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English => General Flatland Forum => Topic started by: Martti on July 05, 2009, 01:46:12 PM
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Just been wondering why there is only less than 3 people doing kickflip style in the world? :huh: I am dissapointed that kickflip style never broke through. :rolleyes:
Stay hard:
new conexion new frame 2008 by kgb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXcaeSZgbnQ&feature=channel_page#ws-lq)
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:ph34r:
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KGB gives a free frame to the first guy who comes up with a video here with 3 different kicflips in the same combo.
Or,
first guy who comes up with an original style kickflip.
And, big surprise give away for the one who comes up with a 3 different combos and each combo contains:
1 kickflip
2 original switches (unseen)
Personality in all combos is a must.
Also a special price for the one who shows in the video at least a good try. And if someone blows our minds with a completely new style, letīs talk more what we do about it. Ok guys, I want to see you show your skills. Thanks!
Sponsors:
www.kgbflat.com (http://www.kgbflat.com)
www.costo.fi (http://www.costo.fi)
-Martti & Viki
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so lets start tryng kikflips hahaha
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so lets start tryng kikflips hahaha
Please do so! We want to see new blood going strong. Martti
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with your back wheel i can do whatever... hahahhaha
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with your back wheel i can do whatever... hahahhaha
At least you got the backwheel. I felt bad for you loosing rest of the back end of my bike...
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Well here you go, KGB sponsoring a "progression video". How dope is that! Very cool.
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KGB gives a free frame to the first guy who comes up with a video here with 3 different kicflips in the same combo.
Or,
first guy who comes up with an original style kickflip.
And, big surprise give away for the one who comes up with a 3 different combos and each combo contains:
1 kickflip
2 original switches (unseen)
Personality in all combos is a must.
Also a special price for the one who shows in the video at least a good try. And if someone blows our minds with a completely new style, letīs talk more what we do about it. Ok guys, I want to see you show your skills. Thanks!
Sponsors:
[url=http://www.kgbflat.com]www.kgbflat.com[/url] ([url]http://www.kgbflat.com[/url])
[url=http://www.costo.fi]www.costo.fi[/url] ([url]http://www.costo.fi[/url])
-Martti & Viki
I can do all of that criteria on my skateboard. Does that count? ;D :P ^_^
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Its not what Martti asked for, but its the best i could come up with . . . today :P
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSiZkJi19Tw[/youtube]
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Ever since I learned the bw halfhiker I've been trying to learn to kick flip it. I can actually role cross fott bw hitchs for a small amount of time until the skin on the inside of my legs burns off. LOL ^_^. I guess i need to get a long seat post again and start trying it. This a great promotion for KGB.
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p.s vids like this really put all other bmx forms and skating to shame. :wacko: kickflips. gotta love flatland.
Its not what Martti asked for, but its the best i could come up with . . . today :P
[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSiZkJi19Tw[/url][/youtube]
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Its not what Martti asked for, but its the best i could come up with . . . today :P
[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSiZkJi19Tw[/url][/youtube]
Peter,
thanks for opening the game!! I really liked the smooth style you have for your kickflips! Handlebars didnīt touch the ground, your body didnīt get unstable and it looked like you could do them 10 in a row. Could you?
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I've seen Pete do those hiker flips in the PISSING rain on a seriously slick surface. He has them dialled.
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This has got to be the absolute coolest and most generous extension Ive yet to see from a flatland company. Props to Martti and Vicki for giving back in such a generous way.
-M
PS, Hope my shoulder heals in time to partake in this.
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Man kickflips its one of my objectives in riding flatland.... first time i see one of them was with mirra , doing on hikers... i fall in love in the same time....
well of course i can do even hikers , but wait for that and im gonna kickflip'ing all over haha..
hope this inspire everyone like with me!!!
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Martti & Viki - what a great way to motivate riders! so cool :ph34r:
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ive tried todayyyyyyyyyyy
ive been near but i dont know, ive tryed first tu jump high from hitchikerrrrrr, that helped
but i think ive invented 1 trick, ill post a videooooooooooooooo
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dammit, I cant ride till august
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misterpola k tal en argentina??? la gripe del cerdo esta tocando los cojones?????
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I think this is one of the coolest things to come from a flatland company yet! Not only helping promote their product but also promoting progression in flatland by dropping a challenge like this!!
Also, a side note to some of you who are trying to learn hiker kick flips and such... no one said that it needed to be a kick flip from a hitch hiker. There are other tricks to kick flip in and I'd love to see those. Kick Flip hikers have been done. Let's see something new. Kick Flip cliffhanger variations??? Kicks out of elephant glides or half packers... If I could do any of these tricks I'd try this. Looks like I will have to think outside of the box and apply a kick flip to my current trick repatoire.
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Props to viki and martti for doing this and throwing something out to get riders to progress and push the sport and also support and promote rider owed companies!
This is what we need.
Time to practice, I tried a few a few years back, I always loved kickflip style tricks and was part of something I wanted to learn.
RIDE hard =]
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Wow! Thanks for all the positive feedback! And for me to keep flatland alive we need to keep it progressing.
And remember my words in the beginning of this topic. We are also looking for new styles and new switches in this topic. It donīt neccesarily has to be kickflip, any progression weīll see here looks good and we make the decission after we see some new stuff.
Keep it going!
M
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Kickflip style seems kind of like what happened with Zach Shaw and the 360 backflip... it was so far ahead of its time that it took years for anyone else to get to.... that, and Martti and Justin Miller pretty much shut it down for everyone with all the bomb variations they've thrown down over the years ;D It'll be cool to see what folks come up with!
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Major props to Martti and Viki for doing this, and promoting our sport. Also for offering a frame and parts to riders who are skilled enough to impress. :mellow: :beer:
Good luck to all. Ride hard. ;D
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what a brill idea from the kgb mafia, cool stuff
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Also, a side note to some of you who are trying to learn hiker kick flips and such... no one said that it needed to be a kick flip from a hitch hiker. There are other tricks to kick flip in and I'd love to see those. Kick Flip hikers have been done. Let's see something new. Kick Flip cliffhanger variations??? Kicks out of elephant glides or half packers...
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I can kickflip hitch hiker, cliffhanger and elephant glides. But is almost imposible ( at least for me ) to pull the 3 kickflips dialed in the same combo..
Iīll give a try this weekend
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Also, a side note to some of you who are trying to learn hiker kick flips and such... no one said that it needed to be a kick flip from a hitch hiker. There are other tricks to kick flip in and I'd love to see those. Kick Flip hikers have been done. Let's see something new. Kick Flip cliffhanger variations??? Kicks out of elephant glides or half packers...
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I can kickflip hitch hiker, cliffhanger and elephant glides. But is almost imposible ( at least for me ) to pull the 3 kickflips dialed in the same combo..
Iīll give a try this weekend
GO SERGIO GO!
misterpola k tal en argentina??? la gripe del cerdo esta tocando los cojones?????
parece mas grave de lo que es moya...
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Also, a side note to some of you who are trying to learn hiker kick flips and such... no one said that it needed to be a kick flip from a hitch hiker. There are other tricks to kick flip in and I'd love to see those. Kick Flip hikers have been done. Let's see something new. Kick Flip cliffhanger variations??? Kicks out of elephant glides or half packers...
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I can kickflip hitch hiker, cliffhanger and elephant glides. But is almost imposible ( at least for me ) to pull the 3 kickflips dialed in the same combo..
Iīll give a try this weekend
SERGI8,
we are interested to see the cliffhanger kickflip. Unfortunately I havenīt seen it done before. Iīve heard that Cory from Vancouver did it long time ago but havenīt seen it so far.
Please post a video of it. Also Iīd like to see the elephant glide kickflip!
And thanks all of you who are taking this challenge!! You keep flatland alive! Letīs push it to next level! P.s. I am taking a part on the "new style" competition as well. I have some good ideas which will take some time to produce once I have something to show I will post it up here.
Martti
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Just a quick tips:
1. Be patient with kickflips (do not get dissapointed if you donīt learn it in one or two weeks, just keep trying and eventually youīll pull one and you will be a happy guy)
2. Be careful (easy to crash, so at your own risk) :mellow:
3. Practice and practice more
4. It is a whole another story to get them dialed after you learn it. But it is possible as well. Keep trying!
5. Once you learn the teqnigues of kickflips you learn a lot of how your bike works in other tricks as well. You will get a lot more control on your riding.
6. I go ride now to come up with a new style on this video competition!!!
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Also, a side note to some of you who are trying to learn hiker kick flips and such... no one said that it needed to be a kick flip from a hitch hiker. There are other tricks to kick flip in and I'd love to see those. Kick Flip hikers have been done. Let's see something new. Kick Flip cliffhanger variations??? Kicks out of elephant glides or half packers...
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I can kickflip hitch hiker, cliffhanger and elephant glides. But is almost imposible ( at least for me ) to pull the 3 kickflips dialed in the same combo..
