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Title: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: Claude on March 17, 2009, 07:54:04 PM
OK, I've seen this topic come up several times and i didn't find a good comprehensive thread right away so I thought we could put together all the advice and specifics for:
     1) a beginner ordering a complete bike from FF to...
     2) advanced tools and custom mods that you guys use. 

I will get things started with all the basics I've collected over 20 years of riding flat.

ALLEN SET
(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/tools001.jpg)

I use these almost everytime something gets worked on with my bike

(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/tools021.jpg)

My bike uses both the Metric and SAE for different parts so I went ahead and got both.

CRESCENT WRENCH (ADJUSTABLE)

(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/tools011.jpg)

SOCKET FOR YOUR 3/8 or 14mm axle nuts.

(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/tools002.jpg)


DK TOOL WILL GET YOU THIS FAR - a handy tool to have around for a beginner
(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/tools008.jpg)


WIRE CUTTERS

(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/tools003.jpg)

Go ahead and get good ones that will last.  Unless you never run brakes.

GOOD HIGH PRESSURE PUMP - $35-40
(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/mid_811046.gif)
If you flatland you will probably use this every time you go out.  Best $40 I've spent lately.

CHANNEL LOCKS

(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/tools013.jpg)
OK, just looking at this makes me cringe.  I try to NEVER use this.  If it pick it up I know that I'm going to grind and round off a little bit of some bolt somewhere no matter how careful you are.  However, if you have some older parts, an American unsealed BB, or headset nut - sometimes this is just the best thing to use to break it free or get it tight.  If you can spring for the right size 36mm wrenches (below) that is better but this will serve multiple purposes in the long run.

(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/mid_811300.gif)


LITHIUM GREASE

(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/tools005.jpg)
This is what I use from WalMart - get Lithium.  But if you notice everyone on here swears by the PHil Woods Grease.
(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/811195.gif)

OIL
I use this on my cables when I'm too lazy to pull them out and grease them.  Do NOT use WD-40.
(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/tools004.jpg)


BIG UGLY HAMMER
(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/tools014.jpg)
Enough said.

TIRE LEVERS
(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/tools009.jpg)
After 40 minutes of trying to get one tire on with my bare hands, I broke down and spent the $3.99.

GREASE RAGS
(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/tools023.jpg)
Just go buy a set of 10 from a local store.

CABLE TIES  Again this is more for brakes, but I use them frequently.
(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/tools020.jpg)


CHAIN TOOL
(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/tools018.jpg)
You probably won't use this a ton unless you are switching up sprockets and gears or bikes all the time.  I like mine.


SMALL TACKLE BOX
Keep everything!
(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/tools019.jpg)


TUBES AND CABLES

Two things I always buy more of everytime I order from FlatlandFuel.  It's either $1.99 from Pat or $6 when I need it from my local guy.  Seriously the last jam I went to I got a flat in the first 10minutes of being there and I was thankful for the guys that had a spare tube (thanks Danny).  I swore to always keep spares.  I keep a few extra cables too just in case.

(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/tools016.jpg)
(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/tools022.jpg)

CLEANER

(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/tools006.jpg)
THE BEST!

SPOKE WRENCH
Don't even try this unless you learn how to use it.  But if you learn it can keep your wheels straight for a lifetime.
(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/811201.gif)


TOOK KIT = $60
This may be worth it for starting out with nothing.
(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/811111.gif)

BIKE STAND
I don't personally have one of these but everyone that does swears by them.  $70-$120
(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/811361.gif)


GOOD WORKSPACE

(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo320/claudehickman/tools/tools024.jpg)

I would also hope that most local shops or local riders would be cool enough to take the time to stop and really teach you how to dismantle and maintain you bike.  It may be worth some time just to come in a shop on a slow day and ask them to show you how they fix things up.  Some basics.  Or ask a local rider to help you.  Sometimes the best way to learn is just to take something apart slowly and put it back together.  Chances are high that you will get it right and learn something in the process.
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: diesel1ne on March 17, 2009, 07:58:37 PM
you forgot the most important tool, a properly functioning brain  :P
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: lamehead on March 18, 2009, 03:32:22 AM
This totally needs a sticky.

