayflat on October 05, 2009, 09:03:06 PM
i voted for ondo. why? because i based on all his runs from the qualifying to the quarters and through the finals and each run has different hard tricks. check it to appreciate ;D