Iīll give a try this weekend
SERGI8,
we are interested to see the cliffhanger kickflip. Unfortunately I havenīt seen it done before. Iīve heard that Cory from Vancouver did it long time ago but havenīt seen it so far.
Please post a video of it. Also Iīd like to see the elephant glide kickflip!
And thanks all of you who are taking this challenge!! You keep flatland alive! Letīs push it to next level! P.s. I am taking a part on the "new style" competition as well. I have some good ideas which will take some time to produce once I have something to show I will post it up here.
Martti
Martti,
I have footage of Cory Strat doing Cliffhanger 180 Kick Flips, 2 in a row. I used them in the "Mixt" bonus section. Eugene Collins does them in Crack Packers also in "Mixt"
I like your idea to push progression and motivate others, ride on.
What do you win if you complete the challenge? ha ha.
Are Death Truck Kick Flips possible? What about Bar Ride Kick Flips?
CJ
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Also, a side note to some of you who are trying to learn hiker kick flips and such... no one said that it needed to be a kick flip from a hitch hiker. There are other tricks to kick flip in and I'd love to see those. Kick Flip hikers have been done. Let's see something new. Kick Flip cliffhanger variations??? Kicks out of elephant glides or half packers...
+1
I can kickflip hitch hiker, cliffhanger and elephant glides. But is almost imposible ( at least for me ) to pull the 3 kickflips dialed in the same combo..
Iīll give a try this weekend
SERGI8,
we are interested to see the cliffhanger kickflip. Unfortunately I havenīt seen it done before. Iīve heard that Cory from Vancouver did it long time ago but havenīt seen it so far.
Please post a video of it. Also Iīd like to see the elephant glide kickflip!
And thanks all of you who are taking this challenge!! You keep flatland alive! Letīs push it to next level! P.s. I am taking a part on the "new style" competition as well. I have some good ideas which will take some time to produce once I have something to show I will post it up here.
Martti
Martti,
I have footage of Cory Strat doing Cliffhanger 180 Kick Flips, 2 in a row. I used them in the "Mixt" bonus section. Eugene Collins does them in Crack Packers also in "Mixt"
I like your idea to push progression and motivate others, ride on.
What do you win if you complete the challenge? ha ha.
Are Death Truck Kick Flips possible? What about Bar Ride Kick Flips?
CJ
Chad,
thanks for reminding me... Long time since I checked mixt so I have a blackout! My bad. I really like the one Eugene is doing in a crackpacker, I felt bad that I didnīt thought of it first ^_^
What I am going to win is myself. If I can come up with a new style after all the struggles I had I will consider myself very satisfied. I am hungry again which makes my brain work on a creative mode again. If I can come up with the style I have in mind a lot of people will laugh their assess off and be confused if it is cool or not, hahahah.
Iīve always dreamed of doing barride kickflips and I KNOW it would be possilbe. I just cannot do a proper barride. Anyone? Chad?
I think we can change flatland into a good way again. We all just got to push each other to come up with grazy styles like in the old days!!!
Donīt get me wrong here. There are grazy guys at the moment like Chad (extremenly different style), Adam, Mathias, Raphael, Viki, Alex, Terry, Melo brothers plus many more to mention and the undergrounders out there. (sorry leaving some names out but I got to get going). But more can be done in my opinion by more people.
Keep pushing!!!
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we are interested to see the cliffhanger kickflip. Unfortunately I havenīt seen it done before. Iīve heard that Cory from Vancouver did it long time ago but havenīt seen it so far.
Please post a video of it. Also Iīd like to see the elephant glide kickflip!
I kick flip the cliffhanger to finish the trick. I mean i landed them in the floor.
Iīve seen armin batoumeni ( sorry for the spelling ) a french rider pulling them... Is not a good trick if U want to have childrens some day... :P
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I kick flip the cliffhanger to finish the trick. I mean i landed them in the floor.
Iīve seen armin batoumeni ( sorry for the spelling ) a french rider pulling them... Is not a good trick if U want to have childrens some day... :P
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LMFAO. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^
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we are interested to see the cliffhanger kickflip. Unfortunately I havenīt seen it done before. Iīve heard that Cory from Vancouver did it long time ago but havenīt seen it so far.
Please post a video of it. Also Iīd like to see the elephant glide kickflip!
I kick flip the cliffhanger to finish the trick. I mean i landed them in the floor.
Iīve seen armin batoumeni ( sorry for the spelling ) a french rider pulling them... Is not a good trick if U want to have childrens some day... :P
Post a video please! I want to see it. I landed many tricks on my balls in last 20 years of riding. I didnīt try to make children yet but I think it should not be a problem. Armin has a kid.
How about new styles guys?? Anyone taking that as a challenge? Or not really...
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Its not what Martti asked for, but its the best i could come up with . . . today :P
[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSiZkJi19Tw[/url][/youtube]
Peter,
Iīve been watching your video few times now and the style you have on that hiker kickflip is so smooth and consistent that I really belive you can do few in a row with very short roll in between... I spoke to Aapo today about it and it would look so nice if you do them really quick after each flip!!!
Flip, roll 1 second, flip, roll 1 second, flip, roll 1 second and so on. Wowo. Thatīs new stuff right there. Keep pushing.
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Its not what Martti asked for, but its the best i could come up with . . . today :P
[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSiZkJi19Tw[/url][/youtube]
Peter,
thanks for opening the game!! I really liked the smooth style you have for your kickflips! Handlebars didnīt touch the ground, your body didnīt get unstable and it looked like you could do them 10 in a row. Could you?
Many thanks for the kind words Martti. To be honest, i dont know if i could do 10 in a row. 5 or 6 yeah, but i dont know about 10. I think i would drive myself insane. Plus the wheel im on now is 28spoke. I doubt if it would hold up to it -_-
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Fak kickflips they are too hard to get many people to participate, at least it appears so.. hopefully I am wrong :)
I want to see some more inventive wheel switching and bike varials!
edit: or even better yet, combine the 2! Like in mid mcircle, whip the frame around like your going to land on back wheel but at the same time flip it upside down land in upside down megaspin or something. :o
A kickflip is an awesome, amazing trick. But it has to be done so quickly and perfectly that if the g pub blinks they won't even catch it.
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Its not what Martti asked for, but its the best i could come up with . . . today :P
[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSiZkJi19Tw[/url][/youtube]
Peter,
thanks for opening the game!! I really liked the smooth style you have for your kickflips! Handlebars didnīt touch the ground, your body didnīt get unstable and it looked like you could do them 10 in a row. Could you?
Many thanks for the kind words Martti. To be honest, i dont know if i could do 10 in a row. 5 or 6 yeah, but i dont know about 10. I think i would drive myself insane. Plus the wheel im on now is 28spoke. I doubt if it would hold up to it -_-
Donīt mind the insane guy inside of me talking when it comes to pushing. HAH. But yeah, definetely you can do 5 of them in a row and at the end, 3 in a row with short rolls in between would be brilliant. Just take your time and you will do it!!
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Ha, i dont know. . . . but i will try it for sure. Watch this space.
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Martti/Viki, when you are trying to come up with a new or original trick, do you find yourself stumbling into these types of tricks, or is it a more methodical process where you have a deliberate goal? I've always found original tricks just kind of "happening" instead of thinking about them beforehand, but I'm curious as to the way in which you approach this.
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Martti/Viki, when you are trying to come up with a new or original trick, do you find yourself stumbling into these types of tricks, or is it a more methodical process where you have a deliberate goal? I've always found original tricks just kind of "happening" instead of thinking about them beforehand, but I'm curious as to the way in which you approach this.
Well, I could talk about this subject till tomorrow morning so letīs try to make it short then.
Iīve been going through in creativity many aspects from having dreams of tricks while I sleep to forcing myself to create new tricks till I canīt sleep because of the stress and everything between.
So I would say that let the tricks come to you and sometimes try to think of new things. And just get into the flow of thoughts of new tricks. Most of them will feel impossible to reach but it is then only up to you what do you want from riding. If you think of a new trick and you feel like you could do it then go ahead and try it. Try it for couple of hours and analyze the situation again. Then next day again and so on. Try not to give up, once you feel like it is impossible to do after few days trying it then give it a break. Let your body work while it rests and youīll be amazed how these couple days off make your body work differently and more accurate. Even you rest your muscles are working on coordinations.
So sometimes you just got to force yourself to learn the tricks no matter how hard they feel like.
Progressive riding is not all about just having fun and letting the tricks come and go to your head. You got to make yourself think further sometimes if you want to progress. But, progression and originality is not for everyone. But I would be happy to help the ones who has this progressive way of thinking on their ridings. That is my whole point here.
Just to answer shortly on the actual question. Sometimes they come and go to my mind as well, but every time when a new trick comes, I will give it a hard try.
But I like the feeling more when a lot of grazy ideas are flying in my mind.
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Fak kickflips they are too hard to get many people to participate, at least it appears so.. hopefully I am wrong :)
Yes, you are wrong. Sorry to break it down.