Should stress to get GOOD cable cutters, I had some I bought from lowes and they were terrible, they always frayed my cables. After I bought a good Park cable cutter I had no more problems.

As for bike stand I always wanted one.. now that I have one I don't use it too much for my BMX bike (I just flip it upside down usually). It helps a ton on a MTB for working on gears though.
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: subscene on March 18, 2009, 04:29:48 AM
you forgot the most important tool, a properly functioning brain  :P

+1 rofl..
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: AK on March 18, 2009, 04:37:16 AM
 That park stand is awesome..I always thought they were kind of dumb but I got one as a gift and its one of the best bike 'tools' I ever got..

 What about patch kits? I know someones gonna argue with me but patches never give me a problem as long as there a decent brand and applied correctly..I buy a tube like once every few years haha
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: mare on March 18, 2009, 03:16:17 PM
^ patches r ok.. everyone who says otherwise dont know ho to use them
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: Luc on March 18, 2009, 05:41:08 PM
I swear i'm the only one who can get there tires off without tire levers or breaking a sweat. theres a trick to it, I'll try to explain:

1) hold the rim in front of you with both hands.
2)push and up and away from you to create a small "v" shaped space between your tire and rim.
3)roll the tire off your rims with your thumbs.

if step 3 isn't fairly easy, redo step two, I'm well aware it's a rather crappy explanation, it's definetly much easier to just show someone. My brother in law taught me that a few years ago and I can easily remove any tire from my rim. I've never tried a kevlar tire, but I imagine they'd be easier wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: sumthinluv on March 18, 2009, 07:11:59 PM
^^^^^^^ yep - khe's kevlar folding tyres are a breeze to put on and off without levers!



my basic kit i take out most days:

- set of allen keys
- patch kit
- mini hand pump (just to get rolling again)
- rachet socket with extension bar
- couple of zip ties
- all wrapped in a rag
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: eight on March 18, 2009, 08:30:19 PM
Great topic! Definitely worth a sticky!
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: David (Toucan) on March 19, 2009, 01:04:18 AM
STICKIED!!!

and this ones not going to the how-to... its staying here.

A bit obsessive, but with all these tools and a little knowledge bike repair is a breeze...

im going to keep this unlocked, but if it grows to a few pages i may just lock it...

KEEP IT ON TOPIC!
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: diesel1ne on March 19, 2009, 03:09:22 AM
buy good queality stuff, i had a chain braker from my local shop, and  like the 3rd time i used it on my chain, it just snapped, i got the topeak chain breaker now, i extremely reccomend the breaker, its just so well designed, thinner than my other one but stronger, not potmetal crap, and it comes with a allen key (for your bike, and the breaker, extra holders so you can hole 2 extra pins, and some handy little thing for mountian bikes that you use to make a portion of the chain loose(chainhook) 16$ U.S.  (TAX=a bitch)
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: the beard on March 22, 2009, 02:28:23 AM
A half round file is a great tool to keep pegs maintained; as well as for keeping access to the axle nut open.  If you've ever neglected a peg to the point you can't get a socket in it, this tool will save the day.  The flat side can be used to smooth out rough barends or pegs to make them easier on the hands.

something along the lines of this right here (I'd recommend a slightly courser file than pictured) would be a good choice:

(http://www.rd.com/images/tfhimport/2006/200606_FixDoor_2_size2.jpg)
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: Andy Marsh(Mallow) on March 22, 2009, 07:49:09 PM
The metal hammer is great, but when working with aluminum parts, don't forget to also use a block of wood with it, or you will smash up the aluminum.  Another option is to use a plastic hammer.  The hammer and wood is essential when I take apart my Geisha freecoaster.
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: Kzoh on March 28, 2009, 06:36:48 AM
^or just use a rubber mallet
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: danfah1 on May 31, 2009, 04:43:49 AM
Thanks and took your advice and got the tools this weekend
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: khoma on June 12, 2009, 11:57:10 PM
good thread. one question though, why no WD-40?
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: Andy Marsh(Mallow) on June 17, 2009, 10:34:15 PM
Quote
good thread. one question though, why no WD-40?

From my experience back in the day as a newbie for bicycle maintenance in the 90s, WD-40 is bad as it seemed to rust or dry out my parts out over time because it washed out the grease that was already in the part and would just wash out quickly anyways.  It works if you want to degrease something or if you want a temporary quick fix knowing you will apply REAL bike grease the next day. 

