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English => General Flatland Forum => Topic started by: Matt Newquay on June 05, 2008, 09:22:53 PM
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Hey i know lots of people get a load of stick for posting questions about how too's
but i really want to get this trick learnt!
Okay i can do single ones fine and i can also step over the frame and put my good foot back on the front peg (my right foot) but the back always drops, i'm trying to keep the bars pushed down and keep my weight over the front wheel!
Is there a good way to get more comfortable on your switch foot to make this easier?
Thanks for any help given. Cheers Matt
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learn hang 5's with you opposite foot.
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i dont quite understand, what do u mean step over and put ur good foot on?
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has to be a better way then opp hang 5 ????
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learn hang 5's with you opposite foot.
+1
u r very close if u can do hang5s with both feets
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you know when you push or kick the frame round you normally start with your strongest foot on the fromt peg for me its my right foot so i kick the frame round with my left leg, then i switch my feet so my left is on the front peg and my right foot is going to step over the frame, well when i step over i put my right foot back on the peg but the back wheel always drops!!
Does that make sense??
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+1 on opposite hang5
Also try hang10 and hang5 to opposite hang5 to hang5 etc... so you will learn switching your feet from the pegs without loosing your balance.
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you know when you push or kick the frame round you normally start with your strongest foot on the fromt peg for me its my right foot so i kick the frame round with my left leg, then i switch my feet so my left is on the front peg and my right foot is going to step over the frame, well when i step over i put my right foot back on the peg but the back wheel always drops!!
Does that make sense??
i follow u now, as soon as ur right foot goes back on take of ur other foot to counter balance and also to be ready to step onto the frame or pedal
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Also try hang10 and hang5 to opposite hang5 to hang5 etc... so you will learn switching your feet from the pegs without loosing your balance.
Yes.
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you shouldn't have the bars rocked fw that much...
for multiples you kinda want to keep the bars from moving too much... watch chase do multiples... the bars don't go fw n bw very much.... his body stays very stationary asside from his legs moving up and down... his bars go more ever so slightly side to side more than fw and bw...
I naturally do hang 5's on my right foot so whiplash to hang 5 on my right foot just comes naturally... id say once you get that, you should be well on your way to multiples....
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The best way to get these is just to practice the sh*t out of them.
But asides from that, just watch footage or someone else do them. I keep my body leaned over the front end. I try to pop up in to the sweet spot, but sometimes on my first one or two whips (or even the later ones too at times), I find myself adjusting the front end back and fourth to find the spot that I like it to be.
I like to do mine so the back end is barely off the ground when the frames in front of me. This causes the frame to slow down a lot when I'm stepping over, allowing me to take my time and do it as controlled as possible. I know others that like to keep the front end at about 90*, and just try to get the step over done as quickly as possible, but I personally find that doing it like that is too rushed for me.
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Cool well all that has got me excited about going riding now!
And the suns out even better !!
Cheers guys :beer: :beer:
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I know this might sound funny, but if you can do the Cabage Patch (Old Dance from the 80's) then Whiplashes should come easy!
It's the same concept with your upper body & lower body! Your just on a bike! lol... No joke!
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I know this might sound funny, but if you can do the Cabage Patch (Old Dance from the 80's) then Whiplashes should come easy!
It's the same concept with your upper body & lower body! Your just on a bike! lol... No joke!
This was just a ploy to get me to do the cabbage patch at my desk while I'm half-asleep and not thinking right, wasn't it?
also, glad to know I'm not gonna be the only one playing with opposite hang 5's.
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weird quick question about head tube angle and how it affects tricks like whiplashes,
on my darwin bike I have 75deg. ht angle, seems like when the bike gets half around I need to bring the bars backwards a bit to keep the rear tire from hitting the ground,
since my head tube angle is so steep,
seems like bikes with 74ht or lower would thereticly keep the forks more strait up and down
and would have to "ajust" handlebar/fork positon less to keep the back tire off the ground at all times. -
any sense to this? or maby there is other options to get the same feeling,
like a lower bearing race (on the fork) that has 1 or 2mm of rise to it?
or a front tire thats slightly larger in size, like 1.85 if 1.75 in rear?
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In my opinion, all that will only cause minimal effects while whiplashing. I think if you can do whiplashes on one frame, you'll be able to adjust pretty quick to another.
But you're right, a shallower headtube angle will create more clearance for the rear tire clipping as its directly in front of you.
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Hey hey well i have achieved something at least!
Whiplash to hang 5 so half way there just need to let the frame keep spinning now!
Damn punchers i spet all morning trying to fit one, its done now so im off
Cheers
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Im in the process of learning these also. I'm not quite advanced enough to hit multiples, but how I have found to be a good help is to be able to do steams with either foot. my left foot is predominant, but i have been trying to do right foot fw steams and it has helped out a lot.
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I was playng aroung today and i was gettin fw steams for quite a while on my weaker foot!
so its all good i have also found that now i can properly roll hitchikers so all in all this week i have progressed quite a bt for me!!
Totally feel stoked about riding again hope the weather tomorrow is good!! :beer:
Cheers all
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it was super hot today, and I managed to ride about an hour out front,
I landed 1 real good whiplash for the first time ever.
was awesome.
( ps - tire preassure helped me a bit, I pumped up to 120 instead of 100/95 I usualy ride)
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it was super hot today, and I managed to ride about an hour out front,
I landed 1 real good whiplash for the first time ever.
was awesome.
( ps - tire preassure helped me a bit, I pumped up to 120 instead of 100/95 I usualy ride)
Brian why don`t u have your tires always up to 120? cause since i tried 120 or more i have never gone under it. feels so much better - my opinion