I want to see some more inventive wheel switching and bike varials!
edit: or even better yet, combine the 2! Like in mid mcircle, whip the frame around like your going to land on back wheel but at the same time flip it upside down land in upside down megaspin or something. :o
Please start this one. Post a video please once you start.
A kickflip is an awesome, amazing trick. But it has to be done so quickly and perfectly that if the g pub blinks they won't even catch it.
Thanks! I like them as well. I think Iīve reached the maximum speed of flipping on Chads latest dvd. (last trick) I cannot do it faster.
Thanks for feedback!
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On the subject of how original tricks come about, I believe its a little bit of everything. Creativity, The determination to make that creativity happen, accidents or luck when they do just happen or even taking a piece of someones idea and running with it. Like when Dylan Worsley took every trick to the pedal and became like the master at it. He had seen some Peregrine rider back in like 87' or 88' doing a Rope-A-Roni on the pedal. He took that idea and ran with it.
Dont ever, especially in this day and age, think an idea of yours is too far-fetched or impossible. Back in the mid-nineties, several pro flatlanders were asked where they thought flatland was going trick wise. Most of them didnt really give a serious answer, but Chad Degroot, I believe jokingly, as its hard to tell when he was serious and I didnt see him working on this, said he would like to start seeing more kick-flip style tricks like in skateboarding where you are flipping the bars with your feet instead of your hands and such. Like I said, I dont know if he was joking or not, and I dont know if Martti saw that interview, but Chad never brought them to life. Martti , on the other hand, made what others thought was a joke, a total reality. Now look at the topic we're on. Not wether or not they are possible, but how to make even more variations of it. More and more lately, Ive come to the realization that NOTHING is impossible on a bike. (See: Flatland Bikeflip) If you think it up, stick to it as long as it takes to make it reality. You never know, You may be the one to unveil the next "New Style" of flatland trick.
Ride hard everyone, and Martti, you always have and always will be, The Man.
-M
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----Quick question for Martti if he doesn't mind. Have you pulled any/many 720* hiker kickflips ? (I haven't seen your solo video or the KGB one, so perhaps that's a redundant question.)
jffe
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BTW, TJ, just stick to whatever you are doing for original tricks because it seems to be working for you. I came across another video of yours today, "Solo Session Part I" I believe, and once again I saw some really awesome tricks that I havent seen before. I already mentioned that one to you before, (Which I think would still be great now, You said it was old footage) but there were several original links I saw you do. Honorable mention, the crackpacker around the bars to spinning hitch hiker was awesome.
Im by no means claiming to be any kind of authority on whats original, but since Ive been hurt, Ive had time to watch alot of web videos and still feel you have some very original and difficult links.
I just thought I would throw this out there. People get so caught up in your arguments with everyone else, that I think they may have forgotten what a badass rider you are.
-M
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Thank you for the kind words Back4Good, and thank you Martti for the insight into your thought process behind original tricks.
I'd be VERY curious to talk about some more specific tricks that you learned over the years that really seemed to break a lot of ground towards newer trends and what not, or even do a fully fledged interview. There is a lot I think a lot of people would enjoy hearing about including myself. -_-
I'm not super original, but when the opportunity presents itself, I try to do my own thing. I'd rather have an over all style of riding that most people can't just up and copy (half regular and half opposite seems to have done the trick so far).
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Also, a side note to some of you who are trying to learn hiker kick flips and such... no one said that it needed to be a kick flip from a hitch hiker. There are other tricks to kick flip in and I'd love to see those. Kick Flip hikers have been done. Let's see something new. Kick Flip cliffhanger variations??? Kicks out of elephant glides or half packers...
+1
I can kickflip hitch hiker, cliffhanger and elephant glides. But is almost imposible ( at least for me ) to pull the 3 kickflips dialed in the same combo..
Iīll give a try this weekend
SERGI8,
we are interested to see the cliffhanger kickflip. Unfortunately I havenīt seen it done before. Iīve heard that Cory from Vancouver did it long time ago but havenīt seen it so far.
Please post a video of it. Also Iīd like to see the elephant glide kickflip!
And thanks all of you who are taking this challenge!! You keep flatland alive! Letīs push it to next level! P.s. I am taking a part on the "new style" competition as well. I have some good ideas which will take some time to produce once I have something to show I will post it up here.
Martti
Martti,
I have footage of Cory Strat doing Cliffhanger 180 Kick Flips, 2 in a row. I used them in the "Mixt" bonus section. Eugene Collins does them in Crack Packers also in "Mixt"
I like your idea to push progression and motivate others, ride on.
What do you win if you complete the challenge? ha ha.
Are Death Truck Kick Flips possible? What about Bar Ride Kick Flips?
CJ
Its funny this thread comes up...and its funny you mention death truck kickflips...Today while falling over and over out of 2 footed Dtrucks.. ON my way falling forward out my left leg clipped the left pedal that was forward..And while jumping off my rite foot and reaching forward with my left, my jeans and the movement hooked the pedal and i landed sideways next the bike in a stick b position...I know it was a complete accident, but it had me wondering.
Also are backwheel "kickflips" allowed? I only have one i wanted to unleash at voodoo, but it would be an honor to pass it on to VIKI as the link is a "barrow" of his.
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TJ rideing reminds me of Alex Jumelin little bit. Eve been told that before? Its a props because Alex rips
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without having to go back, we're talking both 180 and 360, or 360 only? once again, sorry.
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TJ rideing reminds me of Alex Jumelin little bit. Eve been told that before? Its a props because Alex rips
He's like 5 ft 1 and super fast, I'm over 6ft 4 and slow.
tickle me confused :huh:
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Just for people to know...
This is not the first time that KGB supports riders. I have two friends from Panama that were given a frame and some bike parts. My friends are really humble people, but their riding level is very high. I would really like to thank you guys on behalf of the Latin American community. You rock!
By the way...new styles? :ph34r:= Leo Claro from Bazil
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-grgW-bFCik[/youtube]
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Yes, it is an inspirational thread- but come on, 3 riders? There were probably more than 3 before you did your first one. Trevor did x-foot hiker to backpacker in 95...Dylan did hiker k'flips pre 1997...Andrew did s.f steam k'flip to halfpacker in 97.
They are a hard trik on both the body and the bike. I have destroyed a couple front rims learning dic-flips only to never have it dialed.
Hiker flips only took me 9 years to learn and when I was done my leg was sticking out a good inch or two from all the missed attempts during that 2 hour period.
Now I have brand new 360 kickflip/180 bike flip that I am real close to- but while at the Berry Jam I missed the pegs, sat on my bar and bent it down at least 2".
These feather light bikes we ride cannot take how many tries it takes to learn these k'flips. I know my bike right now is wrecked from them; hint, hint...(I won't send you a video of my ridiing but I could keep that footy of you in Toronto/'98 off youtube in exchange for a frame; ha ha.)
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Well, I could talk about this subject till tomorrow morning so letīs try to make it short then.
Iīve been going through in creativity many aspects from having dreams of tricks while I sleep to forcing myself to create new tricks till I canīt sleep because of the stress and everything between.
So I would say that let the tricks come to you and sometimes try to think of new things. And just get into the flow of thoughts of new tricks. Most of them will feel impossible to reach but it is then only up to you what do you want from riding. If you think of a new trick and you feel like you could do it then go ahead and try it. Try it for couple of hours and analyze the situation again. Then next day again and so on. Try not to give up, once you feel like it is impossible to do after few days trying it then give it a break. Let your body work while it rests and youīll be amazed how these couple days off make your body work differently and more accurate. Even you rest your muscles are working on coordinations.
So sometimes you just got to force yourself to learn the tricks no matter how hard they feel like.
Progressive riding is not all about just having fun and letting the tricks come and go to your head. You got to make yourself think further sometimes if you want to progress. But, progression and originality is not for everyone. But I would be happy to help the ones who has this progressive way of thinking on their ridings. That is my whole point here.
Just to answer shortly on the actual question. Sometimes they come and go to my mind as well, but every time when a new trick comes, I will give it a hard try.
But I like the feeling more when a lot of grazy ideas are flying in my mind.
You have a good understanding of your process, thank you for sharing & giving, sometimes riders need to hear from their "Flatland Gurus/Pros" a little more often in an open format way and setting...N
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http://www.youtube.com/v/xQllJsPiFhk (http://www.youtube.com/v/xQllJsPiFhk)
@1:23 - cliffhanger kickflip
when i first started riding i saw a clip of armin batoumeni (at circle cow?) doing cliffhanger kickflips. his was a full air kickflip. i wish i could see that video again.
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That pegless rider is very smooth. I like the transitions and trix he is doing.
Here is an idea for a new trick....I am working on learning myself but am prolly a year or so from getting close to trying (not landing, just even trying).... Cliffhanger with 360 bike varial to forward hitch.
I'm a mid-level rider and I'm close to learning forward hitch as well as cliffhanger so performing this trick is long time coming in my opinion, I'll never give up the fight tho.
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Just for people to know...