Bicycle specific grease is the only way to go in my opinion as they have ingredients such as teflon that are more resistant to drying and water and therefore stay in and lubricate longer.
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: khoma on June 18, 2009, 01:54:51 AM
yeah obviously one shouldn't just put WD-40 in there and leave it like that, it's meant for de-greasing after all and that's a job it does well. just make sure to re-grease it eh.
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: TJ Perry on July 04, 2009, 07:11:25 AM
A band saw. For cutting flanges off grips.
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: Mario Saldana on July 15, 2009, 11:12:56 PM
or a razor blade..
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: lekwar on July 31, 2009, 12:12:56 PM
A band saw. For cutting flanges off grips.

How they look like? Just asking Ive never do this...
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: midschool on September 06, 2009, 04:00:05 AM
Don't forget the torque wrench.

(http://www.parktool.com/images/products/productimages/spr_TW-6_003_2009415_11406.jpg)
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: ASC on September 18, 2009, 05:31:38 PM
Another great post...would be cool to have a section just geared to beginners. Makes it easier to find info...N
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: Red43j on October 17, 2009, 03:54:27 PM
I do have most of these tools, however, I found a few out of this post that I would have never thunk of (rubber mallet-good idea!). How about the recommended tool box? I have one, its okay, but I'd really like to find something more practical for when I go to my spot.
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: David (Toucan) on October 18, 2009, 07:59:42 AM
Don't forget the torque wrench.

([url]http://www.parktool.com/images/products/productimages/spr_TW-6_003_2009415_11406.jpg[/url])


i only ever use one at work on 15000 dollar race bikes or on my motorcycle... pointless on a bmx.


To the post about automotive grease- its too chunky and wont work smoothly on most any bearing on a bmx. I use phil wood greese on all my parts, and have personally taken my roadbike up to 50mph with that stuff in the wheelbearings. its fine. Its pricy, but its the best stuff out there.

For flatland though, park tool grease is perfectly fine
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: dkopsis on November 04, 2009, 02:04:07 AM


I would also hope that most local shops or local riders would be cool enough to take the time to stop and really teach you how to dismantle and maintain you bike.  It may be worth some time just to come in a shop on a slow day and ask them to show you how they fix things up.  Some basics.  Or ask a local rider to help you.  Sometimes the best way to learn is just to take something apart slowly and put it back together.  Chances are high that you will get it right and learn something in the process.

I tried this the other day. my front wheel was wobbling around and i didnt have any tools to even attempt to fix it. So that i could know for the future i took it to a bike shop and asked the guy if i could come into the room and see how he fixes it and what hes doin etc. THE GUY SAID NO...  :angry: :angry:  anyway so i had do stand out in a different room.

thats why i decided to go to this thread to see if i could just get the tools and try it myself next time

Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: rob joe on November 08, 2009, 02:36:14 PM
thanks went out and bought  tire levers
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: Jared_D on December 01, 2009, 04:15:14 AM
For a bike pump I would recommend the one below.  It's $60 but has a lifetime warranty and isn't cheap plastic.

(http://imgur.com/OmZL7.jpg)


http://www.amazon.com/Serfas-FMP-500-Bicycle-Floor-Pump/dp/B000UV8I94/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1259637033&sr=8-16 (http://www.amazon.com/Serfas-FMP-500-Bicycle-Floor-Pump/dp/B000UV8I94/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1259637033&sr=8-16)
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: riding on December 01, 2009, 05:43:07 PM
Here's a couple luxury items that are really great to have, especially if you ride alone or ride to your spot on the bike.  With Christmas season upon us, here's a few things to consider as gift ideas.

A good backpack:

Eastpak makes great stuff.  They have a 30 year warranty, so if you get one, you're set.

(http://eastpak.scene7.com/is/image/Eastpak/EK902_279?$large$)

iPod/mp3 player:

I've tried a grip of cheap ones thinking ipod's were over rated. They're not. There are however a lot of inexpensive players out there now that work well for riding (small size).  Having music is very nice.
frys.com has good deals

(http://www.dclstore.co.uk/images/products/apple-ipod-nano-8gb-purple-mb739zo-a-l.jpg)

durable water bottles:

There's a lot of variety, from lexan to stainless steel. Screw-on lids are best; having a flip or pop top come off in a backpack or car is no fun.