This is not the first time that KGB supports riders. I have two friends from Panama that were given a frame and some bike parts. My friends are really humble people, but their riding level is very high. I would really like to thank you guys on behalf of the Latin American community. You rock!
By the way...new styles? :ph34r:= Leo Claro from Bazil
[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-grgW-bFCik[/url][/youtube]
WOW! This is what I am talking about when it comes to progression!! Definetely goes to my top 3 video clips on net. 2 other clips are Chad Johnstons pegless clip when he came up with it, another one is Sam Foaks clip with Prodigy song and now this is in my top 3 list!
Keep pushing guys!
Martti
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Yes, it is an inspirational thread- but come on, 3 riders? There were probably more than 3 before you did your first one. Trevor did x-foot hiker to backpacker in 95...Dylan did hiker k'flips pre 1997...Andrew did s.f steam k'flip to halfpacker in 97.
They are a hard trik on both the body and the bike. I have destroyed a couple front rims learning dic-flips only to never have it dialed.
Hiker flips only took me 9 years to learn and when I was done my leg was sticking out a good inch or two from all the missed attempts during that 2 hour period.
Now I have brand new 360 kickflip/180 bike flip that I am real close to- but while at the Berry Jam I missed the pegs, sat on my bar and bent it down at least 2".
These feather light bikes we ride cannot take how many tries it takes to learn these k'flips. I know my bike right now is wrecked from them; hint, hint...(I won't send you a video of my ridiing but I could keep that footy of you in Toronto/'98 off youtube in exchange for a frame; ha ha.)
Cory,
please donīt take my words too literally. Point is and was to motivate people, not to take credit for anything. I think I took my credit already from riding I am not asking for more, I just want to see new guys coming up with new stuff.
If you are talking about that trevors trick on Jinx video 95 that in my opinion was not a kickflip, Justin is doing the same trick now with a kickflip. Trevor did it and does it without flipping the handlebars.
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Also, a side note to some of you who are trying to learn hiker kick flips and such... no one said that it needed to be a kick flip from a hitch hiker. There are other tricks to kick flip in and I'd love to see those. Kick Flip hikers have been done. Let's see something new. Kick Flip cliffhanger variations??? Kicks out of elephant glides or half packers...
+1
I can kickflip hitch hiker, cliffhanger and elephant glides. But is almost imposible ( at least for me ) to pull the 3 kickflips dialed in the same combo..
Iīll give a try this weekend
SERGI8,
we are interested to see the cliffhanger kickflip. Unfortunately I havenīt seen it done before. Iīve heard that Cory from Vancouver did it long time ago but havenīt seen it so far.
Please post a video of it. Also Iīd like to see the elephant glide kickflip!
And thanks all of you who are taking this challenge!! You keep flatland alive! Letīs push it to next level! P.s. I am taking a part on the "new style" competition as well. I have some good ideas which will take some time to produce once I have something to show I will post it up here.
Martti
Martti,
I have footage of Cory Strat doing Cliffhanger 180 Kick Flips, 2 in a row. I used them in the "Mixt" bonus section. Eugene Collins does them in Crack Packers also in "Mixt"
I like your idea to push progression and motivate others, ride on.
What do you win if you complete the challenge? ha ha.
Are Death Truck Kick Flips possible? What about Bar Ride Kick Flips?
CJ
Its funny this thread comes up...and its funny you mention death truck kickflips...Today while falling over and over out of 2 footed Dtrucks.. ON my way falling forward out my left leg clipped the left pedal that was forward..And while jumping off my rite foot and reaching forward with my left, my jeans and the movement hooked the pedal and i landed sideways next the bike in a stick b position...I know it was a complete accident, but it had me wondering.
Also are backwheel "kickflips" allowed? I only have one i wanted to unleash at voodoo, but it would be an honor to pass it on to VIKI as the link is a "barrow" of his.
Sure backwheel stuff counts in. Letīs see it!
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[url]http://www.youtube.com/v/xQllJsPiFhk[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/v/xQllJsPiFhk[/url])
@1:23 - cliffhanger kickflip
when i first started riding i saw a clip of armin batoumeni (at circle cow?) doing cliffhanger kickflips. his was a full air kickflip. i wish i could see that video again.
That trick was and still is very very sick. So many years ago... Big props to Cory for this one plus see the style he is doing it. Click.
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I kick flip the cliffhanger to finish the trick. I mean i landed them in the floor.
Iīve seen armin batoumeni ( sorry for the spelling ) a french rider pulling them... Is not a good trick if U want to have childrens some day... :P
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End of each clip, Iīll try to film+upload a vid with 3 kickflips this weekend...
sergio del valle - contest online ronda 1 (http://www.vimeo.com/4935723)
Sergio Del Valle - RONDA 3 (http://www.vimeo.com/5366747)
I left the cliffh.. kickflip years ago, It was not healty for my balls... :angry:
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[url]http://www.youtube.com/v/xQllJsPiFhk[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/v/xQllJsPiFhk[/url])
@1:23 - cliffhanger kickflip
when i first started riding i saw a clip of armin batoumeni (at circle cow?) doing cliffhanger kickflips. his was a full air kickflip. i wish i could see that video again.
Wait, what? What that a bunnyhop barspin no hand landing at the end? Cory, is that what I saw? That's a trick I have never seen before!
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He Martti is this what you are looking for?
Dez Steamroller Kickflip to Halfpacker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3-EfirSZCA#ws-lq-lq2)
Its new for as far as i know! ^_^
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one of the best threads ive ever seen on global flat, great work martti, and nice trick dez, pressure flip more than a kickflip, but sick nevertheless!! and a new trick...
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Dez riding is so awesome... unbeliavable !
If you want I could try a full death truck "kickflip" but I don't know if it's can be called like a kickflip because it's on backwheel... :huh:
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Dez, that is unbelievable! Nice job. Almost looked like a controlled stumble. That's not saying anything bad...just saying it looks VERY technical.
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He Martti is this what you are looking for?
Dez Steamroller Kickflip to Halfpacker ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3-EfirSZCA#ws-lq-lq2[/url])
Its new for as far as i know! ^_^
Dez,
yes, this is excactly what we are looking for. Thanks! And by the way, awesome trick! Viki will bring you a frame to the worlds as I promised to the first guy who does unseen kickflip (yes, I havenīt seen this one done before).
Thanks again for trying hard to pull that trick. Good example. Very good.
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Hey all. It seems like lot of people are happy about this progression video concept, so am I, thanks to you to give it a try and seeing a change of progression this way.
So, we decided to continue with this competition even we found our winner so quick!
Right now I am going to need some time to figure out more prices and other stuff to get you guys going stronger. Give me some time and mean time, please post more new tricks and styles etc. etc. because that will be the whole point of the competition. As I said, we just got to figure out few things for to give out some cool stuff to all the hardworking guys out there.
Keep it up!!!! I will stay in touch and I will check the videos daily basis. See you guys at the worlds. Martti
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Hey all. It seems like lot of people are happy about this progression video concept, so am I, thanks to you to give it a try and seeing a change of progression this way.
So, we decided to continue with this competition even we found our winner so quick!
Right now I am going to need some time to figure out more prices and other stuff to get you guys going stronger. Give me some time and mean time, please post more new tricks and styles etc. etc. because that will be the whole point of the competition. As I said, we just got to figure out few things for to give out some cool stuff to all the hardworking guys out there.
Keep it up!!!! I will stay in touch and I will check the videos daily basis. See you guys at the worlds. Martti
That is great news since this frame is cracked! Thanks allot. I also got a new trick that i haven't seen yet ill trie to tape it and post it later!
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Nothing too fancy, and like Effraim said, more of a 'pressure flip' then a kickflip...But here she is
Kickflip for KGB (http://vimeo.com/5494082)
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Nothing too fancy, and like Effraim said, more of a 'pressure flip' then a kickflip...But here she is
Kickflip for KGB ([url]http://vimeo.com/5494082[/url])
It is definetely a kickflip. Nice one!! I like it a lot. But unfortunately Dez gets the frame since he posted a new kickflip first.
But no worries, I will post up soon something interesting for this competition. Stay tuned.
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Whatever it is, congrats to dez!! Much deserved...
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Wow those were some cool tricks Dez and Alex. A push for originality=cool. Man you gotta love Flatland.Infinite possibilities. :ph34r:
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That was dope alex!! Dez that was some crazy original lines also! Keep it up!
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Whatever it is, congrats to dez!! Much deserved...
+1 that fncking rocked!
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Congrats to Dez...and Alex did a wonderful job too! Thanks to Martti and KGB, this is a great promotion. Kind of like a "flow" deal or a "co-sponsorship BITD". Good to see KGB giving back.
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Congrats to Dez...and Alex did a wonderful job too! Thanks to Martti and KGB, this is a great promotion. Kind of like a "flow" deal or a "co-sponsorship BITD". Good to see KGB giving back.
Thanks for support! And the best is yet to be come. Just be patient! I hope we can make this thing to get going and really see what is going on "out there".