(http://www.outdoorpros.com/images/prod/5/Nalgene-2178-2024-rw-34053-33862.JPG)

hotel towels:

heh. just kidding. Seriously tho, having a towel in your pack is great for wiping your face or even dusty/dirty/wet tires.

(http://www.freewebs.com/vaibhavexports/Hotel_Towels.jpg)

Ibuprofen:

A sore body can rob motivation. Ibuprofen helps with that. Having a bottle that stays in your 'pack is rad. You might even make new friends :)

(http://ashtangablog.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/ibuprofen.jpg)
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: Aaron on December 13, 2009, 12:10:52 AM
i recommend getting a knife so you can cut your friends tires  :wacko:
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: yo on December 22, 2009, 01:13:33 AM
Rust remover is really useful.If any parts have rust on them, they're not going to work very well.
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: whitty on December 25, 2009, 02:10:52 AM
i recommend getting a knife so you can cut your friends tires  :wacko:

Actually, I really do find that a knife is super useful, at the very least keep a box cutter handy all the time. You never know what you need to cut - packaging on new parts, rim tape, zip ties, whatever. I only rarely use mine to cut my friends' tires.
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: Hugo @ Portugal on December 31, 2009, 02:21:54 AM
Something that I find can actually save alot of shop maintenance money:

(http://www.sheldonbrown.com/images/crank-puller-labeled.jpg)
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: Corrupted account on January 17, 2010, 05:39:24 AM
Always keep your allen wrenches with you it is a must,I have almost never gone out to ride and not used them.  this being said make sure you get good, durable ones that will last you.
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: whitty on January 17, 2010, 05:55:31 AM
I actually find that a good multi tool is the best. Mine has allen keys, a chain tool, tire levers (though not the STRONGEST, I'd rather use my Park Tool levers but in a pinch, I suppose...), some screwdriver heads, and some other goodies.
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: dwin_gtr on January 20, 2010, 11:23:28 AM
tire lever is like your best friend, i recommend the blue plastic park tools one
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: adidas2d on April 29, 2010, 01:26:02 AM
If I buy a BMX bike as well as a Gyro and Freecoaster could I turn that bike into a capable Flatland bike? Since there doesn't seem to be a variety of completed Flatland bikes, I wanted to know if that was an option. Of course making sure the TT is about 19" and other geometric features. For example I was thinking of buying a Verde Radia with a Khe Reverse ACB Freecoaster Hub and  a Odyssey GTX-R Aluminum Gyro, but don't really know if that can be combined to flatland. I am 5'6" 115pd. The KHE A-Damn LT is my fallback bike though if this is not possible. Thank you.
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: jm on June 04, 2010, 04:47:45 AM
here's a few things that are just rad to have:

(http://compositeenvisions.com/images/nitrile%20gloves.jpg)
gloves are nice, I finally tried them for bikes and I like it. No black gunk to clean off the hands, less tiny scratches.

(http://www.smartmarine.co.nz/images/large/black%20magic%20tackle%20box.JPG)  
I have something like this that I keep in my main toolbag. it's great for small stuff. Mine is full of various spacers and washers, old bolts, nuts, loose allen wrenches, sockets, tire levers, patches, some quarters for phone calls, extra spokes and nipples, etc. They come in smaller sizes also. This is something that can fit in a backpack easily when you're out on your bike. Portable organization is very good.

(http://www.ercwipe.com/images/White-Shop.jpg)
 cheap shop rags, or old tshirt rags are super cool. You can spread one out on the ground when you work on a bike to keep parts clean and not as likely to get lost. They come in handy all the time for different things.

Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: FlatlandNoob on July 12, 2010, 11:02:27 PM
Hey, i just purchased a bike from danscomp and was wondering what my essential tools are gonna be to put it together. What are the main tools i need just to put the bike together? No i don't want someone to put my bike together for me. Why? cause i wanna learn how to do it myself. I only want a list of the tools im going to need just to get it running then later on ill pay for the rest of the things im going to need to maintain the bike.
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: FlatlandNoob on July 14, 2010, 08:40:46 PM
so i take it nobody has ever bought a knew bike.
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: aikinetic on July 17, 2010, 09:58:37 AM
so i take it nobody has ever bought a knew bike.

Nobody buys new... Why would you want new? Seems like an odd concept to me... I always thought old broken parts were much better to use :\ hm...

Of course we have had new bikes and put them together, you just gotta be patient on your response. When i got my new bike (2006 WeThePeople Sinus from flatland fuel) It came basically all put together already, all I had to do was put the handle bars on and the pegs. This involved a ratchet  with a couple inch extension and deep socket of the correct size, a crescent wrench to tighten the compression bolt holding the stem onto the forks and a 6mm allen wrench to tighten the bolts in the headset. I ride brakeless so i just tossed the brakes to the side and was all set with a few other minor adjustments.

If you plan to work on the brakes I assume they will come with the correct size cabling and you really just need a 5 or 6mm allen wrench to get the lever on and to tighten the calipers onto the forks. You will also need that adjustable wrench handy or the correct size regular wrench to adjust the spring tension on the calipers.

I really cant think of anything else I needed to use, but heres a list below to sum it up.

- 5 and 6mm allen wrench
- ratchet, extension, deep socket(size of the nuts on your axle)
- crescent wrench
- adjustable wrench
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: FlatlandNoob on July 17, 2010, 10:25:44 PM
so i take it nobody has ever bought a knew bike.

Nobody buys new... Why would you want new? Seems like an odd concept to me... I always thought old broken parts were much better to use :\ hm...

Of course we have had new bikes and put them together, you just gotta be patient on your response. When i got my new bike (2006 WeThePeople Sinus from flatland fuel) It came basically all put together already, all I had to do was put the handle bars on and the pegs. This involved a ratchet  with a couple inch extension and deep socket of the correct size, a crescent wrench to tighten the compression bolt holding the stem onto the forks and a 6mm allen wrench to tighten the bolts in the headset. I ride brakeless so i just tossed the brakes to the side and was all set with a few other minor adjustments.

If you plan to work on the brakes I assume they will come with the correct size cabling and you really just need a 5 or 6mm allen wrench to get the lever on and to tighten the calipers onto the forks. You will also need that adjustable wrench handy or the correct size regular wrench to adjust the spring tension on the calipers.

I really cant think of anything else I needed to use, but heres a list below to sum it up.

- 5 and 6mm allen wrench
- ratchet, extension, deep socket(size of the nuts on your axle)
- crescent wrench
- adjustable wrench
Thnx but i got the bike 2 days before this post. I wanted to know what i needed BEFORE i got the bike so that i can go out and buy the tools and be ready to set up the bike when it got here.
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: clarey on July 23, 2010, 05:55:43 PM
im getting the dk random wrench v2 to assemble my bike also gonna get some grease and lube as pat suggested anything else i need im sure i got it if i look hard enough
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: freestyle19722 on December 09, 2010, 08:06:16 AM
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Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: Andrew Tarrant on December 29, 2010, 09:49:19 PM
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Actually pretty epic, always ruin my grips when I accidentally hit the bars to the ground hitch hiking
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: MarylandFlat on January 28, 2011, 04:25:27 AM
I'm not sure what to think about the roller bar ends. Learning bw hikers I shredded grips, bar ends and levers. I'm alot better at keeping the bars off the ground now but I bet these would have saved me some parts.
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: DBZ on April 04, 2013, 11:42:53 AM
Pedro's tire levers are the best: a little wider than most for better leverage and easier on your hands.


(http://www.pedros.com/product/levers/levers.jpg)
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: rawchild on April 04, 2013, 12:38:06 PM
Tire patch kit and one of these.
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: bmxgoat95 on August 08, 2020, 03:38:35 PM

I have been looking for the right tool for my BMX for a long time. Since I am on the road very often, the tool has to be as small as possible, so I am grateful to you for posting the individual tools including pictures.


In this regard I wanted to ask if anyone knows or can recommend a good and inexpensive dealer?


Many thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Beginners - Tools you Need
Post by: alexandraadams on September 21, 2020, 08:45:55 AM
Thanks. I got your advice and will get some of these tools which I currently don't have!