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That kickflip is just the tip of the iceberg for me...What is supposed to happen immediately after the kickflip is what's causing me a lot of problems...Hopefully I can get it soon though.
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Alex inspires me to do spinning steams and such. We need to ride sometime before the end of the year! I am in a progression rut where I am taking one step forward then two back everytime I get on my bike.
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you have to believe in your self sarge.Its as simple as that. :beer:
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Alex inspires me to do spinning steams and such. We need to ride sometime before the end of the year! I am in a progression rut where I am taking one step forward then two back everytime I get on my bike.
I just got a job, and passport! So when I get some time off, we should meet up and ride! We'll keep in touch!
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Dude, did we just make a man date??? LOL
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That kickflip is just the tip of the iceberg for me...What is supposed to happen immediately after the kickflip is what's causing me a lot of problems...Hopefully I can get it soon though.
Which specific kickflip are you trying to do? Let me know and perhaps I can help out. There is always an explanation for a mistake and misunderstandings.
M
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Me and Viki giving big props to
Peter Hollinger
Leo Claro
A. Poirier
and Dez Maarsen
for supporting and already showing their skills on this progressive flatland video comp!
Rest please follow and show your skills!!! Surprise us and weīll surprise you! We are checking out all the clips. Progressive video clips will be checked again and again.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekH_5pKSm24[/youtube]
here's something from awhile back, i remember working hard to get that no foot halfpacker to crackpacker switch one handed!
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[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekH_5pKSm24[/url][/youtube]
here's something from awhile back, i remember working hard to get that no foot halfpacker to crackpacker switch one handed!
WoW! Havenīt seen that switch before! Smart one Iīd say.. Howabout continuing straight to tail wheelie or megaspin when you jump back on the rear pegs? I am stoked to see this kind of things, thanks for video!
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yeah i have done that link/switch to back wheel link stuff like whopper after but i never took the time to film it, more of a one shot deal you know? working on new things these days anyways, its nice to talk to you martti, i was raised off the oldschool intrikat sh*t... really motivational for me, and its nice to see you motivating riders in another way now, keep the heart man, peace
mike
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for new original tricks !! OKOK ITS NOT KICKFLIP BUT....its something different !
look at 2:06 of the video !!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svx_dsNAa9o[/youtube]
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for new original tricks !! OKOK ITS NOT KICKFLIP BUT....its something different !
look at 2:06 of the video !!
[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svx_dsNAa9o[/url][/youtube]
f*ck YEAH! Thatīs dope Simon! I just showed your hand pedaling thing to my lady. Really good one! All you guys who are providing this material are keeping the soul of flatland alive. Stay tuned!
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for new original tricks !! OKOK ITS NOT KICKFLIP BUT....its something different !
look at 2:06 of the video !!
[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svx_dsNAa9o[/url][/youtube]
honestly, the pedaling wheelie run has been one of coolest things i've seen ever. that was awesome!
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awesome style
i hate xfooted :wacko:
love this trick
http://diversiontv.com/DiversionTvPages/Users/Videos/BMX/Impulsivity/350.aspx (http://diversiontv.com/DiversionTvPages/Users/Videos/BMX/Impulsivity/350.aspx)
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[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svx_dsNAa9o[/url][/youtube]
That is one of the most amazing styles ever. Those pedaling wheelies must be very uncomfortable.
All these vids posted are mind blowing. Major props to all.
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for new original tricks !! OKOK ITS NOT KICKFLIP BUT....its something different !
look at 2:06 of the video !!
[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svx_dsNAa9o[/url][/youtube]
x footed crackpacker cliffhangers??? dammit
you could switch it to normal cliffhangers
that would be THE trick
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I remember seeing Marsans video in another thread somewhere...and WOW. Amazing style and great creativity. Kind of reminds me of Lee Musselwhites style...and it is simply amazing!
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Also, a side note to some of you who are trying to learn hiker kick flips and such... no one said that it needed to be a kick flip from a hitch hiker. There are other tricks to kick flip in and I'd love to see those. Kick Flip hikers have been done. Let's see something new. Kick Flip cliffhanger variations??? Kicks out of elephant glides or half packers...
+1
I can kickflip hitch hiker, cliffhanger and elephant glides. But is almost imposible ( at least for me ) to pull the 3 kickflips dialed in the same combo..
Iīll give a try this weekend
SERGI8,
we are interested to see the cliffhanger kickflip. Unfortunately I havenīt seen it done before. Iīve heard that Cory from Vancouver did it long time ago but havenīt seen it so far.
Please post a video of it. Also Iīd like to see the elephant glide kickflip!
And thanks all of you who are taking this challenge!! You keep flatland alive! Letīs push it to next level! P.s. I am taking a part on the "new style" competition as well. I have some good ideas which will take some time to produce once I have something to show I will post it up here.
Martti
Martti,
I have footage of Cory Strat doing Cliffhanger 180 Kick Flips, 2 in a row. I used them in the "Mixt" bonus section. Eugene Collins does them in Crack Packers also in "Mixt"
I like your idea to push progression and motivate others, ride on.
What do you win if you complete the challenge? ha ha.
Are Death Truck Kick Flips possible? What about Bar Ride Kick Flips?
CJ
Its funny this thread comes up...and its funny you mention death truck kickflips...Today while falling over and over out of 2 footed Dtrucks.. ON my way falling forward out my left leg clipped the left pedal that was forward..And while jumping off my rite foot and reaching forward with my left, my jeans and the movement hooked the pedal and i landed sideways next the bike in a stick b position...I know it was a complete accident, but it had me wondering.
Also are backwheel "kickflips" allowed? I only have one i wanted to unleash at voodoo, but it would be an honor to pass it on to VIKI as the link is a "barrow" of his.
Sweet one Snoop, keep it up and you will pull it!
If they're no-handed and flip with your feet I think it's a kick flip, maybe pressure flip if one foot stays on a peg...
Ride on homey.
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By the way...new styles? :ph34r:= Leo Claro from Bazil
[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-grgW-bFCik[/url][/youtube]
This video is awesome, very inspiring to me. I'm stoked that we can do completely different tricks with the same concept. This is an untapped avenue, there are many more pegless tricks and combos to be done!
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He Martti is this what you are looking for?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3-EfirSZCA[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3-EfirSZCA[/url])
Its new for as far as i know! ^_^
This is also awesome!
During one of my trips to Amsterdam I remember watching Bram VerHallen kick flip Half-Packers in the middle of each turbine, the Dutch are dope!
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Nothing too fancy, and like Effraim said, more of a 'pressure flip' then a kickflip...But here she is
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Sweet.
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for new original tricks !! OKOK ITS NOT KICKFLIP BUT....its something different !
look at 2:06 of the video !!
[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svx_dsNAa9o[/url][/youtube]
Nice tricks, probably the fastest Jugglers I've seen.
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Let's see some originality from everyone!
Big props to Martti for this thread.
I consider myself blessed/fortunate to witness Martti push himself and our sport/art firsthand. He would get off the airplane, put his bike together and begin to ride. Almost every time he'd pull his first trick and then tell me he was ready to film. He always had new, original, progressive tricks. Some times they took days to capture on camera but he would never give up. Once he had it in his head that it was possible he wouldn't stop thinking about it, even if his body was too tired. He would rest (body, not mind) and get back to business. I absorbed his determination and self-discipline and applied it to my own dreams.
Much respect for all the riders that created something different (too many for me to list).
Stay positive.
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Whoīs going to do first following trick: Cliffhanger to jump over the rear tire to Hitch hiker??? I donīt have balls to try it anymore ^_^
p.s. Be careful
p.p.s. you could do it all spinning as well....
post a video please!!!!!
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That kickflip is just the tip of the iceberg for me...What is supposed to happen immediately after the kickflip is what's causing me a lot of problems...Hopefully I can get it soon though.
Which specific kickflip are you trying to do? Let me know and perhaps I can help out. There is always an explanation for a mistake and misunderstandings.
M
I'm trying to do that kickflip, then pivoting underneath the bike on the front peg (if that makes sense?), some days I feel super close, other days it feels like such a lost cause.
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i was told by a reliable source that luis dos santos was pulling cliffhanger jump back to hitch after the athens twilight contest
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i was told by a reliable source that luis dos santos was pulling cliffhanger jump back to hitch after the athens twilight contest
I totaly believe that.
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Whoīs going to do first following trick: Cliffhanger to jump over the rear tire to Hitch hiker??? I donīt have balls to try it anymore ^_^
p.s. Be careful
p.p.s. you could do it all spinning as well....
post a video please!!!!!
I bet terry adams can pull that :P
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Whoīs going to do first following trick: Cliffhanger to jump over the rear tire to Hitch hiker??? I donīt have balls to try it anymore ^_^
p.s. Be careful
p.p.s. you could do it all spinning as well....
post a video please!!!!!
I bet terry adams can pull that :P
He's been trying to do hang10 to hitch, but i don't know how successful his been at that.
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Whoīs going to do first following trick: Cliffhanger to jump over the rear tire to Hitch hiker??? I donīt have balls to try it anymore ^_^
p.s. Be careful
p.p.s. you could do it all spinning as well....
post a video please!!!!!
Nooooo!!! that cliffhanger to hitchiker was my plan for a few years, can't believe its already stolen :angry:
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Whoīs going to do first following trick: Cliffhanger to jump over the rear tire to Hitch hiker??? I donīt have balls to try it anymore ^_^
p.s. Be careful
p.p.s. you could do it all spinning as well....
post a video please!!!!!
Nooooo!!! that cliffhanger to hitchiker was my plan for a few years, can't believe its already stolen :angry:
yah thats the thing I hate about pros most stuff you imagine they think of, just makes us have to think of better stuff. :mellow:
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Ideas and rumours does not count. Videos are what counts. Who provides videos first, the trick is his/her then after. I am out to the worlds now.
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cj, of course the Dutch are dope, they're ON dope.
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Wow, Martti's post really brought out the big guns.
Great riding from EVERYONE.
I didn't think Alex's thing was a kickflip...I thought it was more of like an around the world type thing...but it was definitely cool and what do I know.
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What would the definition of a kick flip be anyways? Does it have to be where the wheel lifts off the ground? Or is it just the flip or switch of the wheel without use of hands? Because in that case both alex and dez did kick "flips". I agree with the second definition...
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IMO kickflips are rotations made using your feet and should be done while the kicked tire is in mid air..the feet is also not touching the peg/whatever during the rotation..
hope that makes sense.LOL
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What would the definition of a kick flip be anyways? Does it have to be where the wheel lifts off the ground? Or is it just the flip or switch of the wheel without use of hands? Because in that case both alex and dez did kick "flips". I agree with the second definition...
I saw Alex go around the wheel, not vice versa. Let me know if I missed something. I feel stupid questioning this cause his link is dope, but I'm just trying to make sure I understand what a kickflip is.
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Cliffhanger to jump over the rear tire to Hitch hiker?
Well, here it is:
ATLANTA, GEORGIA USA (http://vimeo.com/4905804)
At 5:00 minutses time. You can pull over straight to there, but youll miss some cool stuff bfore.
Luiz dos Santos, aka Arroz (rice lol), is an awesome brasilian street/flat rider who has been around for at least 8 yrs now.
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Talking about new links n' stuff, well, I got this footage from my brotha called Bruno, aka Zebu. I thing its worth a lookin'. Zebu is another new school brazilian flatlander who has got into our wonderful world of flatland since 2001.
new original link -Bruno "Zebu"- crackpacker to stemroller switch foot in the pedal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLq6EZ2dLwk#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Peace,
=c=
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First off, i would really like to congratulate Mrs. Kuoppa n' Gomes for the opportunity to us to show our humble skills gathered over long hard yrs of practicin'
I was the one who edit the Leo Claro pegless footage. Leo (short for Leonardo) is an amazing brazilian rider who has joint our sport since 1986. He's 36 age now, seeme like a kid in vid. For the past 20 yrs, since I begin to ride flat', i have been seing all sorta tricks from him, from the old school braked ones to the nowadays trends like pumpings, scuffless n' stuff. He is able to ride bothsides, but actually he is more like counter clockwise spinning style o'riding direction.
Anyways, Mr. Kuoppa, if one o'my fellas deserves some prices, you could sure talk to me, i got'em addresses.
peace,
=c=
ps. Me and Leo have seen together the kgb Impulsivity DVD. Well, what we got to say is: Kuoppa has the hardest tricks weve never seen bfore. Gomes has got a brilliant style and criative links ever. The whiplashes x-foot is outta this world! You DEFINITIVELY have written yo names into the book of flatland history for sure, together Kevin and Chase!
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haha that cliff to hitchiker is so ridiculous!
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haha that cliff to hitchiker is so ridiculous!
uh that was the only thing that you thought was riduculous. ^_^.He had alot of crazy stuff. I had no idea Leo was 36
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First off, i would really like to congratulate Mrs. Kuoppa n' Gomes for the opportunity to us to show our humble skills gathered over long hard yrs of practicin'
Made my chuckle a bit :)
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First off, i would really like to congratulate Mrs. Kuoppa n' Gomes for the opportunity to us to show our humble skills gathered over long hard yrs of practicin'
I was the one who edit the Leo Claro pegless footage. Leo (short for Leonardo) is an amazing brazilian rider who has joint our sport since 1986. He's 36 age now, seeme like a kid in vid. For the past 20 yrs, since I begin to ride flat', i have been seing all sorta tricks from him, from the old school braked ones to the nowadays trends like pumpings, scuffless n' stuff. He is able to ride bothsides, but actually he is more like counter clockwise spinning style o'riding direction.
Anyways, Mr. Kuoppa, if one o'my fellas deserves some prices, you could sure talk to me, i got'em addresses.
peace,
=c=
ps. Me and Leo have seen together the kgb Impulsivity DVD. Well, what we got to say is: Kuoppa has the hardest tricks weve never seen bfore. Gomes has got a brilliant style and criative links ever. The whiplashes x-foot is outta this world! You DEFINITIVELY have written yo names into the book of flatland history for sure, together Kevin and Chase!
Yeah, Leo 36? Really? Wow. I see he has been puttin in the work all these years. Someone give this guy a sponsorship...or send him a bike! I think he very well deserves something for his hard work and progression!
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I think this is my new favorite thread. Great to see all of these vids!
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This entire thread makes me smile -_-
Zebu's hang 10 jump to crackpacker is perfect
And how have I never heard of Luiz dos Santos before? He is amazing!
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Well, a year ago or so I was working with the rollercoaster. deffinately lots of stuff can be done with that. Lots of new no footed tricks. I posted this a while ago. Not sure if Martti has seen it. If so, enjoy again I guess.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azNv725ZHGI[/youtube]
heres one from way earlier with a front brake, 2004 different style
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7atFpNyWL70[/youtube]
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mix part 1,2 (http://www.vimeo.com/1911855)<p>mix part 1,2 (http://vimeo.com/1911855) from adrian lowkajtis (http://vimeo.com/user502162) on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com).</p>
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What would the definition of a kick flip be anyways? Does it have to be where the wheel lifts off the ground? Or is it just the flip or switch of the wheel without use of hands? Because in that case both alex and dez did kick "flips". I agree with the second definition...
I saw Alex go around the wheel, not vice versa. Let me know if I missed something. I feel stupid questioning this cause his link is dope, but I'm just trying to make sure I understand what a kickflip is.
In my personal opinion on the trick, I'm in steamboat position, and I still consider this to be behind the bars body position. I allow the pressure my foot puts on the peg to flip the wheel when its about to turbine. I would consider mysel dong more of a kikflip then an "around the world" type thing.
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Cliffhanger to jump over the rear tire to Hitch hiker?
Well, here it is:
ATLANTA, GEORGIA USA ([url]http://vimeo.com/4905804[/url])
At 5:00 minutses time. You can pull over straight to there, but youll miss some cool stuff bfore.
Luiz dos Santos, aka Arroz (rice lol), is an awesome brasilian street/flat rider who has been around for at least 8 yrs now.
huh! your the guy doing that huh..
very impressive ^_^
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i ll have my digital camera in three weeks again,i ll try to film something also.
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Flatdream 06/04/2009 (http://www.vimeo.com/4041671)
Dézéquilibre flatland trick (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEXJSOzCjMU&feature=channel_page#lq-lq2-hq)
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Everytime I watch that video by Flatdream I feel like I am looking in the past at an earlier video of some top pro. You have TONS of potential dude! Keep it up and stick with it. Big things ahead for you!!
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First off, i would really like to congratulate Mrs. Kuoppa n' Gomes for the opportunity to us to show our humble skills gathered over long hard yrs of practicin'
I was the one who edit the Leo Claro pegless footage. Leo (short for Leonardo) is an amazing brazilian rider who has joint our sport since 1986. He's 36 age now, seeme like a kid in vid. For the past 20 yrs, since I begin to ride flat', i have been seing all sorta tricks from him, from the old school braked ones to the nowadays trends like pumpings, scuffless n' stuff. He is able to ride bothsides, but actually he is more like counter clockwise spinning style o'riding direction.
Anyways, Mr. Kuoppa, if one o'my fellas deserves some prices, you could sure talk to me, i got'em addresses.
peace,
=c=
ps. Me and Leo have seen together the kgb Impulsivity DVD. Well, what we got to say is: Kuoppa has the hardest tricks weve never seen bfore. Gomes has got a brilliant style and criative links ever. The whiplashes x-foot is outta this world! You DEFINITIVELY have written yo names into the book of flatland history for sure, together Kevin and Chase!
Yeah, Leo 36? Really? Wow. I see he has been puttin in the work all these years. Someone give this guy a sponsorship...or send him a bike! I think he very well deserves something for his hard work and progression!
+1
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Lísias one Trick Bar Foot Circle.
Lísias Tabarelli em Brasil
Piracicabasessions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7ytJPCk9zY#lq-hq)
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Diversion vm - Piracicaba Part. .Mpeg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwP0gs1I34I#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Diversion 7.o Bonus Brasil Piracicaba
Enjoy
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Brazil = Originality
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Brazil is know for great soccer now it has some great flatlanders. Thanks for the video.
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Lísias one Trick Bar Foot Circle.
Lísias Tabarelli em Brasil
Piracicabasessions ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7ytJPCk9zY#lq-hq[/url])
dude in bandanna is killin' it!
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----I keep waiting for the Kevin Jones video where he's riding a stem/bars in the seatpost tube, and has the seatpost/seat coming out of the forks....But then I guess he basically has that with the frontwheel drive setup in a way, plus he can still steer ha-ha.
jffe
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First i want to thank Martti for this great idea! and the good job he does for the sport and artform! and ofcourse for Dez, is like he is riding on nuclear power last years, well done.
If i knew about this topic earlier i deffently would have joined with some home cooked trix!
Here some small stuff i got, i cant edit my files, thats why they are small clips..
I like this topic so i join! good luck every one at the worlds! (was on holiday..:( )
[youtube]Tv3s4kLDuYM[/youtube]
[youtube]i2XBtBLeyXg[/youtube]
Ps. anyone riding in sweden this summer? near gothenburg?
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Wow Navid, your no foot tail-whip is very impressive, keep it up ! :ph34r:
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fncking nice Navid!!!
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Well, a year ago or so I was working with the rollercoaster. deffinately lots of stuff can be done with that. Lots of new no footed tricks. I posted this a while ago. Not sure if Martti has seen it. If so, enjoy again I guess.
[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azNv725ZHGI[/url][/youtube]
heres one from way earlier with a front brake, 2004 different style
[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7atFpNyWL70[/url][/youtube]
Genius. Me and Viki tried to figure out how do you do it but couldnīt.. Anyway, keep it up.
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Cliffhanger to jump over the rear tire to Hitch hiker?
Well, here it is:
ATLANTA, GEORGIA USA ([url]http://vimeo.com/4905804[/url])
At 5:00 minutses time. You can pull over straight to there, but youll miss some cool stuff bfore.
Luiz dos Santos, aka Arroz (rice lol), is an awesome brasilian street/flat rider who has been around for at least 8 yrs now.
Thank you! You did it with very good control. Plus you have bunch of other good stuff going on. Your balls seems to be on fire for such things!! Keep bustin.
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Lísias one Trick Bar Foot Circle.
Lísias Tabarelli em Brasil
Piracicabasessions ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7ytJPCk9zY#lq-hq[/url])
Smart idea. And definetely looks good for the eye!!!
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First i want to thank Martti for this great idea! and the good job he does for the sport and artform! and ofcourse for Dez, is like he is riding on nuclear power last years, well done.
If i knew about this topic earlier i deffently would have joined with some home cooked trix!
Here some small stuff i got, i cant edit my files, thats why they are small clips..
I like this topic so i join! good luck every one at the worlds! (was on holiday..:( )
[youtube]Tv3s4kLDuYM[/youtube]
[youtube]i2XBtBLeyXg[/youtube]
Ps. anyone riding in sweden this summer? near gothenburg?
Navid,
good to see you still out there. I can imagine that it would be easy to crash on that trick you showed on the video!
Anyways. I will see you next time.
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Hey all again.
Just came back from the worlds and will leave shortly to Japan for the KOG 2 and another comp week after.
Right now I am trying to check all the videos but time is very tight with everything.
We are working on something cool for this progression video competition at the moment.
Please stay tuned for the information we will post here once the concept is ready. Meanwhile, keep progressing!!
Yours, the talent scouts (Martti, Viki, Intrikat/Chad, Effraim) :ph34r:
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the no footed stick B was done with a rollercoaster hub he made, its same as a freecoaster just when you apply pressure on the pedal it will not back pedal, sortof stuck
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There are unlimited new tricks with the use of the rollercoaster. Im trying to figure out how to make one out of the Geisha and not the Taska. The taska is just to damn heavy.
That no footed Tailwhip was sick. So many possibilities with that stuff. Ross Smith would get a kick out of that video. The style was very clean.
Martti, Thanks for the props!
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mix part 1,2 ([url]http://www.vimeo.com/1911855[/url])<p>mix part 1,2 ([url]http://vimeo.com/1911855[/url]) from adrian lowkajtis ([url]http://vimeo.com/user502162[/url]) on Vimeo ([url]http://vimeo.com[/url]).</p>
Hi. Good vibe video but unfortunately this video is not what we are looking for. This is more focusing into stylish riding but that is not the point of our thread. Please do not send such videos to this topic. Start a new topic or something.
This topic is focusing more to:
Originality
Difficulty
Personality
Thanks for understanding.
Martti
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i am trying a new switch, i will take a while tho, as pretty much everytime i miss it im getting close to the pavement with my head ^_^
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Martti/Viki, when you are trying to come up with a new or original trick, do you find yourself stumbling into these types of tricks, or is it a more methodical process where you have a deliberate goal? I've always found original tricks just kind of "happening" instead of thinking about them beforehand, but I'm curious as to the way in which you approach this.
Well, I could talk about this subject till tomorrow morning so letīs try to make it short then.
Iīve been going through in creativity many aspects from having dreams of tricks while I sleep to forcing myself to create new tricks till I canīt sleep because of the stress and everything between.
So I would say that let the tricks come to you and sometimes try to think of new things. And just get into the flow of thoughts of new tricks. Most of them will feel impossible to reach but it is then only up to you what do you want from riding. If you think of a new trick and you feel like you could do it then go ahead and try it. Try it for couple of hours and analyze the situation again. Then next day again and so on. Try not to give up, once you feel like it is impossible to do after few days trying it then give it a break. Let your body work while it rests and youīll be amazed how these couple days off make your body work differently and more accurate. Even you rest your muscles are working on coordinations.
So sometimes you just got to force yourself to learn the tricks no matter how hard they feel like.
Progressive riding is not all about just having fun and letting the tricks come and go to your head. You got to make yourself think further sometimes if you want to progress. But, progression and originality is not for everyone. But I would be happy to help the ones who has this progressive way of thinking on their ridings. That is my whole point here.
Just to answer shortly on the actual question. Sometimes they come and go to my mind as well, but every time when a new trick comes, I will give it a hard try.
But I like the feeling more when a lot of grazy ideas are flying in my mind.
[youtube]Lc8LDobMIWg[/youtube]
Thanx martti, it does work.. i guess i got comfortable with my riding and did not ask expect to much of myself aslong it felt fine just riding, so i charged and went for it!! proof right here!!!
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Martti/Viki, when you are trying to come up with a new or original trick, do you find yourself stumbling into these types of tricks, or is it a more methodical process where you have a deliberate goal? I've always found original tricks just kind of "happening" instead of thinking about them beforehand, but I'm curious as to the way in which you approach this.
Well, I could talk about this subject till tomorrow morning so letīs try to make it short then.
Iīve been going through in creativity many aspects from having dreams of tricks while I sleep to forcing myself to create new tricks till I canīt sleep because of the stress and everything between.
So I would say that let the tricks come to you and sometimes try to think of new things. And just get into the flow of thoughts of new tricks. Most of them will feel impossible to reach but it is then only up to you what do you want from riding. If you think of a new trick and you feel like you could do it then go ahead and try it. Try it for couple of hours and analyze the situation again. Then next day again and so on. Try not to give up, once you feel like it is impossible to do after few days trying it then give it a break. Let your body work while it rests and youīll be amazed how these couple days off make your body work differently and more accurate. Even you rest your muscles are working on coordinations.
So sometimes you just got to force yourself to learn the tricks no matter how hard they feel like.
Progressive riding is not all about just having fun and letting the tricks come and go to your head. You got to make yourself think further sometimes if you want to progress. But, progression and originality is not for everyone. But I would be happy to help the ones who has this progressive way of thinking on their ridings. That is my whole point here.
Just to answer shortly on the actual question. Sometimes they come and go to my mind as well, but every time when a new trick comes, I will give it a hard try.
But I like the feeling more when a lot of grazy ideas are flying in my mind.
[youtube]Lc8LDobMIWg[/youtube]
Thanx martti, it does work.. i guess i got comfortable with my riding and did not ask expect to much of myself aslong it felt fine just riding, so i charged and went for it!! proof right here!!!
i am trying a new switch, i will take a while tho, as pretty much everytime i miss it im getting close to the pavement with my head ^_^
Thank you Navid! I trust that it was your first trick of your session and that is a big proof right there for yourself that you can do hard trick for yourself right in the beginning of your riding session... Everyone should get inspired for such different idea for a video clip. Good job.
Hellos from Japan :ph34r:
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Perhaps I'm biased being an old guy but sometimes I feel the newer riders forget to look backwards sometimes. I can see some interesting flips into some not so often seen or less obvious positions. Like hitchhiker flip to karlcruiser. The kruiser itself isn't hard but to land in it is another story. I'd like to see a flip where there is no contact with the bike throughout the maneuver(has this been done yet?). Say hitchhiker flip to steamroller. Think about that one. The beauty of it is you're landing in a simple trick the hard part is co-ordinating the flip and backend to make it possible. Again, I don't know if it's been done but I see it as possible. Hope that helps someone.
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Hey! Still in Japan reppin flat. Just checking if you guys are working on this project? I have spoken to lot of japanese people about it and they likin it a lod.
Soon we will post an official presentation of this competition so stay hard and work on it!
Thanks!
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Cliffhanger to jump over the rear tire to Hitch hiker?
Well, here it is:
ATLANTA, GEORGIA USA ([url]http://vimeo.com/4905804[/url])
At 5:00 minutses time. You can pull over straight to there, but youll miss some cool stuff bfore.
Luiz dos Santos, aka Arroz (rice lol), is an awesome brasilian street/flat rider who has been around for at least 8 yrs now.
dude that guy is sick wit it!
Thank you! You did it with very good control. Plus you have bunch of other good stuff going on. Your balls seems to be on fire for such things!! Keep bustin.
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Still there? I am. Chad is. Viki is. Kotaro is. Terry is. Effraim is. Plus some more are. Keep it up. We are almost finnished with the plan. Patience.
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just something for your inspiration guys, since noone is posting. dont know if everyone ever saw a 720 flip...
kunstform?! bmx shop | seppl old footage - 720 flip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLFOtAVras#lq-hq)
i wanna see some more creative stuff, so keep on posting for flatlands sake!
see ya,
seppl
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just something for your inspiration guys, since noone is posting. dont know if everyone ever saw a 720 flip...
kunstform?! bmx shop | seppl old footage - 720 flip ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLFOtAVras#lq-hq[/url])
i wanna see some more creative stuff, so keep on posting for flatlands sake!
see ya,
seppl
Seppl has always been one of the most underrated pros out there! Iīve always been spying on his riding at the comps and he is doing very sensitive stuff in terms of keeping up the balance.
Learn something from his video please and keep this thread going on, as Seppl said, for flatlands sake. Any other pro riders why donīt you post new videos here?
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adam is my top 3 best flatland.
but MARTTI is my tBest flatland all the time
viki next.
here'e some adam kun style.
Kickflips... (http://vimeo.com/5491249)
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adam is my top 3 best flatland.
but MARTTI is my tBest flatland all the time
viki next.
here'e some adam kun style.
Kickflips... ([url]http://vimeo.com/5491249[/url])
Thanks for your support! Adam does pretty smart kickflip out there. Good stuff. Keep this up and good things will follow!
Martti
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Not a kickflip, but I don't think I've seen anyone hit this switch, I've been working on it for a little bit here and there but it's proving to be pretty hard, here's a good attempt
kgb global thread (http://vimeo.com/6099565)
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Not a kickflip, but I don't think I've seen anyone hit this switch, I've been working on it for a little bit here and there but it's proving to be pretty hard, here's a good attempt
kgb global thread ([url]http://vimeo.com/6099565[/url])
WOW! Nice one! Pull that before someone takes the credit for it!!! Hurry! :ph34r:
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Not a kickflip, but I don't think I've seen anyone hit this switch, I've been working on it for a little bit here and there but it's proving to be pretty hard, here's a good attempt
kgb global thread ([url]http://vimeo.com/6099565[/url])
WOW! Nice one! Pull that before someone takes the credit for it!!! Hurry! :ph34r:
I'm working on it! I broke a rib at the pre-jam in New Orleans though, so riding is slim lately.
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Nice Alex. Whats with the pedals moving? Are you riding a fixed gear rear hub?
Brian
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Martti I will ask question you...are you gonna let hair hang out again?
N
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Nice Alex. Whats with the pedals moving? Are you riding a fixed gear rear hub?
Brian
My freecoaster does that from time to time, haha.
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Martti I will ask question you...are you gonna let hair hang out again?
N
Hair will never hang out again. I cut my hair off to get rid of the bad times. New hair, new era.
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Seppl has always been one of the most underrated pros out there! Iīve always been spying on his riding at the comps and he is doing very sensitive stuff in terms of keeping up the balance.
Learn something from his video please and keep this thread going on, as Seppl said, for flatlands sake. Any other pro riders why donīt you post new videos here?
Thanks Martti!
I know I am not so consistent, but my goal is more showing off my creativity. Plus most if the contest surfaces just don't fit my riding, but thats another story... Here is one more: http://www.kunstform.org/downloads/xwhipcraze.mpg (http://www.kunstform.org/downloads/xwhipcraze.mpg)
NOW SHOW US YOUR CREATIVITY & POST A VIDEO!!!
Ride hard,
Seppl
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Seppl has always been one of the most underrated pros out there! Iīve always been spying on his riding at the comps and he is doing very sensitive stuff in terms of keeping up the balance.
Learn something from his video please and keep this thread going on, as Seppl said, for flatlands sake. Any other pro riders why donīt you post new videos here?
Thanks Martti!
I know I am not so consistent, but my goal is more showing off my creativity. Plus most if the contest surfaces just don't fit my riding, but thats another story... Here is one more: [url]http://www.kunstform.org/downloads/xwhipcraze.mpg[/url] ([url]http://www.kunstform.org/downloads/xwhipcraze.mpg[/url])
NOW SHOW US YOUR CREATIVITY & POST A VIDEO!!!
Ride hard,
Seppl
Consistency is only the way to win the comps. Consistency over difficulty that is new school.
However, I watched your clip but there is some problem with the file because it didnīt play it smooth? It was difficult to follow up the link.
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Martti I will ask question you...are you gonna let hair hang out again?
N
New hair, new era.
Right On!
N
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Hey. Just finnished editing my personal promo clip.. There is little something for everyone. For the riders and hype hype things for the others. Hope you enjoy it and get inspired:
Martti Kuoppa promo video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKXU9QsbuD8#lq-lq2)
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thats turkish afterparty is the shizzzzzz. so kl man, love the clip of you wearing the full face helmet when you were young pmsl
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my butt alway hit doing kickflip halfpacker damn it!
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Hey. Just finnished editing my personal promo clip.. There is little something for everyone. For the riders and hype hype things for the others. Hope you enjoy it and get inspired:
Martti Kuoppa promo video ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKXU9QsbuD8#lq-lq2[/url])
Sick! lot of tricks i've never seen before.
:beer:
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my butt alway hit doing kickflip halfpacker damn it!
and im trying to hang 10 to flip halfpacker
i could catch the pegs when im in halfpacker
need help
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my butt alway hit doing kickflip halfpacker damn it!
and im trying to hang 10 to flip halfpacker
i could catch the pegs when im in halfpacker
need help
Hi.
Good to hear that some one is trying to learn hang10 to kickflip to halfpacker. With this trick you need to be careful and patient. The most important thing is the point where you decide to jump / kick.
The right point to jump is somwhere little less than 90 degrees from where you started to roll the hang 5. Just a tiny bit before 90 degrees.
And try to do it with little more speed than you are used to. You might crash but it is worth it. It flips faster.
Once we get our website open I will explain better.
Keep in mind. That specific kickflip is very difficult. It drove me grazy literally. HAH.
Martti
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thanks martti
my butt always hit the end of the bars.
its drive me crazy my temper always hit me up
i will cut the the bars if my temper will not control hehehe.
i try hang 5 straight, before i kick i do i little turn degree then kick.
my speed is normal not fast as you are.
i can kick out in a normal position
but my probs is fear to jump back on pegs.
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?..
hehe
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thanks martti
my butt always hit the end of the bars.
its drive me crazy my temper always hit me up
i will cut the the bars if my temper will not control hehehe.
i try hang 5 straight, before i kick i do i little turn degree then kick.
my speed is normal not fast as you are.
i can kick out in a normal position
but my probs is fear to jump back on pegs.
Please check from my video sections on the method I use. First I land on my left foot on the peg and the right foot kicks up in the air and lands on the peg (tiny bit later from my left foot)
If you have problems that your butt hits the bars then jump a little higher.
Will you be the first person after me pulling that trick? I havenīt seen anyone do it so far.
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?..
hehe
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Megaspin tailwhip to Megaspin is the biggest and nicest trick ive ever seen Can watch it the whole day, props for that trick. Someday i will pull it!
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why not sticky this? Martti has his own show. lol
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why not sticky this? Martti has his own show. lol
My show will continue next week once I launch our official site. Until that, keep progressing. Time is money (or sponsorships and plane tickets). Hah.
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deeew it. good luck dunn.
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sick promo!
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That clip was so awesome. Not just the riding. Something in the over all vibe it gave out. I honestly cant describe it. Made me want to go out and ride more than anything Ive seen in a long time. Truly inspiring.
-MIKE